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Conservetards: explain your espousal of IQ tests
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Date: May 13th, 2013 1:29 PM Author: racy honey-headed philosopher-king OK so conturds are running an "IQ tests are imperative to the future out our country" schtick. What's the end of game of an IQ test revealing that LaQuanda and Jamal in the southside of Chicago can't score as high on an IQ test as Billy and Megan from the suburbs?
What exactly are you trying to prove? That whites/asians are better at standardized tests? because we already know this |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 1:31 PM Author: Garnet Appetizing Plaza (MAF LOW IQ MINORITY/SHITLIB) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23189574) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 1:32 PM Author: racy honey-headed philosopher-king (TEAtard) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23189586) |
Date: May 13th, 2013 1:36 PM Author: brindle adulterous regret internal respiration it has economic implications in terms of immigration. if it turns out that lower-IQ populations are less-able to build or maintain modern technocratic societies, then it stands to reason that importing millions of them might not be such a grand idea. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23189602) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 1:37 PM Author: racy honey-headed philosopher-king This sounds more like a socioeconomic problem, not a racial one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23189611) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 1:44 PM Author: brindle adulterous regret internal respiration it's not really a racial "question" in the sense of anything being determined BY race. if our immigration system is picking between the nigerian engineer and some undistinguished random bro from sweden, then the nigerian should get preference, obviously, but ethnicity comes up due to the sheer volume of immigration from mexico and central america.
those populations have middling-to-poor IQ scores on average, and that has economic implications for the US itself. |
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Date: May 14th, 2013 5:00 PM Author: Soul-stirring Disgusting Tanning Salon no shit. so why are libs screaming about race? do you think it's because it's a red herring routinely trotted out to distract from actual issues and potential solutions to obvious and terrible problems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23198159) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 1:50 PM Author: Twisted School Cafeteria People Who Are Hurt iq is a shit metric for immigration purposes. almost meaningless and far less meaningful than 100 things we could come up with in 5 minutes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23189664) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 1:52 PM Author: orange karate roast beef Name 10 more meaningful things (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23189674) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 1:59 PM Author: Twisted School Cafeteria People Who Are Hurt reasons for immigrating occupation criminal background education literacy languages destination current citizenship age driving status |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 2:04 PM Author: orange karate roast beef Driving status? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23189714) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 2:05 PM Author: Twisted School Cafeteria People Who Are Hurt driving licensure status. i.e. can the applicant drive a car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23189723) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 2:31 PM Author: orange karate roast beef You realize 14 year olds learn to drive cars in about two weeks? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23189833) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 2:37 PM Author: Twisted School Cafeteria People Who Are Hurt they don't, but even so, point? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23189868) |
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Date: May 15th, 2013 8:11 AM Author: Domesticated casino knife Fukkkkk you are a retard with a low IQ fighting for your low IQ brothers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23202502) |
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Date: May 15th, 2013 6:22 AM Author: Spectacular Grizzly Jap Sanctuary Libs wouldn't get their way with those criteria either (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23202466) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 1:37 PM Author: Flesh Dashing Really Tough Guy "Standardized test" is a weaponized word in your post. You mean to diminish the importance of IQ by calling it merely something measured by "standardized tests". You could do that with anything, though. The ability to dunk a basketball or earn an income sufficient to provide for your children can be measured by certain standardized tests, too, right shitlib?
The point is that this particular variable, IQ, is predictive of functioning well in society. And we spend billions on endeavors, like education and immigration regulation, that presume IQs are not correlated with race or ethnicity. If they indeed are, we should redesign these enormous social programs to take this into account.
If flowers won't grow well in January in Chicago, the city shouldnt pay to plant them then. Or it should plant them indoors, etc. |
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Date: May 14th, 2013 5:02 PM Author: Soul-stirring Disgusting Tanning Salon good poast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23198181) |
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Date: May 15th, 2013 8:25 AM Author: exciting internet-worthy pozpig base I'm not sure apartheid is a viable solution to low performing urban schools (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23202530) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 1:48 PM Author: orange karate roast beef You know how Mexico is poorer, more violent, less educated, and dirtier than the US? And how it has terrible infrastructure and corruption?
Turns out if we let in the worst performing members of that society into our society, we will become more of all those things.
