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Andrew Sullivan: "I'm a critic of critical race theory so I got shitcanned"--
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Date: July 17th, 2020 3:36 PM Author: filthy sepia state philosopher-king "What has happened, I think, is relatively simple: A critical mass of the staff and management at New York Magazine and Vox Media no longer want to associate with me, and, in a time of ever tightening budgets, I’m a luxury item they don’t want to afford. And that’s entirely their prerogative. They seem to believe, and this is increasingly the orthodoxy in mainstream media, that any writer not actively committed to critical theory in questions of race, gender, sexual orientation, and gender identity is actively, physically harming co-workers merely by existing in the same virtual space. Actually attacking, and even mocking, critical theory’s ideas and methods, as I have done continually in this space, is therefore out of sync with the values of Vox Media. That, to the best of my understanding, is why I’m out of here."
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/andrew-sullivan-see-you-next-friday.html |
Date: July 17th, 2020 3:37 PM Author: chestnut curious pozpig trailer park Can someone explain to me like I am five what critical theory even is? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623277) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 3:39 PM Author: Ruby rehab Remember how Jesus listened to God even though it meant he had to die and go to heaven? Critical theorists think God should be punished for being mean to Jesus. Goodnight sweetie. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623282) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 5:11 PM Author: floppy degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623733) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 9:27 PM Author: Vivacious kitchen volcanic crater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40624762) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 3:39 PM Author: Bateful flushed locale it's bad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623283) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 3:41 PM Author: Laughsome lime university Everything is fundamentally racist, sexist, and homo/transphobic unless it was made by queer BIPOC. That just about covers it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623289) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 3:42 PM Author: multi-colored tripping scourge upon the earth corn cake you don’t have a personal identity. your identity is an amalgamation of identities of all groups you identify with (gay, azn, pumo etc). the sum total intersectionality of all your identities determines your status on the oppression totem pole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623297) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 3:42 PM Author: startling up-to-no-good field Everything good in the world is bad
Everything bad in the world is good
The mere existence of good things in the world cannot be tolerated, and they must be destroyed in order to usher in marxist equality |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 3:46 PM Author: Deranged duck-like native Everything. Is. Oppression. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623332) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 3:47 PM Author: exhilarant pale mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623342) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 3:47 PM Author: Dun Business Firm Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623344) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 5:10 PM Author: charismatic mood coffee pot this is basically it. and philosophical concepts are tools of oppression, so there’s really no use in arguing with them. the world is and has been one giant power struggle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623732) |
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Date: July 18th, 2020 3:20 PM Author: puce gaped puppy forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40627646) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:01 PM Author: Thriller opaque boltzmann Critical theory involves the deconstruction and unpackaging of the racist, sexist, violent, oppressive, homophobic, transphobic, and imperialistic structures that dominate our world today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623416) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:03 PM Author: narrow-minded useless brakes stead wypipo bad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623424) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 5:01 PM Author: Contagious dragon point Essentially. White gays and trans are less bad, but still bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623701) |
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Date: July 18th, 2020 3:21 PM Author: puce gaped puppy forum It used to include white women, but this is already falling to the side. In reality, it is just a means to an end, with the end being left-wing fascism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40627653) |
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Date: July 18th, 2020 3:20 PM Author: puce gaped puppy forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40627647) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:05 PM Author: 180 Vermilion Hospital https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/unabomber/manifesto.text.htm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623434) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:18 PM Author: offensive dull theater stage i never liked how it is always foremost described as "The Unabomber Manifesto" instead of its given title, "Industrial Society and Its Future" i get it i guess. just annoying |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:57 PM Author: 180 Vermilion Hospital I prefer to refer to it as "Kaczynski (1995)" to reflect its scholarly nature (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623691) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 5:05 PM Author: Laughsome lime university 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623715) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 5:07 PM Author: big iridescent lay legit lolt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623725) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 8:15 PM Author: Costumed liquid oxygen sex offender (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40624494) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:08 PM Author: Vivacious kitchen volcanic crater we must worship lucifer; beauty, truth, and gooodness must be destroyed wherever they reside (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623454) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:14 PM Author: Ultramarine Site https://newdiscourses.com/tag/philosophy/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623487) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 5:04 PM Author: Exciting double fault abode It was created to explain why socialism hasn’t generated the utopian society envisioned by Marx. The triumph of state intervention in the economy eradicated the need for Marxist revolution, the argument goes. The oppressor-oppressed dynamic of owner vs proletariat is no longer as problematic. Critical theory attempts to explain why, despite the fact that the need for Marxist economic revolution appears to have been avoided, groups within society are still perceived as unequal. The critical theorist therefore applies the same oppressor-oppressed dynamic of old economic Marxism to individual groups within society. Oppressors aren’t the owning class anymore but whites, or Karens, or Christians, or the cisgender, or the physically fit. The state intervention required for this is government imposed racial, gender, and sex based quotas in all sectors where the “oppressor” groups are perceived as being over represented when compared to the “oppressed” groups. To the critical theorist only this intervention can truly reduce these tensions and achieve the kind of utopia referenced by Marx. And here we are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623709) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 5:19 PM Author: Contagious dragon point scholarship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623757) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 9:20 PM Author: Amethyst splenetic trump supporter 180 posts. This is why I come back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40624723) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 7:50 PM Author: Glittery disrespectful sound barrier gaping If you're a loser, just blame the winner (the white man) for not letting you win (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40624380) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 8:16 PM Author: Costumed liquid oxygen sex offender It's not ok to be white (male, cis, Christian, etc) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40624496) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 10:40 PM Author: Adventurous unholy toaster spot on balance, society is the source of oppression, not individual actors, and we need to change the system to prevent oppress ion (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40625095) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 3:39 PM Author: Thriller opaque boltzmann I have passionately opposed Donald J. Trump and pioneered marriage equality, that I support legalized drugs, criminal-justice reform, more redistribution of wealth, aggressive action against climate change, police reform, a realist foreign policy, and laws to protect transgender people from discrimination. I was one of the first journalists in established media to come out. I was a major and early supporter of Barack Obama. I intend to vote for Biden in November.
