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Median 401k average by age

Under 25 - $2,800 25 to 34 - $15,000 35 to 44 - $36,000 4...
Sepia stirring athletic conference range
  05/13/25
how do people afford to live in this country? the math reall...
Maize Thriller Stead Laser Beams
  05/13/25
the math ain't mathing frfr
Buff state jew
  05/13/25
when gen x and beyond really start retiring en masse, there ...
Idiotic racy parlour
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Most people have all cash bu$ine$$e$ and make bank while dum...
Cracking poppy garrison pervert
  05/13/25
Ouch
at-the-ready chad senate
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  05/14/25
These sites massively overestimate the cost of "retirem...
exciting unhinged mood rehab
  05/13/25
that might be true, but it makes sense that "they"...
Buff state jew
  05/14/25
it depends largely on whether or not you own a house my d...
french titillating plaza
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Every prole I know regards SS as a retirement account. It&rs...
chartreuse 180 sneaky criminal kitchen
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and cost of living isnt changing as a result of manic QE dur...
Orange foreskin travel guidebook
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Cr. I know people that have very little cash and just use so...
Electric public bath people who are hurt
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The other thing I am always suspicious of with these statist...
hilarious depressive hissy fit
  05/20/25
I feel like most people I interact with have vast amounts of...
motley violent organic girlfriend
  05/20/25
thats cuz u gay
french titillating plaza
  05/20/25
401k = fraud
mewling area digit ratio
  05/13/25
wowza
fantasy-prone excitant antidepressant drug striped hyena
  05/13/25
I’m mid-40s and I don’t even have a 401(k)
soul-stirring love of her life gunner
  05/13/25
Do you have 1,000,000k in Schwab or something
glittery center
  05/13/25
He has millions and millions and pretends to be poor as a sc...
Curious tattoo goal in life
  05/13/25
Jfc why are people so poor.
Ruby regret spot
  05/13/25
Maybe don’t elect politicians bought by billioniares?
at-the-ready chad senate
  05/14/25
Jobs pay shit
green rebellious legend bawdyhouse
  05/14/25
This stuff should be funded automatically and irrevocably an...
glittery center
  05/13/25
Is this a flame stat? Most people are going to roll their 40...
histrionic roast beef
  05/14/25
Yeah, I have only about $150k in my current 401k, but I swit...
very tactful vivacious theatre multi-billionaire
  05/14/25
Lmao. Yeah the average Walmart worker has $450k in his old e...
chocolate sex offender electric furnace
  05/14/25
You sound shit with money, if you make even just $200K you s...
histrionic roast beef
  05/14/25
I have kids
chocolate sex offender electric furnace
  05/14/25
? Even if you have "kids" you are still eligible t...
histrionic roast beef
  05/20/25
Cr
hilarious depressive hissy fit
  05/20/25
Even if that were the case, it probably wouldn't affect the ...
glittery center
  05/14/25
Sure it would, because they're looking at the median account...
histrionic roast beef
  05/14/25
That wouldn't matter in the real data set imo. also it's eas...
glittery center
  05/14/25
yeah, every account he listed is over every single one of th...
Aromatic Ebony Indirect Expression
  05/20/25
Here’s the report. I doubt what you’re saying ha...
Pungent comical corner partner
  05/14/25
What does this mean for Liberals like us?
glittery center
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glittery center
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even though the counterarguments ITT suck, I still believe t...
Aromatic Ebony Indirect Expression
  05/20/25
Most people contribute just enough to get the match if at al...
glittery center
  05/20/25
100% true and accurate post. If only you knew how bad th...
Spruce lascivious pit potus
  05/20/25
he does know obviously, as do I. IDK why people are pretendi...
chartreuse 180 sneaky criminal kitchen
  05/20/25
I have no idea if they are counting people with no 401k in t...
Passionate windowlicker
  05/20/25
The numbers are usually e.g. from fidelity you idiot. It&rsq...
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Date: May 13th, 2025 10:49 PM
Author: Sepia stirring athletic conference range

Under 25 - $2,800

25 to 34 - $15,000

35 to 44 - $36,000

45 to 54 - $61,000

55 to 64 - $87,000

Over 65 - $88,000

Per Vanguard's 2024 report

https://x.com/grok/status/1922262989551632557

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48928613)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 10:51 PM
Author: Maize Thriller Stead Laser Beams

how do people afford to live in this country? the math really doesn't work out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48928618)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 10:52 PM
Author: Buff state jew

the math ain't mathing frfr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48928627)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 11:24 PM
Author: Idiotic racy parlour

when gen x and beyond really start retiring en masse, there is going to be a legitimate crisis. assuming the world hasn’t already been upended by ai.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48928760)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 11:25 PM
Author: Cracking poppy garrison pervert