Also, its relevant because libs like to point to all these stats to show how America is FAILING - yet if you took a white state like Maine it would usually be at the top. America isn't failing - we just have a shittier hand than a lot of other places in the world. |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 1:51 PM Author: brindle adulterous regret internal respiration it also leads to ridiculous things such as political demagogues blaming "the schools" for not having a magical ability to educate certain populations to unachievable standards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23189668) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 1:51 PM Author: Trip party of the first part twinkling uncleanness Using IQ tests this way is usually motivated by discriminatory animus
The only other arg is that we don't have any other viable metric for sifting out the desirables from undesirables, but that's probably wrong. |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 2:06 PM Author: hot locale chad it's stupid. most immigrants are adults not children. we can easily evaluate their education and skills and only let highly skilled workers into the country. IQ, race, or national origin shouldn't enter into the decision at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23189726) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 2:09 PM Author: Flesh Dashing Really Tough Guy Except "skills" as you suggest will just be another way of talking about IQ which will just be another way of talking about, by and large, race and national origin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23189737) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 2:12 PM Author: hot locale chad that's fine. i'm not advocating giving immigrants IQ tests. but if they have years of experience or masters or phds in areas of need from somewhat respected schools in their part of the world, they should jump to the front of the line. if such qualifications effectively function as a proxy for IQ, so be it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23189751) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 3:25 PM Author: vibrant skinny woman idk about that idea - i mean, the reason that high iq STEM doods in natural sciences are having such a hard time finding work because the market is so oversaturated with chinks and turdskins because the giant corporations want the market saturated to drive down wages.
My opinion is that the US gov should be protecting the interests of US citizens (whites) rather than the interests of the turdskins/chinks and the giant corporations, regardless of skill level. |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 3:35 PM Author: hot locale chad no, salaries for middle skill IT, finance, and other work are suppressed due to workers who come to the US on H1B visas. these are the people who big companies want to allow in mass numbers to keep labor costs down. i agree that they should not be allowed or taxed heavily to help native born workers, whatever their race.
at the higher end, the US must invite and actively court the highest achieving scientists and engineers no matter where they're from. if you go to the best STEM graduate programs in the US, they're full of foreigners because americans don't want to work that hard. if the us doesn't let these people work and become citizens of the US the country will be left behind. |
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Date: May 14th, 2013 5:11 PM Author: Puce histrionic stead half-breed "the US must invite and actively court the highest achieving scientists and engineers no matter where they're from"
if you're talking about tesla, von braun, etc. types i can understand. but that's already covered by o-visas and the easier path to citizenship typically afforded to those who come via such.
the point is, we have enough talent in the u.s. for everything short of super-geniuses. our shitty corporate overlords and financiers just don't want to pay them. hence, are immigration policy. |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 2:13 PM Author: hairraiser hospital IQ is the number one predictor of educational and financial success. Given that, if it really is true that Hispanics have low IQs there is no way we should allow a ton of them to immigrate to our country. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23189760) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 2:38 PM Author: plum sneaky criminal so many question begging statements here. this could make for a really easy logical reasoning lsat question
is the first sentence actually generally accepted by people that study this shit? even given that, aren't there other plausible reasons to accept people with lower iqs (e.g., cheap labor, altruism)? and aren't there other important predictors for one's ability to contribute to society? |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 3:26 PM Author: vibrant skinny woman "is the first sentence actually generally accepted by people that study this shit?"
Yes you retard quit watching NBC. |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 3:31 PM Author: Godawful stage son of senegal just display your flaming ignorance, bro.
this is why the standard of public discourse on IQ and immigration is so appallingly bad.
p.s the other reasons you suggest don't stand any examination. you can't save the world by giving out green cards. |
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Date: May 15th, 2013 6:32 AM Author: cerebral gas station I don't know if it's number one, but it's gotta be top three at least. conscientiousness is also a big one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23202469) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 2:44 PM Author: Carmine mind-boggling theatre Irish IQ scores are extremely low. We need to ban irish immigrants (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23189919) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 3:08 PM Author: brindle adulterous regret internal respiration they seem to test mostly around the 97-98 range. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23190047) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 3:35 PM Author: Yellow Painfully Honest Gunner You are so fucking stupid it is not even funny. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23190262) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 7:27 PM Author: Scarlet Fragrant Kitchen (Paddy McTauraughd) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23191815) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 3:11 PM Author: Godawful stage son of senegal no one's actually advocating the use of IQ tests to determine entry and residence, you literal minded dumbs. it's simply more, and fairly watertight, evidence that there should be far more stringent immigration controls. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23190068) |
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Date: May 15th, 2013 5:02 AM Author: Cerise rough-skinned heaven halford they ought to be, though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23202435) |
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Date: May 16th, 2013 6:31 PM Author: Godawful stage son of senegal shutup you toxic dork (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23212076) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 3:29 PM Author: odious native becky we just need to apply some standards along the lines of a job interview: what can you do for us (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23190213) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 7:33 PM Author: Coral rehab legal warrant end of disparate impact litigation or really any policy in which equality of outcome trumps all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23191842) |
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Date: May 15th, 2013 5:03 AM Author: Cerise rough-skinned heaven halford cr
also, ending excessive education spending |
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Date: May 15th, 2013 6:31 AM Author: cerebral gas station ending disparate impact would be great (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23202467) |
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Date: May 16th, 2013 6:37 PM Author: Poppy newt jewess titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254843&forum_id=2#23212111) |