Reap what you sow. |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 3:43 PM Author: Costumed liquid oxygen sex offender Some people will never "get it" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623311) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 3:44 PM Author: Dun Business Firm Doctorate libs eat their own, news at 11.
no lib is safe from the lib mob. |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 3:45 PM Author: exhilarant pale mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623327) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 3:45 PM Author: exhilarant pale mother And even he’s not “woke” enough for the mob lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623324) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 3:45 PM Author: Supple brindle plaza friendly grandma "But I hate Blormf too!" He screamed as he was fed into a woodchipper by the woke BIPOC trannies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623326) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:04 PM Author: narrow-minded useless brakes stead Barack surely must think this stuff is bonkers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623426) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 5:13 PM Author: big iridescent lay If there is one person who could curb a lot of this, its him. His silence either is him not knowing the scope or being okay with it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623739) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 9:21 PM Author: Amethyst splenetic trump supporter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40624730) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 9:46 PM Author: At-the-ready Mischievous Death Wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40624855) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:12 PM Author: Vivacious kitchen volcanic crater less than a year into the French Revolution they were guillotining the constitutional monarchists who formed the backbone of the revolution. within two years they were guillotining moderate republicans who opposed executing the king. within three years they were executing radical republicans who opposed shutting down all churches and executing all priests in France. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623473) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:13 PM Author: startling up-to-no-good field The revolution like Saturn devours its own children (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623477) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:14 PM Author: Bateful flushed locale 25 years later they restored the monarchy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623489) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:15 PM Author: startling up-to-no-good field Barron. First of his name (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623497) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:15 PM Author: Dun Business Firm Doctorate holy shit, i did not know this about the french revolution. sounds like they went all in on the idea of FREEEEDOM. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623498) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:53 PM Author: Laughsome lime university Yeah it's pretty crazy during the Terror, most of the people being executed weren't conservatives, just moderate liberals. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623669) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:55 PM Author: Bateful flushed locale uh conservatives got it pretty bad too check out the War of the Vendee (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623675) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 5:13 PM Author: Vivacious kitchen volcanic crater many of the monarchist elites got the fuck out before shit really hit the fan, including the king's brother, lafayette, etc. that's why the "moderates" got got so hard relative to conservatives--they were in favor one day, and in prison the next with little warning or indication they were now considered reactionary.
the Vendee dudes were mostly peasants who didn't have any recourse but to fight.
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:55 PM Author: Vivacious kitchen volcanic crater virtue (signalling), actually
In his Report on the Principles of Political Morality of 5 February 1794, Robespierre praised the revolutionary government and argued that terror and virtue were necessary:
If virtue is the spring of a popular government in times of peace, the spring of that government during a revolution is virtue combined with terror: virtue, without which terror is destructive; terror, without which virtue is impotent. Terror is only justice prompt, severe and inflexible; it is then an emanation of virtue; it is less a distinct principle than a natural consequence of the general principle of democracy, applied to the most pressing wants of the country ... The government in a revolution is the despotism of liberty against tyranny.[308]
Aulard sums up the Jacobin train of thought, "All politics, according to Robespierre, must tend to establish the reign of virtue and confound vice. He reasoned thus: those who are virtuous are right; error is a corruption of the heart; error cannot be sincere; error is always deliberate."[309][310] According to the German journalist K.E. Oelsner, Robespierre behaved "more like a leader of a religious sect than of a political party. He can be eloquent but most of the time he is boring, especially when he goes on too long, which is often the case." |
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Date: July 18th, 2020 3:22 PM Author: puce gaped puppy forum This is exactly right. He is upset by this, yet he helped make it happen. Choices have consequences, and he ultimately supported and enabled his own demise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40627664) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 3:42 PM Author: wonderful magenta piazza striped hyena Shocked he made it through the whole thing without mentioning his HIV status. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623301) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:06 PM Author: startling up-to-no-good field 1 hour ago (Edited) It’s hilarious to see Bari Weiss and Andrew Sullivan try to spin their departures into the convenient and dishonest narratives they always do.
