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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead
  11/09/25
180
Idiotic dilemma
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead
  11/09/25
much more than that
Self-centered tanning salon personal credit line
  11/09/25
anal rape?
saffron abusive fat ankles
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
Floppy khaki rehab liquid oxygen
  11/09/25
...
peach razzle-dazzle preventive strike
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
Idiotic dilemma
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
Big theater stage
  11/09/25
...
self-absorbed stage police squad
  11/09/25
why who is he?
embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
Spectacular Topaz Tank
  11/09/25
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Idiotic dilemma
  11/09/25
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Cerebral Plum Weed Whacker Roommate
  11/09/25
cr he blows
Carmine bonkers rigpig alpha
  11/09/25
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bipolar smoky church building ratface
  11/09/25
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bipolar smoky church building ratface
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
Translucent Station
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
doobsian house indirect expression
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
Amethyst Wonderful Place Of Business Sneaky Criminal
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
Amethyst Wonderful Place Of Business Sneaky Criminal
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
aquamarine private investor
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
Alcoholic angry bbw toaster
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
contagious ebony hospital puppy
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
Cerise Gay Wizard
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
doobsian house indirect expression
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
aquamarine private investor
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
Carmine bonkers rigpig alpha
  11/09/25
*destroying
embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
Self-centered tanning salon personal credit line
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
Carmine bonkers rigpig alpha
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
Self-centered tanning salon personal credit line
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
violet theatre
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
Pearl ceo
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead
  11/09/25
Jews maf
aquamarine private investor
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
Amethyst Wonderful Place Of Business Sneaky Criminal
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
Amethyst Wonderful Place Of Business Sneaky Criminal
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
Carmine bonkers rigpig alpha
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
contagious ebony hospital puppy
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
Pearl ceo
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
Obsidian property
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
Obsidian property
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
contagious ebony hospital puppy
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead
  11/09/25
lol
Obsidian property
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
Stimulating slate meetinghouse brethren
  11/09/25
...
aquamarine private investor
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
Odious chestnut space
  11/09/25
was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
doobsian house indirect expression
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
Carmine bonkers rigpig alpha
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
Cerise Gay Wizard
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
Pearl ceo
  11/09/25
...
peach razzle-dazzle preventive strike
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead
  11/10/25
...
aquamarine private investor
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
Bright scourge upon the earth haunted graveyard
  11/10/25
lol
mahogany shrine selfie
  11/10/25
Lmao
violet theatre
  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Idiotic dilemma

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414449)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Self-centered tanning salon personal credit line

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: saffron abusive fat ankles

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Floppy khaki rehab liquid oxygen

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: peach razzle-dazzle preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49415169)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Idiotic dilemma

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Big theater stage

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: self-absorbed stage police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414462)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Spectacular Topaz Tank

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Idiotic dilemma



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: Cerebral Plum Weed Whacker Roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414879)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Carmine bonkers rigpig alpha

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: bipolar smoky church building ratface



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: bipolar smoky church building ratface



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Translucent Station

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: doobsian house indirect expression

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Amethyst Wonderful Place Of Business Sneaky Criminal

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Amethyst Wonderful Place Of Business Sneaky Criminal

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: aquamarine private investor

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: Alcoholic angry bbw toaster

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: contagious ebony hospital puppy

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Cerise Gay Wizard

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: doobsian house indirect expression

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: aquamarine private investor

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Carmine bonkers rigpig alpha

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Self-centered tanning salon personal credit line

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Carmine bonkers rigpig alpha

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Self-centered tanning salon personal credit line

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: violet theatre

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Pearl ceo

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: aquamarine private investor

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Amethyst Wonderful Place Of Business Sneaky Criminal

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: Amethyst Wonderful Place Of Business Sneaky Criminal

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Carmine bonkers rigpig alpha

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: contagious ebony hospital puppy

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Pearl ceo

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: Obsidian property

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: Obsidian property

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: contagious ebony hospital puppy

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Obsidian property

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Stimulating slate meetinghouse brethren

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: aquamarine private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414950)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Odious chestnut space

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: doobsian house indirect expression

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Carmine bonkers rigpig alpha

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Cerise Gay Wizard

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Pearl ceo

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: peach razzle-dazzle preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49415170)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: embarrassed to the bone doctorate circlehead

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: aquamarine private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49416110)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Bright scourge upon the earth haunted graveyard

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: mahogany shrine selfie

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: violet theatre

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49416774)