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Being a lawn guy beats grilling, golfing, or snobby beer tasting.

Nothing beats a freshly mowed and fertilized lawn.
180 chocolate degenerate
  05/14/24
I fucking hate cutting my grass but my wife “likes&rdq...
Cracking Sinister Digit Ratio
  05/14/24
you are a mentally retarded jewish pedophile and you don't h...
charcoal beady-eyed kitty box office
  05/14/24
lots of overlap between lawn and grill guys.
concupiscible indian lodge
  05/14/24
🙋‍♂️
180 chocolate degenerate
  05/14/24
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deep house-broken point cuck
  05/14/24
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fishy reading party corner
  05/14/24
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magenta passionate spot double fault
  05/14/24
Golfing is the only real hobby on that list.
Khaki den
  05/14/24
It's the worst option in there by far.
180 chocolate degenerate
  05/14/24
golf is 180 you jewfuck
charcoal beady-eyed kitty box office
  05/14/24
I quit my country club this year and don't have a single reg...
180 chocolate degenerate
  05/14/24
dumb. prices are going up just like housing and everything ...
charcoal beady-eyed kitty box office
  05/14/24
lol mowing your lawn sucks shit
charcoal beady-eyed kitty box office
  05/14/24
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Khaki den
  05/14/24
I love my golf course lawn. Nothing beats a 1" high cu...
White fat ankles
  05/14/24
wait until you get into "advanced lawn guy" stuff ...
deep house-broken point cuck
  05/14/24
lol (((doodikoff))) failed solo, lost his house
White fat ankles
  05/14/24
I netted more than $500k after taxes from selling my house b...
deep house-broken point cuck
  05/14/24
Amazing, brother. You are an inspiration for all of us sinne...
hideous aromatic pisswyrm ticket booth
  05/14/24
The key to a well kept lawn is the edging, which is also the...
hideous aromatic pisswyrm ticket booth
  05/14/24
stfu fat fuck you don't know anything.
White fat ankles
  05/14/24
100%. An otherwise well groomed lawn looks sloppy and pr...
concupiscible indian lodge
  05/14/24
I don't edge. 🥲
180 chocolate degenerate
  05/14/24
Seems like backyard golf green that you seed, roll, cut your...
Bateful selfie
  05/14/24
the amount of time and effort it would take to maintain a le...
charcoal beady-eyed kitty box office
  05/14/24
That's why it's a POWERLAWNGOY move
Bateful selfie
  05/14/24
lawn work sucks. the key is to keep your lawn as simple and...
up-to-no-good nowag round eye
  05/14/24
I’ve been considering a natural, no-mow lawn. Certify ...
Khaki den
  05/14/24
fuck, i never heard of this. i'm going to plant some milkwee...
fishy reading party corner
  05/14/24
https://ibb.co/GHWwXVS if your property isn't a habitat for ...
Stirring son of senegal
  05/14/24
Not no-mow but I’m about to overseed with micro clover
ungodly theatre
  05/15/24
lawns are flame. i've been seeding clover in an attempt to s...
fishy reading party corner
  05/14/24
180
ungodly theatre
  05/15/24
Putting lawn care on the same playing field as grilling or g...
Galvanic jet-lagged public bath
  05/14/24
You don’t live in the south right? There is a lot of o...
deep house-broken point cuck
  05/14/24
Fair, yeah maybe it's regional. Here a guy into lawns compar...
Galvanic jet-lagged public bath
  05/14/24
What did lawnbulls do to you?
180 chocolate degenerate
  05/14/24
I live in a beautiful neighborhood that was built in the 20s...
180 chocolate degenerate
  05/14/24
Lawns and grilling are a common topic of conversation out on...
Lime bat shit crazy azn
  05/14/24
imagine trying to have a conversation with him about dogs or...
White fat ankles
  05/14/24
(gay trailer kike)
stimulating codepig
  05/14/24
agreed
Galvanic jet-lagged public bath
  05/14/24
yeah among the bitches you play with. grilling yes lawns obv...
Galvanic jet-lagged public bath
  05/14/24
I don't know what to tell you because I have no idea what it...
Lime bat shit crazy azn
  05/14/24
Go prune your rose bush faggot
Galvanic jet-lagged public bath
  05/14/24
The border is --> that way, pal. Don't let the door hit y...
Lime bat shit crazy azn
  05/14/24
I know where the border is, that's where I look to hire the ...
Galvanic jet-lagged public bath
  05/14/24
Lawns are lots of work and there’s a lot of bugs out t...
hideous aromatic pisswyrm ticket booth
  05/14/24
Lawnscaping is art. It requires enormous dedication and fore...
180 chocolate degenerate
  05/14/24
lawn guys are the biggest fags imaginable, they are just lam...
Arrogant Razzle Volcanic Crater Stage
  05/14/24
they're catty fags
Stirring son of senegal
  05/14/24
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Galvanic jet-lagged public bath
  05/14/24
Lmao. Get bent.
180 chocolate degenerate
  05/14/24
enjoy your short grass and destroying your local habitat
Arrogant Razzle Volcanic Crater Stage
  05/14/24
Enjoy your weeds with cockroaches in them.
180 chocolate degenerate
  05/14/24
you mean a meadow?
Arrogant Razzle Volcanic Crater Stage
  05/14/24
I am sure your .1 acre "meadow" in a concrete mega...
180 chocolate degenerate
  05/14/24
I live adjoining a 15 acre hay field, unfortunately my landl...
Arrogant Razzle Volcanic Crater Stage
  05/14/24
If it's a hay field it gets mowed too.
180 chocolate degenerate
  05/14/24
twice a year
Arrogant Razzle Volcanic Crater Stage
  05/14/24
Cricket anyone?
yapping death wish locus
  05/14/24
I'm just a Lawn Guy from Lawn Guy Land...
indigo slippery cruise ship old irish cottage
  05/14/24
When home alone, which is rare, I like to walk the lawn bare...
rose library
  05/14/24
I Walk The Lawn
indigo slippery cruise ship old irish cottage
  05/14/24
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180 chocolate degenerate
  05/14/24


