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Your jdjive nightmare come to life: Date: April 13th...
wild meetinghouse
  04/14/07
Why do lawyers tolerate $35k salaries?
impressive brunch azn
  04/14/07
ha! You think they have a choice?
sinister kitchen
  04/14/07
I just posted a bunch of choices.
carmine know-it-all set
  04/14/07
those 45-50k a year jobs dont look any better when you have ...
sinister kitchen
  04/14/07
$35k is less than $45k, isn't it? You do believe in math, r...
carmine know-it-all set
  04/14/07
10k basically makes no difference when you live in NYC and h...
sinister kitchen
  04/14/07
$45k is 22.5% more after taxes. Assuming $700/month loan ...
carmine know-it-all set
  04/14/07
700 a month seems rather low (I would think its more like 1k...
sinister kitchen
  04/14/07
Going from $600/month to $1000/month for housing is a big ju...
carmine know-it-all set
  04/14/07
not in NYC where both numbers are basically laughable.
sinister kitchen
  04/14/07
You're being deliberately fucktarded. I'm done.
carmine know-it-all set
  04/14/07
I lol'd at this exchange, ty
low-t cracking stag film jap
  04/14/07
what can you rent in NYC for 600? A basement in queens maybe...
sinister kitchen
  04/14/07
WHEN DO YOU THINK THEY'LL FINISH DRAWING UP THE COMPLAINT AG...
Ruby double fault
  04/14/07
http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/tch/311498143.html Exte...
carmine know-it-all set
  04/14/07
http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/tch/310772016.html Stoc...
carmine know-it-all set
  04/14/07
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/ofc/310079414.html EXEC...
carmine know-it-all set
  04/14/07
http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/ret/310471164.html Ente...
carmine know-it-all set
  04/14/07
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bus/310649631.html IHOP...
carmine know-it-all set
  04/14/07
Wait a minute, there's an IHOP in Morningside?
soggy elastic band
  04/14/07
IHOP > law
carmine know-it-all set
  04/14/07
I had no idea there were any in NYC. Good to know.
sinister kitchen
  04/14/07
Well, apparently there's one near Penn (which I can't recall...
soggy elastic band
  04/14/07
This would have been a good position for him; he made a pret...
sepia fighting friendly grandma
  04/14/07
oh jesus
blue galvanic senate
  04/14/07
Underappreciated post.
Magenta arousing factory reset button
  04/14/07
180
erotic soul-stirring property jewess
  04/14/07
could this in fact, be the DEFINITIVE XOXO post???
Dull cuck site
  04/15/07
Well played.
impressive brunch azn
  04/15/07
...
Histrionic orange blood rage newt
  04/15/07
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/lgl/309015054.html Lega...
carmine know-it-all set
  04/14/07
http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/etc/307857846.html Dog ...
carmine know-it-all set
  04/14/07
WOW this is the nightmare scenario for every LS grad.... ...
Olive institution pervert
  04/14/07
plop plop outted?
Thriller Generalized Bond Area
  04/14/07
178.
Kink-friendly garrison
  04/14/07
Cardozo isn't even a true TTT either. The thought of incurr...
Hyperactive Indian Lodge Police Squad
  04/14/07
Well, it's possible this guy had some issues. I mean, he di...
soggy elastic band
  04/14/07
...
Angry sapphire psychic jew
  04/14/07
What I mean is the reason he could only get a job paying $35...
soggy elastic band
  04/14/07
"you realize the chances he posted here are about 99.98...
thirsty halford
  04/14/07
His student debt dies with him, right? I wonder if he was...
shaky translucent pit
  04/14/07
Suicide is for pussies. He should have concocted a devious ...
carmine know-it-all set
  04/14/07
Might as well die in a hail of police gunfire after robbing ...
learning disabled greedy tanning salon
  04/14/07
That's cool, too.
carmine know-it-all set
  04/14/07
but then you wouldnt pity him. Now the state bar and ABA wil...
sinister kitchen
  04/14/07
He should have faked his own death and then gotten a new ide...
beta awkward shrine depressive
  04/14/07
What are the best ways to fake your own death?
impressive brunch azn
  04/15/07
if he had a co-signor the co-signor is stuck I think.
sinister kitchen
  04/14/07
Death Discharge Cancellation because of the borrower's deat...
carmine know-it-all set
  04/14/07
what about private loans?
sinister kitchen
  04/14/07
If it's not government backed, you have to read the contract...
carmine know-it-all set
  04/14/07
Most lenders do not discharge loan balances for any reason. ...
carmine know-it-all set
  04/14/07
That explains why he jumped out of a 69th floor window. He ...
sepia fighting friendly grandma
  04/14/07
This is my immediate future.
flesh territorial roommate
  04/14/07
even retards can find better jobs than this in government. G...
sinister kitchen
  04/14/07
but I don't want to live outside of NYC. That's the only pl...
flesh territorial roommate
  04/14/07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2kocOsqzFU
sinister kitchen
  04/14/07
rats, overcrowded shitbox apartments, lawyers literally kill...
coral clown theater
  04/14/07
Bed bugs, too. Seriously, what shit hole has bed bugs?
impressive brunch azn
  04/15/07
The correct terminology is SHITLAW.
Apoplectic Love Of Her Life Travel Guidebook
  04/14/07
You mean SPLATLAW.
thirsty halford
  04/15/07
...
Apoplectic Love Of Her Life Travel Guidebook
  04/15/07


