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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:05 AM Author: Chestnut flatulent deer antler locus Subject: Yale law secret society I'm a 2L at YLS and I'm completely fed up with something that I think very few people know about (or at least very few people talk about). Despite the treadmill promises, it becomes obvious after a short time here that there are more selections to be made: who gets in with Guido or Fiss, who knows the most people (helps when journal elections happen), who is going to run for office eventually, etc. This is endlessly frustrating, not to mention counter to everything this place claims to be about. But that's not the real problem. The real problem is that there is a secret society in the law school. It's easy to dismiss it as juvenile and elitist, but the problem is that it significantly affects one's time here. If you are in it, it makes it A LOT easier to get positions, recs, etc. This is particularly true of getting recommendations from profs who went to YLS (which is pretty endemic). What's strange is that some people know about it the second they get on campus, while others seem to go through the entire three years completely oblivious to its existence. It is probably less important (or at least less institutionally secure) than Skull and Bones, but it's the same sort of deal and it's ridiculous. Aren't people here adult enough to know how stupid this sort of thing is? Is it really worth it for some marginal increase in your job prospects? I'm pretty sure it's a well-kept secret, though I would say it's quite easy to know who's in it if you ask around. Of course it tends to be the good looking students who are going to go into politics. This leads me to my final point. From what I understand you basically have to be liberal to get in. Despite its reputation, Yale actually has a pretty significant conservative population, and it's so preposterous that this group perpetuates the concentration of influence in the hands of the school's liberal wing. Sorry for that rant. Do any other YLS students here know what I'm talking about? Also, does anyone know what it's actually called? I've heard it's something 'staple', but that name seems too idiotic to be true. I hope I get selected so i can destroy it from within. |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:07 AM Author: Aquamarine comical nursing home pozpig Watch out for shooter McGavin and his slow-ass Jeep. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304089) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:08 AM Author: frum main people private investor This reads like the diatribe of a whiny liberal douche who thought YLS was somehow disconnected from the outside world.
EDIT: http://www.strike-the-root.com/4/herman/herman27.html |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:12 AM Author: Chestnut flatulent deer antler locus Did you read the post? I'm not liberal at all. Plus, the whole point is that YLS is disconnected from the outside world. Secret societies are an elitist perversion that I would struggle to believe are particularly common in the "outside world." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304124) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:10 AM Author: insane stirring set tell me what you know about this secret society (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304114) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:17 AM Author: Chestnut flatulent deer antler locus I basically said most of what I know. No one admits to being in it, though I have one friend who always comes dangerously close by jokingly saying things like "ummm, I have a meeting to go to" as if he's kidding, but then he really does disappear for a few hours. I don't know why it's not as famous as skull and bones, perhaps because the law school is much smaller and therefore the membership is probably much, much smaller than skull and bones (perhaps 10 people per class). It's hard to explain to someone who doesn't go here, but it's painfully obvious who is in it. People who were not friends at all 1L year all of a sudden start hanging out and acting like they're best friends. This is true even in cases where they expressed outright dislike for each other. I'll admit that I'm hypersensitive to this because a 3L explained it to me, so I've been on the lookout for it. It really is true though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304144) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:18 AM Author: insane stirring set Are there any other Yale students around to confirm this isn't utter flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304153) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:21 AM Author: amethyst address queen of the night this sounds really cool to me, but not like yale at all. also, think about the history of yale's strength as an undergraduate institution relative to its undergrad... the strength of secret societies lie in their alumni connection. it would be interesting if it were true, but i'm not going to be the douche to ask around (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304168) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:23 AM Author: Hyperactive vivacious pit volcanic crater I think this is correct. YLS is mostly about creating academics, who aren't tapped into a bizarre network. If this were for HLS, then I'd say it's more accurate, since HLS is more likely to feed directly into the political network and aspirations. Of course, maybe I just don't know enough about politics and YLS grads. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304179) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:10 AM Author: Boyish Hospital Second Wave (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304115) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 12:25 PM Author: navy doobsian old irish cottage 175. I love TV movies from the early 90s. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4305885) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:15 AM Author: Aquamarine comical nursing home pozpig http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0192614/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304136) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:17 AM Author: Hyperactive vivacious pit volcanic crater It's called the Federalist Society. They're usually pretty open about admitting members. You should ask. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304143) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:20 AM Author: frum main people private investor Beat me to it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304166) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 6:01 AM Author: disturbing cyan locale "Despite the treadmill promises, it becomes obvious after a short time here that there are more selections to be made: who gets in with Guido or Fiss, who knows the most people (helps when journal elections happen), who is going to run for office eventually, etc."
