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Date: February 25th, 2005 1:32 PM Author: self-centered death wish
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=140900#2206320
You claim that your main reason for going to law school is that you enjoy studying the law. Let's assume that you're telling the truth and aren't simply rationalizing your failure.
Have you considered that the cost of law school is wildly disproportionate to any enjoyment you might derive from it? If you just want to study the law, here's what you do: 1) Buy some casebooks and a subscription to Lexis. 2) Pay some law students to let you attend their study group sessions. This is a much cheaper solution if, as you claim, you don't care about the JD.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2206842) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 2:16 PM Author: Jet-lagged hateful trailer park
no rhetorical. I need a JD if and when I decide to practice. As long as one passes the bar exam, one becomes an attorney. But I can take the bar exam without the JD.
My friend got screwed out of her house by her son and daughter-in-law. She told me after she had already done it, but even if she had told me before, there was nothing I could do. Had I advised her on what to ask her lawyer to include in the agreement, I would have been practicing law without a license. I had to stand by and watch an elderly woman lose the home she had paid into for years.
I dont need to work but having the JD means I could help in situations like that.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207081) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:47 PM Author: Cocky ratface
Worst post ever.
Your random opinions on property/contract law would have been useless.
If you actually had a claim you could file a professional malpractice suit against the attorneys. Odds are you don't know shit and there is no claim at all.
HTH
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207601) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:19 PM Author: Jet-lagged hateful trailer park
The woman had purchase the house with her son. She was long divorced. She paid into the house for about 15 years.
Then the son got married. He told her that his wife became co-owner of the house upon marriage. They told her if she signed over her portion of the house to them, it would mean tax benefits for them.
In NY that would not be the case because property acquired before marriage remains personal, according to Matrimonial law teacher. but this took place in Jersey.
Ok, she tells me AFTER it's a done deal and the paperwork is signed. The attorney did a straightforward life estate agreement where she signed over her share and was given the right to remain in the house for life.
I'm not saying that the attorney committed malpractice. He did a straightforward life estate. However, isn't a lawyers job to look out and protect to the best possible extent his client's interest.
At the time the agreement was signed, the son had a solid job and no one ever imagined things would change?
When she told me what she did, the first questions out of my mouth were
1. Now what provision did the lawyer make in case, heaven forbid, your son dies and the daughter in law remarries and wants to sell the house.
2. What happens if for some reason, your son decides to move and sell the house? Did your lawyer write up the agreement in such a way that you would share in the proceeds of the sale to compensate for the years you paid the mortage and taxes in the house. (He didn't and she wasn't)
The son lost his job, had to move down south. The life estate clause created a problem and made it difficult to sell the house. It was a mess that could have been avoided with a little more foresight on the the lawyers part.
The house was finally sold, my friend in an assisted living in facility down south after being mistreated by her daughter in law. She did not receive one cent of compensation from the sale of the house.
Is there a legal claim against the attorney probably not, but I knew enough to ask about those circumstances arising.
I know one thing, had I been my friends lawyer, I would have have advocated more aggressively for her to be protected from the circumstances that did arise, just as I had predicted.
So if my concerns were useless, then I guess, I dont belong in law at all. How presumptious of me for thinking I should care about my clienta as much as possible and not just do the minimum to be competent
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207828)
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Date: February 25th, 2005 8:30 PM Author: Cocky ratface
You obviously spent all night writing this.
C-
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2209704) |
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Date: April 28th, 2005 11:36 AM Author: out-of-control awkward brunch
Unless New Jersey is some sort of rogue property state, that made no sense. If she has a life estate the son can't force a sale. He has only a future interest that he may protect from certain actions by the life tenant. They would not be able to sell w/o the life tenant's consent. To hold otherwise would make a life estate worthless, which is why courts don't do so.
Please tell me you haven't taken property yet. If you have, please leave my profession before you further harm our reputation.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2648030) |
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Date: April 28th, 2005 11:17 AM Author: Duck-like Puppy Sound Barrier
"Had I advised her on what to ask her lawyer to include in the agreement, I would have been practicing law without a license. I had to stand by and watch an elderly woman lose the home she had paid into for years."
You are a fucking idiot. Telling her what to tell a lawyer is not 'practicing law without a licence.' And if you didn't help her, and let her loose the house, you are a despicable coward fuckwad.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2647934) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 2:18 PM Author: Cheese-eating telephone
rhe·tor·i·cal adj.
1. Of or relating to rhetoric.
2. Characterized by overelaborate or bombastic rhetoric.
3. Used for persuasive effect: a speech punctuated by rhetorical pauses.
I'm kind of slow - which definition did your statement fit under?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207092)
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Date: February 25th, 2005 1:43 PM Author: blathering burgundy laser beams
Why doesn't she go to CUNY? It's not hard to get into, it's in NY, and it only costs like 12K a year. Touro is private.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2206906) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 2:06 PM Author: blathering burgundy laser beams
So you're a snob yourself on some level. You said you didn't care if you ever used your diploma, and I was just trying to save you about $60K by suggesting you go to the only state school in New York City instead of a private school.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207030) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:04 PM Author: electric light area
A+
Audible chuckle--not sure why.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207745) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 2:06 PM Author: Dead School Cafeteria Personal Credit Line
"Sadly I dont qualify for CUNY. I speak and write English fluently. I won several writing competitions in my life. Also, I'm not left wing enough for them."
