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Date: February 6th, 2007 12:40 PM Author: Comical stage marketing idea developing... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7553980) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 12:42 PM Author: shaky laughsome locale SBA president fiasco? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554011) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 12:44 PM Author: mind-boggling stain haunted graveyard blah. lame.
it's like bush. he is shitty but he was elected fair and square. you (america) knew bush's religious bullshit might affect his stances on stem cells, abortion or whatever.
people knew PP's right-wing shit might affect his presidency but he was elected anyway. maybe now it won't be a popularity contest.
but who cares? how much power does he really have? am i affected? i'd rather enjoy my last couple years of freedom than go to meetings or whatever, so this whole issue never really affected me.
mountain out of a molehill. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 12:51 PM Author: Comical stage marketing idea i agreee with you in that i dont care, but i can see how people get affected. apparently some people put a lot of stock in this whole student body thing. wtf?
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Date: February 6th, 2007 12:53 PM Author: puce legend summarize what happened? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554095) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 12:57 PM Author: Comical stage marketing idea CJ roberts visits. SBA pres picks a group of student leaders to have breakfast (or something) with him. SBA pres snubs all the race based groups (BLSA, LLSA, APALSA, whatever else there is). One guy (from BLSA, ithink) confronts SBA pres. SBA pres says soemthign (exact wording is debated) about how minority groups contribute nothing to the communtiy and we should get rid of them.
Riot ensues. Pres is forced to step down by administration + SBA leaders. He sends long rant to listserv about their gestapo tactics. BLSA leader responds with pres' alleged comments. Shit hits the fan.
Why the fuck do people get so worked up over this? |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:01 PM Author: puce legend lolocaust - why was he forced to step down? He didnt say anythign really nasty did he?
I guess snubbing the racist groups does not represent the SBA properly, but still. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:04 PM Author: Comical stage marketing idea his alleged comments
”I would dismantle all of your groups. If it were up to me there would be no LLSA, BLSA, Salsa and Apalsa, because they don’t bring anything to the community, and they contribute to racial identity politics.” He kept going, telling me that he doesn’t get caught up in racial politics and doesn’t believe in race based groups."
what he claims he said
"During what can only be described loosely as a conversation, I stated my belief that our community would be better off if all student organizations were organized around ideas, and not ethnicity. It is this off-hand remark that is the primary justification for my being forced from office."
what the administration says he said
"comments that dismissed the value of the organizations of the uninvited leaders"
also, what group is SALSA? |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:06 PM Author: puce legend so even if he said the first thing, there is nothing offensive about that. At worst it's an opinion, at best it's accurate.
How do you get shitcanned for that? |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:11 PM Author: Comical stage marketing idea i think the argument is that he let his opinions influence his actions (in choosing who to have breakfast with Roberts). since that's probably the most important thing a SBA president will ever do as it actually has real world relevance, people are understandably annoyed
also, he seems like a douche |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:08 PM Author: Comical stage marketing idea his justification for his comments
" I've often wondered to myself whether student groups organized around ethnic identity ultimately unite or divide our community as a whole. History, personal experience, and recent events on campus give me reason to believe that both can be true. This is an issue that is the subject of much scholarly debate. It is an issue that some on campus, including the administration, believe an SBA President is forbidden from raising, as I did, with the leader of an ethnicity-oriented student group. I am sorry I did this. My suggestion was not well taken and I had good reason to know that it would not be, but I did not think that this personal disagreement was a good reason for me to be forced from my elected position. I recognize that these groups make substantial positive contributions to our learning environment; I only wonder whether the net positive would be greater if these groups were organized differently. It is decidedly not inconsistent to question the organizing principles of a student group and simultaneously recognize its contributions. "
i had no opinion about the whole issue until i read this, now i think he's a huge douche who deserves to get publicly humiliated. best way to cut down budding career politicans is to shoot em while they're young |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:12 PM Author: Crystalline godawful crotch cruise ship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554205) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 8:29 AM Author: Overrated amber ticket booth South Asian Law Students Association? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7559499) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:06 PM Author: Crystalline godawful crotch cruise ship The Admin. actually made him back-down?
Softbatch clowns. |
Date: February 6th, 2007 1:10 PM Author: Pearl Center French Chef LOLZ.
Law school political fights are pathetic. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:10 PM Author: Lemon gaping spot "To provide some background: There was a breakfast last Thursday with Chief Justice Roberts to which a number of academic and student-government leaders were invited. The administration asked me to recommend a list of 10-15 "academic and community leaders" to attend this breakfast. The administration had the final word on the invitees; this should be obvious given the nature of the event, the addition of 10 students to my initial recommendations, and the fact that my recommendations had to be cleared with the administration. I was never told that the intent was to invite the leaders of every student organization. The students at that breakfast were an undeniably diverse cross-section of the Northwestern Law community. These students were invited not as racial representatives, but because of their leadership on the law journals, in student government, and in student organizations with leadership positions open to members of any ethnicity. Nonetheless, the leader of one of the ethnicity-oriented student groups – a person I have always considered a friend - shouted me down in the Atrium for overlooking the leaders of these groups. He told me that I took the opportunity of a lifetime away from him. . . . During what can only be described loosely as a conversation, I stated my belief that our community would be better off if all student organizations were organized around ideas, and not ethnicity. It is this off-hand remark that is the primary justification for my being forced from office.