Most people have all cash bu$ine$$e$ and make bank while dumb lawyers pay 45% of their income in taxes and hand the rest over to their shrew wives

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48928766)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 11:41 PM
Author: at-the-ready chad senate

Ouch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48928828)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 11:25 PM
Author: Iridescent talented casino pisswyrm

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724466&mc=1&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48928768)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 4:17 PM
Author: domesticated mauve mad-dog skullcap native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48930819)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 11:29 PM
Author: exciting unhinged mood rehab

These sites massively overestimate the cost of "retirement" - most older people

1. Have paid off or at least low mortgage homes

2. Get social security

3. Continue to work and have some income

4. Don't have dependents and have pretty low expenses

The idea that you need to have enough 401k to be able to match your current $300k salary for 30 years doing no work is just 401k propaganda.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48928789)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 8:50 AM
Author: Buff state jew

that might be true, but it makes sense that "they" would overstate what you need in retirement. but that is irrelevant to the OP. if someone is 50 years old and has $88k or whatever saved for retirement, they are in a very bad situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48929307)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: french titillating plaza

it depends largely on whether or not you own a house

my dad is worth negative dollars but the house is paid off and he basically has no expenses beyond food and medicine so he can completely live off social security

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48929316)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 9:05 AM
Author: chartreuse 180 sneaky criminal kitchen

Every prole I know regards SS as a retirement account. It’s ignominious but they have low standards and don’t care.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48929341)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 10:57 AM
Author: Orange foreskin travel guidebook

and cost of living isnt changing as a result of manic QE during covid (a trend initiated in 2008) right?

groceries will still cost $100/wk in 20 years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48929646)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: Electric public bath people who are hurt

Cr. I know people that have very little cash and just use social security and reverse mortgage their house. You don't need to leave anything to your kids lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48929528)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 7:39 AM
Author: hilarious depressive hissy fit

The other thing I am always suspicious of with these statistics is that I suspect they don’t aggregate multiple accounts. The average office worker today has a 401k plus three different rollover Ira’s from prior jerbs often held by different custodians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48946574)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 8:20 AM
Author: motley violent organic girlfriend

I feel like most people I interact with have vast amounts of generational wealth and then the rest just Yolo credit card it. Few people I know are like me and work for every penny they have and I feel stupid for choosing this route a lot of times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48946614)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: french titillating plaza

thats cuz u gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48946650)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 10:51 PM
Author: mewling area digit ratio

401k = fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48928620)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: fantasy-prone excitant antidepressant drug striped hyena

wowza

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48928726)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 11:30 PM
Author: soul-stirring love of her life gunner

I’m mid-40s and I don’t even have a 401(k)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48928792)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: glittery center

Do you have 1,000,000k in Schwab or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48928841)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 11:54 PM
Author: Curious tattoo goal in life

He has millions and millions and pretends to be poor as a schtick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48928843)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 11:32 PM
Author: Ruby regret spot

Jfc why are people so poor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48928804)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 10:16 AM
Author: at-the-ready chad senate

Maybe don’t elect politicians bought by billioniares?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48929524)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: green rebellious legend bawdyhouse

Jobs pay shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48930956)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: glittery center

This stuff should be funded automatically and irrevocably and at the lower of like 17% of salary or 30k/yr. This way there’d be fewer destitute property support and Houses/Cars/mcdonalds wouldn’t be so inflated. Fuck “freedom.” Proles need to be RULED.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48928835)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 9:11 AM
Author: histrionic roast beef

Is this a flame stat? Most people are going to roll their 401k into IRA's when they change jobs, so their 401k balance could be low even if they're millionaires. Or even if they just leave their old 401(k) in their old plan, instead of one person with 500,000 they may show up as a 300K and a 200K. We've done the scholarship on XO and everybody is a millionaire, so their net worth must be in something else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48929355)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 9:46 AM
Author: very tactful vivacious theatre multi-billionaire

Yeah, I have only about $150k in my current 401k, but I switched jobs about five years ago. But I have $450k in a former employer's 401k. (This employer pays some of my health care expenses in retirement, but I lose that benefit if I roll over my 401k. It doesn't make sense to me, either, but I didn't roll it over for that reason.) I also have about $400k in Roth IRA's (some of which is money I rolled over from 401k's when I was younger). My wife also has about $200k in Roth IRA's and another $100k in her 401k. So if you only look at one of our accounts in a vacuum, it looks like we are fucked, but if you combine all of our accounts, we are in pretty solid shape.

