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Xo help me out. Wtff did I do wrong? Tinder date fail inside
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 10:38 PM Author: mustard sticky set We meet up near her place after exchanging some sexual messages
She's cubbier than her pics, I'm aspier than mine, ok fine it's fair
We get something to eat and convo is okay even though we are fairly different
Ask if she wants to go back to her place, she says yes and pops on a movie
I'm thinking everything is good to go, putting my arm around her, notice she isn't reciprocating as much
Like 30 minutes into the movie I turn her around to kiss, she declines. She's like on her phone, think she was on tinder again lmao
Soon after says I should go back home, so I leave promptly. Face was beet red, half hour commute back. Like why the fuck would a girl invite you up to her place and be totally cold and not even want to make out?
Explain this shit to me. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 10:44 PM Author: doobsian fragrant legend ticket booth Describe the seating arrangements while you were eating. I 95% can tell you where you went wrong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471307) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 10:48 PM Author: mustard sticky set We were at a 4 sided table, sitting one space apart, not across (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471352) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:09 PM Author: doobsian fragrant legend ticket booth Ok, you were already done there before you got to her place.
Your choice of venue did you in. If you want a first date hookup, you need to go somewhere where touching is natural and you can move to a few different locations. If you're standing somewhere in a bar it's no big deal to touch a chick on the arm, later when you go somewhere to sit, you sit close and keep moving it along physically. When you get home to watch a movie, it's all going to flow a lot more naturally.
Everything about your post says that nothing was done to get the chick comfortable with you physically (and no, an awkward first cuddle when starting a movie isn't building comfort, it probably made her less comfortable). This can be overcome if a chick really likes you or really wants to get fucked, but is usually fatal.
If you had done everything right, it would have been natural to kiss her within a couple minutes of sitting on the couch.
Protip: if the girl is actually paying attention to the act of watching the movie instead of you, you probably fucked up. Also, in a situation like that where you created an awkward vibe by not escalating properly, dramatically going in for the kiss was the worst thing you could have done. The only way to rehab yourself in that situation is to escalate touching.
Don't beat yourself up over it. It took me a while to comprehend how important venue/seating are in an online date
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:24 PM Author: mustard sticky set yeah i get what you're saying and it makes sense, i admit my game isn't that good. just peeved that she would invite me up to her place and then reject me. i have had plenty of rejections before getting to their place. after i get there, it's usually smooth sailing. always got the feeling, because of that, that things were outside my control. i think this is the first time i could feel where what you said would have made a definite difference. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471772) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:32 PM Author: doobsian fragrant legend ticket booth The most logical explanation is that she was DTF and then changed her mind not because of anything wrong with you, but rather just because sitting on a couch with a chick for the first time can be awkward if you didn't do things right before you got there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471867) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:49 PM Author: fighting khaki resort TWIST: she was never DTF. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31472005) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:29 PM Author: mustard sticky set can you elaborate on what you mean by "rehabilitate" the situation by touching? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471833) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:31 PM Author: Erotic range idea he suggested grab her, man! just grab her! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471853) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:32 PM Author: mustard sticky set my arm was around her, she was leaning against me but withholding her hand
wtf was i supposed to do to escalate this? |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:34 PM Author: doobsian fragrant legend ticket booth Use your hand to slowly stroke or rub different parts of her body, in ascending order of intimacy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471891) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:36 PM Author: mustard sticky set i was rubbing her arm, her neck, etc. felt stuck at that point, nothing else i could do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471905) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:38 PM Author: doobsian fragrant legend ticket booth What about thighs and tits? You realize you don't have to kiss her before you touch those, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471925) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:44 PM Author: mustard sticky set perhaps, i'll keep that in mind for next time, but seems odd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471973) |
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Date: September 26th, 2016 7:25 AM Author: Offensive indecent useless brakes masturbator You herb her by her throat and then violently begin rubbing her tits and cunt. On top of the clothes so it's not awkward.
Fucking noob. |
Date: September 22nd, 2016 10:41 PM Author: glittery tripping death wish public bath men want physical validation, women want cocktease validation. she was gaming you -- she won you lost. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471266) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 10:48 PM Author: mustard sticky set If she had rejected me after the restaurant, I might have understood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471367) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:57 PM Author: Flushed Racy Ape The fact that you went inside her apartment was an admission you wanted to fuck her and that was the validation she was craving. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31472084) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:58 PM Author: mustard sticky set the fuck kind of reasoning is that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31472098) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 10:42 PM Author: lascivious maize area Should have dominated her the minute you walked in the place (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471281) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:34 PM Author: underhanded arousing doctorate just grab her ass, hard, within the first minute of meeting her at the bar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471892) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 10:45 PM Author: aphrodisiac sable garrison what kind of lipstick were you wearing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471322) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 10:48 PM Author: Filthy lodge Wait, what was his name? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471363) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 10:49 PM Author: know-it-all coiffed son of senegal Waiting 30 minutes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471379) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 10:55 PM Author: mustard sticky set I wouldn't have if she had been receptive early on. Avoided me grabbing her hand even from the moment the movie came on. Insane, what was her purpose?
