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Law clerk did shitty work - let it go or report it up the chain?
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:08 PM Author: lake range stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068369) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM Author: Erotic Orange Bbw i'd say chew him out pretty good but don't rat him out unless he fucks up again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068377) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM Author: irate garrison Why don't you just bitch him out and make him redo it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068379) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:10 PM Author: Twinkling soul-stirring hospital just sit down with him and run through all the problems with it. you probably should have checked in with him sooner to see how he was progressing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068387) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:11 PM Author: lake range stock car
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:14 PM Author: curious laser beams Very important. What was the fuck up?
If it was something like a SJ motion, he has no excuses. Even if the arguments are off, it should be relatively straightforward.
But if it's something obscure where 5 people in the history of the earth ever did, and he messed up, cut him some slack.
Example, once a dude asked me to draft some NY REAL PROPERTY MOTION Discharging a mortgage. There were no samples, he had no idea how to do it, and the clerk of the court was like "LOL". I had no idea what law it was based on.
I ended up doing it based on reading the CPLR and the NY Real Property Law and it took THREE filings for the judge to actually accept it.
Client was pissed it took so long but MY BAD BRO I HAD NO IDEA HOW TO DO IT. |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:16 PM Author: lake range stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068428) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:17 PM Author: Nubile avocado clown lol as if he cares what johnsmeyer thinks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068432) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:21 PM Author: curious laser beams 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068472) |
Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM Author: razzle stage is he coming on after graduation? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068378) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:10 PM Author: lake range stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068390) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:11 PM Author: Magical snowy trump supporter coffee pot "....he should be thankful he has this opportunity."
You sound like a fucking boomer. |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:13 PM Author: Glittery Kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068407) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:13 PM Author: lake range stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068408) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:21 PM Author: irate garrison How much does he get paid? How large is the firm? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068467) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:12 PM Author: electric abode only credited question in the entire thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424545) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:14 PM Author: Misunderstood Rigpig Hell I'd say chew his ass out, but do what you can to cover for him. Make sure he knows that he is your bitch now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068414) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:19 PM Author: multi-colored pistol this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068445) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:23 PM Author: Frisky lay philosopher-king titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068870) |
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Date: April 25th, 2013 11:53 AM Author: Racy crackhouse 180, especially this part:
"Make sure he knows that he is your bitch now" |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:28 PM Author: Cracking Cruise Ship Friendly Grandma i.e., pulling a Pete Campbell? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424678) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:15 PM Author: Glittery Kitty are you female? just deal with this between the two of you. i would say patiently go through it with him and make it obvious how much it sucks but without directly saying it sucks.
the best policy is to shame him in a way that makes him feel he let you down but without him feeling resentment toward you. so don't be a dick to him about it. |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:18 PM Author: lake range stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068437) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:20 PM Author: At-the-ready gold sandwich If he fucks up again though, you know what to do ---> shitcan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068455) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:20 PM Author: Wonderful beta foreskin lodge How much does he get paid? Biglaw? Is this one of those ip externship deals? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068457) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:23 PM Author: lake range stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068487) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:19 PM Author: provocative filthy water buffalo If he gets paid a shit ton then there is no excuse. If it is $12 an hour and is drafting Motions or briefs or has some esoteric research assignment then maybe not. As you shoudld have been more on top of it. This doesn't sound like is the case though.
Sidenote: When I was a clerk, I was getting $10-15. One time, a Partner wrote "shit" on one of the briefs I drafted for him. The only real reason he told me he wrote it was because I didn't repetitively include a common phrase/piece of jargon that he had wrote in the margins a few times. I will never forget that day.
I probably would have little pity for a highly paid kid who just does shit work on petty shit.
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Date: April 25th, 2013 12:06 PM Author: Glittery Kitty protip most people -- especially perfectionist law dorks -- will do their best whether making $15 per hour or $50 per hour. and some people may actually perform WORSE making more because they feel too stressed to be perfect given their high pay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074285) |
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Date: April 25th, 2013 12:14 PM Author: Wonderful beta foreskin lodge I don't believe that you're a professional employment consultant and that was REMINDER at best. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074327) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:22 PM Author: Bespoke hairy legs box office if it's a small office, dont cover for him. you dont want to have to work with a bitchass like that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068867) |
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Date: April 25th, 2013 11:54 AM Author: gaped tattoo chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074231) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:07 PM Author: lake range stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424518) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:13 PM Author: high-end school regret Did he have a good reputation before this?
It's hard to imagine someone doing that unless they don't care / don't respect you. |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:14 PM Author: lake range stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424556) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:13 PM Author: electric abode what type of firm are you at?
no doobs but it's kind of hard to get a handle on all this b/c i've never heard of a firm with a 3L clerk or whatever. |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:15 PM Author: lake range stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424564) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:16 PM Author: electric abode gotcha. so this is like non-shitlaw type stuff? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424572) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:16 PM Author: lake range stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424575) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:17 PM Author: electric abode so this bro just cost himself huge since he went from potential midlaw type salary to NEVERWILLBEJERB (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424583) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:19 PM Author: lake range stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424599) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:17 PM Author: mildly autistic flatulent dragon How times have changed. Back in the old days even Cravath would ask summers to stay on as 3L law clerks who work part time. 'twas a simpler time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424581) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:19 PM Author: big wrinkle if you already knew everything he needed to do and gave him from Friday until Sunday to do it, why did it then take you so long to do it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424594) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:21 PM Author: lake range stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424614) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:24 PM Author: big wrinkle the way you described it made it seem like you told him exactly what needed to be done to fix stuff, not that he was rewriting/researching stuff from scratch
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:57 PM Author: navy trust fund messiness How did he get hired if he is seemingly too dumb to finish projects? Has he always been bad at work? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424878) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:38 PM Author: vivacious spruce pocket flask Do you feel any guilt you ruined this bros life? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424748) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:51 PM Author: mauve exciting associate travel guidebook School range? If legit TTT then don't feel bad, he shouldn't have gone to law school in the first place (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424825) |