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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:30 PM Author: Aromatic temple voyeur I am so not qualified, but on Friday I was made partner.
How I did it: threatened to start my own firm, stealing a couple clients and some of the best associates, if not given partnership.
Taking Q's. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:32 PM Author: Mildly autistic opaque field telephone how much do you have to put up? whats your expected share of profits? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849583) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:34 PM Author: Aromatic temple voyeur I'm actually not allowed to say. I'm getting less than I expected. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849591) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:34 PM Author: Mildly autistic opaque field telephone dude, just say it. no one's gonna trace it back. we need the info. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849595) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:09 AM Author: curious territorial antidepressant drug OP is lonely loser on Saturday night, with nothing to do but flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849767) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:32 PM Author: hideous coiffed theatre projected salary next year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849584) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:34 PM Author: Aromatic temple voyeur I'd like to see $500k, but I expect less, especially if the troubles in banking spill over into the legal work flow. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849596) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:36 PM Author: curious territorial antidepressant drug You could be making twice that if you were a banker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849607) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:42 PM Author: Aromatic temple voyeur Right, but I'd also be working with stupid, arrogant frat boys who consider double-nested conditionals in Excel macros to be technically "deep" and difficult. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849625) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:45 PM Author: curious territorial antidepressant drug Easier to defeat the competition then. Who cares how dumb they are, as long as you can make money? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849636) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:49 PM Author: Aromatic temple voyeur Advancement in IBD isn't about intelligence. In fact, the smart ones usually bomb out within 6 months. (A couple of my classmates in law school had this path, and they were nervous wrecks.) The competition's based on endurance/hours-grinding, so persistent dumb people win.
Really, you're a lot more likely to get rich starting out as a biglaw associate than as an IBD analyst. The upside is better for the latter, but the percentage who fail and fall into oblivion is higher. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:57 PM Author: Iridescent wrinkle You could try the same strategy (gain client/subordinate loyalty) that you applied here. Of course, it won't work as an analyst pissant, so that would be a waste of your time. Start with MBA -> associate, at which level you'll have enough clout to demand client contact. Then work like balls to earn friends among clients and junior employees and demand promotions much in the same way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849696) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:07 AM Author: curious territorial antidepressant drug Actually it's based on sales stupid, a skill nerds like you don't have. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849756) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:17 AM Author: Aromatic temple voyeur This is one of the easiest skills to acquire.
You know nothing about I-banking. The first five or six years are an endurance test: 100 hours per week of grunt work, to weed out the people who aren't totally committed to client service. After hustling through that for a few years and getting to clearer air, advancement depends on whether or not you can become the protege of a major player, at which point your career is highly exposed to his. |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:18 AM Author: curious territorial antidepressant drug It's saturday night and you're flaming a board and talking about your "great" social skills. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849828) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:22 AM Author: Aromatic temple voyeur I'm actually not talking about anyone's social skills. I will say that it doesn't take especially good social skills to succeed in banking. I've seen plenty of socially inept losers do just fine in banking, and many likeable people faceplant.
Also, Sat. night is the best time for me to post. I don't really get to post much during the week, with my work commitments and family life. But my wife is out of town, my kids are in bed, and my friends are mostly married and with their families. |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:46 AM Author: Bat shit crazy godawful cruise ship gunner I tried to email him but the email bounced
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:43 PM Author: stirring sienna keepsake machete gaming laptop And 15 times that if he were a good basketball player. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849630) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:45 PM Author: curious territorial antidepressant drug And 200 times that if he was good hedge fund manager (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849639) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:33 PM Author: Hairraiser ruby principal's office personal credit line How'd you do it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849586) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:39 PM Author: Aromatic temple voyeur I asked about being made partner last August, and was denied. I was pretty pissed, because I've been busting my ass (1900-2300 hours per year) for nine years. I got into a screaming match over it but, surprisingly, wasn't fired.
On Thursday, I was fed up and brought two senior partners into a conversation, wherein I basically told them that if they didn't make me a P, I'd start my own firm and take 2 clients (whom I named) and 5 talented associates (whom I didn't.)