Yeah I do now regret like not grabbing her immediately and trying to make out as soon as we stepped foot inside her door or whatever, but that's hindsight speaking, not always the cr move |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 10:58 PM Author: Abusive spectacular theater stage sex offender sometimes you gotta take the pussy
are you deceptively chaddish in your pics? |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:02 PM Author: mustard sticky set Not really (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471555) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:09 PM Author: Abusive spectacular theater stage sex offender describe the vibe and your physical escalation techniques (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471618) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:31 PM Author: mustard sticky set no physical escalation
i think i got lazy and thought this was a done deal. god damn, i keep forgetting how much this shit matters to women |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:35 PM Author: Abusive spectacular theater stage sex offender get pumped and release the beast. women will change their mind in a heartbeat
internalize this: there is no relaxing when it comes to women |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:05 PM Author: know-it-all coiffed son of senegal Sounds like she just snapped at some point before you could close. But yeah, once you're out of the elevator start getting at it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471591) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 10:51 PM Author: Spruce Trust Fund Did you put your arm around her walking back to her place? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471393) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 10:56 PM Author: mustard sticky set No it was like a 2 minute walk and arm around shoulder can be awkward when forced (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471457) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:02 PM Author: underhanded arousing doctorate health insurance, rip off, lying (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471558) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:03 PM Author: diverse brethren fanboi Women are barely sentient pigeon brained irrational shitheads. Don't waste energy tryjng to figure out why one acted a particular way (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471570) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:07 PM Author: Adventurous patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471608) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:34 PM Author: olive menage THIS. I can write a book with all the weird as fuck Tinder chick stories I have. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471885) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:33 PM Author: olive menage Welcome to Tinder. The chicks on there can be super weird. They dont know themselves what they want. If they were really socially well adjusted they probably wouldnt be on Tinder. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471877) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:40 PM Author: diverse brethren fanboi Cr they change their mind twice a minute. Timing is everything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31471945) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:43 PM Author: fighting khaki resort Subject: NYUUG here to break down your MASSIVE FAIL "We meet up near her place after exchanging some sexual messages"
FUCKUP #1.
ALWAYS make the her come to YOUR neighborhood. Girls who are not willing to come to your neighborhood != DTF.
"We get something to eat and convo is okay even though we are fairly different"
FUCKUP #2.
Should've met for tea/coffee in YOUR building. Or the nearest coffee shop. Dinner first is high risk and little reward. Post-fuck dinner/lunch? = OK
"Ask if she wants to go back to her place, she says yes and pops on a movie"
FUCKUP #3.
You take her upstairs to YOUR place. If you don't have a coffeshop in your building, you walk her to back to your building after agreeing to move to somewhere else.
"I'm thinking everything is good to go, putting my arm around her, notice she isn't reciprocating as much. Like 30 minutes into the movie I turn her around to kiss, she declines. She's like on her phone, think she was on tinder again lmao."
FUCKUP #4.
Always get physical BEFORE you bring her back to your place. While chatting over tea, you should've held her hands and more if you could manage it.
"Soon after says I should go back home, so I leave promptly. Face was beet red, half hour commute back. Like why the fuck would a girl invite you up to her place and be totally cold and not even want to make out?"
See FUCKUP #1, FUCKUP #2, FUCKUP #3.
ADDENDUM -
FUCKUP #5
You didn't have a second/third/fourth date lined up for afterwards.
HTFH. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:50 PM Author: diverse brethren fanboi You forgot the biggest FUCKUP: not paying her for sex (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31472019) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:51 PM Author: fighting khaki resort some guys just dont get it. you can only teach those who are willing to learn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31472027) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:52 PM Author: mustard sticky set dude your advice is worthless
"get her to travel 30 minutes to your place and go up for sex immediately after coffee" is lunacy |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:53 PM Author: fighting khaki resort I've had girls visit me from fucking different PROVINCES, e.g. Incheon/Gyeongi, in order to see me.
