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biglaw firms need to get their shit together re: en dashes and em dashes

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Crav...
Mischievous nowag senate
  03/19/18
Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.
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  03/19/18
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  03/19/18
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  05/12/18
This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if t...
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Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases?...
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  05/12/18
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two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em b...
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  03/19/18
you can typically just use a voice command ime
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Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced...
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Very TTT. But who's going to check?
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Mischievous nowag senate

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places) file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or, god forbid, two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641306)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: dead halford step-uncle's house

Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641398)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Mischievous nowag senate

it's despicable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641410)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: Burgundy crackhouse elastic band

Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out before he jumped off the roof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641317)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: odious useless brakes

lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, at a minimum, the trendash. Point to fact, in times of great exigency, I've gone so far as to make use of a pentadash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641319)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: lavender cheese-eating base



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: magical provocative casino electric furnace



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: odious useless brakes



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Date: August 4th, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: i gave my cousin head



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: bearded cerise genital piercing sanctuary

Trendash for life. What the fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641323)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: odious useless brakes



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: red public bath



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Mischievous nowag senate

This literally does not exist in the English language. I have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641347)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: odious useless brakes

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641352)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Mischievous nowag senate

I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a punctuation hardliner and literally have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641383)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: Massive black woman reading party

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: comical brindle stock car menage



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: slate tank



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: scarlet mind-boggling institution



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: comical brindle stock car menage



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: bespoke razzmatazz dilemma



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: kink-friendly trailer park

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641326)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Misunderstood Buff Telephone

Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641333)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: exciting light mother toilet seat

Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just replace all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641407)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: Mischievous nowag senate

You know what is really fucking insane is when people point the apostrophe the wrong way in patent cases. You see this all the time. Probably greater than 50% of the time, a biglaw firm will write about the 999 patent and have the apostrophe at the beginning pointing the wrong way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641435)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: floppy honey-headed range

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641765)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Mischievous nowag senate



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Massive black woman reading party



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: fragrant set marketing idea

i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked about patents in the goddamn constitution for fucks sake show a little respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35658723)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: Mischievous nowag senate

Good job man. We’d be friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36038907)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Domesticated Hell Goal In Life

This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if they see a straight or backwards quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36038931)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Mischievous nowag senate

Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases??? I’d like an explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36038946)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: Domesticated Hell Goal In Life

It flips them all so they curl away from the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36050278)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: outnumbered blathering ticket booth

two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em bash all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641336)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: odious useless brakes

you can typically just use a voice command ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641345)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: beta french chef mediation

Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced with a page limit: decadent or shrewd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641343)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: Mischievous nowag senate

Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use a hyphen instead of an en dash (and, on occasion, have succumbed) is when faced with a strict word limit. If you use an en dash, Microsoft Word records the range as two words whereas it records a single word if you use a hyphen. But it is incorrect usage and I've always been tempted to call people out for violating the word count where they hit it exactly while employing 50 hyphens in the place of en dashes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641372)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: kink-friendly trailer park

You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641379)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: odious useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641390)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: dead halford step-uncle's house

Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641414)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Naked sexy mood

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641395)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: dead halford step-uncle's house

Amateur!

Increase the font scale setting to increase the hyphen to 300%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641430)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: Mischievous nowag senate

This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausible deniability. Many jurisdictions, for example Delaware, now require briefs to be filed in Word format.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641456)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: dead halford step-uncle's house

Very TTT.

But who's going to check?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36050314)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: outnumbered blathering ticket booth

People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, fyi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641582)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: Massive black woman reading party

"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me away, toys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641586)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: outnumbered blathering ticket booth

Damn you're fast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641601)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: Massive black woman reading party

That took several hours per my notebook of billables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: outnumbered blathering ticket booth



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:00 PM
Author: beta french chef mediation

Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this so we can maintain credibility and prestige with judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: Naked sexy mood

Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but then I noticed inconsistent em-dashes. Summary judgment for the plaintiff!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641758)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: outnumbered blathering ticket booth



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: outnumbered blathering ticket booth

nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck about this. its all dipshit mid level associates one upping each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641868)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: Soul-stirring People Who Are Hurt

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: umber deep kitchen

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: multi-colored theater mental disorder

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: beady-eyed field

transhyphenist non bigot here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35645255)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: big-titted ratface twinkling uncleanness

I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places -- file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or -- god forbid -- two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35645274)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Galvanic Buck-toothed Patrolman Indirect Expression

This is — the credited criticism — so say I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36038917)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: Domesticated Hell Goal In Life

The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the profession. Their punctuation is always on point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36039460)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: thriller address gay wizard

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