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Poll: Is receiving a handjob considered cheating?

I was thinking of getting a FBSM with a happy ending. Would...
exhilarant striped hyena
  06/28/04
It's all part of the massage, right? So, clearly it's not c...
mewling den
  06/28/04
thanks. that's what i thought, but i feel better now that i...
exhilarant striped hyena
  06/28/04
Where does the spunk go?
Comical factory reset button roast beef
  06/28/04
Objection.
mewling den
  06/28/04
Overruled.
Comical factory reset button roast beef
  06/28/04
You can't overrule.
mewling den
  06/28/04
Yes I can.
Comical factory reset button roast beef
  06/28/04
No you can't.
mewling den
  06/28/04
I'll allow it.
Comical factory reset button roast beef
  06/28/04
Thank you.
mewling den
  06/28/04
I mean I'm allowing me to overrule.
Comical factory reset button roast beef
  06/28/04
probably on my stomach or her tits, or both. does that make...
exhilarant striped hyena
  06/28/04
IMO, yes. Your stomach is ok, her tits...less so, but still...
Comical factory reset button roast beef
  06/28/04
how about the ass? is that somewhere in between my stomach ...
exhilarant striped hyena
  06/28/04
probably not, go for the eye.
Comical factory reset button roast beef
  06/28/04
Even if it ended up in her mouth, it doesn't make any differ...
mewling den
  06/28/04
swallowing is a more intimate action.
Comical factory reset button roast beef
  06/28/04
If you finished in her mouth, that would be pretty intimate....
mewling den
  06/28/04
Only if you tell her that you love her.
fuchsia passionate ticket booth turdskin
  06/28/04
I promise to keep the encounter purely professional.
exhilarant striped hyena
  06/28/04
FBSM?
Duck-like alcoholic shitlib space
  06/28/04
Full Body Sensual Massage.
exhilarant striped hyena
  06/28/04
Fairly Benign Sensuous Massage
fuchsia passionate ticket booth turdskin
  06/28/04
I don't understand the point of a handjob when she's got a p...
Bespoke Sex Offender
  06/28/04
Correct. Women give lousy handjobs.
low-t aphrodisiac mexican school
  06/28/04
blowjobs are cheating.
Comical factory reset button roast beef
  06/28/04
I guess an interesting argument could be made that hand jobs...
stirring national
  06/28/04
only reason its not cheating in this case is bc its part of ...
marvelous yarmulke state
  06/28/04
yes, technically she was massaging the penis.
Comical factory reset button roast beef
  06/28/04
yeh
marvelous yarmulke state
  06/28/04
I think handjobs are too. And most handjobs suck. If you'r...
Bespoke Sex Offender
  06/28/04
A swirly?
cerebral self-absorbed abode
  06/28/04
I am weary of diseases. I'm a good guy. I wouldn't want to...
exhilarant striped hyena
  06/28/04
From getting a blow job? The chances are zero in one billion...
Bespoke Sex Offender
  06/28/04
Herpes?
Duck-like alcoholic shitlib space
  06/28/04
Yes.
Bespoke Sex Offender
  06/28/04
Not true. You can easily contact herpes or gonorhea through...
exhilarant striped hyena
  06/28/04
I know. But you know what I mean. We'd all be screwed if...
Bespoke Sex Offender
  06/28/04
I don't get handjobs either. If you do it yourself, not only...
Duck-like alcoholic shitlib space
  06/28/04
think: warm oil, simulated sex, DD tits in your face, finish...
exhilarant striped hyena
  06/28/04
Ok. Bon apetit!
Duck-like alcoholic shitlib space
  06/28/04
Alright sweet. So the general consensus is that it is not c...
exhilarant striped hyena
  06/28/04
Note that only guys have said it wasn't cheating. Women wou...
Soggy lodge
  06/28/04
sounds like a nice setup....not only do you get to get off n...
marvelous yarmulke state
  06/28/04
correct. you pay for the memory as much as the experience i...
exhilarant striped hyena
  06/28/04
what the fuck is going on? this is clearly cheating. not o...
Swashbuckling disgusting stead roommate
  06/28/04
she's not a hooker. she does not offer those services and n...
exhilarant striped hyena
  06/28/04
don't be so naive.
Swashbuckling disgusting stead roommate
  06/28/04
does she do anything similar for women? I've had a massage w...
Motley ruddy pozpig digit ratio
  06/28/04
yeah. same services with women but without the handjob of c...
exhilarant striped hyena
  06/28/04
i meant in place of the handjob.
Motley ruddy pozpig digit ratio
  06/28/04
probably, but I'm not sure.
exhilarant striped hyena
  06/28/04
Did you go to the Clinton book signing on Saturday? I thoug...
exhilarant striped hyena
  06/28/04
didn't get up in time...had a late dinner on friday. i hear...
Swashbuckling disgusting stead roommate
  06/28/04
he's coming to sf this week. they started giving out numbers...
Motley ruddy pozpig digit ratio
  06/28/04
yes. I actually scouted the place on Friday night at about ...
exhilarant striped hyena
  06/28/04
figures that a clinton fan wouldnt consider this cheating ...
Titillating hideous step-uncle's house
  06/28/04
I'm not really a hardcore Clintonite. My dad was a big supp...
exhilarant striped hyena
  06/28/04
so all of the guys who don't think this nastiness qualifies ...
Swashbuckling disgusting stead roommate
  06/28/04
Yes, we all don't think that this qualifies as cheating. We ...
fuchsia passionate ticket booth turdskin
  06/28/04
um, not sure i understand what you're saying - i didn't say ...
Swashbuckling disgusting stead roommate
  06/28/04
I hope you realize that this thread was merely elaborate fla...
exhilarant striped hyena
  06/28/04
well, count me as taken in by your gambit. pretty involved ...
Swashbuckling disgusting stead roommate
  06/28/04


