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Jesus fucking Christ, I hate the fairly new use of "optics."

Example: "And even though TFA members often don’t re...
Galvanic pistol
  10/16/09
Never seen that before, but it's incredibly stupid.
Soul-stirring Senate
  10/16/09
Slightly different meaning, but how do people feel about &qu...
Cyan pozpig
  10/16/09
these are all excellent examples of pretentious douchebagger...
stirring internet-worthy macaca tattoo
  10/16/09
BUSINESSMEN Lawyers don't make up pointless words--we have ...
Lilac Aggressive Genital Piercing
  10/16/09
I have never seen or heard a lawyer employ either of those u...
Galvanic pistol
  10/16/09
Just as gross.
Soul-stirring Senate
  10/16/09
See, I don't think so. There is no definition of optics f...
Cyan pozpig
  10/16/09
It's a little closer, but I think it's still off. Presumably...
Soul-stirring Senate
  10/16/09
Those are seperte definitions, so it describes the "moo...
Cyan pozpig
  10/16/09
considering the salubriousness of your post, I will have to ...
stirring internet-worthy macaca tattoo
  10/16/09
TY.
Cyan pozpig
  10/16/09
outstanding utilization of words. i would task you to draft...
Navy Indecent Pervert
  10/16/09
yeah you'd use it in criticism for books and movies, as in &...
saffron parlor
  10/16/09
No. Atmospherics is from the early radio jargon. It stan...
Mustard provocative home
  12/26/09
Also a fucking horrendous.
Galvanic pistol
  10/16/09
lols, the novel "optics" usage i've heard, "a...
saffron parlor
  10/16/09
*gags*
Pink motley gunner market
  10/16/09
As you should.
Galvanic pistol
  10/16/09
As a former optics person, that pisses me off quite a lot.
Cerebral Theater
  10/16/09
fag
floppy tan feces generalized bond
  10/16/09
*traps you in an optical lattice*
Cerebral Theater
  10/16/09
*quantum tunnels under the fence*
floppy tan feces generalized bond
  10/16/09
*gets entangled*
adventurous vermilion native
  10/17/09
uncertain
primrose philosopher-king theatre
  08/15/10
...
cruel-hearted stag film
  08/15/10
really hear it in politics more
cruel-hearted stag film
  08/15/10
You can almost see how the retard gears spun when the first ...
Galvanic pistol
  10/16/09
I hear it at last once a week.
Emerald resort trump supporter
  10/16/09
Where?
Pink motley gunner market
  10/16/09
It is what it is.
bistre codepig
  10/16/09
In this case, it is not.
Cyan pozpig
  10/16/09
"Optics" is far worse.
Pink motley gunner market
  10/16/09
This doesn't bother me. It's just the dressed-up equivalent ...
Soul-stirring Senate
  10/16/09
i don't think that quite captures it. unlike "whatever...
cracking amethyst house windowlicker
  10/16/09
I think that works. I agree that "it is what it is"...
Soul-stirring Senate
  10/17/09
yeah, but that's neither here nor there.
big henna heaven partner
  10/16/09
this and "under the bus" are staples for not very ...
Navy Indecent Pervert
  10/16/09
*stabs self with ice pick*
shaky famous landscape painting candlestick maker
  12/22/09
How about using "qua" when it really isn't necessa...
Cyan pozpig
  10/16/09
Last time you did this, I was torn between asking you what t...
Soul-stirring Senate
  10/16/09
I just sent you an epic e-mail.
Cyan pozpig
  10/16/09
I like it. Don't be such a cantankerous old fart.
floppy tan feces generalized bond
  10/16/09
where did you hear this usage? i have never heard anyone use...
Excitant tanning salon liquid oxygen
  10/16/09
"where did you hear this usage?" Well, among ot...
Galvanic pistol
  10/16/09
the only thing stupider than "optics" is TFA
Demanding aphrodisiac indirect expression brunch
  10/16/09
I was hearing this from our business clients last year - the...
wonderful site
  10/16/09
Get over yourself, loser.
garnet pisswyrm
  10/16/09
BY WHAT METRIC?
Painfully honest opaque national
  10/16/09
http://volokh.com/2009/11/20/michael-mcconnell-v-martin-flah...
adventurous vermilion native
  11/20/09
Well, it's so far from what I think is necessary that I don'...
Galvanic pistol
  12/22/09
tyft
shaky famous landscape painting candlestick maker
  12/22/09
"But the optics of presidential vacations are trickier,...
Galvanic pistol
  12/26/09
This is fucking nosiating. No - vominating.
Mustard provocative home
  12/27/09
It's very common. Get used to it.
Mahogany Dashing Stead Incel
  12/26/09
It's very TTT.
Galvanic pistol
  12/26/09
*raises middle finger to the face level* "I hope you...
Mustard provocative home
  12/27/09
Why do most of these quotes involve Obama?
Mustard provocative home
  12/27/09
I just bought an EOTech.
Shivering Potus
  12/27/09
Optics has a manly military ring to it. Expect to see more o...
Laughsome plum friendly grandma station
  12/27/09
Maybe that's why business schools love military experience -...
Galvanic pistol
  12/27/09
I do this shit at work. I give AARs to the partner I work f...
Shivering Potus
  12/27/09
Does it involve some sort of matrix? All good military/busi...
Galvanic pistol
  12/27/09
The institutionalized cretinism of one resonates well with t...
Mustard provocative home
  12/27/09
Horrible.
adventurous vermilion native
  04/24/10
"But having acknowledged that it's admittedly gimmicky,...
Pink motley gunner market
  05/24/10
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1396351&mc=3...
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  08/15/10