Sullivan does not offer a new unheard opinion. His white nationalism, his weird anti-trans rants, etc. are a dime a dozen. And it turns out, nobody is clicking on that divisive garbage anymore, at least not enough to have it make financial sense for a business. Guess the free market got your ass, didn’t it?
I am so glad we will no longer be subjected to the hypocritical and half-baked stupidities where if Andrew Sullivan gets criticized on Twitter, that’s the “woke mob” silencing him and it is literally the free speech issue of our time. Keep in mind just last month we saw journalists being shot at and arrested on live tv, some even left permanently disabled. Did Sullivan make a peep about that? No, of course not. |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 5:15 PM Author: big iridescent lay What planet do these people live on? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623747) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 5:55 PM Author: Dashing emerald background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623905) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 8:18 PM Author: Costumed liquid oxygen sex offender 🤡🌍 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40624502) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 9:07 PM Author: startling up-to-no-good field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40624675) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:06 PM Author: startling up-to-no-good field 1 hour ago Happy to see you go, you racist eugenicist! Good riddance :) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:06 PM Author: narrow-minded useless brakes stead He's bringing back his blog?!?!?!?
180 |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:07 PM Author: startling up-to-no-good field 1 hour ago Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Matt Taibbi? The veritable Platonic form of human snark who even looks it with a rictus as crooked as Dick Cheney's, who, to cite Shakespeare "smiles in such a sort/ As if he mock'd himself and scorned his spirit/ That could be moved to smile at any thing."
I could say that I look forward to hearing you talk about the excesses of the Left as the GOP turns us into an authoritarian wasteland while the "conservatism" you helped prop up and promote lo these many years turns out workers and denies health care to them en masse during a pandemic, but I don't intend to read your false equivalency rubbish.
Frankly the way you've used a national forum is appalling - e.g. assertions above without stats and studies about ascertaining the real political make up of college campuses. You just make these ex cathedra pronouncements as though you were the Delphic Oracle (which is about how much your assessments are worth). If you think academia is liberal then you are not in it and haven't a clue - you are referring primarily to the arts and humanities, generally the weakest wing of the sports franchise that universities have become - but have you any idea how conservative the sciences, business departments, nursing schools, etc., are? And do you further understand how conservative most college grads are - that it took someone as loathsome as Trump to finally lose them?
Oooh, the mighty campus that is so strong and powerful it has stopped a stupid mistake in Iraq, gotten health care for all, managed to foist a living wage for the sake of US workers at large, saved the planet from climate change, and staved off an authoritarian from the presidency. Ooooh, the mighty campus - NOT!
Come on. You've grabbed a bone, and the meat has long since been chewed off.
It's pathetic.
And as I said, don't let the door hit you on the way out. |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:10 PM Author: wonderful magenta piazza striped hyena “as the GOP turns us into an authoritarian wasteland“
This guy must live in another dimension |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:11 PM Author: startling up-to-no-good field Didn't you hear? Trump is an all powerful dictator who can't even get an executive order written without it being halted by a Hawaiian judge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623468) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:12 PM Author: Dun Business Firm Doctorate emperor Trump. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623471) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:15 PM Author: Bateful flushed locale he literally claims that the vast majority of academia is conservative, with the exception of a few arts departments who he would probably consider moderate
nursing schools wtf |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:21 PM Author: wonderful magenta piazza striped hyena A shitlib like him yearns to be oppressed. He’s probably incredibly disappointed to realize his worldview is becoming mainstream.
Uncle Ted explained it better. |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:56 PM Author: Ocher Geriatric Deer Antler Parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623680) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:07 PM Author: startling up-to-no-good field 2 hours ago Bye bye "Mr Bell Curve don't give money to blacks because they are inherently stupider." |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 4:07 PM Author: startling up-to-no-good field 1 hour ago Love this except for that Bell Curve thing. That was neither liberal nor rational. That, I think was the issue and not "Critical Theory." Just a reminder. |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 5:56 PM Author: big iridescent lay Nymag commentariat most unhinged? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40623908) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 10:30 PM Author: filthy sepia state philosopher-king They think they’re the “smart people” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40625045) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 8:18 PM Author: narrow-minded useless brakes stead Sully's been blogging about the bell curve since 2005. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40624504) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 7:53 PM Author: mewling cracking shrine round eye Vox should ask their Chinese benefactors what they think about critical race theory (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40624400) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 8:56 PM Author: Honey-headed main people The UNZ Review welcomes its newest columnist! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40624622) |
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Date: July 18th, 2020 3:23 PM Author: Exciting double fault abode But enough about charles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586986&forum_id=2#40627667) |