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Major SCOTUS case to watch pits Religious Freedom against Gay Rights

At issue is the city of Philadelphia's decision to stop refe...
Alcoholic passionate space hominid
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Provocative bistre meetinghouse
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LJL why the fuck would they want to put kids with same-sex c...
Violent Floppy Church
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Provocative bistre meetinghouse
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lol that would be 180
Sable box office
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Beady-eyed hell
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Sable box office
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Once you realize that outcome is actually what the libs want...
French Aquamarine Station
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ACB will 'find a way' to side with faggotry and BLM, while a...
Contagious Crystalline Crackhouse Mental Disorder
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Provocative bistre meetinghouse
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Transparent balding stag film degenerate
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Stimulating Very Tactful University Hairy Legs
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odd case
Glittery sandwich
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duck-like digit ratio pozpig
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Beady-eyed hell
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State is engaging in religious and/or content based free spe...
Transparent balding stag film degenerate
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Looks like most recent cases point in this direction Isn&...
Alcoholic passionate space hominid
  11/01/20
Not a conlaw masterman. But this is literally a catholic cha...
Transparent balding stag film degenerate
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lol
Alcoholic passionate space hominid
  11/01/20
lmao @ libs
concupiscible depressive
  11/02/20
How is at all free speech relevant? I guess literally everyt...
Rambunctious gold lay
  11/02/20
The constitution doesn't protect Hate Religions hth
flatulent old irish cottage
  11/01/20
Just part of continuing effort by woke left to push all non ...
Transparent balding stag film degenerate
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Gonna be a real good one
Alcoholic passionate space hominid
  11/01/20
this effort is not going to stop. Leftist law profs have alr...
concupiscible depressive
  11/02/20
I dunno, man. I think "exercise" pretty clearly re...
aggressive yellow friendly grandma resort
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that's fine but you are not a law professor this woman is...
concupiscible depressive
  11/02/20
*unless you are Muslim
Sapphire Medicated Preventive Strike
  11/02/20
ACLU has an interesting spin: On November 4, the Supreme ...
Internet-worthy Self-centered Stock Car Queen Of The Night
  11/01/20
If the service is couched as being for parents. Not sure it&...
Alcoholic passionate space hominid
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Lol at Jewish and Mormon
Transparent balding stag film degenerate
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Personally I don't think government should be in the service...
Arousing soggy chad gas station
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State gets involved because of CPS
Transparent balding stag film degenerate
  11/01/20
That's a service for children, not parents
Arousing soggy chad gas station
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I would think the CPS mechanism is how children get taken fr...
Transparent balding stag film degenerate
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Is the church making the argument that they're entitled to p...
Cowardly Swashbuckling Skinny Woman
  11/02/20
Totally kooky for a church to provide a service while practi...
Transparent balding stag film degenerate
  11/02/20
i understand them wanting to do that, but i can understand t...
Cowardly Swashbuckling Skinny Woman
  11/02/20
Lol fag
Transparent balding stag film degenerate
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I agree with you, this seems like a policy matter. If Philad...
citrine racy hall
  11/02/20
it's not the gay baker case but there's no public policy exe...
concupiscible depressive
  11/02/20
'religious discrimination' seems like a stretch here
citrine racy hall
  11/02/20
that's fine, maybe this decision was like an accident and th...
concupiscible depressive
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*puts on tin foil mantilla*
concupiscible depressive
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I’m not even a lawyer anymore, but I can recall a few ...
Rambunctious gold lay
  11/02/20
Seems like another case of religion being specifically targe...
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Dashing Windowlicker Doctorate
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This is why you know they are being pernicious. There is no ...
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electric low-t indian lodge ceo
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Papists will lose this 7-2. Bump when I'm right.
Sapphire Medicated Preventive Strike
  11/02/20
Why not 5-4 with Kav/Roberts siding with libs
Internet-worthy Self-centered Stock Car Queen Of The Night
  11/02/20
Because it's not nearly that close a question.
Sapphire Medicated Preventive Strike
  11/02/20
not going to happen. Roberts will only vote with libs if it ...
concupiscible depressive
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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:51 PM
Author: Alcoholic passionate space hominid