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Date: June 28th, 2004 1:02 PM
Author: exhilarant striped hyena

I was thinking of getting a FBSM with a happy ending. Would you consider this cheating on your spouse?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830024)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:05 PM
Author: mewling den

It's all part of the massage, right? So, clearly it's not cheating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830049)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:06 PM
Author: exhilarant striped hyena

thanks. that's what i thought, but i feel better now that i've heard it from someone else. the massage is strictly for therapeutic purposes, obviously.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830063)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:08 PM
Author: Comical factory reset button roast beef

Where does the spunk go?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830078)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:09 PM
Author: mewling den

Objection.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830084)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:10 PM
Author: Comical factory reset button roast beef

Overruled.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830094)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:11 PM
Author: mewling den

You can't overrule.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830108)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:11 PM
Author: Comical factory reset button roast beef

Yes I can.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830116)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:13 PM
Author: mewling den

No you can't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830129)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:14 PM
Author: Comical factory reset button roast beef

I'll allow it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830139)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:15 PM
Author: mewling den

Thank you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830156)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:17 PM
Author: Comical factory reset button roast beef

I mean I'm allowing me to overrule.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830167)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:09 PM
Author: exhilarant striped hyena

probably on my stomach or her tits, or both. does that make any difference?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830088)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:10 PM
Author: Comical factory reset button roast beef

IMO, yes. Your stomach is ok, her tits...less so, but still passable. But if she swallows, somehow I consider it cheating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830098)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:12 PM
Author: exhilarant striped hyena

how about the ass? is that somewhere in between my stomach and her tits?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830123)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:13 PM
Author: Comical factory reset button roast beef

probably not, go for the eye.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830128)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:10 PM
Author: mewling den

Even if it ended up in her mouth, it doesn't make any difference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830102)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:11 PM
Author: Comical factory reset button roast beef

swallowing is a more intimate action.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830110)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:13 PM
Author: mewling den

If you finished in her mouth, that would be pretty intimate. However, if you finished and she then licked it all up, that's much less intimate. At that point, she's just doing housework.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830125)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:08 PM
Author: fuchsia passionate ticket booth turdskin

Only if you tell her that you love her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830079)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:10 PM
Author: exhilarant striped hyena

I promise to keep the encounter purely professional.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830097)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:09 PM
Author: Duck-like alcoholic shitlib space

FBSM?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830090)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:11 PM
Author: exhilarant striped hyena

Full Body Sensual Massage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830112)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:11 PM
Author: fuchsia passionate ticket booth turdskin

Fairly Benign Sensuous Massage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830117)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:10 PM
Author: Bespoke Sex Offender

I don't understand the point of a handjob when she's got a perfectly warm mouth. I can reach my penis with my own hand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830096)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:10 PM
Author: low-t aphrodisiac mexican school

Correct.