They keep promissing you a treadmill? there, there, shut up boy - you'll get your tredmill soon enough |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 10:55 AM Author: Wine Fluffy Yarmulke Alpha YLS 1L here...I've certainly heard rumors to this effect, but I've never heard someone discuss this subject openly in the short time I've been here. Do you really think it makes such a big difference in getting recommendation letters? I was under the impression that the society, if it exists, was waning in terms of influence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4305304) |
Date: November 16th, 2005 2:11 AM Author: Ocher charismatic dilemma electric furnace I am currently signed to star in the movie version. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304121) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:18 AM Author: Iridescent razzle-dazzle church filthpig hawt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304152) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:12 AM Author: amethyst address queen of the night buahahaha, this sounds like a pretty funny plan to see who and how many people at yls actually use this board. i'd be curious to see if people buy into this and are gossiping tomorrow about a secret society. that would be hillarious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304125) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:20 AM Author: Chestnut flatulent deer antler locus That would be pointless. I basically know which ones of my friends go on this board. I wouldn't find out, and more importantly I wouldn't care who else uses it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304162) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:23 AM Author: amethyst address queen of the night why does this frustrate you so? being at yls is like being in a secret society by itself... just with the avg. member probably with much lower net worth than other societies (everyone from yls wants to save the world) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304176) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:38 AM Author: impressive fanboi institution Never underestimate the power of the Freemasons, the liberals or the Jews. They control the media, you know. From what you posted it seems clear the Illuminati is also involved in this, probably to make sure Jeb Bush gets elected when he runs for president. I think your best strategy is to rent "The Skulls III," starring Bring It On's Clare Kramer as Taylor Brooks, a new student who aims to become the first female member of the powerful organization. Met with resistance from many of The Skulls, Taylor shows that she's willing to resort to any means necessary to gain acceptance, even doing ass-to-ass for money while her boyfriend gets his arm cut off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304277) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:39 AM Author: insane stirring set lmao
your movie plot posts are hilarious |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:41 AM Author: impressive fanboi institution It's sort of becoming my new schtick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304289) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:41 AM Author: cocky school cafeteria feces holy shit, you know the skulls 3, damn... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304293) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:46 AM Author: impressive fanboi institution ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304306) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:47 AM Author: Blathering floppy persian area No, no, no . . . it's a well known fact, Sunny Jim, that there's a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, known as The Pentaveret, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as The Meadows. Who is in this Pentaveret? Half of YLS, the Queen, the Vatican, the Gettys, the Rothschilds, *and* Colonel Sanders before he went tits up. Oh, I hated the Colonel with is wee *beady* eye! And that smug look on his face, "Oh, you're gonna buy my chicken! Ohhhhh!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304315) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:50 AM Author: impressive fanboi institution Leave Mr. Sanders out of this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304328) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 11:02 AM Author: Federal Place Of Business Hilarious, easily the best scene in a mediocre comedy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4305343) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 11:15 AM Author: Blathering floppy persian area I think it loses something without the ridiculous Scottish accent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4305409) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 11:21 AM Author: diverse indecent house what movie was that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4305460) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 11:40 AM Author: Blathering floppy persian area So I Married an Axe Murderer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4305593) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:48 AM Author: Irradiated Outnumbered Roommate Haha. Nicely done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304318) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 10:59 AM Author: Awkward mischievous sanctuary international law enforcement agency Finally, a post from 174 demonstrating why he's worthy of Renada's respect. Bravo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4305326) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 11:57 AM Author: Buff ratface Hahaha, great post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4305689) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:51 AM Author: Wonderful Turquoise Twinkling Uncleanness You want us to pity uglies? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4304338) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 11:24 AM Author: vermilion station They are the ones who conspire to keep the DH spicy chicken prices high. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4305489) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 11:39 AM Author: ruddy slimy stage yeah, i'm a 3l at yale. i used to date a girl who'd fuck by one of its members, a guy who'd talk too much after sex. i only know a little bit, whatever she told me, but i am interested if anyone else knows anything
it's called the "augean stable." it's kind of meant to rip on the law school, since it's not as elite as it could be and has become kinda quirky with academics and stuff. the "stable" is the law school that needs to be cleaned out, and this society picks the "best" to be the 3l's pick 12 2l's (get it, 12 labors), and "purge" the stable. it's pretty much just an excuse to drink in a back room and touch a bone that they say is a horse femur. i don't really know anything else about it. i guess it makes sense more that it's a "connection" group since it tries to be an elitist thing. |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 11:43 AM Author: vermilion station I hear they meet in that weird auxiliary handicapped bathroom in the second floor men's room. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4305616) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 11:54 AM Author: navy doobsian old irish cottage Maybe that's why it's always friggin' locked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4305670) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 11:53 AM Author: impressive fanboi institution "it's pretty much just an excuse to drink in a back room and touch a bone that they say is a horse femur."