At issue is the city of Philadelphia's decision to stop referring children in need of foster care to Catholic Social Services, for decades one of its most reliable contract agencies, after discovering that it would not place kids with same-sex couples.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236247)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:53 PM
Author: Provocative bistre meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236255)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:55 PM
Author: Violent Floppy Church

LJL why the fuck would they want to put kids with same-sex couple? Faggots are mentally ill and will molest those children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236268)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:56 PM
Author: Provocative bistre meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236271)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:12 PM
Author: Sable box office

lol that would be 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242895)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:14 PM
Author: Beady-eyed hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242907)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:12 PM
Author: Sable box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242890)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:12 PM
Author: French Aquamarine Station

Once you realize that outcome is actually what the libs want...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242896)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:57 PM
Author: Contagious Crystalline Crackhouse Mental Disorder

ACB will 'find a way' to side with faggotry and BLM, while also being 'pro-business'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236285)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:58 PM
Author: Provocative bistre meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236291)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:35 PM
Author: Vivacious casino jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239160)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:35 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac ungodly generalized bond azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239164)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:36 PM
Author: Transparent balding stag film degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239170)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:39 PM
Author: Stimulating Very Tactful University Hairy Legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239183)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:25 AM
Author: Glittery sandwich

odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239920)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:54 AM
Author: duck-like digit ratio pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239969)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:14 PM
Author: Beady-eyed hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242914)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:36 PM
Author: Transparent balding stag film degenerate

State is engaging in religious and/or content based free speech infringement obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239173)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:41 PM
Author: Alcoholic passionate space hominid

Looks like most recent cases point in this direction

Isn’t there still a tension between restricting and enabling speech though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239192)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:43 PM
Author: Transparent balding stag film degenerate

Not a conlaw masterman. But this is literally a catholic charity and ACB is devout and may have even used Catholic adoption services lol. Libs are done here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239195)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:43 PM
Author: Alcoholic passionate space hominid

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239196)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:24 AM
Author: concupiscible depressive

lmao @ libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239865)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:31 AM
Author: Rambunctious gold lay

How is at all free speech relevant? I guess literally everything infringes on speech if you define it that broadly

Based on the op, it sounds like a free exercise question. I dunno but I guess the city will probably win, right? It’s not like the church must place children in order to practice its faith.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239874)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:38 PM
Author: flatulent old irish cottage

The constitution doesn't protect Hate Religions hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239181)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:44 PM
Author: Transparent balding stag film degenerate

Just part of continuing effort by woke left to push all non conforming religion out of public life. Hope SCOTUS draws a clear line here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239202)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:46 PM
Author: Alcoholic passionate space hominid

Gonna be a real good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239211)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:26 AM
Author: concupiscible depressive

this effort is not going to stop. Leftist law profs have already started arguing that the 1A only protects beliefs (ie, things you feel inside your heart) and doesn't protect actions or words. they are teaching this to their 1ls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239868)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:32 AM
Author: aggressive yellow friendly grandma resort

I dunno, man. I think "exercise" pretty clearly refers to more than internal states, which don't require or even benefit from any sort of legal protection.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239875)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:50 AM
Author: concupiscible depressive

that's fine but you are not a law professor

this woman is

https://verdict.justia.com/author/hamilton

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239892)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:18 AM
Author: Sapphire Medicated Preventive Strike

*unless you are Muslim

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239911)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:46 PM
Author: Internet-worthy Self-centered Stock Car Queen Of The Night

ACLU has an interesting spin:

On November 4, the Supreme Court will hear a case that could allow private agencies that receive taxpayer-funding to provide government services — such as foster care providers, food banks, homeless shelters, and more — to deny services to people who are LGBTQ, Jewish, Muslim, or Mormon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239210)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:48 PM
Author: Alcoholic passionate space hominid

