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http://chronicle.com/article/From-Graduate-School-to/131795/...
fighting school
  05/08/12
I find it horrifying that she thinks her work is worth anyth...
diverse khaki useless brakes
  05/08/12
"Highly educated" made me chuckle. I wonder how...
Passionate menage
  05/08/12
180
titillating sandwich
  05/08/12
lol http://uci.academia.edu/MelissaBruningaMatteau/About ...
180 Cream People Who Are Hurt
  05/08/12
ty
embarrassed to the bone pozpig dilemma
  05/08/12
Totally irresponsible broad, "studying" dat shit w...
Pungent rehab
  06/20/12
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boyish lodge main people
  05/08/12
Estimated yearly salary $8k.
Flirting glassy national security agency
  05/08/12
As part of transitioning to a sensible model of higher educa...
diverse khaki useless brakes
  05/08/12
She is being paid in medieval dollars.
aphrodisiac meetinghouse
  05/08/12
LOL, just LOL at shitprofs teaching shitsubjects at shitcoll...
Racy lay trust fund
  05/08/12
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diverse khaki useless brakes
  05/08/12
what kind of prole thinks medieval history is a shit subject...
Vivacious Orange Locus
  05/08/12
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sticky arousing home
  05/08/12
This site has become infested with Santorum-esque conservata...
Elite fantasy-prone karate trailer park
  05/08/12
tmfcq
Emerald Beady-eyed Sweet Tailpipe Lettuce
  06/20/12
No one is paying loans to go to Yavapai College.
learning disabled coiffed house
  06/20/12
she can probably take accounting classes for free/cheap at h...
fragrant hyperventilating property headpube
  05/08/12
tcr
ungodly floppy ceo
  05/08/12
Not surprising that someone who's spent all her life studyin...
Laughsome gaped volcanic crater
  05/08/12
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Emerald Beady-eyed Sweet Tailpipe Lettuce
  05/08/12
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diverse khaki useless brakes
  05/08/12
why can't it ever be a science/math STEM PhD in one of these...
Emerald Beady-eyed Sweet Tailpipe Lettuce
  05/08/12
there are people who did humanities phd at top schools and t...
galvanic chapel
  05/08/12
by the way, if she could find a teaching job at a community ...
galvanic chapel
  05/08/12
$60k with health insurance to teach chill students at CC is ...
salmon mental disorder
  05/08/12
yes, I mean full-time job at CC. one of my relatives is t...
galvanic chapel
  05/08/12
keep talking shit about public ivies breh
aqua marvelous point nowag
  05/08/12
You mean a tenure-track position? Is anyone, anywhere even ...
bonkers striped hyena
  05/08/12
why don't people in shit higher ed gun for high school teach...
ungodly floppy ceo
  05/08/12
i know of a phd chemist who did this. kind of sad though.
Vivacious Orange Locus
  05/08/12
why?
ungodly floppy ceo
  05/08/12
Me too. Guy ended up going off the deep end and cooking meth...
diverse khaki useless brakes
  05/08/12
i think that was a tv show.
Vivacious Orange Locus
  05/08/12
I know a phd in bio who did that, too.
Elite fantasy-prone karate trailer park
  05/08/12
"We socialize people into accepting the coin of reputat...
Glittery jet tanning salon cumskin
  05/08/12
PRESTIGE BIGLAW (meanwhile a plumber in Oklahoma City ...
Irradiated Piazza Rigor
  05/08/12
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diverse khaki useless brakes
  05/08/12
lol neurotypicals *plays with my 401k*
ungodly floppy ceo
  05/08/12
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Emerald Beady-eyed Sweet Tailpipe Lettuce
  06/20/12
good question. and they would have the summers off to do res...
fragrant hyperventilating property headpube
  05/08/12
Striver dreams die hard bro. People go into academia to be R...
Dark fear-inspiring base
  06/20/12
People ITT act like there are no adjunct science or math pro...
Mind-boggling Pisswyrm Bbw
  05/08/12
Good thing they are cutting costs. I assume tuition will co...
180 Cream People Who Are Hurt
  05/08/12
science/math profs have much better options, so it's easy fo...
Clear flatulent orchestra pit internal respiration
  05/08/12
I hate to say it, but society should not punish people so se...
grizzly narrow-minded toaster
  05/08/12
shoulda copped dat stem
Emerald Beady-eyed Sweet Tailpipe Lettuce
  05/08/12


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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:43 AM
Author: fighting school

http://chronicle.com/article/From-Graduate-School-to/131795/

"I am not a welfare queen," says Melissa Bruninga-Matteau.