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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:36 AM
Author: Galvanic pistol

Example:

"And even though TFA members often don’t replace laid-off workers, the optics of the situation are no good."

http://www.thebigmoney.com/articles/diploma-mill/2009/10/15/teach-america-gets-timeout?page=0,1

"Optics" is a branch of physics.

Quit using it as a substitute for "appearances," unless you're trying to make yourself look like a retarded ex-NFL football player who just got his first TV job as an "analyst."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002012)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:36 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Senate

Never seen that before, but it's incredibly stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002015)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:41 AM
Author: Cyan pozpig

Slightly different meaning, but how do people feel about "atmospherics."

"I don't think the company's actions actually satisfy the elements of the tort but the atmospherics are so bad I fear the jury will overlook that fact."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002029)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:42 AM
Author: stirring internet-worthy macaca tattoo

these are all excellent examples of pretentious douchebaggery commonly found in the writings and conversations of lawyers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002032)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:43 AM
Author: Lilac Aggressive Genital Piercing

BUSINESSMEN

Lawyers don't make up pointless words--we have latin for that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002038)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:45 AM
Author: Galvanic pistol

I have never seen or heard a lawyer employ either of those uses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002048)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:42 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Senate

Just as gross.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002035)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:45 AM
Author: Cyan pozpig

See, I don't think so.

There is no definition of optics for the purpose the OP is using it.

Atmospherics actually means

"Features, events, or statements intended to create a particular mood or attitude: " (Ken Tucker).

The mood or attitude so created."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002051)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:47 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Senate

It's a little closer, but I think it's still off. Presumably the company wasn't INTENDING to create the mood of incredible sleaziness when it dumped toxic sludge into candy sold to 3-year-olds.

Also, there are 10 easier ways to say that while it's not technically a tort, it looks just horrible and the jury might be sympathetic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002060)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:49 AM
Author: Cyan pozpig

Those are seperte definitions, so it describes the "mood or attitude so created" regardless of the intetions of the party creating it.

I'm not disuputing that there are more colloquial ways to make the same point, just that it is not as COMPLETELY FUCKING MADE UP as the OP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002069)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:51 AM
Author: stirring internet-worthy macaca tattoo

considering the salubriousness of your post, I will have to associate your atmospherics with a clandestine juvenile emotional apparatus. optically, we may remain FRIENDS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002074)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:53 AM
Author: Cyan pozpig

TY.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002083)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:55 PM
Author: Navy Indecent Pervert

outstanding utilization of words. i would task you to draft a brief of high importance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13003599)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:48 AM
Author: saffron parlor

yeah you'd use it in criticism for books and movies, as in "not irl," which is where this usage belongs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002063)



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Date: December 26th, 2009 11:53 PM
Author: Mustard provocative home

No.