Where did you win these writing competitions?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207032) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 2:08 PM Author: self-centered death wish
Highlights magazine. Presumably, that's where she got her first comeuppance.*
* "Oh, well, my comeuppance will come when I firmly trounce Cardozo teams in ADR in ADR competitions."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207038) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 2:21 PM Author: Cheese-eating telephone
come·up·pance ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kmpns)
n.
A punishment or retribution that one deserves; one's just deserts.
So beating Cardozo would be a punishment to her? Do we have some kind of masochist on our hands here?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207106) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:05 PM Author: electric light area
180!
Love the comeuppance reference.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207749) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 2:20 PM Author: Jet-lagged hateful trailer park
not better different. Touro is a good school for those interested in working in the region. Many Suffolk and Nassau county legislators are Touro grads. CUNY students are committed to public service. I once heard it referred to as the "Harvard of Public interest law"
CUNY is a very very left leaning school and frankly I dont think a middle of the road person such as myself would be welcome there. What if I dont want to support the Professors pet cause?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207097) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 1:57 PM Author: blathering burgundy laser beams
Anecdotally: a huge, huge difference.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2206985) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 2:08 PM Author: Jet-lagged hateful trailer park
The school one ends up is indeed the best school for any individual. That's obvious. I didn't "forget" to apply to Brooklyn. I wasn't interested in going there. Just as I was not interested in going to Harvard. "Best" is a subjective, not objective description.
I dont do well on LSAT's. I do well on exams. How do I know because I've practiced them.? Some I get on line and compare my answers to the models. I've asked some of the lawyers in the family to share some of there old exams with me. I do them and give them back to be graded.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207042)
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Date: February 25th, 2005 2:13 PM Author: marvelous center
if you miss one small thing on an exam, it could mean the difference between an A- and a B. it did for me.
if you miss 2 small things, it could go down to a b-.
there's no way to tell how you would do on a curve compared to other very bright people
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207066) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 2:16 PM Author: Razzmatazz coral tanning salon
Why would the school you end up at be the best school for you? Are you saying the application/admissions process is infallible?
Law school exams are graded on a curve. There is no way you know how you are doing on them. I'm not sure I believe that your lawyer friends are grading your exams, but if they are thats just weird.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207075) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 2:24 PM Author: Cheese-eating telephone
You have to take into accout that the lawyers in your family, the ones who are sharing "there" exams with you, are not likely to be the sharpest knives themselves.
A phrase comes to mind: The blind leading the fucking blind.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207122) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 2:36 PM Author: Cheese-eating telephone
Well, I don't personally know your family, but if they are anything like you they can't be that bright. Oh well, I guess "there the ones" who have jobs for you.
(Hint. This is the second post in a row where you have confused "there" with "their" or "they're." The words do sound alike, but there are subtle differences in their meanings that most people on xoxohth picked up on in elementary school.)
HTH
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207193) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 2:38 PM Author: Razzmatazz coral tanning salon
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM THAT GUY WHO WAS IS IN NYU'S FIRST GRADUATING CLASS. HE IS A VAMPIRE!!!!
NYU law was founded in 1835!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207215) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 2:41 PM Author: Cheese-eating telephone
WTF?
Don't you know any 191 year olds?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207232) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 2:43 PM Author: Cerebral principal's office
AHHHHHHHHHHH!
*runs away*
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207243) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:01 PM Author: Ocher set
I rearely do this.
1 fucking 80
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207356) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:39 PM Author: Jet-lagged hateful trailer park
As I said, I dont type very well. The person I'm talking about graduated from the first class to come out of NYU after the depression. What I meant to say is that he is currently the oldest living graduate of NYU Law school. He's 96, still works as a lawyer, and has worked for the same NYC litigation firm for the past 70 years or so.
So no, I dont object to taking pointers in litigation from him.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207550)
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:53 PM Author: Dead School Cafeteria Personal Credit Line
Please stop now, you're digging the hole deeper.
It's embarrassing to watch.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207661) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:54 PM Author: self-centered death wish
Do you realize that you've revealed more than enough information for us to determine this guy's identity?
Have fun at his personal injury firm.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207664) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:00 PM Author: Jet-lagged hateful trailer park
well then, you can verify that I'm not making it up.
I only know what this guy told me. I have no reason to disbelieve him. I just hope you are as fit as he is when you're 96.
And if I were interested in personal injury, I could do well at his firm. But I like to negotiate not litigate.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207714) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:07 PM Author: Cocky ratface
You're so fucking stupid, just STFU. You have no hope in life, will never get a JD, will never pass the bar and will basically just fail at everything.
If that sounded harsh, fuck you.
