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BarBri or PMBR?
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Date: February 8th, 2010 6:31 PM Author: Sickened Stage Ratface Is there a noticeable difference? My firm allows direct bill for PMBR but not BarBri. If neither is that much better, I'll just do PMBR and not wait for the reimbursement crap.
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Date: February 8th, 2010 6:40 PM Author: pea-brained charismatic pocket flask area barbri is better pmbr is just help with the MBE |
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Date: February 8th, 2010 6:41 PM Author: Sickened Stage Ratface ty. So the PMBR state review portion is useless then? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14057452) |
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Date: February 8th, 2010 6:42 PM Author: pea-brained charismatic pocket flask area yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14057470) |
Date: February 8th, 2010 6:34 PM Author: purple theatre arent both pretty much just practice Qs out of a book? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14057355) |
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Date: February 11th, 2010 12:39 PM Author: Aqua Twinkling Uncleanness what firm are you working for? We would be happy to contact them and set up dirct billing for barbri. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14087032) |
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Date: February 11th, 2010 12:41 PM Author: Provocative piazza is this serious? you have reps that troll xoxo? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14087049) |
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Date: February 11th, 2010 12:46 PM Author: Scarlet Resort Barbri is a full, month-long plus course that includes lectures on all the exam subjects, graded practice essays, and a practice MBE test under test conditions. It is comprehensive.
PMBR traditionally is a practice MBE test under test conditions, followed by 2 days of videos explaining the answers and test strategies.
Kaplan (which now owns PMBR) has expanded into the comprehensive test prep like Barbri. However, it is brand new and only offered in certain states. I'm not sure I'd rely on something new.
Most people going to big firms do BOTH Barbri and the PMBR MBE test. They are scheduled so that you can do both. Firms usually pay for both. The PMBR is somewhat redundant, but they have the expertise on the MBE and it is good to get a different perspective and a final review right before the exam. |
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Date: February 11th, 2010 12:52 PM Author: Hyperventilating set cuckold most people don't do both. what the fuck are you talking about (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14087160) |
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Date: February 11th, 2010 12:58 PM Author: Impressive overrated windowlicker weed whacker He said most people going to large firms. Perhaps I have a strange group of friends, but most people I know subscribed to the theory that "if I'm not paying for it, I might as well sign up." That said, most people (myself included) don't actually go to every class. It's pretty common to take the PMBR exam but skip the lectures. It's also common to skip out on Barbri lectures. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14087231) |
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Date: February 11th, 2010 1:02 PM Author: Hyperventilating set cuckold everyone i know is going to a large firm. not a single one of us plans to do both. none of my friends who graduated last year did both.
you are wrong. |
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Date: February 11th, 2010 3:13 PM Author: Dashing sticky public bath sex offender that was how I and all of my friends felt - everyone I know who was going to a large firm that had direct billing signed up for both PMBR and Barbri. Not saying that they ended up doing both, but their firm ended up paying for both. People who had firms that just gave a "bar stipend" for bar prep, living expenses, etc seemed to only do barbri. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14088470) |
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Date: February 11th, 2010 3:17 PM Author: Cowardly faggot firefighter i'm doing both and so are my FRIENDS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14088504) |
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Date: February 11th, 2010 12:56 PM Author: purple theatre lol i bought books used and studied on my own (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14087211) |
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Date: February 11th, 2010 12:58 PM Author: Impressive overrated windowlicker weed whacker were you going to a big firm that paid for both barbri and PMBR? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14087233) |
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Date: February 11th, 2010 6:57 PM Author: heady hospital if he didn't, then he still paid more than we did (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14090822) |
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Date: February 11th, 2010 1:16 PM Author: floppy irate hominid My firm would pay for both, but I only signed up for BarBri thinking that I would just take the two or three weeks afterwards and study on my own. Should I do PMBR during those last couple of weeks? |
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Date: February 11th, 2010 2:01 PM Author: Scarlet Resort I think it is worth it to at least do the PMBR mock MBE under exam conditions, although probably not worth it to go to the review sessions unless you really suck it up. The mock MBE shortly before the exam is a pretty good way to get yourself ready for how exhausting the exam can be and it can also be a reality check on your test prep so far. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14087766) |
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Date: February 11th, 2010 2:30 PM Author: floppy irate hominid ty. Is the mock MBE exam taken on-site, or do you just take it using their books at home? |
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Date: February 11th, 2010 2:35 PM Author: Scarlet Resort no, you have to go to one of their sites. They have them all over the country, since the MBE is the same everywhere. They usually try to rent out the convention halls and other facilities where the actual tests take place, so you can get familiar with the environment you will be in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14088108) |
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Date: February 11th, 2010 2:37 PM Author: floppy irate hominid ty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14088130) |
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Date: February 11th, 2010 3:16 PM Author: Dashing sticky public bath sex offender the mock MBE psyched me out. I got a 98 on it and so for the last 2 weeks before the exam (and even up to the day we got results) I was sure sure sure I was going to fail. Ended up with around a 150 on the MBE. I did not waste my time with the PMBR lectures since you get the corrections when you take the exam - if your firm is paying for PMBR it is worth it to do the practice exam but nothing else. I knew some people who signed up for the 6-day PMBR but these were the same people who signed up for all the barbri extra sessions - overkill and not the best use of your time. If your firm's not paying see if you can just get the PMBR practice exam off craigslist or ebay or something. |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 10:49 AM Author: floppy irate hominid Is the "mock MBE" feature of PMBR that everyone is referring to the "MBE Final Review Course" (full MBE exam plus 2 days of review, $549), or the Combination Course or Foundation Course (which involve a 50-question "mini-exam" and 6 days of review)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14096446) |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 11:42 AM Author: Scarlet Resort it is the 3-day "MBE Final Review" course. I don't think the 6 day course is worth it, especially not if you are taking a comprehensive bar prep course. Plus, the main advantage is the full mock exam. A 50 question mini-exam wouldn't give you that experience.
