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Jesus fucking Christ, I hate the fairly new use of "optics."

Example: "And even though TFA members often don’t re...
infuriating puppy
  10/16/09
Never seen that before, but it's incredibly stupid.
Pink electric lodge coldplay fan
  10/16/09
Slightly different meaning, but how do people feel about &qu...
Pearly Zippy Idiot
  10/16/09
these are all excellent examples of pretentious douchebagger...
Black Cowardly Internal Respiration House
  10/16/09
BUSINESSMEN Lawyers don't make up pointless words--we have ...
haunting piazza fanboi
  10/16/09
I have never seen or heard a lawyer employ either of those u...
infuriating puppy
  10/16/09
Just as gross.
Pink electric lodge coldplay fan
  10/16/09
See, I don't think so. There is no definition of optics f...
Pearly Zippy Idiot
  10/16/09
It's a little closer, but I think it's still off. Presumably...
Pink electric lodge coldplay fan
  10/16/09
Those are seperte definitions, so it describes the "moo...
Pearly Zippy Idiot
  10/16/09
considering the salubriousness of your post, I will have to ...
Black Cowardly Internal Respiration House
  10/16/09
TY.
Pearly Zippy Idiot
  10/16/09
outstanding utilization of words. i would task you to draft...
Charismatic toaster roommate
  10/16/09
yeah you'd use it in criticism for books and movies, as in &...
maniacal aqua whorehouse
  10/16/09
No. Atmospherics is from the early radio jargon. It stan...
jade rebellious rigpig
  12/26/09
Also a fucking horrendous.
infuriating puppy
  10/16/09
lols, the novel "optics" usage i've heard, "a...
maniacal aqua whorehouse
  10/16/09
*gags*
Dead knife
  10/16/09
As you should.
infuriating puppy
  10/16/09
As a former optics person, that pisses me off quite a lot.
Elite smoky stage
  10/16/09
fag
Nudist Supple Home
  10/16/09
*traps you in an optical lattice*
Elite smoky stage
  10/16/09
*quantum tunnels under the fence*
Nudist Supple Home
  10/16/09
*gets entangled*
big filthy filthpig blood rage
  10/17/09
uncertain
Silver disrespectful lay
  08/15/10
...
Razzmatazz Theater
  08/15/10
really hear it in politics more
Razzmatazz Theater
  08/15/10
You can almost see how the retard gears spun when the first ...
infuriating puppy
  10/16/09
I hear it at last once a week.
Unhinged at-the-ready depressive
  10/16/09
Where?
Dead knife
  10/16/09
It is what it is.
180 amethyst pistol
  10/16/09
In this case, it is not.
Pearly Zippy Idiot
  10/16/09
"Optics" is far worse.
Dead knife
  10/16/09
This doesn't bother me. It's just the dressed-up equivalent ...
Pink electric lodge coldplay fan
  10/16/09
i don't think that quite captures it. unlike "whatever...
idiotic hall cumskin
  10/16/09
I think that works. I agree that "it is what it is"...
Pink electric lodge coldplay fan
  10/17/09
yeah, but that's neither here nor there.
Mewling pervert national
  10/16/09
this and "under the bus" are staples for not very ...
Charismatic toaster roommate
  10/16/09
*stabs self with ice pick*
brindle roast beef
  12/22/09
How about using "qua" when it really isn't necessa...
Pearly Zippy Idiot
  10/16/09
Last time you did this, I was torn between asking you what t...
Pink electric lodge coldplay fan
  10/16/09
I just sent you an epic e-mail.
Pearly Zippy Idiot
  10/16/09
I like it. Don't be such a cantankerous old fart.
Nudist Supple Home
  10/16/09
where did you hear this usage? i have never heard anyone use...
cerebral place of business location
  10/16/09
"where did you hear this usage?" Well, among ot...
infuriating puppy
  10/16/09
the only thing stupider than "optics" is TFA
gay kink-friendly principal's office
  10/16/09
I was hearing this from our business clients last year - the...
Comical twinkling uncleanness
  10/16/09
Get over yourself, loser.
adulterous step-uncle's house
  10/16/09
BY WHAT METRIC?
bright brethren base
  10/16/09
http://volokh.com/2009/11/20/michael-mcconnell-v-martin-flah...
big filthy filthpig blood rage
  11/20/09
Well, it's so far from what I think is necessary that I don'...
infuriating puppy
  12/22/09
tyft
brindle roast beef
  12/22/09
"But the optics of presidential vacations are trickier,...
infuriating puppy
  12/26/09
This is fucking nosiating. No - vominating.
jade rebellious rigpig
  12/27/09
It's very common. Get used to it.
cyan territorial church building
  12/26/09
It's very TTT.
infuriating puppy
  12/26/09
*raises middle finger to the face level* "I hope you...
jade rebellious rigpig
  12/27/09
Why do most of these quotes involve Obama?
jade rebellious rigpig
  12/27/09
I just bought an EOTech.
milky dilemma
  12/27/09
Optics has a manly military ring to it. Expect to see more o...
geriatric trust fund
  12/27/09
Maybe that's why business schools love military experience -...
infuriating puppy
  12/27/09
I do this shit at work. I give AARs to the partner I work f...
milky dilemma
  12/27/09
Does it involve some sort of matrix? All good military/busi...
infuriating puppy
  12/27/09
The institutionalized cretinism of one resonates well with t...
jade rebellious rigpig
  12/27/09
Horrible.
big filthy filthpig blood rage
  04/24/10
"But having acknowledged that it's admittedly gimmicky,...
Dead knife
  05/24/10
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1396351&mc=3...
hilarious nursing home
  08/15/10


