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(8) Oklahoma vs. (9) Alabama 🎉

Predictions?
shivering mildly autistic hissy fit rehab
  12/19/25
Oklahoma 21 - 10
Nighttime Red Sound Barrier
  12/19/25
Boomer Sooner 25-23
Iridescent comical cruise ship
  12/19/25
...
histrionic violent property
  12/19/25
why the fuck is there an sec conference game rematch on on t...
beady-eyed nubile genital piercing
  12/19/25
cope
startled buck-toothed set
  12/19/25
And Tulane vs. Ole Piss is a rematch too
beta swashbuckling giraffe
  12/19/25
...
beady-eyed nubile genital piercing
  12/19/25
...
Fiercely-loyal philosopher-king
  12/19/25
12 team playoff is so bad
Blue Infuriating Mad-dog Skullcap
  12/19/25
(Notrecuck)
startled buck-toothed set
  12/19/25
No they love it, since they thought it was going to be an au...
Bright locus clown
  12/19/25
Exactly The ultimate “Has been” in all of CF...
free-loading antidepressant drug skinny woman
  12/20/25
...
Bright locus clown
  12/19/25
OU needs to beat Bama so we can remove the automatic tiebre...
burgundy crusty pervert wrinkle
  12/19/25
...
beta swashbuckling giraffe
  12/19/25
In my 40+ years of hating OU I have come to recognize a patt...
offensive ape turdskin
  12/19/25
OU's D is legit. It's offense is wtf since the QB broke h...
burgundy crusty pervert wrinkle
  12/19/25
So yeah like I said….
offensive ape turdskin
  12/19/25
Alabama following up its -3 yards rushing in the Sec champio...
beady-eyed nubile genital piercing
  12/19/25
thanks. you made me spit out my drink
burgundy crusty pervert wrinkle
  12/19/25
This Alabama team has played absolutely dreadful for six fuc...
beady-eyed nubile genital piercing
  12/19/25
these alabama recruits need to head over to Oklahoma
burgundy crusty pervert wrinkle
  12/19/25
Oklahoma is going to get curb stomped next round.
beady-eyed nubile genital piercing
  12/19/25
Insane they weren't punished at all for getting blown out. T...
arrogant disgusting stag film
  12/19/25
Legitimately embarrassing to see grown men praising Bama for...
beady-eyed nubile genital piercing
  12/19/25
cr
arrogant disgusting stag film
  12/19/25
Called it
fragrant claret stage pozpig
  12/19/25
Bama is a total joke this year
arrogant disgusting stag film
  12/19/25
...
beta swashbuckling giraffe
  12/19/25
118 yards to 12 in 1Q.
burgundy crusty pervert wrinkle
  12/19/25
Bama is cooked
startled buck-toothed set
  12/19/25
Alabama seems like they suck, why are they in the playoffs a...
Balding Native
  12/19/25
because Notre Dame didn't want to join a conference
startled buck-toothed set
  12/19/25
committee doesn't want to drop teams out for losing in confe...
arrogant disgusting stag film
  12/19/25
Tbf they did drop smu last year, just not enough to take th...
Balding Native
  12/19/25
That's bullshit. The committee literally dropped OSU and...
Concupiscible bronze trust fund
  12/19/25
...
beta swashbuckling giraffe
  12/19/25
...
beady-eyed nubile genital piercing
  01/01/26
not sure if you were aware but it just means more™️
razzle electric furnace
  12/19/25
-3 rushing yards in the SEC championship showed their grit.
beady-eyed nubile genital piercing
  12/19/25
fuck dude. im trying to enjoy my drink
burgundy crusty pervert wrinkle
  12/19/25
Want ur poppi coming out ur nose
beady-eyed nubile genital piercing
  12/19/25
...
Balding Native
  12/19/25
...
self-absorbed feces foreskin
  12/19/25
Oklahoma looks like they could give Indiana a run for their ...
Cerebral demanding blood rage
  12/19/25
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odious sooty step-uncle's house
  12/19/25
Oklahoma's offense looks good only because they're playing T...
beady-eyed nubile genital piercing
  12/19/25
Like that. Jfc Mateer is shit
beady-eyed nubile genital piercing
  12/19/25
Mateer looks fantastic about 35% of the time.
Cerebral demanding blood rage
  12/19/25
??
free-loading antidepressant drug skinny woman
  12/19/25
Alabama making a comeback?
Mischievous regret codepig
  12/19/25
retarded OU should have went for it on 4th down. instead a b...
burgundy crusty pervert wrinkle
  12/19/25
Alabama sucks but I still love that Notre Dame got excluded....
Bright locus clown
  12/19/25
(Thomas Jefferson)
big peach mad cow disease
  12/19/25
LJL OU was up 17-0 10 minutes (of game time) ago. Now it's t...
Cerebral demanding blood rage
  12/19/25
lmao is the oklahoma qb brain damaged? that was an awful pic...
Balding Native
  12/19/25
he has a broken hand
burgundy crusty pervert wrinkle
  12/19/25
And a torn labia.
beady-eyed nubile genital piercing
  12/19/25
Was it one of the Alabama defenders who lined up to rush tha...
Cerebral demanding blood rage
  12/19/25
This is my problem with College Football. It's like, "W...
Concupiscible bronze trust fund
  12/19/25
...
self-absorbed feces foreskin
  12/19/25
i agree. everyone here swears cfb is better but when you wat...
Balding Native
  12/19/25
Why does OU's QB, who has been injured this season, keep run...
Cerebral demanding blood rage
  12/19/25
They only recruit defense.
burgundy crusty pervert wrinkle
  12/20/25
Venables looks and sounds like a former Marine officer getti...
Cerebral demanding blood rage
  12/19/25
Crazy game imo
aromatic tattoo church
  12/19/25
Looked up the weather because the crowd looks like its 20 be...
Concupiscible bronze trust fund
  12/19/25
lol Trumpkins stopped posting itt. why?
startled buck-toothed set
  12/19/25
Who will Alabama play in the next round?
aromatic tattoo church
  12/19/25
Notre Dame
startled buck-toothed set
  12/19/25
Why are they sharing the same coach
aromatic tattoo church
  12/19/25
where yall big 10 faggots at now?
startled buck-toothed set
  12/19/25
wow tcq
self-absorbed feces foreskin
  01/01/26