Stop acting like it is impossible for a girl to come to your neighborhood. All she has to do is get on the subway or take a bus. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:54 PM Author: mustard sticky set i don't live in your world
try to put yourself in my shoes
why would an american girl on tinder travel 30 minutes to see a guy she's never met when she has 50 guys messaging her at the same time, many of whom live closer. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:56 PM Author: fighting khaki resort nationality doesn't matter, dewd. if a girl is willing to travel to YOU, she is DTF. period.
doesnt matter if she is american, korean, or fucking Bantu. girls want to be fucked by alphas and they will travel for said alpha. period. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:53 PM Author: Vengeful location I think the point is that if she travels that far she is already more likely ready to go - for a number of reasons (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31472053) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:55 PM Author: fighting khaki resort He is quite stubborn and if he refuses to heed my advice, he will continue to get zero online lays. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31472067) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:55 PM Author: mustard sticky set obviously, but it's such a ridiculous filtering mechanism in the US that i might as well ask her to show up at my front door naked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31472068) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2016 11:59 PM Author: fighting khaki resort there is literally nothing ridiculous about making a girl come to your neighborhood. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31472107) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2016 12:01 AM Author: mustard sticky set look i know you're messaging tens of thousands of girls, but i would get zero dates this way
i don't know what planet you live on, but in the US online dating is a girl's market |
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Date: September 23rd, 2016 12:04 AM Author: fighting khaki resort no. you've just never tried to tell a girl to come to your neighborhood.
for a more detailed analysis:
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3345436&forum_id=2
also, every fucking country is a girl's online dating market. do you think i succeed with every girl i message? hell no. you just have to filter out the non-dtf girls.
HTFH. |
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Date: September 23rd, 2016 12:07 AM Author: mustard sticky set worthless (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31472176) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2016 12:08 AM Author: fighting khaki resort continue to travel instead of making her come to YOU. you will just keep on wasting time and money.
i mean, it doesnt matter to me because its not my money or time. i just want to see my xoxo brothers smash as much pussy as possible. but you are not going about it the right way at all. |
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Date: September 23rd, 2016 12:11 AM Author: mustard sticky set you have no ability to empathize with others.
let's say i get 50 matches a month. maybe 10 of them are even willing to talk to me. let's say i ask all 10 of them to travel 10-30 minutes to see me. all 10 will be busy.
let's say i travel 10-30 minutes to see them. i meet up 5 times, get rejected 4 times, and succeed once.
that's not exactly on par with your numbers where you're messaging thousands of girls and you are located in the center of the city or whatever, but it's the best i can reasonably do.
you pushing your shitty advice wherever it doesn't apply, just shows how narcissistic you are. |
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Date: September 23rd, 2016 12:16 AM Author: fighting khaki resort First, of all, stop depending on ONE app. There are literally dozens of apps out there. You need to be on as many as possible in order to maximize your returns.
You need to be texting more girls.
Now, if the problem is that you simply cannot get enough girls to come to YOU, then you are just not attractive enough.
That's the cold nigga truth. You need to work on improving yourself in order to become more attractive to women.
Secondly, even if you are not located downtown, you definitely have a coffee shop near your building. Just go to the NEAREST one.
This is not rocket science, my friend. |
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Date: September 23rd, 2016 12:22 AM Author: mustard sticky set fuck, you're hopeless. sure i'm on several apps, but they are much smaller than tinder, and contribute insignificantly number-wise.
not all of us can move to a different country and improve our looks by 2+ points, fuck. |
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Date: September 23rd, 2016 12:27 AM Author: fighting khaki resort height? weight? what do you look like? do you work out? income? prestige?
there are a lot of variables here and clearly you just arent alpha enough to get girls. guys who do well IRL do well online. guys who dont do well IRL dont do well online.
just the fact that you think moving to a new country is a prequisite to improving your attractiveness is beta as fuck thinking. you dont have to move anywhere to improve yourself. |
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Date: September 26th, 2016 4:30 AM Author: fighting khaki resort ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31491992) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2016 12:35 AM Author: know-it-all coiffed son of senegal this is generally good advice, but it's much more applicable to asian girls. WGs need more than to scare them into a place where they're too frightened to scream no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31472324) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2016 12:44 AM Author: fighting khaki resort i had a 18 year old american girl fly herself from AMERICA a couple weeks ago to fuck me.
nationality does not matter at all. being alpha is what matters. |
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Date: September 23rd, 2016 1:05 AM Author: Vermilion stage *paying is what matters (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31472433) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2016 2:17 AM Author: know-it-all coiffed son of senegal no. no, you didn't.
you have two plausible routes to getting laid. they're all hookers, and your parents pay them to keep you happy. or koreans have a very different idea of rape than we have in the US |
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Date: September 23rd, 2016 2:18 AM Author: fighting khaki resort jelly NOWWG crying, losing hoap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31472683) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2016 2:21 AM Author: know-it-all coiffed son of senegal i fight for my asian brothers. but you just happen to be a schizophrenic faggot. so, while i empathize with your clinical mental illness, you're still an obnoxious blight on this bort. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31472691) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2016 12:09 AM Author: Topaz deer antler codepig The girl sounds pretty lame/dumb - i guess i would have tried to kiss her earlier on; like get back to the apartment, provide a little tour, then kiss her (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31472188) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2016 2:19 AM Author: emerald multi-colored keepsake machete elastic band were you azn? That is the kiss of death (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3360726&forum_id=2#31472685) |