Atmospherics is from the early radio jargon. It stands for electrical interferences due to bad weather (Damn atmospherics again!) Using it for "atmosphere" is already retarded, not to mention an illiterate attempt at a smart-sounding metaphor above.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654396)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:44 AM
Author: Galvanic pistol

Also a fucking horrendous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002041)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:44 AM
Author: saffron parlor

lols, the novel "optics" usage i've heard, "atmospherics" not, and it's so ludicrous that I'm hoping you haven't either...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002044)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:38 AM
Author: Pink motley gunner market

*gags*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002669)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:29 PM
Author: Galvanic pistol

As you should.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13007085)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:48 AM
Author: Cerebral Theater

As a former optics person, that pisses me off quite a lot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002740)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:28 PM
Author: floppy tan feces generalized bond

fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13003371)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:40 PM
Author: Cerebral Theater

*traps you in an optical lattice*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13003476)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:52 PM
Author: floppy tan feces generalized bond

*quantum tunnels under the fence*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13003571)



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Date: October 17th, 2009 2:31 AM
Author: adventurous vermilion native

*gets entangled*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13009456)



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Date: August 15th, 2010 3:19 PM
Author: primrose philosopher-king theatre

uncertain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#15794284)



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Date: August 15th, 2010 3:19 PM
Author: cruel-hearted stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#15794277)



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Date: August 15th, 2010 3:18 PM
Author: cruel-hearted stag film

really hear it in politics more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#15794274)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:52 AM
Author: Galvanic pistol

You can almost see how the retard gears spun when the first person employed that use of "optics."

"Dude, like, optics sorta has something to do with seeing. And appearances sorta have something to do with seeing. And 'optics' sounds like a smart person word."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002080)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:39 AM
Author: Emerald resort trump supporter

I hear it at last once a week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002675)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:44 AM
Author: Pink motley gunner market

Where?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002713)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:45 AM
Author: bistre codepig

It is what it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002716)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:45 AM
Author: Cyan pozpig

In this case, it is not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002719)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:45 AM
Author: Pink motley gunner market

"Optics" is far worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002723)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:47 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Senate

This doesn't bother me. It's just the dressed-up equivalent of "Whatever, man."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002731)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:34 PM
Author: cracking amethyst house windowlicker

i don't think that quite captures it. unlike "whatever," "it is what it is" sounds more in resignation than indifference. and is actually just fine as an expression for that reason

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13007123)



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Date: October 17th, 2009 1:46 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Senate

I think that works. I agree that "it is what it is" is more of an expression of resignation, not one of not caring about the underlying facts.

I think the shared element of both expressions that I was trying to get at was the acknowledgment that certain things could not be changed and needed to be dealt with as they were.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13009148)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:49 AM
Author: big henna heaven partner

yeah, but that's neither here nor there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002744)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:57 PM
Author: Navy Indecent Pervert

this and "under the bus" are staples for not very smart people right now; and those looking for some urban edge work the inane "hating on" into things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13003619)



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Date: December 22nd, 2009 10:20 AM
Author: shaky famous landscape painting candlestick maker

*stabs self with ice pick*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13620558)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:47 AM
Author: Cyan pozpig

How about using "qua" when it really isn't necessary?

Like saying "shareholders qua shareholders" when it is obvious from the context of the sentence that the action was necessarily undertaken as a shareholder and not an officer, director, whatever.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002733)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:48 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Senate

Last time you did this, I was torn between asking you what the fuck "qua" even meant and making fun of you for being pretentious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002735)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 11:51 AM
Author: Cyan pozpig

I just sent you an epic e-mail.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13002753)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:27 PM
Author: floppy tan feces generalized bond

I like it. Don't be such a cantankerous old fart.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13003370)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:49 PM
Author: Excitant tanning salon liquid oxygen

where did you hear this usage? i have never heard anyone use the word optic in this way. nor have i heard the word atmospherics used in that way either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13003551)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:30 PM
Author: Galvanic pistol

"where did you hear this usage?"