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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:36 AM
Author: infuriating puppy

Example:

"And even though TFA members often don’t replace laid-off workers, the optics of the situation are no good."

http://www.thebigmoney.com/articles/diploma-mill/2009/10/15/teach-america-gets-timeout?page=0,1

"Optics" is a branch of physics.

Quit using it as a substitute for "appearances," unless you're trying to make yourself look like a retarded ex-NFL football player who just got his first TV job as an "analyst."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002012)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:36 AM
Author: Pink electric lodge coldplay fan

Never seen that before, but it's incredibly stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002015)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:41 AM
Author: Pearly Zippy Idiot

Slightly different meaning, but how do people feel about "atmospherics."

"I don't think the company's actions actually satisfy the elements of the tort but the atmospherics are so bad I fear the jury will overlook that fact."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002029)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:42 AM
Author: Black Cowardly Internal Respiration House

these are all excellent examples of pretentious douchebaggery commonly found in the writings and conversations of lawyers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002032)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:43 AM
Author: haunting piazza fanboi

BUSINESSMEN

Lawyers don't make up pointless words--we have latin for that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002038)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:45 AM
Author: infuriating puppy

I have never seen or heard a lawyer employ either of those uses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002048)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:42 AM
Author: Pink electric lodge coldplay fan

Just as gross.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002035)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:45 AM
Author: Pearly Zippy Idiot

See, I don't think so.

There is no definition of optics for the purpose the OP is using it.

Atmospherics actually means

"Features, events, or statements intended to create a particular mood or attitude: " (Ken Tucker).

The mood or attitude so created."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002051)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:47 AM
Author: Pink electric lodge coldplay fan

It's a little closer, but I think it's still off. Presumably the company wasn't INTENDING to create the mood of incredible sleaziness when it dumped toxic sludge into candy sold to 3-year-olds.

Also, there are 10 easier ways to say that while it's not technically a tort, it looks just horrible and the jury might be sympathetic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002060)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:49 AM
Author: Pearly Zippy Idiot

Those are seperte definitions, so it describes the "mood or attitude so created" regardless of the intetions of the party creating it.