TLDR: Median retirement balances are meaningless because most people have multiple accounts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48929470)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: chocolate sex offender electric furnace

Lmao. Yeah the average Walmart worker has $450k in his old employers 401k. I make $200k a year which is shit yet there are plenty of people who make $80k. Even I have periods where I bought a house, etc where I lowered my 401k contribution to zero just to have the cash on hand. Lmao at a $80k employee having more in his 401k than $150k or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48929531)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: histrionic roast beef

You sound shit with money, if you make even just $200K you should at least be maxing 401(k), IRA, HSA, and iBonds every year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48929565)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: chocolate sex offender electric furnace

I have kids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48929611)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 2:05 AM
Author: histrionic roast beef

? Even if you have "kids" you are still eligible to contribute to the aforementioned accounts, friend!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48946382)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: hilarious depressive hissy fit

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48946577)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: glittery center

Even if that were the case, it probably wouldn't affect the MEDIAN much imho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48929543)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: histrionic roast beef

Sure it would, because they're looking at the median account, not how much the median account holder actually has. To do a super simplified example, if everybody has $300K in their 401(k), then the median is $300K. But if everybody has three 401(k)'s of $100K each, the median is $100K despite them all having $300K.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48929564)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 10:38 AM
Author: glittery center

That wouldn't matter in the real data set imo. also it's easy to transfer 401ks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48929577)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 2:53 AM
Author: Aromatic Ebony Indirect Expression

yeah, every account he listed is over every single one of those medians above. so actually he and his wife helped boost the median like 6 times instead of 2 per his own analysis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48946402)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: Pungent comical corner partner

Here’s the report. I doubt what you’re saying has any impact. You can see in the data that the median length of time of participation is very short, the income subject to contribution (70k) not very high, and the amount that’s contributed each year is paltry (about a few thousand). Most people don’t start in a 401k job until they're practically mid-career and then they (and their employer) contribute next to nothing.

https://corporate.vanguard.com/content/dam/corp/research/pdf/how_america_saves_report_2024.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48929780)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:22 PM
Author: glittery center

What does this mean for Liberals like us?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48929937)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:33 PM
Author: chartreuse 180 sneaky criminal kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48929971)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:41 PM
Author: french titillating plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48930019)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 1:11 PM
Author: glittery center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48930135)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 4:16 PM
Author: domesticated mauve mad-dog skullcap native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48930817)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 4:32 PM
Author: glittery center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48930875)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 2:54 AM
Author: Aromatic Ebony Indirect Expression

even though the counterarguments ITT suck, I still believe those numbers are flame. anyone who has had even a remotely white collar job or proles who have blue collar jobs who work for big companies (e.g., Amazon warehouse drone) will have stocks away enough + have compounding returns over the years to be above the medians listed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48946403)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 7:28 AM
Author: glittery center

Most people contribute just enough to get the match if at all. And they’ll think they are shrewd and brag about it on reddit. Very few contribute anything between the contribution % required to get the match and the max of $23,000k/yr or whatever. The latter is OCI aces, shrewd Losers, and olds trying to play catchup.

Also once poors figure out that 401k loans exist or that they can withdraw the money and pay a penalty, it’s over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48946567)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 8:56 AM
Author: Spruce lascivious pit potus

100% true and accurate post.

If only you knew how bad things really are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48946659)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 9:21 AM
Author: chartreuse 180 sneaky criminal kitchen

he does know obviously, as do I. IDK why people are pretending that there's some turnaround in the future of the US, it's utterly over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48946684)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 7:50 AM
Author: Passionate windowlicker

I have no idea if they are counting people with no 401k in the average or by '401k' they mean literal 401k's and not other investment accounts (my literal 401k is only like $130k now because I rolled all my previous 401k's into IRA's.) so who the fuck even knows. But if they are counting no 401k mo's then that will drop the average pretty hard since rich people still have contribution limits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48946588)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 7:54 AM
Author: glittery center

The numbers are usually e.g. from fidelity you idiot. It’s like Bank of America telling you the average account balance.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2#48946596)