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2 white men shoot elephant in Namibia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puyrAgAMvPk
Trip Organic Girlfriend
  10/22/18
http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4110139&mc=5&...
Vengeful base
  10/22/18
2 guys should have been crushed
Trip Organic Girlfriend
  10/22/18
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diverse deranged therapy
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Titillating mustard den
  10/23/18
for what? it was a legal hunt you dumb idiot
180 theater ratface
  10/23/18
Ith wath thegal!!
Titillating mustard den
  10/23/18
an npc uses an unoriginal xoxo meme. i'm shocked
180 theater ratface
  10/23/18
(low IQ shtick) u must have retarded 96 IQ cop relatives.
Irradiated bronze mood newt
  10/24/18
lol easily 2-3" micropeens on these fags.
Yapping provocative sandwich regret
  10/22/18
gas these bros
startled french pozpig meetinghouse
  10/22/18
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maize big school
  10/23/18
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Titillating mustard den
  10/23/18
it's NPCs like you who let animals go extinct. you're kind i...
180 theater ratface
  10/23/18
Youre trying way too hard ITT
Titillating mustard den
  10/23/18
it's idiots like you who know nothing about conservation but...
180 theater ratface
  10/23/18
Hows that Snow Leopard coat, Xi?
Titillating mustard den
  10/23/18
https://www.dw.com/en/wwf-defends-elephant-hunts-for-conserv...
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  10/23/18
I get that they pay money to kill the elephant. I just don't...
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  10/24/18
Lmao
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  10/24/18
It's sort of like arguing that we should let people pay $10,...
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  10/22/18
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  10/23/18
Link to DrakeMallard outrage?
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  10/23/18
🦆
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  10/23/18
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  10/23/18
They should be thrown to a pack of wild Zulus and assfucked ...
Titillating mustard den
  10/23/18
why? do you understand why conservationists think you're men...
180 theater ratface
  10/23/18
(Chink eating shark fin soup with Ivory chopsticks)
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  10/23/18
http://wwf.panda.org/?14073/Hunting-for-conservation expl...
180 theater ratface
  10/23/18
(guy explaining how hes saving Pandas over a bowl of Panda d...
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  10/23/18
https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/24/opinions/trophy-hunting-decli...
180 theater ratface
  10/23/18
(guy showing his grandchildren Mei Ling and Pi Dong his priz...
Titillating mustard den
  10/23/18
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/11/18/elephan...
180 theater ratface
  10/23/18
with a rhino horn boner
saffron unholy persian
  10/23/18
https://www.conservationmagazine.org/2014/01/can-trophy-hunt...
180 theater ratface
  10/23/18
(aspie) you know that these guys weren’t motivated ...
Irradiated bronze mood newt
  10/24/18
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Trip Organic Girlfriend
  10/24/18
ugh -why isnt hunting people legal?
Slippery Police Squad
  10/24/18
Fuckers should die spin hunt fucks!
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  10/24/18
Lol @ faggot ITT defending that fat fuck killing a chill obl...
Titillating mustard den
  10/24/18
Not very sporting. Had a chance to hit it cleanly and didn&r...
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  10/24/18
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Lascivious Goal In Life Kitchen
  10/24/18
If you watch in the background, the elephant shot 3 times do...
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  10/25/18
I thought I saw that bro kind of staggering off at the end a...
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  10/25/18
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Trip Organic Girlfriend
  10/24/18
probably a non-breeding alpha male that they were going to k...
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  10/24/18
Is there anyone that wouldn't have smiled if those guys died...
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  10/24/18
My favorite part is how after shooting an elephant in the he...
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  10/24/18
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Biz idea: trophy hunting but when the SPORTMEN hand over the...
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  04/04/19
oh noes an animal died, that’s an uncommon occurrence
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  04/04/19
trunk blown off by bullet
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Date: October 22nd, 2018 1:44 PM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puyrAgAMvPk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37072666)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 1:46 PM
Author: Vengeful base

