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Major SCOTUS case to watch pits Religious Freedom against Gay Rights

At issue is the city of Philadelphia's decision to stop refe...
honey-headed senate
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wonderful giraffe rehab
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LJL why the fuck would they want to put kids with same-sex c...
ruby new version whorehouse
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wonderful giraffe rehab
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lol that would be 180
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Underhanded outnumbered pit love of her life
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Razzle clear boistinker generalized bond
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Once you realize that outcome is actually what the libs want...
Hairraiser fantasy-prone roommate
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ACB will 'find a way' to side with faggotry and BLM, while a...
Cracking Lake Genital Piercing Filthpig
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Splenetic Sanctuary
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cream apoplectic locus
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odd case
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Underhanded outnumbered pit love of her life
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State is engaging in religious and/or content based free spe...
Splenetic Sanctuary
  11/01/20
Looks like most recent cases point in this direction Isn&...
honey-headed senate
  11/01/20
Not a conlaw masterman. But this is literally a catholic cha...
Splenetic Sanctuary
  11/01/20
lol
honey-headed senate
  11/01/20
lmao @ libs
mewling associate faggot firefighter
  11/02/20
How is at all free speech relevant? I guess literally everyt...
infuriating alpha
  11/02/20
The constitution doesn't protect Hate Religions hth
Peach temple
  11/01/20
Just part of continuing effort by woke left to push all non ...
Splenetic Sanctuary
  11/01/20
Gonna be a real good one
honey-headed senate
  11/01/20
this effort is not going to stop. Leftist law profs have alr...
mewling associate faggot firefighter
  11/02/20
I dunno, man. I think "exercise" pretty clearly re...
sick immigrant philosopher-king
  11/02/20
that's fine but you are not a law professor this woman is...
mewling associate faggot firefighter
  11/02/20
*unless you are Muslim
Wild theatre
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ACLU has an interesting spin: On November 4, the Supreme ...
mind-boggling private investor
  11/01/20
If the service is couched as being for parents. Not sure it&...
honey-headed senate
  11/01/20
Lol at Jewish and Mormon
Splenetic Sanctuary
  11/01/20
Personally I don't think government should be in the service...
slippery crimson stead water buffalo
  11/01/20
State gets involved because of CPS
Splenetic Sanctuary
  11/01/20
That's a service for children, not parents
slippery crimson stead water buffalo
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I would think the CPS mechanism is how children get taken fr...
Splenetic Sanctuary
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Is the church making the argument that they're entitled to p...
Hilarious mother resort
  11/02/20
Totally kooky for a church to provide a service while practi...
Splenetic Sanctuary
  11/02/20
i understand them wanting to do that, but i can understand t...
Hilarious mother resort
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Lol fag
Splenetic Sanctuary
  11/02/20
I agree with you, this seems like a policy matter. If Philad...
Glittery Maniacal Station Pocket Flask
  11/02/20
it's not the gay baker case but there's no public policy exe...
mewling associate faggot firefighter
  11/02/20
'religious discrimination' seems like a stretch here
Glittery Maniacal Station Pocket Flask
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that's fine, maybe this decision was like an accident and th...
mewling associate faggot firefighter
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*puts on tin foil mantilla*
mewling associate faggot firefighter
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I’m not even a lawyer anymore, but I can recall a few ...
infuriating alpha
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Seems like another case of religion being specifically targe...
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kink-friendly school cafeteria party of the first part
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This is why you know they are being pernicious. There is no ...
spectacular coffee pot field
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Buff idea he suggested
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Papists will lose this 7-2. Bump when I'm right.
Wild theatre
  11/02/20
Why not 5-4 with Kav/Roberts siding with libs
mind-boggling private investor
  11/02/20
Because it's not nearly that close a question.
Wild theatre
  11/02/20
not going to happen. Roberts will only vote with libs if it ...
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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:51 PM
Author: honey-headed senate

At issue is the city of Philadelphia's decision to stop referring children in need of foster care to Catholic Social Services, for decades one of its most reliable contract agencies, after discovering that it would not place kids with same-sex couples.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236247)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:53 PM
Author: wonderful giraffe rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236255)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:55 PM
Author: ruby new version whorehouse

LJL why the fuck would they want to put kids with same-sex couple? Faggots are mentally ill and will molest those children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236268)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:56 PM
Author: wonderful giraffe rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236271)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:12 PM
Author: Razzle clear boistinker generalized bond

lol that would be 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242895)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:14 PM
Author: Underhanded outnumbered pit love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242907)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:12 PM
Author: Razzle clear boistinker generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242890)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:12 PM
Author: Hairraiser fantasy-prone roommate

Once you realize that outcome is actually what the libs want...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242896)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:57 PM
Author: Cracking Lake Genital Piercing Filthpig

ACB will 'find a way' to side with faggotry and BLM, while also being 'pro-business'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236285)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:58 PM
Author: wonderful giraffe rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236291)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:35 PM
Author: supple aqua half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239160)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:35 PM
Author: Vigorous blathering windowlicker pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239164)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:36 PM
Author: Splenetic Sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239170)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:39 PM
Author: cream apoplectic locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239183)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:25 AM
Author: appetizing shivering circlehead

odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239920)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:54 AM
Author: charismatic turquoise theater sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239969)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:14 PM
Author: Underhanded outnumbered pit love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242914)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:36 PM
Author: Splenetic Sanctuary

State is engaging in religious and/or content based free speech infringement obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239173)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:41 PM
Author: honey-headed senate

Looks like most recent cases point in this direction

Isn’t there still a tension between restricting and enabling speech though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239192)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:43 PM
Author: Splenetic Sanctuary

Not a conlaw masterman. But this is literally a catholic charity and ACB is devout and may have even used Catholic adoption services lol. Libs are done here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239195)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:43 PM
Author: honey-headed senate