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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:23 AM
Author: 180 chocolate degenerate

Nothing beats a freshly mowed and fertilized lawn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47659940)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:26 AM
Author: Cracking Sinister Digit Ratio

I fucking hate cutting my grass but my wife “likes” doing it so she refuses to let us pay for a lawn service since she says she’d just rather do it so I have to beat her to the mower and do it myself or I look like an asshole in front of the neighborhood for making my wife cut the grass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47659941)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:40 AM
Author: charcoal beady-eyed kitty box office

you are a mentally retarded jewish pedophile and you don't have a wife and probably don't have a lawn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47659967)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:27 AM
Author: concupiscible indian lodge

lots of overlap between lawn and grill guys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47659942)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:32 AM
Author: 180 chocolate degenerate

🙋‍♂️

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47659955)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:15 AM
Author: deep house-broken point cuck



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660048)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:15 AM
Author: fishy reading party corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660209)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:28 AM
Author: magenta passionate spot double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47659945)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:28 AM
Author: Khaki den

Golfing is the only real hobby on that list.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47659946)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:13 AM
Author: 180 chocolate degenerate

It's the worst option in there by far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660040)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:26 AM
Author: charcoal beady-eyed kitty box office

golf is 180 you jewfuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660086)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:38 AM
Author: 180 chocolate degenerate

I quit my country club this year and don't have a single regret.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660123)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 11:28 AM
Author: charcoal beady-eyed kitty box office

dumb. prices are going up just like housing and everything else and you'll pay through the dick in initiation if you ever want back in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660433)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:40 AM
Author: charcoal beady-eyed kitty box office

lol mowing your lawn sucks shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47659968)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:41 AM
Author: Khaki den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47659970)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:16 AM
Author: White fat ankles

I love my golf course lawn.

