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Your jdjive nightmare come to life: Date: April 13th...
Comical theatre volcanic crater
  04/14/07
Why do lawyers tolerate $35k salaries?
Kink-friendly nibblets
  04/14/07
ha! You think they have a choice?
federal dragon
  04/14/07
I just posted a bunch of choices.
Coral filthy hall
  04/14/07
those 45-50k a year jobs dont look any better when you have ...
federal dragon
  04/14/07
$35k is less than $45k, isn't it? You do believe in math, r...
Coral filthy hall
  04/14/07
10k basically makes no difference when you live in NYC and h...
federal dragon
  04/14/07
$45k is 22.5% more after taxes. Assuming $700/month loan ...
Coral filthy hall
  04/14/07
700 a month seems rather low (I would think its more like 1k...
federal dragon
  04/14/07
Going from $600/month to $1000/month for housing is a big ju...
Coral filthy hall
  04/14/07
not in NYC where both numbers are basically laughable.
federal dragon
  04/14/07
You're being deliberately fucktarded. I'm done.
Coral filthy hall
  04/14/07
I lol'd at this exchange, ty
drab market really tough guy
  04/14/07
what can you rent in NYC for 600? A basement in queens maybe...
federal dragon
  04/14/07
WHEN DO YOU THINK THEY'LL FINISH DRAWING UP THE COMPLAINT AG...
up-to-no-good mother property
  04/14/07
http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/tch/311498143.html Exte...
Coral filthy hall
  04/14/07
http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/tch/310772016.html Stoc...
Coral filthy hall
  04/14/07
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/ofc/310079414.html EXEC...
Coral filthy hall
  04/14/07
http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/ret/310471164.html Ente...
Coral filthy hall
  04/14/07
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bus/310649631.html IHOP...
Coral filthy hall
  04/14/07
Wait a minute, there's an IHOP in Morningside?
Bateful half-breed
  04/14/07
IHOP > law
Coral filthy hall
  04/14/07
I had no idea there were any in NYC. Good to know.
federal dragon
  04/14/07
Well, apparently there's one near Penn (which I can't recall...
Bateful half-breed
  04/14/07
This would have been a good position for him; he made a pret...
boyish crystalline senate affirmative action
  04/14/07
oh jesus
Violent 180 Sneaky Criminal Rehab
  04/14/07
Underappreciated post.
mildly autistic supple locus sandwich
  04/14/07
180
razzle lodge
  04/14/07
could this in fact, be the DEFINITIVE XOXO post???
white trailer park
  04/15/07
Well played.
Kink-friendly nibblets
  04/15/07
...
territorial station
  04/15/07
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/lgl/309015054.html Lega...
Coral filthy hall
  04/14/07
http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/etc/307857846.html Dog ...
Coral filthy hall
  04/14/07
WOW this is the nightmare scenario for every LS grad.... ...
Irradiated blathering casino party of the first part
  04/14/07
plop plop outted?
spruce spectacular hell
  04/14/07
178.
autistic partner
  04/14/07
Cardozo isn't even a true TTT either. The thought of incurr...
charcoal heaven marketing idea
  04/14/07
Well, it's possible this guy had some issues. I mean, he di...
Bateful half-breed
  04/14/07
...
concupiscible misunderstood ceo twinkling uncleanness
  04/14/07
What I mean is the reason he could only get a job paying $35...
Bateful half-breed
  04/14/07
"you realize the chances he posted here are about 99.98...
Exciting Orchid Chapel
  04/14/07
His student debt dies with him, right? I wonder if he was...
Cerise Multi-colored Theater Stage Jew
  04/14/07
Suicide is for pussies. He should have concocted a devious ...
Coral filthy hall
  04/14/07
Might as well die in a hail of police gunfire after robbing ...
Awkward Mind-boggling Regret Hairy Legs
  04/14/07
That's cool, too.
Coral filthy hall
  04/14/07
but then you wouldnt pity him. Now the state bar and ABA wil...
federal dragon
  04/14/07
He should have faked his own death and then gotten a new ide...
cheese-eating coffee pot resort
  04/14/07
What are the best ways to fake your own death?
Kink-friendly nibblets
  04/15/07
if he had a co-signor the co-signor is stuck I think.
federal dragon
  04/14/07
Death Discharge Cancellation because of the borrower's deat...
Coral filthy hall
  04/14/07
what about private loans?
federal dragon
  04/14/07
If it's not government backed, you have to read the contract...
Coral filthy hall
  04/14/07
Most lenders do not discharge loan balances for any reason. ...
Coral filthy hall
  04/14/07
That explains why he jumped out of a 69th floor window. He ...
boyish crystalline senate affirmative action
  04/14/07
This is my immediate future.
Floppy Offensive Point
  04/14/07
even retards can find better jobs than this in government. G...
federal dragon
  04/14/07
but I don't want to live outside of NYC. That's the only pl...
Floppy Offensive Point
  04/14/07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2kocOsqzFU
federal dragon
  04/14/07
rats, overcrowded shitbox apartments, lawyers literally kill...
jet racy main people set
  04/14/07
Bed bugs, too. Seriously, what shit hole has bed bugs?
Kink-friendly nibblets
  04/15/07
The correct terminology is SHITLAW.
light jap ratface
  04/14/07
You mean SPLATLAW.
Exciting Orchid Chapel
  04/15/07
...
light jap ratface
  04/15/07