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Date: April 14th, 2007 12:17 AM
Author: wild meetinghouse

Your jdjive nightmare come to life:

Date: April 13th, 2007 9:55 PM

Author: Hazelrah (http://xoxoreader.blogspot.com/)

"Police identified the man as Moshe Kanovsky, a lawyer in his 30s."

I looked him up in Martindale and all it says is "private practice lawyer."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612723&forum_id=2#7927819)

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Date: April 13th, 2007 10:08 PM

Author: Kara Thrace (Adah)

He passed the NYS bar in February 2003. That's all I found through Google.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612723&forum_id=2#7927900)

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Date: April 13th, 2007 10:40 PM

Author: Community Norm

Registration Number: 4157673

MOSHE M. KANOVSKY

LAWRENCE, KRAUSE & ASSOCIATES, P.C.

67 WALL ST STE 1701

NEW YORK, NY 10005-3124

United States

(212) 269-7000

Year Admitted in NY: 2003

Appellate Division Department of Admission: 2

Law School: CARDOZO LAW SCHOOL

Registration Status: Due to reregister within 30 days of birthday

Next Registration: Apr 2007

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612723&forum_id=2#7928098)

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Date: April 13th, 2007 10:48 PM

Author: Community Norm

Subject: ofmg -- toilet lawyer kills self.

Attorney: Krause & Associates, 67 Wall Street, New York, NY 10005. Plaintiff personal injury firm, $35,000. Cover letter, resume and writing sample by email to Avril Winchester at krauselaw@hotmail.com And Lawrence Krause at krause@lawyer.com. Telephone 212 269-7000.

http://www.law.cuny.edu/OurResources/careersvcs/dec1503.html

[last updated at 12/09/03 3:26 PM]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612723&forum_id=2#7928157)

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Date: April 13th, 2007 11:15 PM

Author: valen2

he was a strong dude for lasting that long.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612723&forum_id=2#7928344)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928766)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:20 AM
Author: impressive brunch azn

Why do lawyers tolerate $35k salaries?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928780)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:06 AM
Author: sinister kitchen

ha! You think they have a choice?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929096)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:13 AM
Author: carmine know-it-all set

I just posted a bunch of choices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929133)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:17 AM
Author: sinister kitchen

those 45-50k a year jobs dont look any better when you have 120k in debt I'd imagine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929153)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:20 AM
Author: carmine know-it-all set

$35k is less than $45k, isn't it? You do believe in math, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929166)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:21 AM
Author: sinister kitchen

10k basically makes no difference when you live in NYC and have debt like that. All it means is that you can afford to go to McDonalds a few more times a week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929178)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:35 AM
Author: carmine know-it-all set

$45k is 22.5% more after taxes.

Assuming $700/month loan payments, that's 36% more money after taxes and the loan.

That's not small.