Well, among other things, I read it in the article I linked to in the original post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13007095)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:56 PM
Author: Demanding aphrodisiac indirect expression brunch

the only thing stupider than "optics" is TFA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13003604)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 2:00 PM
Author: wonderful site

I was hearing this from our business clients last year - they were always talking about the "optics" of some deal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13003644)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:30 PM
Author: garnet pisswyrm

Get over yourself, loser.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13007094)



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Date: October 16th, 2009 9:31 PM
Author: Painfully honest opaque national

BY WHAT METRIC?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13007105)



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Date: November 20th, 2009 11:48 PM
Author: adventurous vermilion native

http://volokh.com/2009/11/20/michael-mcconnell-v-martin-flaherty-on-whether-the-pay-czars-appointment-violates-the-appointments-clause/comment-page-1/#comment-691626

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13325082)



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Date: December 22nd, 2009 9:55 AM
Author: Galvanic pistol

Well, it's so far from what I think is necessary that I don't think it's a it's a good bill. But I think if it goes down, just because of the OPTICS of the situation and the way the Republicans have framed this as a make-or-break moment for President Obama, it will make it easier for the Republicans to take control of Congress in 2010.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704304504574610240610282058.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13620438)



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Date: December 22nd, 2009 10:20 AM
Author: shaky famous landscape painting candlestick maker

tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13620562)



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Date: December 26th, 2009 11:31 PM
Author: Galvanic pistol

"But the optics of presidential vacations are trickier, particularly in a time of war and economic trouble."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/27/us/politics/27memo.html



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654211)



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Date: December 27th, 2009 12:02 AM
Author: Mustard provocative home

This is fucking nosiating. No - vominating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654467)



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Date: December 26th, 2009 11:32 PM
Author: Mahogany Dashing Stead Incel

It's very common. Get used to it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654216)



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Date: December 26th, 2009 11:33 PM
Author: Galvanic pistol

It's very TTT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654224)



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Date: December 27th, 2009 12:00 AM
Author: Mustard provocative home

*raises middle finger to the face level*

"I hope you appreciate the optics of this situation"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654446)



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Date: December 27th, 2009 12:05 AM
Author: Mustard provocative home

Why do most of these quotes involve Obama?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654493)



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Date: December 27th, 2009 12:07 AM
Author: Shivering Potus

I just bought an EOTech.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654514)



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Date: December 27th, 2009 12:09 AM
Author: Laughsome plum friendly grandma station

Optics has a manly military ring to it. Expect to see more of this term.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654546)



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Date: December 27th, 2009 12:11 AM
Author: Galvanic pistol

Maybe that's why business schools love military experience -- business schools get a fresh source of retarded jargon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654563)



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Date: December 27th, 2009 12:13 AM
Author: Shivering Potus

I do this shit at work. I give AARs to the partner I work for. Litigation is WAR. HTMFH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654591)



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Date: December 27th, 2009 12:18 AM
Author: Galvanic pistol

Does it involve some sort of matrix? All good military/business bullshittery involves a matrix.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654647)



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Date: December 27th, 2009 12:14 AM
Author: Mustard provocative home

The institutionalized cretinism of one resonates well with the other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#13654607)



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Date: April 24th, 2010 6:32 PM
Author: adventurous vermilion native

Horrible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#14810580)



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Date: May 24th, 2010 5:29 PM
Author: Pink motley gunner market

"But having acknowledged that it's admittedly gimmicky, probably inconsequential, and face-saving, I don't mind it, for precisely that reason. Ideally, the admin would get its nice OPTICS, and states would get their stabilization funds. This year's deficit should still be higher, and this act wouldn't stop that."

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/05/in-partial-defense-of-obamas-spending-cut-gimmick/57193/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1112326&forum_id=2#15072773)



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Date: August 15th, 2010 3:17 PM
Author: crystalline concupiscible stain jew

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