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Did America stop producing culture after the 90s?
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Date: October 21st, 2020 8:22 PM Author: drunken cyan giraffe The 90s were 20-30 years ago, but 90s celebrities, 90s references, and 90s culture still seems to dominate America. What happened to music, television, and culture in 2000 that suddenly slammed the brakes on progress? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41159805) |
Date: October 21st, 2020 8:48 PM Author: Poppy Ape First half of 2000s were still solid. The Sopranos. The Strokes. |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 8:49 PM Author: 180 aggressive roommate regret LOTR films (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160002) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 8:49 PM Author: Poppy Ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160005) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 8:56 PM Author: drunken cyan giraffe LOTR was the only thing I could really think of. The Sopranos started in 1999 |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:02 PM Author: Cracking casino There were still some good comedies made in the early 2000s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160571) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:03 PM Author: Sooty Massive Cruise Ship as good as dumb and dumber?
but yeah, there were still some good comedies like anchorman, wedding crashers, talledega nights, stuff like that. |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:08 PM Author: Big dun den Titcagadad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160612) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 8:56 PM Author: stubborn messiness I’d say closer to 2010.
The internet fragmenting of audiences and sub-cultures and acceleration of media consumed/being no longer relevant doesn’t create lasting cultural impact.
If Oasis released their first album now it would be on Bandcamp and have 10,000 downloads tops. |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 8:59 PM Author: thirsty fragrant menage I’ve never even heard of bandcamp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160072) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:42 PM Author: indigo self-centered range ok boomer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160823) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 8:59 PM Author: Big dun den The only thing we produce now is blm tranny agenda kikery (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160069) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:00 PM Author: drunken cyan giraffe Even today's most popular cartoon, Spongebob, was started in the 90s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160082) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:01 PM Author: Sooty Massive Cruise Ship ive examined this issue, and it appears that american culture started a nosedive around 2001, incidentally around the time when 9/11 happened, the event that probably broke the idea that america was invincible and untouchable, and therefore, supreme. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160084) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:05 PM Author: Free-loading charismatic personal credit line stage 9/11 has nothing to do with it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160117) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:06 PM Author: Sooty Massive Cruise Ship then why did american culture started going to shit fast post 9/11? the introduction and widespread use of broadband internet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160125) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:03 PM Author: Irradiated fear-inspiring fat ankles faggot firefighter Late 00s rather, with the rise of Obama (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160099) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:05 PM Author: Free-loading charismatic personal credit line stage obama has nothing to do with it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160118) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:06 PM Author: Irradiated fear-inspiring fat ankles faggot firefighter He ushered in identity politics which have taken over our culture (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160127) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:11 PM Author: 180 aggressive roommate regret America is still the a world’s primary cultural exporter. Only the product has changed.
We used to export John Wayne and Mickey Mouse. Now we export BLM to the global left, and Q-anon to the global right
https://twitter.com/JCompson_III/status/1318940301403316224?s=20 |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:20 PM Author: Sooty Massive Cruise Ship john ford and walt disney were the geniuses behind those exports. we have no entrepreneurs/artists creating groundbreaking culture now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160228) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:18 PM Author: Jet-lagged dark doctorate 2000's were a great decade for rock music fans. this was also the golden age of the internet
2007 was probably the peak of american cinema
2016 was probably the peak of american television
2010s brought festival/EDM culture to the US, and we took it up a notch
idk what you're talking about? grunge music?
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:22 PM Author: Irradiated fear-inspiring fat ankles faggot firefighter Explain points 2 and 3 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160246) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:27 PM Author: Jet-lagged dark doctorate you're a pumo. don't ever reply to me again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160277) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:45 PM Author: Big dun den Harsh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160433) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:22 PM Author: Sooty Massive Cruise Ship american rock peaked in the 60/70s.
america cinema peaked in the 70/80/90s.
american television was best in the 80s/90s.
edm sucks...
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:23 PM Author: Poppy Ape "EDM" was better in the 90s and early 2000s anyway when it was called techno or house music. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160261) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:24 PM Author: Irradiated fear-inspiring fat ankles faggot firefighter NOBODY LISTENS TO TECHNO! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160264) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:25 PM Author: Sooty Massive Cruise Ship fuck yeah. i love electronic dance and house music. it was truly great in the 90s.
now its just a sea of garbage. even the bands that ushered it couldnt take it anywhere after the big 90s explosion.
by edm i assumed he referred to trash like that mouse dj faggot... |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:13 PM Author: shivering irate tanning salon I cried when I visited the Orbital wikipedia page and they are now 'EDM'. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160643) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:29 PM Author: Jet-lagged dark doctorate we can debate "peaks" all we want, but frankly, i don't have any interest comparing the killers to the eagles, or GoT to Leave it to Beaver
replace "peak" with "great years" and my point stands
EDM is gay but ULTRA, Lolla and DAYGLOW were legit cultural phenomenons. i guess im talking more about the festival scene. also: burning man mid 2010's blows any 400-person 1996 Seattle Rave out of the water
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:01 PM Author: Sooty Massive Cruise Ship killers suck.. eagles had like one good song, they dont represent peak rock.