$6000/year is more than McDonald's money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929250)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:40 AM
Author: sinister kitchen

700 a month seems rather low (I would think its more like 1k thanks to private loans), but whatever. 6k in NYC buys basically nothing. It means you have no hope of ever owning a home/apartment in the city or even renting a decent 2 bedroom outside of the ghetto. You cant even send 1 kid to private school on 6k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929263)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:47 AM
Author: carmine know-it-all set

Going from $600/month to $1000/month for housing is a big jump.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929302)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:50 AM
Author: sinister kitchen

not in NYC where both numbers are basically laughable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929336)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:51 AM
Author: carmine know-it-all set

You're being deliberately fucktarded. I'm done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929344)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:55 AM
Author: low-t cracking stag film jap

I lol'd at this exchange, ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929373)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:56 AM
Author: sinister kitchen

what can you rent in NYC for 600? A basement in queens maybe, but probably NOTHING. You would almost certainly be looking for roomates.

For 1k you can move up to a 1 bedroom in the ghetto. My parents rented out a 1 bedroom a few months ago for 1200 next to the Marlboro projects in Brooklyn. 570sq feet of shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929377)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:47 AM
Author: Ruby double fault

WHEN DO YOU THINK THEY'LL FINISH DRAWING UP THE COMPLAINT AGAINST THE TOILET FIRM THAT KILLED HIM?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929639)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:31 AM
Author: carmine know-it-all set

http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/tch/311498143.html

Exterminator $35,000 - $40,000 12Hr Shifts = $90,000



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928850)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:32 AM
Author: carmine know-it-all set

http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/tch/310772016.html

Stock Clerk $12Hr L.I. - Shipping Supervisor $40-50,000 to $70,000 with 12Hr Shifts Advance to Warehouse Mgr. $100K by JFK



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928855)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:33 AM
Author: carmine know-it-all set

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/ofc/310079414.html

EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT, Investment Fund (up to $85K+Bonus+Great Benefits)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928866)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:36 AM
Author: carmine know-it-all set

http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/ret/310471164.html

Enterprise Rent-A-Car Management Trainee Progr

Compensation: 32,500-35,000 the first year.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928888)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:39 AM
Author: carmine know-it-all set

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bus/310649631.html

IHOP Manager (Harlem / Morningside)

Compensation: $37,000 - $45,000 plus Bonus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928920)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:57 AM
Author: soggy elastic band

Wait a minute, there's an IHOP in Morningside?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929056)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:59 AM
Author: carmine know-it-all set

IHOP > law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929065)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:07 AM
Author: sinister kitchen

I had no idea there were any in NYC. Good to know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929102)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:15 AM
Author: soggy elastic band

Well, apparently there's one near Penn (which I can't recall ever seeing) and then this one, which is at like 135th and 7th avenue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929145)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:30 AM
Author: sepia fighting friendly grandma

This would have been a good position for him; he made a pretty spectacular pancake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929538)





Date: April 14th, 2007 4:45 AM
Author: blue galvanic senate

oh jesus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929898)





Date: April 14th, 2007 4:52 AM
Author: Magenta arousing factory reset button

Underappreciated post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929902)





Date: April 14th, 2007 10:35 AM
Author: erotic soul-stirring property jewess

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7930004)





Date: April 15th, 2007 12:22 AM
Author: Dull cuck site

could this in fact, be the DEFINITIVE XOXO post???



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7933775)





Date: April 15th, 2007 1:37 AM
Author: impressive brunch azn

Well played.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7934215)





Date: April 15th, 2007 1:43 AM
Author: Histrionic orange blood rage newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7934244)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:40 AM
Author: carmine know-it-all set

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/lgl/309015054.html

Legal Secretary (Midtown East)

Compensation: 45-58K



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928928)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:42 AM
Author: carmine know-it-all set

http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/etc/307857846.html

Dog walker

$15 to $20 per hour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928947)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:28 AM
Author: Olive institution pervert

WOW

this is the nightmare scenario for every LS grad.... graduate from a TTT with shit grades, get a horrible job and end up killing self.

except he quite literally killed self.

you realize the chances he posted here are about 99.98% right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928827)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:29 AM
Author: Thriller Generalized Bond Area

plop plop outted?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928834)





Date: April 14th, 2007 8:00 PM
Author: Kink-friendly garrison

178.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7932271)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:14 AM
Author: Hyperactive Indian Lodge Police Squad

Cardozo isn't even a true TTT either. The thought of incurring $100K+ in debt and pulling a starting salary of $35k is horrifying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929140)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:21 AM
Author: soggy elastic band

Well, it's possible this guy had some issues. I mean, he did just throw himself out of a 69th-story window.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929177)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:02 AM
Author: Angry sapphire psychic jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929406)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:10 AM
Author: soggy elastic band

What I mean is the reason he could only get a job paying $35K might have been that he had of some kind of personality disorder.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929450)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:36 AM
Author: thirsty halford

"you realize the chances he posted here are about 99.98% right?"

