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2L Grades and perm. offers
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:20 PM Author: cream deer antler azn Subject: does anyone actually know someone who didn't get an offer Because of 2L grades? Mine didn't go down a ton - It's not like I rocked straigt B's or anything - but they certainly did go down a bit. Summer clerkship is at a firm that supposedly DOES care about 2L grades, especially if you believe the XOXO minions.
Any anicdotes about someone who didn't get a permanent offer specifically because of their grades? If so, how much of a drop in GPA/percentile caused it. TYIA. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:22 PM Author: peach trip property philosopher-king i hear gibson dunn cares mucho about the grades (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894885) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:24 PM Author: Appetizing Brindle Theater Stage stfu (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894894) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:25 PM Author: dark antidepressant drug alpha how did your 2L grades go down so much. isn't there an easier curve than 1L (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894899) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:29 PM Author: Appetizing Brindle Theater Stage rofl, class rank is all that matters
plus if you do very well 1L your GPA barely gets easier to maintain |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:29 PM Author: cream deer antler azn they didn't go down a ton, but assume a firm that cares as much (at least reportedly) about grades as GDC. Any actual stories of autoding grade fail in this scenario? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894927) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 2:26 PM Author: aphrodisiac potus the easier curve thing is pretty exaggerated. most schools just eliminate mandatory B- or whatever and leave the curve otherwise the same (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895684) |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 7:05 PM Author: avocado high-end newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15989314) |
Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:28 PM Author: Fighting arrogant ratface most firms don't give a shit - they don't even request transcripts oftentimes. there was a big thread on this recently - search "2L grades". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894919) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:28 PM Author: zombie-like odious sanctuary son of senegal Yeah, my firm never asked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894921) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:30 PM Author: cream deer antler azn according to some former clerks, this firm does ask. how much it matters is what I'm trying to figure out. I'm also attempting to see if the GPA fail is really a myth, or if it only matters if your GPA/rank goes down substantially. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894935) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:32 PM Author: zombie-like odious sanctuary son of senegal All I know is the work you do will say more about...the work you are able to do than grades. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894949) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:32 PM Author: peach trip property philosopher-king which firm is this? i might be able to give you specific info. type itin then edit out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894952) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:34 PM Author: cream deer antler azn don't really want to risk it. any specific examples will suffice, I'll draw my own conclusions. The problem is I hear a lot of "oh, they really care about grades", but haven't been able to track down any specific examples of clerks getting now offered b/c of grades. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894969) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:35 PM Author: peach trip property philosopher-king yeah, i know specific examples of many firms. that's why im asking.
im here to help you mang |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:36 PM Author: cream deer antler azn thanks FRIEND - smallest GPA difference b/n 1l and 2l you know of that resulted in no-offer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894993) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:37 PM Author: peach trip property philosopher-king not gonna say unless i know the firm. this is useless otherwise. vault rage at least? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895004) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:43 PM Author: cream deer antler azn v50 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895056) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:50 PM Author: peach trip property philosopher-king whoa ok. Unless it's munger or irell, i dont know. i was thinking V10 or V15 or something.. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895109) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:58 PM Author: vigorous step-uncle's house fat ankles what about for those two (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895144) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:59 PM Author: peach trip property philosopher-king if variance is more than .2, ur fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895161) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 1:04 PM Author: vigorous step-uncle's house fat ankles overall or per year? i thought both these firms have over 90% offer rates. are ALL the no-offers due to grades? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895186) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 1:07 PM Author: peach trip property philosopher-king overall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895204) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 1:08 PM Author: vigorous step-uncle's house fat ankles thanks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895213) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:34 PM Author: violet principal's office jewess how do you know what your grades are? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894963) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:35 PM Author: cream deer antler azn know 1st semester, assuming the worst this semester (although, honestly, I think I'll do better than last semester) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894984) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:35 PM Author: Wonderful Fortuitous Meteor enjoy your gibson dunn no offer! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894985) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:42 PM Author: dark antidepressant drug alpha what kind of drop are we talking about here? 3.7 1L to 3.5 2L? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895052) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:45 PM Author: cream deer antler azn not even that much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895072) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:48 PM Author: Appetizing Brindle Theater Stage ROFL! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895089) |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:28 PM Author: milky jet-lagged gas station clown wtf you're fine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990433) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:42 PM Author: Fighting arrogant ratface this thread is such a failure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895055) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:44 PM Author: cream deer antler azn glad you approve. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895066) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:46 PM Author: milky jet-lagged gas station clown all the outing shit really killed on-topic discussion. i saw a pumo the other day who wouldn't give his school range. a pumo! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895081) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:59 PM Author: sapphire heady church My grades went WAY down. We'll see what happens. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895160) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2010 1:08 PM Author: Appetizing Brindle Theater Stage you will be in shitlaw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895209) |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 8:50 PM Author: sapphire heady church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990073) |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 7:23 PM Author: avocado high-end newt Choosing between a few firms for next summer, including GDC. How much of a drop in grades is tolerated? Assume right around top 10% as 1L. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15989456) |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 7:28 PM Author: Transparent Racy Brunch Cuck I tend to think this GDC phenomenon is greatly exaggerated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15989498) |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 7:28 PM Author: dark antidepressant drug alpha as long as you get top 1/3 2L year you should be fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15989500) |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 7:35 PM Author: filthy violent corn cake just have to show that you haven't totally given up. I know plenty who dropped top 10% 1L and graduated top 25% and nothing happened to their offers.
now if you drop from top 10 to median...well there may be hell to pay. |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 7:57 PM Author: avocado high-end newt As in they were only top 35% or so for their 2L and 3L years? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15989739) |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:07 PM Author: Bronze glittery twinkling uncleanness What if you are already below median and a firm makes you a SA offer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990216) |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:11 PM Author: Transparent Racy Brunch Cuck um, what? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990258) |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:12 PM Author: Bronze glittery twinkling uncleanness A firm makes an SA offer to you. You are below median. Take said offer. Remain below median 2L year. No offered? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990274) |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:13 PM Author: Transparent Racy Brunch Cuck Most firms don't care about 2L grades. If they hired you as an SA, and they traditionally make near-100% offers, chances are that grades do not factor into the decision unless you really fuck up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990289) |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:15 PM Author: Bronze glittery twinkling uncleanness k, ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990315) |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:16 PM Author: Transparent Racy Brunch Cuck That applies to most BigLaw firms, at least- I can's speak for any other employers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990328) |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:22 PM Author: Bronze glittery twinkling uncleanness I am talking about BIGLAW. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990394) |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:47 PM Author: garnet dashing home juggernaut I heard of one firm (v100) that told person he/she had to bring up their grades 3L year or offer would be rescinded. true story. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990616) |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 10:17 PM Author: Bronze glittery twinkling uncleanness Aprox rank? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990945) |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 10:19 PM Author: Transparent Racy Brunch Cuck I'm guessing that person had some seriously shitty grades (Cs or worse) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990967) |