I'm not disuputing that there are more colloquial ways to make the same point, just that it is not as COMPLETELY FUCKING MADE UP as the OP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002069)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:51 AM
Author: Black Cowardly Internal Respiration House

considering the salubriousness of your post, I will have to associate your atmospherics with a clandestine juvenile emotional apparatus. optically, we may remain FRIENDS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002074)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:53 AM
Author: Pearly Zippy Idiot

TY.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002083)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:55 PM
Author: Charismatic toaster roommate

outstanding utilization of words. i would task you to draft a brief of high importance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13003599)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:48 AM
Author: maniacal aqua whorehouse

yeah you'd use it in criticism for books and movies, as in "not irl," which is where this usage belongs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002063)



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Date: December 26th, 2009 11:53 PM
Author: jade rebellious rigpig

No.

Atmospherics is from the early radio jargon. It stands for electrical interferences due to bad weather (Damn atmospherics again!) Using it for "atmosphere" is already retarded, not to mention an illiterate attempt at a smart-sounding metaphor above.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654396)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:44 AM
Author: infuriating puppy

Also a fucking horrendous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002041)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:44 AM
Author: maniacal aqua whorehouse

lols, the novel "optics" usage i've heard, "atmospherics" not, and it's so ludicrous that I'm hoping you haven't either...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002044)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:38 AM
Author: Dead knife

*gags*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002669)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:29 PM
Author: infuriating puppy

As you should.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13007085)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:48 AM
Author: Elite smoky stage

As a former optics person, that pisses me off quite a lot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002740)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:28 PM
Author: Nudist Supple Home

fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13003371)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:40 PM
Author: Elite smoky stage

*traps you in an optical lattice*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13003476)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:52 PM
Author: Nudist Supple Home

*quantum tunnels under the fence*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13003571)



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Date: October 17th, 2009 2:31 AM
Author: big filthy filthpig blood rage

*gets entangled*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13009456)



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Date: August 15th, 2010 3:19 PM
Author: Silver disrespectful lay

uncertain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#15794284)



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Date: August 15th, 2010 3:19 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#15794277)



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Date: August 15th, 2010 3:18 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Theater

really hear it in politics more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#15794274)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:52 AM
Author: infuriating puppy

You can almost see how the retard gears spun when the first person employed that use of "optics."

"Dude, like, optics sorta has something to do with seeing. And appearances sorta have something to do with seeing. And 'optics' sounds like a smart person word."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002080)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:39 AM
Author: Unhinged at-the-ready depressive

I hear it at last once a week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002675)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:44 AM
Author: Dead knife

Where?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002713)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:45 AM
Author: 180 amethyst pistol

It is what it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002716)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:45 AM
Author: Pearly Zippy Idiot

In this case, it is not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002719)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:45 AM
Author: Dead knife

"Optics" is far worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002723)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:47 AM
Author: Pink electric lodge coldplay fan

This doesn't bother me. It's just the dressed-up equivalent of "Whatever, man."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002731)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:34 PM
Author: idiotic hall cumskin

i don't think that quite captures it. unlike "whatever," "it is what it is" sounds more in resignation than indifference. and is actually just fine as an expression for that reason

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13007123)



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Date: October 17th, 2009 1:46 AM
Author: Pink electric lodge coldplay fan

I think that works. I agree that "it is what it is" is more of an expression of resignation, not one of not caring about the underlying facts.

I think the shared element of both expressions that I was trying to get at was the acknowledgment that certain things could not be changed and needed to be dealt with as they were.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13009148)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:49 AM
Author: Mewling pervert national

yeah, but that's neither here nor there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002744)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:57 PM
Author: Charismatic toaster roommate

this and "under the bus" are staples for not very smart people right now; and those looking for some urban edge work the inane "hating on" into things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13003619)



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Date: December 22nd, 2009 10:20 AM
Author: brindle roast beef

*stabs self with ice pick*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13620558)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:47 AM
Author: Pearly Zippy Idiot

How about using "qua" when it really isn't necessary?

Like saying "shareholders qua shareholders" when it is obvious from the context of the sentence that the action was necessarily undertaken as a shareholder and not an officer, director, whatever.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002733)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:48 AM
Author: Pink electric lodge coldplay fan

Last time you did this, I was torn between asking you what the fuck "qua" even meant and making fun of you for being pretentious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002735)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:51 AM
Author: Pearly Zippy Idiot

I just sent you an epic e-mail.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002753)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:27 PM
Author: Nudist Supple Home

I like it. Don't be such a cantankerous old fart.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13003370)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:49 PM
Author: cerebral place of business location

where did you hear this usage? i have never heard anyone use the word optic in this way. nor have i heard the word atmospherics used in that way either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13003551)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:30 PM
Author: infuriating puppy

"where did you hear this usage?"