GoT aint all that, especially season 4 and ESPECIALLy onwards... leave it to beaver? thats not peak US tv.
i have no idea what ultra, lolla and dayglow are... |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:59 PM Author: shivering irate tanning salon "2007 was probably the peak of american cinema"
lol wtf nigger the peak of American kino was the 70s. |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:02 PM Author: Sooty Massive Cruise Ship "kino"
180, sir. |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:25 PM Author: chartreuse windowlicker reality tv fucked it up. THX BOOMERS! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160272) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:26 PM Author: Sooty Massive Cruise Ship good candidate. all that reality tv was insane. it took over the airwaves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160276) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:27 PM Author: startled fuchsia house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160281) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:31 PM Author: stubborn messiness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160310) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:32 PM Author: Spruce preventive strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160323) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:35 PM Author: Big dun den Give us the inside scoop on now blm and gay rights faggotry has destroyed creativity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160346) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:37 PM Author: startled fuchsia house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160373) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:40 PM Author: Jet-lagged dark doctorate who the hell needs a studio contract in 2020?
you complain about execs today being worried about public opinion but that has existed throughout time (elvis, NWA, queen, etc). if anything things are better today
your post rides on the premise that all of our culture is top-down, ie it comes from record labels/producers/media execs. i reject this. I guess you consider the monolithic aesthetic of Chicago Mad Men to be peak culture
this is written like a boomer. I get that people are pissed because of Netflix being shitlib, and hollywood selling out to the Chinese, but you complete ignore mediums like twitch, YouTube, and Spotify, which make it easier-than-ever to find new artists
you just arent looking
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:44 PM Author: 180 aggressive roommate regret In times past, one didn't have to go looking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160425) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:25 PM Author: Mahogany Hissy Fit Step-uncle's House https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZFSdG38XTHs/hqdefault.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160715) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:45 PM Author: startled fuchsia house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160434) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:50 PM Author: Jet-lagged dark doctorate my point is that those costs are now lower than ever
You say it's harder than ever for a struggling artist to produce content and get it to the masses. I say this is demonstrably false
If you don't think live-streaming is a cultural phenomenon idk what to say. Agree it's not art but it is culturally relevant
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:53 PM Author: startled fuchsia house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160502) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:02 PM Author: Cracking casino (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160578) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:07 PM Author: Jet-lagged dark doctorate This reeks of nostalgia. No one today can sing like Freddy Mercury? Ok boomer
Your entire premise is: There were much less options back then, but they were better funded and had bigger influence because of this.
And yes, I would trade anything Led Zeppelin for another original Blink 182 album. And travis barker and the dude from MCR are better.
Are you going to argue that Avatar and Dark Knight had no cultural influence, or just that they suck?
It's just funny to me that you say my music is worse because I can stream anything I want instead of listening to the same 40-songs on the radio. But those radio artists were soooo much better!
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:13 PM Author: startled fuchsia house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160640) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:19 PM Author: Sooty Massive Cruise Ship holy shit dude...
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:20 PM Author: Jet-lagged dark doctorate are you arguing that they suck, or that they had no cultural influence (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160684) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:24 PM Author: Sooty Massive Cruise Ship that they suck, relatively speaking. and whatever culture influence they had they had inherited from a previous stronger culture and exploited it, to emerge with a weak product that only impresses those who are still in the now, before their consciousness extends farther into the reaches of time to connect with the whole of the human experience, not just whatever came out recently. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160714) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:30 PM Author: startled fuchsia house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160752) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:43 PM Author: Jet-lagged dark doctorate It's like you went to bed early last night and missed 350,000 people watching AOC on Twitch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160824) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:44 PM Author: Sooty Massive Cruise Ship wow dude... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160827) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:34 PM Author: Jet-lagged dark doctorate *hits blunt*
"You just had to be there mannnnnnnn"
No one today listens to this shit, so you're wrong. You just don't like modern music, and I 100% understand that. But unfortunately, cultural relevance in 2020 isn't determined by Gen-x deadheads |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:41 PM Author: Sooty Massive Cruise Ship im millennial... but ive had time to absorb a lot of culture from the past.
and it WAS better.
i do occasionally enjoy some new music, like burial's music, or the knife and fever ray, new raidohead stuff.. so mostly electronic, i guess. but its all pre 2010.. 2010 and on is just a total wasteland to me.
oh forgot tv on the radio, they were alright and them and radiohead did some post 2010 ok music...i guess. its not blowing my mind or anything.
