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LSAT is actually a pretty good indicator of intelligence
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Date: February 24th, 2012 8:29 PM Author: pale range i am around the 25th percentile for my school (75% GPA though) and am top 20%
however ive had to grind my ass off to get to 20% and it's easy to tell that peeps on LR are significantly smarter than me
it really sucks to have to work so hard to beat the mean |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 8:33 PM Author: Glittery aquamarine jew indirect expression you're totally right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20046766) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 8:36 PM Author: Sepia beady-eyed striped hyena I totally agree, but with the qualification that LSAT to GPA ratio is the most accurate measure of intelligence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20046778) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 8:41 PM Author: pale range are you the columbia spammer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20046805) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 8:44 PM Author: Sepia beady-eyed striped hyena That's a loaded question, brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20046839) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 9:14 PM Author: Thriller native double fault Oh really. I was bottom quarter LSAT, top 20% GPA. Don't flatter yourself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20047035) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 9:17 PM Author: laughsome toilet seat just lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20047051) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 9:18 PM Author: Glittery aquamarine jew indirect expression (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20047056) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 9:19 PM Author: Salmon hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20047062) |
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Date: October 15th, 2012 5:23 PM Author: Charismatic Khaki Bawdyhouse Son Of Senegal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21794569) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 9:52 PM Author: Hairraiser red regret can't tell if this is flame or oblivious self-pwn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21963960) |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 8:08 PM Author: Mauve talented tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21125585) |
Date: February 24th, 2012 8:31 PM Author: mustard digit ratio resort the lsat is people who thought law school might be a good idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20046745) |
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Date: October 15th, 2012 5:26 PM Author: chrome indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21794596) |
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Date: October 15th, 2012 5:40 PM Author: Multi-colored Twinkling Rehab titcr. simply taking it is a pretty good indicator of intelligence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21794682) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 9:58 PM Author: Arousing overrated state affirmative action fuck i made a post like this a few weeks ago before seeing this
retiring i guess |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 8:31 PM Author: laughsome toilet seat low LSAT is a good indicator of stupidity, assuming english fluency
otherwise it's useless |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 8:32 PM Author: pale range i agree
there is a noticeable gulf in people who score 160-165 and those who score 170+ |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 8:33 PM Author: laughsome toilet seat *gets pulled into yet another thread about the LSAT on xo* *is a huge faggot* *kills self* |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 8:34 PM Author: pale range lol chill out bro
at least this is somewhat related to law unlike the other 99% of poasts on XO |
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Date: October 15th, 2012 5:15 PM Author: Mauve talented tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21794522) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 8:38 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone mediation theater stage the difference between 165 and 170 can be 5-6 questions on some tests
anybody who scores in the high 150s plus is of average intelligence
the real idiots are the ones who study for it and still cant crack 150 |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 8:41 PM Author: pale range yes but i still maintain the avg 170 scorer is noticeably smarter than the avg 165 scorer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20046814) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 9:14 PM Author: smoky jap This.
It doesn't mean that the avg 170 scorer will do better in law school or at a law firm than the average 165 scorer, but there's a noticeable difference in terms of general intelligence. |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 9:16 PM Author: Glittery aquamarine jew indirect expression the avg 170 scorer will do better in school than the avg 165. of course, any random 165 could do better than any random 170 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20047042) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 10:54 AM Author: rose trailer park Sure, but some of this correlation is lost to the fact that games are quite learnable. Cold LSAT is probably a far better intelligence measure than actual test day performance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20049579) |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 8:16 PM Author: Fragrant Alcoholic Party Of The First Part Even on the most learnable section, people top out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21125655) |
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Date: October 15th, 2012 5:25 PM Author: rebellious really tough guy ceteris paribus, yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21794591) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 10:42 AM Author: Irradiated blathering fortuitous meteor "anybody who scores in the high 150s plus is of average intelligence"
What do you mean by "average"?