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4110139&mc=5&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37072683)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 1:48 PM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend

2 guys should have been crushed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37072689)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 1:55 PM
Author: diverse deranged therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37072719)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: Titillating mustard den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080247)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: 180 theater ratface

for what? it was a legal hunt you dumb idiot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080266)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: Titillating mustard den

Ith wath thegal!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080273)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: 180 theater ratface

an npc uses an unoriginal xoxo meme. i'm shocked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080278)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 3:20 AM
Author: Irradiated bronze mood newt

(low IQ shtick)

u must have retarded 96 IQ cop relatives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37083719)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 2:00 PM
Author: Yapping provocative sandwich regret

lol easily 2-3" micropeens on these fags.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37072740)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 2:01 PM
Author: startled french pozpig meetinghouse

gas these bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37072744)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 1:25 PM
Author: maize big school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37079181)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: Titillating mustard den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080246)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: 180 theater ratface

it's NPCs like you who let animals go extinct. you're kind is too retarded to understand the nuances of conservation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080258)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:13 PM
Author: Titillating mustard den

Youre trying way too hard ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080289)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: 180 theater ratface

it's idiots like you who know nothing about conservation but scream bloody murder at anyone actually conserving a species

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r9-WeNXzTQ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080306)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Titillating mustard den

Hows that Snow Leopard coat, Xi?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080313)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: 180 theater ratface

https://www.dw.com/en/wwf-defends-elephant-hunts-for-conservation/a-15891067

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080316)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:35 AM
Author: Ruddy Charismatic Tank Hairy Legs

I get that they pay money to kill the elephant. I just don't get WHY they pay money to kill the elephant.

It's sort of like arguing that we should let people pay $10,000 to throw acid on homeless people, and then we should use that money for shelters. Like, I see that there is a net gain there, but I'm not sure the people paying money to throw acid on human beings are heroes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37083291)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:11 AM
Author: Titillating mustard den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37083403)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:45 AM
Author: ocher water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37083665)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 3:32 AM
Author: Irradiated bronze mood newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37083724)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 8:19 AM
Author: beady-eyed black woman stag film

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37084014)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 9:34 AM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend

It's sort of like arguing that we should let people pay $10,000 to throw acid on homeless people, and then we should use that money for shelters.

Brilliant. Replace acid with paint balling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37084227)



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Date: April 4th, 2019 9:31 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone fear-inspiring windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#38039435)



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Date: April 4th, 2019 6:57 PM
Author: beady-eyed black woman stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#38042111)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:14 PM
Author: narrow-minded stead voyeur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080296)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:29 AM
Author: Slippery Police Squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37083267)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37072855)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 1:12 PM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37079048)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: bistre indian lodge shitlib

Link to DrakeMallard outrage?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37079100)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 1:40 PM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend

🦆

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37079319)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:06 PM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080241)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:08 PM
Author: Titillating mustard den

They should be thrown to a pack of wild Zulus and assfucked to death

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080250)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: 180 theater ratface

why? do you understand why conservationists think you're mentally retarded?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080271)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:14 PM
Author: Titillating mustard den

(Chink eating shark fin soup with Ivory chopsticks)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080293)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: 180 theater ratface

http://wwf.panda.org/?14073/Hunting-for-conservation

explain lib

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080314)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:19 PM
Author: Titillating mustard den

(guy explaining how hes saving Pandas over a bowl of Panda dumplings)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080328)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: 180 theater ratface

https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/24/opinions/trophy-hunting-decline-of-species-opinion-dickman/index.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080333)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: Titillating mustard den

(guy showing his grandchildren Mei Ling and Pi Dong his prized pair of baby elephant tusks)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080345)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: 180 theater ratface