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Date: April 14th, 2007 12:17 AM
Author: Comical theatre volcanic crater

Your jdjive nightmare come to life:

Date: April 13th, 2007 9:55 PM

Author: Hazelrah (http://xoxoreader.blogspot.com/)

"Police identified the man as Moshe Kanovsky, a lawyer in his 30s."

I looked him up in Martindale and all it says is "private practice lawyer."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612723&forum_id=2#7927819)

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Date: April 13th, 2007 10:08 PM

Author: Kara Thrace (Adah)

He passed the NYS bar in February 2003. That's all I found through Google.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612723&forum_id=2#7927900)

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Date: April 13th, 2007 10:40 PM

Author: Community Norm

Registration Number: 4157673

MOSHE M. KANOVSKY

LAWRENCE, KRAUSE & ASSOCIATES, P.C.

67 WALL ST STE 1701

NEW YORK, NY 10005-3124

United States

(212) 269-7000

Year Admitted in NY: 2003

Appellate Division Department of Admission: 2

Law School: CARDOZO LAW SCHOOL

Registration Status: Due to reregister within 30 days of birthday

Next Registration: Apr 2007

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612723&forum_id=2#7928098)

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Date: April 13th, 2007 10:48 PM

Author: Community Norm

Subject: ofmg -- toilet lawyer kills self.

Attorney: Krause & Associates, 67 Wall Street, New York, NY 10005. Plaintiff personal injury firm, $35,000. Cover letter, resume and writing sample by email to Avril Winchester at krauselaw@hotmail.com And Lawrence Krause at krause@lawyer.com. Telephone 212 269-7000.

http://www.law.cuny.edu/OurResources/careersvcs/dec1503.html

[last updated at 12/09/03 3:26 PM]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612723&forum_id=2#7928157)

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Date: April 13th, 2007 11:15 PM

Author: valen2

he was a strong dude for lasting that long.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612723&forum_id=2#7928344)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928766)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:20 AM
Author: Kink-friendly nibblets

Why do lawyers tolerate $35k salaries?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928780)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:06 AM
Author: federal dragon

ha! You think they have a choice?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929096)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:13 AM
Author: Coral filthy hall

I just posted a bunch of choices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929133)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:17 AM
Author: federal dragon

those 45-50k a year jobs dont look any better when you have 120k in debt I'd imagine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929153)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:20 AM
Author: Coral filthy hall

$35k is less than $45k, isn't it? You do believe in math, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929166)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:21 AM
Author: federal dragon

10k basically makes no difference when you live in NYC and have debt like that. All it means is that you can afford to go to McDonalds a few more times a week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929178)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:35 AM
Author: Coral filthy hall

$45k is 22.5% more after taxes.

Assuming $700/month loan payments, that's 36% more money after taxes and the loan.

That's not small.