This guy redefines "outted".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929576)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:42 AM
Author: shaky translucent pit

His student debt dies with him, right?

I wonder if he was in a financial position where he was so deeply in debt and able to command such a low salary in the open market that his suicide made financial sense for his family and himself. How awful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928950)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:44 AM
Author: carmine know-it-all set

Suicide is for pussies. He should have concocted a devious plan to eliminate his debt (if that's the reason). If he fails, then he can hop out the window.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7928961)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:48 AM
Author: learning disabled greedy tanning salon

Might as well die in a hail of police gunfire after robbing a few banks rather than jumping out a window.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929003)





Date: April 14th, 2007 12:52 AM
Author: carmine know-it-all set

That's cool, too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929035)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:10 AM
Author: sinister kitchen

but then you wouldnt pity him. Now the state bar and ABA will hold a bunch of stupid conferences and meetings and shit where NOTHING will be decided and of course NOTHING will change and the ABA will of oourse continue to accredit more and more TTT schools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929116)





Date: April 14th, 2007 5:28 AM
Author: beta awkward shrine depressive

He should have faked his own death and then gotten a new identity illegal-alien style.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929916)





Date: April 15th, 2007 1:38 AM
Author: impressive brunch azn

What are the best ways to fake your own death?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7934221)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:11 AM
Author: sinister kitchen

if he had a co-signor the co-signor is stuck I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929119)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:19 AM
Author: carmine know-it-all set

Death Discharge

Cancellation because of the borrower's death (or, in the case of PLUS Loans, the death of the student for whom the parent borrowed) is based on an original or certified copy of the death certificate submitted to the school (for a Federal Perkins Loan) or to the holder of the loan (for a FFEL or Direct Stafford Loan).

http://www.studentaid.ed.gov/PORTALSWebApp/students/english/discharges.jsp?tab=repaying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929162)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:23 AM
Author: sinister kitchen

what about private loans?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929184)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:38 AM
Author: carmine know-it-all set

If it's not government backed, you have to read the contract.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929260)





Date: April 14th, 2007 1:41 AM
Author: carmine know-it-all set

Most lenders do not discharge loan balances for any reason. If the borrower dies, some lenders will pursue the borrower’s estate to satisfy the debt. A cosigner, if any, may be responsible for the repayment of the loan obligation even in the event of the borrower’s death.

http://www.iowacollegeaid.org/faa/bulletin/Direct_Grad_PLUS_vs_Private062306.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929267)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:32 AM
Author: sepia fighting friendly grandma

That explains why he jumped out of a 69th floor window. He couldn't afford a ticket to the observation deck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929544)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:42 AM
Author: flesh territorial roommate

This is my immediate future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929608)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:43 AM
Author: sinister kitchen

even retards can find better jobs than this in government. Go ding peoples SSI applications.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929617)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:45 AM
Author: flesh territorial roommate

but I don't want to live outside of NYC. That's the only place civilized enough for me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929627)





Date: April 14th, 2007 2:47 AM
Author: sinister kitchen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2kocOsqzFU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929641)





Date: April 14th, 2007 11:15 AM
Author: coral clown theater

rats, overcrowded shitbox apartments, lawyers literally killing self...awsome

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7930056)





Date: April 15th, 2007 1:39 AM
Author: impressive brunch azn

Bed bugs, too.

Seriously, what shit hole has bed bugs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7934226)





Date: April 14th, 2007 7:03 AM
Author: Apoplectic Love Of Her Life Travel Guidebook

The correct terminology is SHITLAW.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7929919)





Date: April 15th, 2007 12:24 AM
Author: thirsty halford

You mean SPLATLAW.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7933786)





Date: April 15th, 2007 12:36 AM
Author: Apoplectic Love Of Her Life Travel Guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=612983&forum_id=2#7933910)