Nothing beats a 1" high cut deep green Kentucky Bluegrass lawn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660054)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:23 AM
Author: deep house-broken point cuck

wait until you get into "advanced lawn guy" stuff like striping attachments for your lawn mower - I have friends who do this and I want one when I get a house again

https://www.amazon.com/Toro-20601-Lawn-Striping-System/dp/B004ZKXYUO/ref=asc_df_B004ZKXYUO/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693308318791&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4640841603144006981&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010937&hvtargid=pla-350224723370&psc=1&mcid=9c51b0c8d2d73a09b5bbc7cb8a496959&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwl4yyBhAgEiwADSEjeIOciF3s2e4vs9Q_zzAdhQJ0yUPUZNi1sJkSNC91n6_8SYzumbgvTRoCSJMQAvD_BwE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660074)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:01 AM
Author: White fat ankles

lol (((doodikoff))) failed solo, lost his house

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660186)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:29 AM
Author: deep house-broken point cuck

I netted more than $500k after taxes from selling my house brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660250)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:35 AM
Author: hideous aromatic pisswyrm ticket booth

Amazing, brother. You are an inspiration for all of us sinners out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660269)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:25 AM
Author: hideous aromatic pisswyrm ticket booth

The key to a well kept lawn is the edging, which is also the worst part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660083)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:02 AM
Author: White fat ankles

stfu fat fuck you don't know anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660189)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:19 AM
Author: concupiscible indian lodge

100%.

An otherwise well groomed lawn looks sloppy and prole if the edging is not done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660220)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 11:09 AM
Author: 180 chocolate degenerate

I don't edge. 🥲

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660386)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:56 AM
Author: Bateful selfie

Seems like backyard golf green that you seed, roll, cut yourself is peak lawndaddy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660173)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:05 AM
Author: charcoal beady-eyed kitty box office

the amount of time and effort it would take to maintain a legit green probably would leave you with little time to actually practice putting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660197)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 1:02 PM
Author: Bateful selfie

That's why it's a POWERLAWNGOY move

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660716)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:09 AM
Author: up-to-no-good nowag round eye

lawn work sucks. the key is to keep your lawn as simple and easy to maintain as possible. that way if your wife wants to plant some tulips in some dirt or something it doesnt matter. the way some of these boomers designed these yards is absurd to me. its like having a swimming pool for a front yard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660199)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:50 AM
Author: Khaki den

I’ve been considering a natural, no-mow lawn. Certify that bitch as a Monarch Waypoint.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660315)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 11:10 AM
Author: fishy reading party corner

fuck, i never heard of this. i'm going to plant some milkweed and get certified like yny.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660390)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:32 PM
Author: Stirring son of senegal

https://ibb.co/GHWwXVS if your property isn't a habitat for 1k woodland critters you're not white

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47662037)



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Date: May 15th, 2024 1:05 AM
Author: ungodly theatre

Not no-mow but I’m about to overseed with micro clover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47662576)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:17 AM
Author: fishy reading party corner

lawns are flame. i've been seeding clover in an attempt to snuff out the grass. but i'm a native plants faggot. i agree with your underlying point that landscaping and gardening is 180. i just pulled my first radishes yesterday. my peas should start flowering soon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660216)



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Date: May 15th, 2024 1:05 AM
Author: ungodly theatre

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47662578)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:22 AM
Author: Galvanic jet-lagged public bath

Putting lawn care on the same playing field as grilling or golf is lol. The phenotypes are not matched.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660231)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:30 AM
Author: deep house-broken point cuck

You don’t live in the south right? There is a lot of overlap

I am friends with the son of a prominent us senator, fratty as fuck and makes a lot of money from his nepotism job, that obsesses over his lawn and does all of the work himself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660255)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 12:20 PM
Author: Galvanic jet-lagged public bath

Fair, yeah maybe it's regional. Here a guy into lawns comparing himself to a golfer is like a geek that plays Magic the Gathering comparing himself to a quarterback.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660571)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 1:11 PM
Author: 180 chocolate degenerate

What did lawnbulls do to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660760)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:36 AM
Author: 180 chocolate degenerate

I live in a beautiful neighborhood that was built in the 20s. I wouldn't expect most Californians to understand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660276)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:58 AM
Author: Lime bat shit crazy azn