That's how she feels compelled to start a conversation about how she, a white woman with a Ph.D. in medieval history and an adjunct professor, came to rely on food stamps and Medicaid. Ms. Bruninga-Matteau, a 43-year-old single mother who teaches two humanities courses at Yavapai College, in Prescott, Ariz., says the stereotype of the people receiving such aid does not reflect reality. Recipients include growing numbers of people like her, the highly educated, whose advanced degrees have not insulated them from financial hardship.

"I find it horrifying that someone who stands in front of college classes and teaches is on welfare," she says.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643269)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:47 AM
Author: diverse khaki useless brakes

I find it horrifying that she thinks her work is worth anything at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643293)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:14 AM
Author: Passionate menage

"Highly educated" made me chuckle.

I wonder how long one might slum it on loan money + $10-20k salary for the opportunity to scratch some weird medieval fetish in front of a roomful of bored undergrads.

And I get a kick out of "welfare queen" coming from someone who probably participates in Renaissance festivals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643466)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:18 AM
Author: titillating sandwich

180

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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:14 PM
Author: 180 Cream People Who Are Hurt

lol

http://uci.academia.edu/MelissaBruningaMatteau/About

https://plus.google.com/112599551828027848185/about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643821)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:38 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone pozpig dilemma

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645293)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 3:24 PM
Author: Pungent rehab

Totally irresponsible broad, "studying" dat shit with kids depending on her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20922144)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:44 AM
Author: boyish lodge main people



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:45 AM
Author: Flirting glassy national security agency

Estimated yearly salary $8k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643285)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:46 AM
Author: diverse khaki useless brakes

As part of transitioning to a sensible model of higher education, probably 60-70% of professors need to basically lose their jobs and retool themselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643288)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:47 AM
Author: aphrodisiac meetinghouse

She is being paid in medieval dollars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643294)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:25 AM
Author: Racy lay trust fund

LOL, just LOL at shitprofs teaching shitsubjects at shitcolleges complaining about their shitpay, when said colleges already charge tuition well in excess of the (non-existant) value they provide, and would promptly go out of business if not for federally subsidized loans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643527)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:11 PM
Author: diverse khaki useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643801)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 2:54 PM
Author: Vivacious Orange Locus

what kind of prole thinks medieval history is a shit subject?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644720)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:31 PM
Author: sticky arousing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644934)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:47 PM
Author: Elite fantasy-prone karate trailer park

This site has become infested with Santorum-esque conservatards with absolutely no culture and with prole aspirations of pharmacy jobs.

Disclosure: I have one of those STEM degrees from an elite college that XOXO jerks off so hard to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645368)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 1:51 PM
Author: Emerald Beady-eyed Sweet Tailpipe Lettuce

tmfcq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20921713)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 2:50 PM
Author: learning disabled coiffed house

No one is paying loans to go to Yavapai College.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20921970)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:27 AM
Author: fragrant hyperventilating property headpube

she can probably take accounting classes for free/cheap at her school, which would let her sit for the CPA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643536)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:02 PM
Author: ungodly floppy ceo

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644771)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:38 AM
Author: Laughsome gaped volcanic crater

Not surprising that someone who's spent all her life studying feudalism can't grasp how salaries are determined in capitalist systems.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643581)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:39 AM
Author: Emerald Beady-eyed Sweet Tailpipe Lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643590)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:11 PM
Author: diverse khaki useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643800)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:39 AM
Author: Emerald Beady-eyed Sweet Tailpipe Lettuce

why can't it ever be a science/math STEM PhD in one of these stories. they always have to ridicule the professor of "medieval studies."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643589)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:50 AM
Author: galvanic chapel

there are people who did humanities phd at top schools and then did cpa or jd to become 'real' proefssionals, while teaching a class or two for pure interest. however, these are genuinely bright and versatile people.