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239196)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:24 AM
Author: mewling associate faggot firefighter

lmao @ libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239865)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:31 AM
Author: infuriating alpha

How is at all free speech relevant? I guess literally everything infringes on speech if you define it that broadly

Based on the op, it sounds like a free exercise question. I dunno but I guess the city will probably win, right? It’s not like the church must place children in order to practice its faith.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239874)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:38 PM
Author: Peach temple

The constitution doesn't protect Hate Religions hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239181)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:44 PM
Author: Splenetic Sanctuary

Just part of continuing effort by woke left to push all non conforming religion out of public life. Hope SCOTUS draws a clear line here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239202)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:46 PM
Author: honey-headed senate

Gonna be a real good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239211)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:26 AM
Author: mewling associate faggot firefighter

this effort is not going to stop. Leftist law profs have already started arguing that the 1A only protects beliefs (ie, things you feel inside your heart) and doesn't protect actions or words. they are teaching this to their 1ls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239868)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:32 AM
Author: sick immigrant philosopher-king

I dunno, man. I think "exercise" pretty clearly refers to more than internal states, which don't require or even benefit from any sort of legal protection.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239875)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:50 AM
Author: mewling associate faggot firefighter

that's fine but you are not a law professor

this woman is

https://verdict.justia.com/author/hamilton

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239892)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:18 AM
Author: Wild theatre

*unless you are Muslim

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239911)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:46 PM
Author: mind-boggling private investor

ACLU has an interesting spin:

On November 4, the Supreme Court will hear a case that could allow private agencies that receive taxpayer-funding to provide government services — such as foster care providers, food banks, homeless shelters, and more — to deny services to people who are LGBTQ, Jewish, Muslim, or Mormon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239210)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:48 PM
Author: honey-headed senate

If the service is couched as being for parents. Not sure it’s an either or but it’s certainly wrong to say it’s simply a denial of service to the parent when the child is no less (and likely more so) the beneficiary

Seems like the question becomes whether the church is protected in its judgment that gays don’t make proper parents given that the government, who is funding the operation, would be prohibited from doing that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239214)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:50 PM
Author: Splenetic Sanctuary

Lol at Jewish and Mormon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239222)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:51 PM
Author: slippery crimson stead water buffalo

Personally I don't think government should be in the service of providing people with kids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239226)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:52 PM
Author: Splenetic Sanctuary

State gets involved because of CPS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239232)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:05 AM
Author: slippery crimson stead water buffalo

That's a service for children, not parents

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239287)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:06 AM
Author: Splenetic Sanctuary

I would think the CPS mechanism is how children get taken from parents and brought into the foster system

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239292)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:03 AM
Author: Hilarious mother resort

Is the church making the argument that they're entitled to provide this service and provide in a way they deem appropriate?

sounds kooky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239284)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:04 AM
Author: Splenetic Sanctuary

Totally kooky for a church to provide a service while practicing its religion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239285)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:07 AM
Author: Hilarious mother resort

i understand them wanting to do that, but i can understand the state saying no thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239300)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:08 AM
Author: Splenetic Sanctuary

Lol fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239305)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:05 AM
Author: Glittery Maniacal Station Pocket Flask

I agree with you, this seems like a policy matter. If Philadelphia decides as a matter of public policy that they want adopted kids to be placed into gay households and the Catholic church won't do it, the church can just not participate. This isn't the gay baker case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239902)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:09 AM
Author: mewling associate faggot firefighter

it's not the gay baker case but there's no public policy exemption to religious discrimination cases

all religious discrimination cases are based on some avowed public policy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239904)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:12 AM
Author: Glittery Maniacal Station Pocket Flask

'religious discrimination' seems like a stretch here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239907)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:15 AM
Author: mewling associate faggot firefighter

that's fine, maybe this decision was like an accident and they just whoops! found out later it would happen to have the knock-on effect of shutting down the CC adoption service. or maybe it is just one part of a purposeful lib plan to eventually shut down every Catholic (or Protestant, to the extent they still exist) charity, school, and hospital in the united states through a series of religiously "neutral" rules like this one. Only time will tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239909)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:15 AM
Author: mewling associate faggot firefighter

*puts on tin foil mantilla*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239910)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:25 AM
Author: infuriating alpha

I’m not even a lawyer anymore, but I can recall a few instances where a governments were found to be violating rights be simply taking away something they never had to give in the first place

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239919)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:22 AM
Author: Magenta codepig puppy

Seems like another case of religion being specifically targeted. Does Catholic Social Services have an exclusive contract to provide these services? If not then no one is going to be harmed by Catholic Social Services remaining a contractor. If a gay couple wants a kid, they can use a different provider.

This is just like the cake case and the weird fervor a few years ago when libs scoured the country for any food provider who refused to service gay weddings. They’re trying to find any way to fuck over religiously minded merchants.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239915)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:25 AM
Author: kink-friendly school cafeteria party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239921)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:52 AM
Author: spectacular coffee pot field

This is why you know they are being pernicious. There is no risk that a gay couple cannot get a kid from another provider. They just want to crush the Christians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239965)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 8:15 AM
Author: Buff idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41240043)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:11 PM
Author: Wild theatre

Papists will lose this 7-2. Bump when I'm right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242873)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:24 PM
Author: mind-boggling private investor

Why not 5-4 with Kav/Roberts siding with libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41243006)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 5:25 PM
Author: Wild theatre

Because it's not nearly that close a question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41245073)



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Date: November 3rd, 2020 6:21 AM
Author: mewling associate faggot firefighter

not going to happen. Roberts will only vote with libs if it gives libs the win. If it's 7-2 he'll write some smarmy dissent chiding the libs for going to far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41250133)