Lawns and grilling are a common topic of conversation out on the course. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660351)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 11:27 AM
Author: White fat ankles

imagine trying to have a conversation with him about dogs or something. Might as well be discussing ancient chinese calligraphy with him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660431)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 11:28 AM
Author: stimulating codepig

(gay trailer kike)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660435)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 12:17 PM
Author: Galvanic jet-lagged public bath

agreed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660565)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 12:17 PM
Author: Galvanic jet-lagged public bath

yeah among the bitches you play with. grilling yes lawns obviously not lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660561)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:03 PM
Author: Lime bat shit crazy azn

I don't know what to tell you because I have no idea what it's like where you came from. Maybe you should go back. But here in America when one of your golfing buddies gets a new tractor or puts up an impressive Christmas light display it's a topic of conversation among the golfing dad set.

Additional easy ways for this to happen is someone mentioning they've been chipping in the backyard. Or somebody mentions they played at shady acres last week and it sucked because the greens had been aerated (oh, we're having our lawn aerated next week, etc.) Or whatever man. I think it's best if you just go back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661477)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: Galvanic jet-lagged public bath

Go prune your rose bush faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661510)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:23 PM
Author: Lime bat shit crazy azn

The border is --> that way, pal. Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661537)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 6:23 PM
Author: Galvanic jet-lagged public bath

I know where the border is, that's where I look to hire the Mexicans that maintain my lawn for me. How did this year's zucchini crop fit in your butthold fag?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661690)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 4:36 PM
Author: hideous aromatic pisswyrm ticket booth

Lawns are lots of work and there’s a lot of bugs out there.

Grilling is kind of meh, can be mastered in about 4-6 months of practice.

Golf is just expensive and stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661395)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:09 PM
Author: 180 chocolate degenerate

Lawnscaping is art. It requires enormous dedication and foresight to make a spectacular yard. If you are wondering where all the Michaelangelos went, they are on their zero turns right now.

Grilling/BBQ is art but anyone can become proficient quickly. It is like going to one of those wine and paint places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661491)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 4:53 PM
Author: Arrogant Razzle Volcanic Crater Stage

lawn guys are the biggest fags imaginable, they are just lame enough to find running a little machine to be entertaining as they have never run real machinery and the total amount of material waste that goes into some big perfect lawn is enormous, all while destroying natural habitat for native plants and species in the service of...nothing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661447)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:07 PM
Author: Stirring son of senegal

they're catty fags

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661486)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: Galvanic jet-lagged public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661512)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:23 PM
Author: 180 chocolate degenerate

Lmao. Get bent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661538)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:25 PM
Author: Arrogant Razzle Volcanic Crater Stage

enjoy your short grass and destroying your local habitat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661543)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:38 PM
Author: 180 chocolate degenerate

Enjoy your weeds with cockroaches in them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661562)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:41 PM
Author: Arrogant Razzle Volcanic Crater Stage

you mean a meadow?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661571)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 6:08 PM
Author: 180 chocolate degenerate

I am sure your .1 acre "meadow" in a concrete megalopolis is beautiful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661639)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 6:10 PM
Author: Arrogant Razzle Volcanic Crater Stage

I live adjoining a 15 acre hay field, unfortunately my landlord insists I mow a bunch of lawn too, but the field is much more aesthetically pleasing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661643)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 6:14 PM
Author: 180 chocolate degenerate

If it's a hay field it gets mowed too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661653)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 6:27 PM
Author: Arrogant Razzle Volcanic Crater Stage

twice a year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661701)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:44 PM
Author: yapping death wish locus

Cricket anyone?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661574)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:41 PM
Author: indigo slippery cruise ship old irish cottage

I'm just a Lawn Guy from Lawn Guy Land...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47662063)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:32 PM
Author: rose library

When home alone, which is rare, I like to walk the lawn barefoot, enjoying the dusk, sipping a scotch, enjoy a guilty secret cigarette. Simple pleasures of life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47662173)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:52 PM
Author: indigo slippery cruise ship old irish cottage

I Walk The Lawn

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