Statistically, they'd likely be far above an IQ of 100. For example, the universities that have high-150s LSAT averages are far above average universities, and college students are above the population's average. |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 8:59 PM Author: hyperventilating prole the 170+s are muppets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20046947) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 3:57 AM Author: Brilliant messiness muppets, terrorists, intellectuals, call them what you will. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20049147) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 9:43 AM Author: odious bonkers parlour what about for someone who, like me, got nothing wrong on multiple sections, and then got 19 out of 24 wrong on one section, for a score of 160? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20049412) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 9:49 AM Author: embarrassed to the bone mediation theater stage that would be impossible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20049417) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 10:08 AM Author: odious bonkers parlour uh, it happened (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20049439) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 10:11 AM Author: embarrassed to the bone mediation theater stage i misread that and thought you only got 6 wrong on the whole test
logic games? |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 10:38 AM Author: odious bonkers parlour yup. I totally shat the bed and didn't grasp a single premise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20049515) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 10:47 AM Author: Boyish insecure incel Did you LG bible? I went from mid-160s to mid-170s in 3 weeks, only change was in games (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20049551) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 10:53 AM Author: odious bonkers parlour no, i should have. looking back on it, not re-studying and re-taking was plainly stupid. But at the time I was like, hey, this will still get my into my local school, so why delay for another year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20049567) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 11:04 AM Author: rose trailer park Sup brother. I was basically in the same boat. Really should have gunned on the games. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20049624) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 8:41 PM Author: smoky jap Generally credited, although I knew a few bros who scored in the high 150s/low 160s who ended up Coif or Law Review at my T14. Maybe they just sucked massively at standardized tests and knew how to game law school exams, or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20046812) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 8:45 PM Author: pale range i do acknowledge some bros only take the LSAT once and so w/o prep courses + study at home while working full-time (ME)
i think if i studied full-time + took prep course + took test twice i could have performed 3-7 pts better |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 8:50 PM Author: smoky jap This. All of those people that I know who did poorly on the LSAT took the test once. Some of them took prep courses, some of them didn't. But all of them have some story about test day like "I had to take a massive shit and they wouldn't let me out of the room and that messed up my focus". One girl showed up hung over (or claimed to) and got in the low 160s, but somehow she still got into my law school. She graduated with honors and scored Vault 20 biglaw, too.
LOL. |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 8:51 PM Author: vermilion doobsian candlestick maker If coach would've put me in fourth quarter we would have won state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20046900) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 9:02 PM Author: laughsome toilet seat it took me about two weeks to add 8-10 points and about four more to add another 3-4 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20046975) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 9:13 PM Author: Charismatic Khaki Bawdyhouse Son Of Senegal I studied on my own for 3 weeks while working full time. Got a 178. I don't think classes or massive amounts of studying do much for the LSAT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20047023) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 9:50 PM Author: Mauve talented tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21963944) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 8:54 PM Author: Vivacious black old irish cottage (guy who goes to Cornell) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20046912) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 9:12 PM Author: Charismatic Khaki Bawdyhouse Son Of Senegal That's because law school grades are all about efficient grinding. Intelligence will introduce gradations among those who did the same amount of efficient grinding. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20047016) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 9:14 PM Author: Glittery aquamarine jew indirect expression sorry, I'm at the top of my class and do zero grinding (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20047026) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 9:08 PM Author: Charismatic Khaki Bawdyhouse Son Of Senegal Assuming a minimal floor of preparation, LSAT is an extremely good indicator of general intelligence.
I loved the LSAT. I wouldn't mind taking it 20 times. Too bad everything after that is absolutely horrible by comparison, such as law school, the bar exam, and working. I loved just being a whiz kid. Grinding sucks. |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 9:09 PM Author: Glittery aquamarine jew indirect expression the lsat is fun (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20047009) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 9:10 PM Author: Bateful friendly grandma cuck Agreed.