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Date: December 19th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: shivering mildly autistic hissy fit rehab

Predictions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523432)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 5:30 PM
Author: Nighttime Red Sound Barrier

Oklahoma 21 - 10

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523437)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 5:32 PM
Author: Iridescent comical cruise ship

Boomer Sooner

25-23

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523440)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 7:34 PM
Author: histrionic violent property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523691)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 7:56 PM
Author: beady-eyed nubile genital piercing

why the fuck is there an sec conference game rematch on on tonight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523734)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:03 PM
Author: startled buck-toothed set

cope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523742)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:28 PM
Author: beta swashbuckling giraffe

And Tulane vs. Ole Piss is a rematch too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523921)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:34 PM
Author: beady-eyed nubile genital piercing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523942)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:42 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523960)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:08 PM
Author: Blue Infuriating Mad-dog Skullcap

12 team playoff is so bad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523749)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: startled buck-toothed set

(Notrecuck)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523750)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:22 PM
Author: Bright locus clown

No they love it, since they thought it was going to be an autobid every year for them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523912)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 9:17 AM
Author: free-loading antidepressant drug skinny woman

Exactly

The ultimate “Has been” in all of CFB but somehow they never heard this fact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49524749)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:21 PM
Author: Bright locus clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523909)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:12 PM
Author: burgundy crusty pervert wrinkle

OU needs to beat Bama so we can remove the automatic tiebreaker Bama got with everyone due to its success under Saban.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523756)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:28 PM
Author: beta swashbuckling giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523924)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:17 PM
Author: offensive ape turdskin

In my 40+ years of hating OU I have come to recognize a pattern in when they get overconfident and reality smacks them down and reminds them that they are landthieving methhead scum. It’s funny because when they are actually good it’s like they’re humbled and don’t talk smack, but when they’re vulnerable they try to cover it up with bluster. I’d call them a 2:1 dog tonight. I do think whoever wins this is pretty likely to make the championship game because Indiana and Tech are both frauds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523765)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:22 PM
Author: burgundy crusty pervert wrinkle

OU's D is legit.

It's offense is wtf since the QB broke his hand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523777)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:47 PM
Author: offensive ape turdskin

So yeah like I said….

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49524087)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:41 PM
Author: beady-eyed nubile genital piercing

Alabama following up its -3 yards rushing in the Sec championship (not punished by committee at all) with -7 in Q1.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523827)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:43 PM
Author: burgundy crusty pervert wrinkle

thanks. you made me spit out my drink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523833)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:44 PM
Author: beady-eyed nubile genital piercing

This Alabama team has played absolutely dreadful for six fucking weeks and everyone has just been ignoring it because they think Nick Saban is in charge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523835)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:48 PM
Author: burgundy crusty pervert wrinkle

these alabama recruits need to head over to Oklahoma

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523845)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:56 PM
Author: beady-eyed nubile genital piercing

Oklahoma is going to get curb stomped next round.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523864)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: arrogant disgusting stag film

Insane they weren't punished at all for getting blown out. Texas or ND are head-and-shoulders better than this team

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523851)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:53 PM
Author: beady-eyed nubile genital piercing

Legitimately embarrassing to see grown men praising Bama for struggling past a shit War Damn Eagle team.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523855)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:58 PM
Author: arrogant disgusting stag film

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523870)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: fragrant claret stage pozpig

Called it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523841)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: arrogant disgusting stag film

Bama is a total joke this year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523849)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:27 PM
Author: beta swashbuckling giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523919)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:54 PM
Author: burgundy crusty pervert wrinkle

118 yards to 12 in 1Q.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523859)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:56 PM
Author: startled buck-toothed set

Bama is cooked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523867)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:00 PM
Author: Balding Native

Alabama seems like they suck, why are they in the playoffs again?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523872)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:02 PM
Author: startled buck-toothed set

because Notre Dame didn't want to join a conference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523875)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:02 PM
Author: arrogant disgusting stag film

committee doesn't want to drop teams out for losing in conference championships, that's how SMU made it in last year iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523876)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Balding Native

Tbf they did drop smu last year, just not enough to take them out of the playoff iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523906)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:23 PM
Author: Concupiscible bronze trust fund

That's bullshit.