$6000/year is more than McDonald's money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929250)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:40 AM
Author: federal dragon

700 a month seems rather low (I would think its more like 1k thanks to private loans), but whatever. 6k in NYC buys basically nothing. It means you have no hope of ever owning a home/apartment in the city or even renting a decent 2 bedroom outside of the ghetto. You cant even send 1 kid to private school on 6k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929263)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:47 AM
Author: Coral filthy hall

Going from $600/month to $1000/month for housing is a big jump.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929302)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:50 AM
Author: federal dragon

not in NYC where both numbers are basically laughable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929336)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:51 AM
Author: Coral filthy hall

You're being deliberately fucktarded. I'm done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929344)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:55 AM
Author: drab market really tough guy

I lol'd at this exchange, ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929373)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:56 AM
Author: federal dragon

what can you rent in NYC for 600? A basement in queens maybe, but probably NOTHING. You would almost certainly be looking for roomates.

For 1k you can move up to a 1 bedroom in the ghetto. My parents rented out a 1 bedroom a few months ago for 1200 next to the Marlboro projects in Brooklyn. 570sq feet of shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929377)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:47 AM
Author: up-to-no-good mother property

WHEN DO YOU THINK THEY'LL FINISH DRAWING UP THE COMPLAINT AGAINST THE TOILET FIRM THAT KILLED HIM?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929639)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:31 AM
Author: Coral filthy hall

http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/tch/311498143.html

Exterminator $35,000 - $40,000 12Hr Shifts = $90,000



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928850)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:32 AM
Author: Coral filthy hall

http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/tch/310772016.html

Stock Clerk $12Hr L.I. - Shipping Supervisor $40-50,000 to $70,000 with 12Hr Shifts Advance to Warehouse Mgr. $100K by JFK



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928855)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:33 AM
Author: Coral filthy hall

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/ofc/310079414.html

EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT, Investment Fund (up to $85K+Bonus+Great Benefits)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928866)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:36 AM
Author: Coral filthy hall

http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/ret/310471164.html

Enterprise Rent-A-Car Management Trainee Progr

Compensation: 32,500-35,000 the first year.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928888)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:39 AM
Author: Coral filthy hall

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bus/310649631.html

IHOP Manager (Harlem / Morningside)

Compensation: $37,000 - $45,000 plus Bonus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928920)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:57 AM
Author: Bateful half-breed

Wait a minute, there's an IHOP in Morningside?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929056)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:59 AM
Author: Coral filthy hall

IHOP > law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929065)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:07 AM
Author: federal dragon

I had no idea there were any in NYC. Good to know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929102)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:15 AM
Author: Bateful half-breed

Well, apparently there's one near Penn (which I can't recall ever seeing) and then this one, which is at like 135th and 7th avenue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929145)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:30 AM
Author: boyish crystalline senate affirmative action

This would have been a good position for him; he made a pretty spectacular pancake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929538)





Date: April 14th, 2007 4:45 AM
Author: Violent 180 Sneaky Criminal Rehab

oh jesus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929898)





Date: April 14th, 2007 4:52 AM
Author: mildly autistic supple locus sandwich

Underappreciated post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929902)





Date: April 14th, 2007 10:35 AM
Author: razzle lodge

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7930004)





Date: April 15th, 2007 12:22 AM
Author: white trailer park

could this in fact, be the DEFINITIVE XOXO post???



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7933775)





Date: April 15th, 2007 1:37 AM
Author: Kink-friendly nibblets

Well played.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7934215)





Date: April 15th, 2007 1:43 AM
Author: territorial station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7934244)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:40 AM
Author: Coral filthy hall

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/lgl/309015054.html

Legal Secretary (Midtown East)

Compensation: 45-58K



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928928)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:42 AM
Author: Coral filthy hall

http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/etc/307857846.html

Dog walker

$15 to $20 per hour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928947)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:28 AM
Author: Irradiated blathering casino party of the first part

WOW

this is the nightmare scenario for every LS grad.... graduate from a TTT with shit grades, get a horrible job and end up killing self.

except he quite literally killed self.

you realize the chances he posted here are about 99.98% right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928827)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:29 AM
Author: spruce spectacular hell

plop plop outted?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928834)





Date: April 14th, 2007 8:00 PM
Author: autistic partner

178.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7932271)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:14 AM
Author: charcoal heaven marketing idea

Cardozo isn't even a true TTT either. The thought of incurring $100K+ in debt and pulling a starting salary of $35k is horrifying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929140)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:21 AM
Author: Bateful half-breed

Well, it's possible this guy had some issues. I mean, he did just throw himself out of a 69th-story window.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929177)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:02 AM
Author: concupiscible misunderstood ceo twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929406)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:10 AM
Author: Bateful half-breed

What I mean is the reason he could only get a job paying $35K might have been that he had of some kind of personality disorder.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929450)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:36 AM
Author: Exciting Orchid Chapel

"you realize the chances he posted here are about 99.98% right?"