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"The complete list of students that I recommended for the breakfast: The SBA Executive Board and 1L Rep, Law Review board members, 2 Editors-in-Chief of academic journals, Federalist Society President, Fed Soc Board Member who has been exceptionally active on SBA Committees and in SFPIF, ACS President, STMS President. After two students responded that they could not attend, and in response to concerns that only two 1Ls were included in a group of 28, I recommended two 1Ls active on SBA and in student organizations. Of my 18 recommendations, at least 6 were of diverse ethnic background. The administration approved ALL of these recommendations in addition to inviting at least 10 students without my recommendation."
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:13 PM Author: histrionic poppy home It is impressive how many nutjobs and douchebags NU manages to pack into a fairly small law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554207) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:14 PM Author: Pearl Center French Chef You could replace NU with any other law school and this would still be true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554213) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:15 PM Author: Comical stage marketing idea titcr - especially those involved with SBA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554219) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:16 PM Author: histrionic poppy home Not to the same extent. NU is the pound for pound champ of douchebagery. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554221) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:16 PM Author: Comical stage marketing idea actually, that would probably be CLS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554225) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:19 PM Author: histrionic poppy home No, it wouldn't. Sorry fag, your school is the pits. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554244) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:20 PM Author: Comical stage marketing idea oo, struck a chord too close to home, did i?
as i stated below, NU has douchebaggery concentrated in a few individuals - CLS has douchebaggery spread over the entire student body, with a few exceptions |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:28 PM Author: histrionic poppy home I do not go to CLS if that's what you mean.
I just know that NU is the king of all fags. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:17 PM Author: Pearl Center French Chef Yeah, I think MC and Moonshine Hillbilly put it over the top. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554228) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:18 PM Author: shaky laughsome locale word.
but lonestar seems cool and so does JimmyNeutron even though he transfered. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:19 PM Author: Comical stage marketing idea i think NU has a lot of douchebaggery concentrated in a few individuals (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554246) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:18 PM Author: puce legend To be fair, Joe-Vag really skews the mean for both pounds and douchebaggery.. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554233) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:19 PM Author: Pearl Center French Chef 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554242) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:19 PM Author: Crystalline godawful crotch cruise ship H O T (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554247) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:20 PM Author: histrionic poppy home LOLZ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554248) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:22 PM Author: Grizzly startled gas station filthpig This is absurd. Race-based campus groups do absolutely nothing except whine and beg for entitlements, as far as I can tell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554264) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:22 PM Author: Crystalline godawful crotch cruise ship They also kill spies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554266) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:25 PM Author: Grizzly startled gas station filthpig Actually, they fucked up that operation, as you'll recall. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554284) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 8:49 AM Author: titillating dopamine masturbator It is exactly because of people like you and your broad ignorant assumptions that they are required and helpful to members of their ethnicity.
Been to many race-based group meetings/events have you? |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 8:56 AM Author: mustard theater stage scourge upon the earth I have, and I really found them pretty useless too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7559556) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:23 PM Author: Comical stage marketing idea more importantly, what is SALSA? i assume it's mexican related (is that racist?) but doesnt LLSA cover that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554269) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:24 PM Author: aromatic henna azn mood South Asian, one'd assume. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554277) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:24 PM Author: Comical stage marketing idea is that not covered by APALSA? (serious question) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554280) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:25 PM Author: puce legend no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554288) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:26 PM Author: aromatic henna azn mood I believe lots of schools have both, and a lot of school, in addition to APALSA, have separate Chinese, Korean, and Japanese student orgs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554292) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:32 PM Author: Navy Kitchen there may be some overlap. you can join more than one group (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554313) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:36 PM Author: Splenetic lodge SALSA is the South Asian one. At Chicago about once a year we throw a house party with a bunch of Indian food, that's about the extent of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554326) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:28 PM Author: mustard theater stage scourge upon the earth The real question is did he get to go to breakfast with Roberts. If he did he really shouldn't give a shit. Also, letting him make a decision like this, who wouldn't expect rampant cronyism? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554300) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:41 PM Author: Crystalline godawful crotch cruise ship The second part of this is clearly credited. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554342) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 1:33 PM Author: Comical stage marketing idea someone needs to go to this lunchtime meeting they're having and report on xoxo as it develops, sitting in the corner of the room and typing furiously as words and accusations fly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575972&forum_id=2#7554318) |