The committee literally dropped OSU and BYU this year.

The committee does what it wants to get the teams it wants in. They didnt drop Alabama because they didn't want to face the wrath of the SEC and Alabama.

The committee dropped BYU because it needed the ACC to get a bid, so then they said since BYU dropped, they had to look at Miami and Notre Dame head to head, so then they flipped those schools (even though a week before they litearlly said ND was ranked higher - and the teams did not play...)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523914)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: beta swashbuckling giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523926)



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Date: January 1st, 2026 7:03 PM
Author: beady-eyed nubile genital piercing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49555042)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:05 PM
Author: razzle electric furnace

not sure if you were aware but it just means more™️

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523880)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:07 PM
Author: beady-eyed nubile genital piercing

-3 rushing yards in the SEC championship showed their grit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523882)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:08 PM
Author: burgundy crusty pervert wrinkle

fuck dude. im trying to enjoy my drink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523883)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: beady-eyed nubile genital piercing

Want ur poppi coming out ur nose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523889)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Balding Native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523887)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: self-absorbed feces foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523896)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:08 PM
Author: Cerebral demanding blood rage

Oklahoma looks like they could give Indiana a run for their money in the next round. Too bad for them they drew the 1 seed.

Alabama looks like a team that had negative rushing yards in the SEC championship game and that doesn't deserve to be playing tonight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523885)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:10 PM
Author: odious sooty step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523891)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:10 PM
Author: beady-eyed nubile genital piercing

Oklahoma's offense looks good only because they're playing Temu Kennesaw State right now. It's a bad offense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523892)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:34 PM
Author: beady-eyed nubile genital piercing

Like that. Jfc Mateer is shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523939)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:35 PM
Author: Cerebral demanding blood rage

Mateer looks fantastic about 35% of the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523945)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:44 PM
Author: free-loading antidepressant drug skinny woman

??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523966)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:16 PM
Author: Mischievous regret codepig

Alabama making a comeback?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523900)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:23 PM
Author: burgundy crusty pervert wrinkle

retarded OU should have went for it on 4th down. instead a blocked punt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523915)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Bright locus clown

Alabama sucks but I still love that Notre Dame got excluded.

Join a damn conference, domecucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523916)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:28 PM
Author: big peach mad cow disease

(Thomas Jefferson)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523922)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:34 PM
Author: Cerebral demanding blood rage

LJL OU was up 17-0 10 minutes (of game time) ago. Now it's tied.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523940)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:35 PM
Author: Balding Native

lmao is the oklahoma qb brain damaged? that was an awful pick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523943)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:36 PM
Author: burgundy crusty pervert wrinkle

he has a broken hand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523949)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:38 PM
Author: beady-eyed nubile genital piercing

And a torn labia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523955)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:37 PM
Author: Cerebral demanding blood rage

Was it one of the Alabama defenders who lined up to rush than dropped back who picked him? Either way, Alabama showing blitz then dropping back confused him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523950)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:38 PM
Author: Concupiscible bronze trust fund

This is my problem with College Football. It's like, "What if we had a game like the NFL, except every 10 plays an 18 year old does something retarded"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523951)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:01 PM
Author: self-absorbed feces foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523997)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:03 PM
Author: Balding Native

i agree. everyone here swears cfb is better but when you watch it, shit like this happens and you realize how much shittier the gameplay is compared to the nfl, even putting aside that 90% of the games are ridiculous mismatches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49524001)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:38 PM
Author: Cerebral demanding blood rage

Why does OU's QB, who has been injured this season, keep running up the middle for 1 yard?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523953)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: burgundy crusty pervert wrinkle

They only recruit defense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49524828)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:45 PM
Author: Cerebral demanding blood rage

Venables looks and sounds like a former Marine officer getting his guys back together to form a secret paramilitary force.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523967)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:17 PM
Author: aromatic tattoo church

Crazy game imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49524021)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:53 PM
Author: Concupiscible bronze trust fund

Looked up the weather because the crowd looks like its 20 below.

It's 51 degrees there...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49524096)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:15 PM
Author: startled buck-toothed set

lol Trumpkins stopped posting itt.

why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49524141)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: aromatic tattoo church

Who will Alabama play in the next round?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49524148)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:26 PM
Author: startled buck-toothed set

Notre Dame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49524162)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:30 PM
Author: aromatic tattoo church

Why are they sharing the same coach

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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:42 PM
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