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Date: October 21st, 2020 11:03 PM Author: startled fuchsia house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160922) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:22 PM Author: Poppy Ape For the amount they spent on Avatar, it really did have zero influence. I can barely remember the actual plot of the movie at all - it was just some goofy gimmick that got some people to buy 3D-TVs for a couple years and was quickly forgotten. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160698) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:26 PM Author: Sooty Massive Cruise Ship james cameron is dead to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160721) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:26 PM Author: Jet-lagged dark doctorate it completely changed cinema and was the genesis of us whoring out to China. It was a cultural phenomenon. See: Avengers
you are just arguing that you liked movies from the 80's more, not that we haven't produced any culturally significant movies |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:34 PM Author: Big dun den Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160778) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:49 PM Author: Cracking casino problem with this is that the contracts and $ allowed (and sometimes forced) them to produce a real quality product. Classic albums often had a lot of production involved, w the artists holed up somewhere for months where they were able to experiment w experienced producers and editors on hand etc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160470) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:50 PM Author: startled fuchsia house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160482) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:52 PM Author: Jet-lagged dark doctorate Dude Bon Iver recorded one of the best albums of the decade with $800 and a two-month rental of a cabin in Wisconsin. Idk what to say besides y'all need to get out more (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160489) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:54 PM Author: startled fuchsia house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160505) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:55 PM Author: Cracking casino ok now I'm being flamed but so did Beck and Trent Reznor and others, but they would not be rock stars today and most would probably pursue other careers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160507) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:51 PM Author: excitant know-it-all box office immigrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160486) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:19 PM Author: Soul-stirring Mauve Mad-dog Skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160676) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:36 PM Author: Garnet Boyish Mood Parlor IDK
Our culture of viewing everything through the lens of race first has spread to almost all western countries to some extent. It's spread to countries that are still 90% white and have never really had race problems. It's even supplanted some of their own grievances (race is taking the place of class and religion, how lines were drawn in the UK and on the continent for 6 centuries). |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:45 PM Author: Big dun den Jfc libs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160428) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:39 PM Author: Burgundy dingle berry As with most things related to our civilizational collapse, social media and rapid communication is largely to blame. Think of the way culture develops - there needs to be relative isolation so weird little groups can sprout up independently. On a macro level, different language and cultures only exist due to isolation thousands of years ago. On a smaller level, think of 90s music for example - you had grunge, ska, big band, folk revival, jam bands, punk - there was room to be weird and independent, and that makes for a great overall national culture.
Let's mark the real take off of social media at 2004 with facebook. With social media and the advancements in communication (cell phones and email, 24/7 news) society became too interconnected to develop anything unique and weird. Its attention span also became too short, and it became a liability to be different. Uniqueness, Craftsmanship, were replaced by a blur of shouting and twerking, for thirty seconds each, to achieve mass consumption.
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:44 PM Author: stubborn messiness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160424) |
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Date: October 26th, 2020 4:59 AM Author: Geriatric mind-boggling public bath ladyboy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41188529) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:42 PM Author: Jet-lagged dark doctorate yoga pants > snap bracelets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160407) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:47 PM Author: Exciting Cowardly Halford Music and movies, yes, due to white libs pandering to low IQ blacks.
TV shows have gotten significantly better due to people switching to streaming and the big media companies spending a ton of cash on content. |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:56 PM Author: Yapping Aqua Marketing Idea Died with Cobain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160514) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:22 PM Author: Sooty Massive Cruise Ship strong case to be made for this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160694) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:21 PM Author: Sable Base Southern noir films alone disprove this.
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:22 PM Author: shivering irate tanning salon NAME them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160697) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:26 PM Author: Sable Base Winters bone
Killer joe
Mud
That one with Nicolas cage chewing scenery in 2013 |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:29 PM Author: Sooty Massive Cruise Ship *barf* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160745) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:42 PM Author: Sable Base You suck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160820) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:27 PM Author: Jet-lagged dark doctorate As does the modern renaissance in documentary film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160733) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:31 PM Author: Sooty Massive Cruise Ship name one "modern" documentary better than baraka or lessons of darkness by herzog... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160765) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:25 PM Author: laughsome frisky pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160720) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:27 PM Author: Jet-lagged dark doctorate AIM Chat Rooms | Halo 2 Lan Parties | First Edition Charizard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160732) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:31 PM Author: drunken cyan giraffe Halo 3 was awesome (2 was ok) with friends; the rest of this was from the 1990s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160766) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:33 PM Author: Sooty Massive Cruise Ship this is around the time it was all turning to mud. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41160772) |
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Date: October 26th, 2020 5:22 AM Author: Puce famous landscape painting yep, coasting since then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4658025&forum_id=2#41188551) |