This guy redefines "outted".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929576)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:42 AM
Author: Cerise Multi-colored Theater Stage Jew

His student debt dies with him, right?

I wonder if he was in a financial position where he was so deeply in debt and able to command such a low salary in the open market that his suicide made financial sense for his family and himself. How awful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928950)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:44 AM
Author: Coral filthy hall

Suicide is for pussies. He should have concocted a devious plan to eliminate his debt (if that's the reason). If he fails, then he can hop out the window.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928961)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:48 AM
Author: Awkward Mind-boggling Regret Hairy Legs

Might as well die in a hail of police gunfire after robbing a few banks rather than jumping out a window.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929003)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:52 AM
Author: Coral filthy hall

That's cool, too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929035)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:10 AM
Author: federal dragon

but then you wouldnt pity him. Now the state bar and ABA will hold a bunch of stupid conferences and meetings and shit where NOTHING will be decided and of course NOTHING will change and the ABA will of oourse continue to accredit more and more TTT schools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929116)





Date: April 14th, 2007 5:28 AM
Author: cheese-eating coffee pot resort

He should have faked his own death and then gotten a new identity illegal-alien style.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929916)





Date: April 15th, 2007 1:38 AM
Author: Kink-friendly nibblets

What are the best ways to fake your own death?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7934221)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:11 AM
Author: federal dragon

if he had a co-signor the co-signor is stuck I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929119)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:19 AM
Author: Coral filthy hall

Death Discharge

Cancellation because of the borrower's death (or, in the case of PLUS Loans, the death of the student for whom the parent borrowed) is based on an original or certified copy of the death certificate submitted to the school (for a Federal Perkins Loan) or to the holder of the loan (for a FFEL or Direct Stafford Loan).

http://www.studentaid.ed.gov/PORTALSWebApp/students/english/discharges.jsp?tab=repaying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929162)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:23 AM
Author: federal dragon

what about private loans?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929184)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:38 AM
Author: Coral filthy hall

If it's not government backed, you have to read the contract.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929260)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:41 AM
Author: Coral filthy hall

Most lenders do not discharge loan balances for any reason. If the borrower dies, some lenders will pursue the borrower’s estate to satisfy the debt. A cosigner, if any, may be responsible for the repayment of the loan obligation even in the event of the borrower’s death.

http://www.iowacollegeaid.org/faa/bulletin/Direct_Grad_PLUS_vs_Private062306.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929267)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:32 AM
Author: boyish crystalline senate affirmative action

That explains why he jumped out of a 69th floor window. He couldn't afford a ticket to the observation deck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929544)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:42 AM
Author: Floppy Offensive Point

This is my immediate future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929608)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:43 AM
Author: federal dragon

even retards can find better jobs than this in government. Go ding peoples SSI applications.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929617)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:45 AM
Author: Floppy Offensive Point

but I don't want to live outside of NYC. That's the only place civilized enough for me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929627)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:47 AM
Author: federal dragon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2kocOsqzFU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929641)





Date: April 14th, 2007 11:15 AM
Author: jet racy main people set

rats, overcrowded shitbox apartments, lawyers literally killing self...awsome

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7930056)





Date: April 15th, 2007 1:39 AM
Author: Kink-friendly nibblets

Bed bugs, too.

Seriously, what shit hole has bed bugs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7934226)





Date: April 14th, 2007 7:03 AM
Author: light jap ratface

The correct terminology is SHITLAW.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929919)





Date: April 15th, 2007 12:24 AM
Author: Exciting Orchid Chapel

You mean SPLATLAW.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7933786)





Date: April 15th, 2007 12:36 AM
Author: light jap ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7933910)