I figured the move would either get me made or fired. Surprisingly, it worked for the better. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:41 PM Author: Disrespectful stage pozpig shrewd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849624) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:44 PM Author: Aromatic temple voyeur My heart was racing as I played this move. I really didn't expect it to work, but I was sick of those fuckers taking advantage of me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849632) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:45 PM Author: Exciting Aggressive Philosopher-king Fuh-lame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849638) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:46 PM Author: Exciting Aggressive Philosopher-king stfu (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849643) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:49 PM Author: Disrespectful stage pozpig how often do you bring in new clients? edit: meant for post above (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849652) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:50 PM Author: Aromatic temple voyeur Never have. I'm worried about this, because I'll need to in order to advance. It turns out that you don't stop struggling when you make partner, because there are tiers of that and you can get de-equitized. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849658) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:55 PM Author: Disrespectful stage pozpig yep. you better learn how to bring in new business, and quick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849681) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:03 AM Author: Aromatic temple voyeur It can't be that hard. There are some really dumb people who are good at it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849739) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:10 AM Author: Disrespectful stage pozpig that's because it doesn't really take intelligence. it takes salesmanship and a bit of gregariousness. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849776) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:13 AM Author: Aromatic temple voyeur These are traits that any smart person can pick up if he wants to.
The reason why a lot of professors are socially inept is that they never need to develop social skills. It's not that they can't; in fact, they'd find it easy if they had incentive. |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:13 AM Author: curious territorial antidepressant drug If you could have picked it up, you would have more friends than just xoxo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849802) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:19 AM Author: Aromatic temple voyeur I rarely post here, actually. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849830) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:20 AM Author: Disrespectful stage pozpig he's actually right. changing your personality isn't something you can just "do." you sound kinda dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849834) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:21 AM Author: curious territorial antidepressant drug Are you seeing a therapist for this dood? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849837) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:26 AM Author: Aromatic temple voyeur You can change the superficial aspects of personality and improve social skills rather easily. Core personality and character are harder to change, and most people aren't inclined even to bother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849861) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:08 AM Author: curious territorial antidepressant drug So this is how losers spend their Saturday nights? Flaming? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849766) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 1:48 PM Author: mind-boggling stead legend LULZ at all the people who call the OP a loser because he is posting on a Saturday night as they post their replies on saturday night (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8851580) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:33 PM Author: stirring sienna keepsake machete gaming laptop OMG! RLY?! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849588) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:35 PM Author: curious territorial antidepressant drug How many models are you fucking? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849600) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:44 PM Author: Aromatic temple voyeur Zero. Married. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849634) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:35 PM Author: Ultramarine Affirmative Action Son Of Senegal have you fucked your secretary yet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849601) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:45 PM Author: Aromatic temple voyeur I definitely wouldn't do that. She's 58. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849641) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:54 PM Author: Ultramarine Affirmative Action Son Of Senegal Fire her and get a new hot secretary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849670) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 1:04 AM Author: mind-boggling stead legend flow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8850226) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 9:41 AM Author: clear irradiated becky preventive strike well i say congrats (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8850834) |
Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:34 PM Author: emerald seedy bawdyhouse coffee pot I think this is flame, guys. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849589) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:34 PM Author: hideous coiffed theatre Maybe, but it's a good flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849594) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:35 PM Author: Mildly autistic opaque field telephone well, obviously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849598) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:34 PM Author: Wild Set how's your golf game? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849590) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:46 PM Author: Aromatic temple voyeur Not great. I average 85. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849645) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:40 PM Author: flirting police squad lodge cough flame cough (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849621) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:54 PM Author: Iridescent wrinkle What's sick about this is that I half-believe it. The OP is more likely flame than not (I'm a Bayesian) but it's conceivable that someone would become a partner this way. Biglaw firms don't make anymore partners than they need to, so the best way is to show them that they need to promote you or lose clients/associates. Of course, if the firm doesn't need you, this move is likely to get you fired. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849672) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:54 PM Author: Aphrodisiac pea-brained parlor psychic fucking flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849673) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2007 11:58 PM Author: Iridescent wrinkle Why are you so sure?