Many people sign up fr the 3-day course, go to the first day to take the mock exam, and then skip the 2 days of review. The review is basically just going over the answers, and they give you written explanations so you can review yourself more efficiently (as long as you are self-motivated enough to do that). |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 11:44 AM Author: floppy irate hominid ty again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14096730) |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 1:13 PM Author: Brass church mood do you know how much the 3-day "MBE Final Review" course is? their website seems to be down (i also have a shitty internet connection)
edit: okay their website is up but i don't see the 3 day course anywhere |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 4:39 PM Author: Scarlet Resort $549. $50 discount if you are an ABA member or NBLSA member, either of which cost less than that to join. They are also offering a $50 early bird discount by March 11. If you are really self motivated and can get your hands on some good practice tests with explanations, it might be worth it to do your own mock exam rather than pay even the discounted $449 (assuming you are paying your own way). You do, however, get a pretty good multistate outline book included and a shit-ton of practice questions.
http://www.kaptest.com/Bar-Exam/Bar-Review-Courses/Multistate-Bar-Exam/MBE-final-review-course.html |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 10:41 PM Author: Olive vigorous immigrant how are the pmbr flashcards? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14102885) |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 11:11 PM Author: Scarlet Resort I dunno, I didn't even know they had them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14103172) |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 10:37 PM Author: vivacious brilliant personal credit line just finished the 1st day mock test of PMBR's 3-day workshop. Holy shit. I got a 121/200 on BarBri's simulation two weeks ago, and a 100/200 on the PMBR version today. Substantially more difficult and more nuanced. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14102843) |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 10:39 PM Author: fluffy aphrodisiac site I thought BarBri's was harder than PMBRs, though I did similar. Ended up with a 162 on the real thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14102857) |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 10:40 PM Author: vivacious brilliant personal credit line When did you do it? PMBR said they retooled recently.
There is no way BarBri could be considered harder. |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 10:50 PM Author: fluffy aphrodisiac site I did it 5 years ago (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14102982) |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 10:38 PM Author: fluffy aphrodisiac site if you can afford it or firm will pay for it, do both. it's worth it. i.e., do barbri and take the 3 extra mbes offered by pmbr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14102853) |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 10:49 PM Author: Dark stead foreskin neither. just get the barbri books and take 2 weeks to review them. ywia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14102956) |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 10:49 PM Author: vivacious brilliant personal credit line I tried this and it was an EPIC FAIL on the pmbr practice test (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14102962) |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 10:50 PM Author: Dark stead foreskin i did it and passed easily. u r dum. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14102976) |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 10:51 PM Author: vivacious brilliant personal credit line This is undisputed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14102991) |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 10:50 PM Author: Soul-stirring transparent chapel prole but im poor and i cant afford this shit :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14102975) |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 11:04 PM Author: Olive vigorous immigrant me too; who can afford all this crap ITE. Sorry I dont have "a firm" spending 5 grand on bar prep for me. Its gonna have to be total self study. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14103117) |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 11:08 PM Author: Provocative piazza just buy the books used online. I would guess the other materials add about 10-15% on top of the value of the books, at most. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14103148) |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 11:08 PM Author: Olive vigorous immigrant this is what i am doing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14103151) |
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Date: February 12th, 2010 11:13 PM Author: Scarlet Resort if you can be self-motivated and get your hands on some good materials from last year, you should be fine. Just be sure to pay attention to the test strategy tips they have, and only study what they say to study and not more or less. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14103184) |
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Date: February 13th, 2010 12:29 AM Author: purple theatre describe good materials (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14103764) |
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Date: February 13th, 2010 10:40 AM Author: Scarlet Resort like the complete materials from last year's barbri and pmbr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216659&forum_id=2#14105722) |