HTH
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207760) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 2:24 PM Author: Jet-lagged hateful trailer park
I can't control how well any one else prepares. I cant control how much time anyone else spends studying. I cant control how many hypo's someone else practices.
I can only control how much of those activities I do. I'm sure my future clients will appreciate my attitude since it's all about being the best I can be for them!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207125) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 1:58 PM Author: Jet-lagged hateful trailer park
"Have you considered that the cost of law school is wildly disproportionate to any enjoyment you might derive from it?"
Where do you get off judging what the enjoyment that I derive from a particular activity is "wildly disproportionate" to the cost. That's a personal judgement that no one else can make for me.
I dont care about the JD, but I cant practice law without it. True, I dont have to work, but I've had to stand by and see so many people get screwed because they couldn't afford competent legal help. I knew what they needed to do and could have helped many of them, but I didnt have that piece of paper and practicing law without a license is a big no-no.
Who are you or anybody else to tell me just to buy a few casebooks and subscribe to lexis and be satisfied with that.
And what "failure" are you referring to? My failure at getting in to a particular school. Using that yardstick, then 99 percent of law school applicants since very few get accepted everywhere they apply to.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2206988) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 1:59 PM Author: blathering burgundy laser beams
Why not go to CUNY?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2206994) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:02 PM Author: gaped vigorous home new version
From the top of this thread:
"As long as one passes the bar exam, one becomes an attorney. But I can take the bar exam without the JD."
On the one hand, you say that you want to get the JD because you would enjoy Law School, and you could wipe your ass with the degree afterwards.
On the other hand, you say you "don't care about the JD" but that you can't practice law without it.
But then you say that you don't even need to get a JD to practice law.
It sounds like you're a little confused about what you really want to be doing.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207369)
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:32 PM Author: Jet-lagged hateful trailer park
I'm not the world's best typist. So sue me.
I can't take the bar exam without having a JD. If I have a JD, I can practice or not practice, as I see fit. But in order to have that choice, I have to have the piece of paper.
I dont have to work now. It's the payoff for having struggled for so many years. But I could choose to work on a few cases here or there as needed. I could do legal work for people at reduced rates, so that those who might not be able to have legal assistance would have to somewhere to turn. Oh wait, my choosing to spend my money to subsidize legal access for people will most surely annoy and offend the exalted ones on this board.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207511) |
Date: February 25th, 2005 3:31 PM Author: Plum comical roommate
Let's just say I hope RachelB has looks to rely on. That's as nice as I can put it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207509) |
Date: February 25th, 2005 3:45 PM Author: frum pink stage hissy fit
what the fuck is wrong with you people?
you sound like a bunch of upper class, inbred idiots. are you proud of yourselves for your stupid lsat scores and fancy schools? that makes you better than other people? sounds like it's had the opposite effect.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207586) |
Date: February 25th, 2005 4:02 PM Author: Razzmatazz coral tanning salon
Holy shit. Two minutes on google and I find an NYU LAW alum who graduated before the depression, and she's a chick. Not conclusive proof of bullshittery, but it doesn't strengthen the "depression typo" claim
And she is pretty hot for an old chick
http://www.nyu.edu/alumni/information/AlumFall02/NewsFeatures/Commencement.html
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207724) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:04 PM Author: self-centered death wish
Uh, I spent 30 seconds on Google and confirmed that the person to whom Rachelb1 referred exists. He is 96 and has worked at the same shitty personal injury firm for more than 70 years.
Sorry, but you suck at the Internet.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207739) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 8:25 PM Author: Jet-lagged hateful trailer park
shitty personal injury lawyer? No way,
Click on the about him, and then google his firm.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2209662) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 9:28 PM Author: Cracking domesticated liquid oxygen regret
Rachel...give it UP....we PAwn3d YOu...jUst accept your PEasantry future...
HTh
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2210064)
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:08 PM Author: medicated claret fortuitous meteor
That reminds me of Rita Rudner's routine about her friend who was in labor for 36 hours.
"I don't even want to do something that feels GOOD for 36 hours!"
I can't think of any job that I would want to do for 70 years. Although I guess Hugh Hefner isn't feeling much burnout.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207766) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:33 PM Author: blathering burgundy laser beams
He looks awesome for 96.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207927) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:37 PM Author: Razzmatazz coral tanning salon
I know. Maybe I was right about the vampire shit.
Also, could't this guy have pulled some strings and gotten her into NYU...he just dropped 30 large on the library.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2207945) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 8:20 PM Author: Jet-lagged hateful trailer park
yup you guys, that's him.
I supposed he could have pulled strings for me, but NYU didnt interest me either. Yeah, I know it's hard to believe, but different people have different goals.
If you think, he looks good in the picture, you should have seen him dancing at my wedding.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2209610)
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Date: February 26th, 2005 10:22 AM Author: Underhanded know-it-all mexican native
If only we could discover a way to burn cognitive dissonance resolution, this and the other rachelb1 thread could provide the nation with a clean source of power for decades to come.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141213&forum_id=2#2212373) |
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