If the service is couched as being for parents. Not sure it’s an either or but it’s certainly wrong to say it’s simply a denial of service to the parent when the child is no less (and likely more so) the beneficiary

Seems like the question becomes whether the church is protected in its judgment that gays don’t make proper parents given that the government, who is funding the operation, would be prohibited from doing that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239214)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:50 PM
Author: Transparent balding stag film degenerate

Lol at Jewish and Mormon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239222)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:51 PM
Author: Arousing soggy chad gas station

Personally I don't think government should be in the service of providing people with kids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239226)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:52 PM
Author: Transparent balding stag film degenerate

State gets involved because of CPS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239232)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:05 AM
Author: Arousing soggy chad gas station

That's a service for children, not parents

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239287)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:06 AM
Author: Transparent balding stag film degenerate

I would think the CPS mechanism is how children get taken from parents and brought into the foster system

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239292)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:03 AM
Author: Cowardly Swashbuckling Skinny Woman

Is the church making the argument that they're entitled to provide this service and provide in a way they deem appropriate?

sounds kooky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239284)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:04 AM
Author: Transparent balding stag film degenerate

Totally kooky for a church to provide a service while practicing its religion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239285)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:07 AM
Author: Cowardly Swashbuckling Skinny Woman

i understand them wanting to do that, but i can understand the state saying no thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239300)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:08 AM
Author: Transparent balding stag film degenerate

Lol fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239305)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:05 AM
Author: citrine racy hall

I agree with you, this seems like a policy matter. If Philadelphia decides as a matter of public policy that they want adopted kids to be placed into gay households and the Catholic church won't do it, the church can just not participate. This isn't the gay baker case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239902)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:09 AM
Author: concupiscible depressive

it's not the gay baker case but there's no public policy exemption to religious discrimination cases

all religious discrimination cases are based on some avowed public policy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239904)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:12 AM
Author: citrine racy hall

'religious discrimination' seems like a stretch here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239907)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:15 AM
Author: concupiscible depressive

that's fine, maybe this decision was like an accident and they just whoops! found out later it would happen to have the knock-on effect of shutting down the CC adoption service. or maybe it is just one part of a purposeful lib plan to eventually shut down every Catholic (or Protestant, to the extent they still exist) charity, school, and hospital in the united states through a series of religiously "neutral" rules like this one. Only time will tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239909)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:15 AM
Author: concupiscible depressive

*puts on tin foil mantilla*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239910)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:25 AM
Author: Rambunctious gold lay

I’m not even a lawyer anymore, but I can recall a few instances where a governments were found to be violating rights be simply taking away something they never had to give in the first place

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239919)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:22 AM
Author: motley orchestra pit partner

Seems like another case of religion being specifically targeted. Does Catholic Social Services have an exclusive contract to provide these services? If not then no one is going to be harmed by Catholic Social Services remaining a contractor. If a gay couple wants a kid, they can use a different provider.

This is just like the cake case and the weird fervor a few years ago when libs scoured the country for any food provider who refused to service gay weddings. They’re trying to find any way to fuck over religiously minded merchants.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239915)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:25 AM
Author: Dashing Windowlicker Doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239921)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:52 AM
Author: Frozen Crawly Wrinkle Bawdyhouse

This is why you know they are being pernicious. There is no risk that a gay couple cannot get a kid from another provider. They just want to crush the Christians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239965)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 8:15 AM
Author: electric low-t indian lodge ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41240043)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:11 PM
Author: Sapphire Medicated Preventive Strike

Papists will lose this 7-2. Bump when I'm right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242873)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:24 PM
Author: Internet-worthy Self-centered Stock Car Queen Of The Night

Why not 5-4 with Kav/Roberts siding with libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41243006)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 5:25 PM
Author: Sapphire Medicated Preventive Strike

Because it's not nearly that close a question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41245073)



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Date: November 3rd, 2020 6:21 AM
Author: concupiscible depressive

not going to happen. Roberts will only vote with libs if it gives libs the win. If it's 7-2 he'll write some smarmy dissent chiding the libs for going to far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41250133)