I disbelieve the poster, because I don't think a biglaw poster would ever be here, but beyond that I see no evidence of the post being flame. |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:01 AM Author: curious territorial antidepressant drug you suck don't post here anymore (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849729) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:03 AM Author: Aphrodisiac pea-brained parlor psychic die, faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849738) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:03 AM Author: Disrespectful stage pozpig next person to call flame is as stupid, if not stupider, than everyone else who called flame on this thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849736) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:05 AM Author: Aromatic temple voyeur I think posters call flame any time they see something they don't like. It's a catch-all for "posts that bother me". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849746) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:09 AM Author: Disrespectful stage pozpig yeah there is a shitload of jealous, unprestigious fucks on this board. their wild jealousy makes them completely incapable of fathoming anything having to do with biglaw firm life, including partnership. immediately calling everything flame is pretty much a defense mechanism. if they're ttt, everyone else must be ttt, too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849771) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:10 AM Author: curious territorial antidepressant drug I'm jealous of an OCD loser whose life consists of flaming a board. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849779) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:11 AM Author: Blue outnumbered theater dog poop flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849785) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:11 AM Author: Blue outnumbered theater dog poop flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849780) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:10 AM Author: Blue outnumbered theater dog poop flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849775) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:10 AM Author: curious territorial antidepressant drug Why are you such a lonely loser? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849774) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:09 AM Author: crystalline box office Back in the day, this kind of thread would have gotten lots of congratulations. We've become a harder, meaner, less joyful board as the years rolled by. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849770) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:11 AM Author: Blue outnumbered theater dog poop definitely flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849791) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:15 AM Author: crystalline box office My comment is what it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849809) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:13 AM Author: Disrespectful stage pozpig you forgot less prestigious. "back in the day" we had prestigious people on this board who actually cared about stuff like this. nowadays, the people on the board only care about *whether* they'll ever get biglaw. getting biglaw used to be a foregone conclusion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849804) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:17 AM Author: crystalline box office yeah, I think that's true. The recent troubles made people with something to lose think twice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849821) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:25 AM Author: Aromatic temple voyeur Who were those prestigious posters? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849854) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:31 AM Author: Iridescent wrinkle Sexpert, Fiver, Stabby, 174, pensive, Quasar, Shackleton, to name a few.
We don't have many posters like them anymore. |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:41 AM Author: crystalline box office i destroyed sexpert in a legal argument but he thought he was the bomb. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849935) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 3:29 AM Author: curious territorial antidepressant drug What was so good about them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8850647) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 9:46 AM Author: Exciting Aggressive Philosopher-king Hi, pensive! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8850837) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 1:30 PM Author: Brilliant Histrionic Macaca Cuckold stabby was an awesome poster but not at all prestigious. as i'm sure you'll recall, the "Ding! Fag." meme came about when Bryan Cave dinged him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8851540) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:42 AM Author: Talented Stage Therapy op is clearly pensive. that is not a joke; it's obvious to anyone who remembers the old days. The OP and several other posters ITT are literally Mike Church.
Note the misguided yet casually authoritative analysis of the finance industry, the stated belief that intelligent people can change their personalities and how people perceive them through force of will, and, most transparently of all, the blatantly implausible query as to the identities of the "prestigious posters" of yore.
HTH, losers. |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:47 AM Author: curious territorial antidepressant drug hi pensive! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8849957) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 12:52 AM Author: Aphrodisiac pea-brained parlor psychic i was about to post the same thing
there is 0 doubt it's pensive |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 1:37 AM Author: Razzle forum sound barrier agreed. i mean, it would be cool if an actual partner posted here, but too many things you describe line up for this to be real.
edit: and even more convincingly, the fact that pensive was in anyone's list of "prestigous posters." |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 1:54 AM Author: Talented Stage Therapy There are quite a few other clues, if you look. This guy is constitutionally incapable of disguising himself with any degree of success; he's NEVER been able to stop himself from bringing his pet theories about the way life works into a discussion after a while. The fact that he doesn't realize that these things are uniquely identifying is what makes him so funny... he just doesn't get that he doesn't see the world in the same way as normal people, and it gives him away every time, no matter how clever he thinks he's being. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8850191) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 1:04 AM Author: idiotic private investor university I seriously can't tell if you're pensive. Are you pensive? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8850227) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 1:26 AM Author: Talented Stage Therapy Nope. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8850293) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 2:25 AM Author: Mildly autistic opaque field telephone good analysis, but you are also pensive. pensive is nothing if not an attention whore, and had to bring the discussion to be about him (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8850462) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 1:32 PM Author: Brilliant Histrionic Macaca Cuckold hi pensive! you just had to have the meta-self-discussion, as usual. dead giveaway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8851544) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 2:01 PM Author: Talented Stage Therapy Sad, IMO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8851622) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 9:52 AM Author: mischievous lettuce Pensive is a pyramid scheme. Tell 10 people who know nothing about him to bring him up even though he posts about nothing except himself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8850843) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 10:00 AM Author: curious territorial antidepressant drug I'm not sure which is more disturbing, the fact that you sleep very little, or the fact that you spend every waking moment posting on this board. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8850847) |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 10:04 AM Author: mischievous lettuce you're a dumb faggot.
love, SonicYouth |
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Date: November 4th, 2007 1:40 PM Author: mind-boggling stead legend what group? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=711526&forum_id=2#8851562) |