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/11/18/elephant-trophy-hunting-species-survival/877314001/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080351)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: saffron unholy persian

with a rhino horn boner

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080337)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: 180 theater ratface

https://www.conservationmagazine.org/2014/01/can-trophy-hunting-reconciled-conservation/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37080347)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 3:31 AM
Author: Irradiated bronze mood newt

(aspie)

you know that these guys weren’t motivated by conservation, right? its the intent thats key here. anyone who doesn’t feel bad about killing a highly sentient creature and in fact does so out of sport is a piece of shit. you’d think this would be obvious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37083723)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37083245)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:28 AM
Author: Slippery Police Squad

ugh -why isnt hunting people legal?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37083264)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:32 AM
Author: citrine pungent nursing home telephone

Fuckers should die spin hunt fucks!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37083274)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:13 AM
Author: Titillating mustard den

Lol @ faggot ITT defending that fat fuck killing a chill oblivious elephant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37083408)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:44 AM
Author: Tan cuckoldry athletic conference

Not very sporting. Had a chance to hit it cleanly and didn’t fire.

Three shots and still didn’t fell the elephant. Appears to have nearly blown off his trunk. I’m sure neither of these idiots finished the job so now the elephant is going to bleed to death for nothing. Afrikaners never not impressing the world at their capacity for idiocy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37083660)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 3:17 AM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37083717)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 10:37 AM
Author: Lascivious Goal In Life Kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37084579)



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Date: October 25th, 2018 12:23 AM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend

If you watch in the background, the elephant shot 3 times does finally collapse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37090263)



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Date: October 25th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: Tan cuckoldry athletic conference

I thought I saw that bro kind of staggering off at the end and not falling?

I hunt birds because they live to be about a year old and it takes a lot of work to find them (in open fields not farm raised). Seems more sporting.

This shit I can’t imagine. These fuckers drove up in a Land Rover to a horde of elephants and just start (badly) opening fire. I can even get behind lion hunting to some extent if it’s fully on foot because the lion can kill you if you don’t succeed. Happens with some frequency. More sporting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37093897)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 8:18 AM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37084012)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 10:30 AM
Author: Zippy jap

probably a non-breeding alpha male that they were going to kill anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37084525)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 10:33 AM
Author: Cracking doobsian brethren coldplay fan

Is there anyone that wouldn't have smiled if those guys died on camera?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37084548)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37085034)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 11:46 AM
Author: Obsidian zombie-like public bath tattoo

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37085059)



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Date: April 4th, 2019 9:32 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone fear-inspiring windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#38039437)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37085227)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 10:21 PM
Author: contagious heaven quadroon

My favorite part is how after shooting an elephant in the head they act like the other elephant is way out of line about getting upset. Wish they got gored/trampled to death.

And I support permitted endangered species hunting, but def root for the animals to be able to get a kill too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37089559)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 10:22 PM
Author: Autistic Nibblets

stuffwhitepeoplelike:

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37089573)



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Date: October 25th, 2018 1:30 AM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37090476)



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Date: October 25th, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37091537)



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Date: October 25th, 2018 10:33 AM
Author: gay ungodly area wagecucks

Biz idea: trophy hunting but when the SPORTMEN hand over the cash you blow their brains out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37091599)



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Date: October 25th, 2018 2:48 PM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37093497)



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Date: October 31st, 2018 5:10 PM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37133977)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 11:27 AM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#37314262)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



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Date: December 20th, 2018 10:45 AM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



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Date: March 29th, 2019 11:55 AM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



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Date: April 4th, 2019 9:26 AM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



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Date: April 4th, 2019 2:39 PM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



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Date: April 4th, 2019 3:30 PM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



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Date: April 4th, 2019 5:10 PM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#38041718)



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Date: April 4th, 2019 5:14 PM
Author: crystalline filthpig

oh noes an animal died, that’s an uncommon occurrence

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#38041737)



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Date: April 4th, 2019 6:56 PM
Author: Trip Organic Girlfriend

trunk blown off by bullet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4112388&forum_id=2#38042108)