why are so many conservatives against selling federal lands?
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 8:58 AM Author: azure blathering point
Gen Xer who used to listen to Rush Limbaugh on the way to high school in the 90s. I remember he'd mock PNW shitlibs for wanting to save some dumb little fucking bird, and Id lol along. Rush would play bird chirps and we'd all guffaw.
Now that Im 100 years old, I have realized my error. What faggot Boeing Factory were we trying to build? I much prefer the little birds.
Rush was wrong. "Conservatives" were wrong. I was wrong. SAVE | EVERY | BIRD
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:08 AM Author: beady-eyed locale
[Puts on NSAM tinfoil hat]
Does no one know THE ACTUAL ANSWER?
Con senators in the west like federal ownership of land because their “rancher” constituents lease land for cheap and don’t pay property tax on it. Same with oil and forest etc. also prevents shitlib state governments from regulating it.
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:15 AM Author: beady-eyed locale
BLM leases below fair value of land
The federal land management agencies calculate the fee based on an arcane formula that favors the federal grazing permittee at the expense of the federal taxpayer. The formula was in the Public Rangelands Improvement (sic) Act of 1978 (PRIA). That statute expired in 1985, but on Valentines Day in 1986 President Reagan issued an executive order that made the formula live on. The PRIA formula considers current private land grazing lease rates (though obviously not that much, as we shall see), beef cattle prices, and the cost of livestock production, all indexes compiled by the USDA. Because these indexes as used in the grazing fee formula could result in the grazing fee approaching $0/AUM, a floor of $1.35/AUM was included to prevent such an acute embarrassment.
https://advocateswest.org/high-cost-of-cheap-grazing/
If you sold land to farmer they have to actually maintain it and pay tax on it vs sweet deal they get now.
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:42 AM Author: bat shit crazy set telephone
So... youd prefer that the Chinese or faggot corporations own our land?
Retard.
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:54 AM Author: Salmon supple market
IDK seems like this is a west coast issue. Fed gov. seems to own virtually everything west of the rockies, where on the east coast it just seems like a few military bases here and there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_lands#/media/File:Map_of_all_U.S._Federal_Land.jpg
I've never once in my 30 years of living in the lowcountry every heard someone complain about the fed. gov. owning the Francis Marion forest
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 10:24 AM Author: Bonkers sweet tailpipe
We already have a real life test case to evaluate this. We don't have to guess. There has been massive consolidation of land in Idaho as it has been purchased by billionaires. After they buy it, they ban anyone from hiking or camping or hunting on the land (previous smaller owners didn't care and allowed it). And they aggressively enforce it. These are white American billionaires btw, not even foreigners
The land should stay publicly owned, as much of it as possible. Once it goes private we can never get it back. There isn't even any reason for it to go private. I get the impression that a lot of regular Joe advocates for the privatization of public lands are east coasters who have never been out west and experienced how great it is to be able to have access to these vast areas of undeveloped free territory
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 1:17 PM Author: violent tattoo
well it’s in the big beautiful bill so if the senate passes it then we’ll see
I’m not convinced at all by the “omg it’s precious wilderness” arguments ITT
we have entered a very tumultuous time for global security and the Pearl clutching is very naive. we need access to all the minerals and metals that our country is blessed with. the same resources that drove the allied victory in WWII
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