If you take the thing and plan to go to LS in this legal market, you're probably retarded. |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 9:12 PM Author: Glittery aquamarine jew indirect expression not at all. if you score a 175 or above, you'll probably go to a ls, and/or do well enough at the ls you attend, where/to the point that biglaw is assured (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20047020) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 9:45 PM Author: Comical Bull Headed Home Telephone not so sure about this. i was bottom 25% for my LSAT at my law school but ended up in the top 5% of my class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20047212) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 9:46 PM Author: Glittery aquamarine jew indirect expression so you're not so sure because you know of an exception to the claimed correlation between LSAT and intelligence (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20047223) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 9:47 PM Author: Comical Bull Headed Home Telephone not so sure that LSAT determines law school performance. i think it is probably a very good indicator of intelligence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20047235) |
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Date: February 24th, 2012 9:49 PM Author: Glittery aquamarine jew indirect expression oh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20047241) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 3:40 AM Author: well-lubricated slap-happy haunted graveyard scourge upon the earth *enrolls at premiere LAC with 98th percentile SAT score (750/700/700).
*double majors in the Humanities, grinds out 3.8+ LSDAS GPA.
*scores 150 on LSAT diagnostic.
*is currently fighting overwhelming desire to kill self. |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 8:13 PM Author: magical onyx center yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21125623) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 9:37 AM Author: wild floppy weed whacker I am probably one of the highest LSAT scores in my school (7 points above the 75th %) and still only slightly above median. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20049409) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 9:46 AM Author: Federal Principal's Office (bluenigger posting as a pumo) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20049414) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 11:06 AM Author: Marvelous Gas Station Doctorate no wonder i tested in the top 5% lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20049635) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 11:10 AM Author: Arousing overrated state affirmative action i like how the people with low lsats cant figure out the difference between statistics and anecdotes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#20049648) |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 8:14 PM Author: magical onyx center yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21125638) |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 8:25 PM Author: Arousing overrated state affirmative action "I know people who are great at math and scored horrible on the LSAT."
no you don't |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 8:25 PM Author: magical onyx center yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21125740) |
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Date: October 15th, 2012 5:24 PM Author: aqua coffee pot site I would agree that it tests intelligence to an extent
However, for the last few months I had been counseling a friend who was preparing to take the LSAT, and I began to realize that my strategy toward taking the test was kinda perverse. For the most part, I helped him with reading comp and occasionally logical reasoning.
I kept telling him that, for any given problem, you eliminate the two or three (I forget if it's usually 4 or 5 possible answers) that are obviously wrong, and then when you're left with the right answer and the plausible wrong answer, you try to think of the ways in which the makers of the test are trying to trick you. Then once you've detected their stratagem, you eliminate the last wrong answer.
Somehow I feel that this is not the best way to test for intelligence. At a certain point with test prep, you're basically just reverse engineering the damn test to arrive at answers.
Note however that this may not apply to the logic games. |
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Date: October 15th, 2012 5:34 PM Author: Mauve talented tanning salon what applies for logic games, shitlib? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21794644) |
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Date: October 15th, 2012 5:36 PM Author: razzmatazz abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21794659) |
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Date: October 15th, 2012 5:38 PM Author: Mauve talented tanning salon what did u get on the lsat? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21794668) |
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Date: October 15th, 2012 5:38 PM Author: razzmatazz abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21794671) |
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Date: October 15th, 2012 5:40 PM Author: Mauve talented tanning salon Did u find the logic games the most difficult? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21794678) |
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Date: October 15th, 2012 5:41 PM Author: razzmatazz abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21794690) |
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Date: October 15th, 2012 5:49 PM Author: aqua coffee pot site Yes, but you learn to deconstruct the test through prep and experience. It's not necessarily the best indicator of raw intelligence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21794760) |
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Date: October 15th, 2012 5:41 PM Author: Multi-colored Twinkling Rehab ITT: Low intelligence poasters exhibiting self-serving attributional bias (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21794688) |
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Date: November 5th, 2012 6:29 PM Author: Learning disabled indigo travel guidebook So what does a 173 translate to in IQ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1882566&forum_id=2#21970376) |