there are people with mediocre intellect who can't switch fields. they are not that bright in their own fields anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643661)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:18 PM
Author: galvanic chapel

by the way, if she could find a teaching job at a community college, she'll have a cool, credited life. does not have to be a professor at a research university, for which she is not that eligible anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643852)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:21 PM
Author: salmon mental disorder

$60k with health insurance to teach chill students at CC is living the good life. $8k as a part-time teacher for online classes is not a career.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643875)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:23 PM
Author: galvanic chapel

yes, I mean full-time job at CC.

one of my relatives is teaching at CC even with a phd and he says a professor at a Research university earns more or less ... but with far more prestige.

actually, community college jobs would not be THAT difficult to find if her credentials have been better.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643895)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:23 PM
Author: aqua marvelous point nowag

keep talking shit about public ivies breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644899)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:04 PM
Author: bonkers striped hyena

You mean a tenure-track position? Is anyone, anywhere even hiring for that type of thing anymore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644777)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:04 PM
Author: ungodly floppy ceo

why don't people in shit higher ed gun for high school teaching jobs? those pay much better with better benefits and it's not like they couldn't teach at a local shit community college at night.

some high schools would dig getting a phd on staff and would probably eventually let them teach AP classes or other specialized stuff for the AP kids. i had a teacher like that in HS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644784)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:06 PM
Author: Vivacious Orange Locus

i know of a phd chemist who did this. kind of sad though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644791)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:09 PM
Author: ungodly floppy ceo

why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644814)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:11 PM
Author: diverse khaki useless brakes

Me too. Guy ended up going off the deep end and cooking meth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644824)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:14 PM
Author: Vivacious Orange Locus

i think that was a tv show.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644843)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:48 PM
Author: Elite fantasy-prone karate trailer park

I know a phd in bio who did that, too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645373)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:34 PM
Author: Glittery jet tanning salon cumskin

"We socialize people into accepting the coin of reputation as status capital. Some people are so deeply socialized into the regime of payment by way of status that they are essentially trapped in it for life."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644943)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:36 PM
Author: Irradiated Piazza Rigor

PRESTIGE

BIGLAW

(meanwhile a plumber in Oklahoma City outearns u)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644957)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:11 PM
Author: diverse khaki useless brakes



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:19 PM
Author: ungodly floppy ceo

lol neurotypicals

*plays with my 401k*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645186)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 2:07 PM
Author: Emerald Beady-eyed Sweet Tailpipe Lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20921791)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:17 PM
Author: fragrant hyperventilating property headpube

good question. and they would have the summers off to do research/publish/maybe teach an adjunct CC class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645174)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 2:01 PM
Author: Dark fear-inspiring base

Striver dreams die hard bro. People go into academia to be Richard Feynman or Harold Bloom, not to be supervised by some guy with a 3.3 in Education from Directional State U.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20921759)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:16 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Pisswyrm Bbw

People ITT act like there are no adjunct science or math profs.

I had a math prof who was basically begging students to write him good reviews at the end of the year because needed that extension to keep his 20K income going for his two classes he taught.

I guess its becoming less of a problem though because universities are just dumping these guys for TA's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644851)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:19 PM
Author: 180 Cream People Who Are Hurt

Good thing they are cutting costs. I assume tuition will come down shortly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644865)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:28 PM
Author: Clear flatulent orchestra pit internal respiration

science/math profs have much better options, so it's easy for them to leave their shit ttteaching jobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644921)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:49 PM
Author: grizzly narrow-minded toaster

I hate to say it, but society should not punish people so severely for taking risks. This person could have ended up teaching in her field at a highly rated university, but didn't make it. So her only option is to teach as an adjunct at a cc for a few thousand? That's pretty severe. Obviously, once you realize the game, you have to retool yourself into a skillset that works for the economy. But I applaud her for going for the $80K/yr tenured job, even if she failed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645377)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:51 PM
Author: Emerald Beady-eyed Sweet Tailpipe Lettuce

shoulda copped dat stem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645382)