Well, among other things, I read it in the article I linked to in the original post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13007095)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:56 PM
Author: gay kink-friendly principal's office

the only thing stupider than "optics" is TFA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13003604)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 2:00 PM
Author: Comical twinkling uncleanness

I was hearing this from our business clients last year - they were always talking about the "optics" of some deal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13003644)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:30 PM
Author: adulterous step-uncle's house

Get over yourself, loser.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13007094)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:31 PM
Author: bright brethren base

BY WHAT METRIC?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13007105)



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Date: November 20th, 2009 11:48 PM
Author: big filthy filthpig blood rage

http://volokh.com/2009/11/20/michael-mcconnell-v-martin-flaherty-on-whether-the-pay-czars-appointment-violates-the-appointments-clause/comment-page-1/#comment-691626

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13325082)



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Date: December 22nd, 2009 9:55 AM
Author: infuriating puppy

Well, it's so far from what I think is necessary that I don't think it's a it's a good bill. But I think if it goes down, just because of the OPTICS of the situation and the way the Republicans have framed this as a make-or-break moment for President Obama, it will make it easier for the Republicans to take control of Congress in 2010.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704304504574610240610282058.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13620438)



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Date: December 22nd, 2009 10:20 AM
Author: brindle roast beef

tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13620562)



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Date: December 26th, 2009 11:31 PM
Author: infuriating puppy

"But the optics of presidential vacations are trickier, particularly in a time of war and economic trouble."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/27/us/politics/27memo.html



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654211)



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Date: December 27th, 2009 12:02 AM
Author: jade rebellious rigpig

This is fucking nosiating. No - vominating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654467)



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Date: December 26th, 2009 11:32 PM
Author: cyan territorial church building

It's very common. Get used to it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654216)



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Date: December 26th, 2009 11:33 PM
Author: infuriating puppy

It's very TTT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654224)



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Date: December 27th, 2009 12:00 AM
Author: jade rebellious rigpig

*raises middle finger to the face level*

"I hope you appreciate the optics of this situation"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654446)



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Date: December 27th, 2009 12:05 AM
Author: jade rebellious rigpig

Why do most of these quotes involve Obama?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654493)



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Date: December 27th, 2009 12:07 AM
Author: milky dilemma

I just bought an EOTech.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654514)



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Date: December 27th, 2009 12:09 AM
Author: geriatric trust fund

Optics has a manly military ring to it. Expect to see more of this term.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654546)



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Date: December 27th, 2009 12:11 AM
Author: infuriating puppy

Maybe that's why business schools love military experience -- business schools get a fresh source of retarded jargon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654563)



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Date: December 27th, 2009 12:13 AM
Author: milky dilemma

I do this shit at work. I give AARs to the partner I work for. Litigation is WAR. HTMFH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654591)



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Date: December 27th, 2009 12:18 AM
Author: infuriating puppy

Does it involve some sort of matrix? All good military/business bullshittery involves a matrix.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654647)



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Date: December 27th, 2009 12:14 AM
Author: jade rebellious rigpig

The institutionalized cretinism of one resonates well with the other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654607)



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Date: April 24th, 2010 6:32 PM
Author: big filthy filthpig blood rage

Horrible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#14810580)



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Date: May 24th, 2010 5:29 PM
Author: Dead knife

"But having acknowledged that it's admittedly gimmicky, probably inconsequential, and face-saving, I don't mind it, for precisely that reason. Ideally, the admin would get its nice OPTICS, and states would get their stabilization funds. This year's deficit should still be higher, and this act wouldn't stop that."

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/05/in-partial-defense-of-obamas-spending-cut-gimmick/57193/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#15072773)



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Date: August 15th, 2010 3:17 PM
Author: hilarious nursing home

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