I for one am always looking for an excuse to touch a horse femur. |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 11:56 AM Author: ruddy slimy stage whatever, you know what i mean, it's just a stupid ritual thing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4305679) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 12:08 PM Author: vermilion station TK's pwn3s Archie Moore's, for the record. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4305752) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 12:19 PM Author: navy doobsian old irish cottage You're insane. Those wings are inedible, you can't find a table unless you get there an hour before decent games, the waitstaff is slow and rude, and they only have shit beer on tap.
Delaney's and Archie Moores are far superior. |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 12:28 PM Author: lascivious massive tank TV's at every table plus multiple wing flavors plus the entire place isnt filled with yale people = pwn4g3. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4305904) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 12:44 PM Author: vermilion station As usual, your analysis is dead on. Also, they have golden tee. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4305967) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 1:37 PM Author: navy doobsian old irish cottage Delaney's has golden tee, and, as a bonus, it isn't located next to an overflowing toilet in the men's room.
(However, I will admit that the TV in the men's room is a clear bonus for TKs) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 11:42 AM Author: exciting jet-lagged dopamine This wouldn't surprise me at all, given how YLS is. YLS students would love to have a secret society, because it's one more brass ring to reach for, and if one doesn't exist already this post may inspire some tool to start one. But frankly I'd be really shocked if it mattered a wit for relationships with YLS-grad faculty. Sure, I wouldn't put it past Guido and Fiss to stoop to this, but there are a number of influential professors (a lot of them women, gay, minority, or just decent human beings) whom I really can't see being involved in anything like that. So the OP should stop worrying if he/she is for real. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4305608) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 12:31 PM Author: know-it-all vengeful telephone stead This reminds me of that Simpsons episode... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4305916) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 12:38 PM Author: titillating plum stag film goyim I'm a 3L and I've never heard of this thing. If it exists, it's not influential. And I *would* put it past both Guido and Fiss to stoop to recommending someone simply because of membership in it. I know at least one conservative student who got a clerkship rec from one of those two, so it's certainly not necessary to be in it to get a rec from them, or anyone else I imagine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4305943) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 12:46 PM Author: khaki masturbator meetinghouse it's sad how ignorant you are...... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4305973) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 1:42 PM Author: cracking narrow-minded menage Subject: Interesting Stuff I'm a 1L at Yale (longtime lurker) and this kinda jives with something I heard a few months ago from a 3L. We were walking by Scroll and Key and I mentioned how it's surprising that Yale has so many secret societies for undergrads but none in the law school. He sneered at that comment, and when I asked him what was bothering him he said "just because you don't see a building doesn't mean there isn't one." He then suggested that there was a clique of individuals, all of them liberal, who get all the top awards and positions in the law school. I was and still am skeptical (especially considering how it doesn't seem to fit the egalitarian, anti-elitism posture of YLS), but it is curious how so many accolades at the law school seem to be distributed over a very small set of persons (as was evidence in the e-mail sent out announcing the previous year's awards) and all of them seem to track to the left. |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:12 PM Author: carmine crackhouse Then start your own secret society
Problem solved. |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 4:31 PM Author: Chestnut flatulent deer antler locus Ok, my initial message came off as simply some gripe I have with the nature of the school. It's much more specific than that. There is a secret society in the law school, it is common knowledge within the school, and I'm simply wondering how powerful it actually is. Hopefully they don't have the power to derail alito's nomination. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4307679) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 4:40 PM Author: ruddy slimy stage i doubt it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4307769) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 4:53 PM Author: vermilion station If by derail, you mean bitch about it endlessly on the wall and do nothing constructive, the answer is yes. They have great power. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4307926) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 4:43 PM Author: Trip orchid hell "endemic" just sounded forced. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=299627&forum_id=2#4307809) |