Women give lousy handjobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830100)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:11 PM
Author: Comical factory reset button roast beef

blowjobs are cheating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830103)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:12 PM
Author: stirring national

I guess an interesting argument could be made that hand jobs are the only form of sexual contact that isn't cheating. After all, you need another person for a kiss, a BJ or sex. But you don't need another person for a hand job, right? Therefore, if its not cheating when you do it to yourself, is it REALLY cheating when someone helps you out?

Yeah, that's a pretty weak argument.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830122)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:14 PM
Author: marvelous yarmulke state

only reason its not cheating in this case is bc its part of a massage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830136)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:15 PM
Author: Comical factory reset button roast beef

yes, technically she was massaging the penis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830146)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:15 PM
Author: marvelous yarmulke state

yeh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830148)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:14 PM
Author: Bespoke Sex Offender

I think handjobs are too. And most handjobs suck. If you're going to have another woman get you off, it might as well be because she gave you a swirly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830142)





Date: June 28th, 2004 2:03 PM
Author: cerebral self-absorbed abode

A swirly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830603)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:11 PM
Author: exhilarant striped hyena

I am weary of diseases. I'm a good guy. I wouldn't want to pass anything on to my SO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830107)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:13 PM
Author: Bespoke Sex Offender

From getting a blow job? The chances are zero in one billion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830127)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:13 PM
Author: Duck-like alcoholic shitlib space

Herpes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830133)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:15 PM
Author: Bespoke Sex Offender

Yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830149)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:15 PM
Author: exhilarant striped hyena

Not true. You can easily contact herpes or gonorhea through oral sex. And yes, a woman can have gonorhea in her mouth, especially if she is an experienced sex worker.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830155)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:27 PM
Author: Bespoke Sex Offender

I know.

But you know what I mean. We'd all be screwed if there was a decent chance that you'd get herpes from a blow job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830246)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:11 PM
Author: Duck-like alcoholic shitlib space

I don't get handjobs either. If you do it yourself, not only is it free but you can do it much better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830111)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:14 PM
Author: exhilarant striped hyena

think: warm oil, simulated sex, DD tits in your face, finish russian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830140)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:16 PM
Author: Duck-like alcoholic shitlib space

Ok.

Bon apetit!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830159)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:23 PM
Author: exhilarant striped hyena

Alright sweet. So the general consensus is that it is not cheating. I'm saving this thread as evidence in case my wife ever finds out that I received the massage.

The deal is pretty sweet I've got worked out. The massage starts out in a hottub in the woman's backyard where we "get to know each other" for awhile (30 min). Then we move to the massage table. 30 minutes of deep tissue (she's a CMT), followed by 30 minutes of FBSM for $150. I'm treating myself with the law school deposit refund I received this weekend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830212)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:25 PM
Author: Soggy lodge

Note that only guys have said it wasn't cheating. Women would probably disagree. I know I do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830222)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:29 PM
Author: marvelous yarmulke state

sounds like a nice setup....not only do you get to get off now, but you can prolly get a few months of good whacking thinking about/remembering it, as opposed to bu bulletin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830258)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:39 PM
Author: exhilarant striped hyena

correct. you pay for the memory as much as the experience itself. same with a strip club.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830370)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:25 PM
Author: Swashbuckling disgusting stead roommate

what the fuck is going on? this is clearly cheating. not only that, but it's disgusting to boot. if you really want the massage, get it, but i'd stay 50 feet away from a hooker's hot tub.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830228)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:27 PM
Author: exhilarant striped hyena

she's not a hooker. she does not offer those services and never has.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830244)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:28 PM
Author: Swashbuckling disgusting stead roommate

don't be so naive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830251)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:30 PM
Author: Motley ruddy pozpig digit ratio

does she do anything similar for women? I've had a massage where the guy massaged my breasts. A little different but clearly similar issues there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830265)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:30 PM
Author: exhilarant striped hyena

yeah. same services with women but without the handjob of course.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830276)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:32 PM
Author: Motley ruddy pozpig digit ratio

i meant in place of the handjob.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830289)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:35 PM
Author: exhilarant striped hyena

probably, but I'm not sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830323)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:29 PM
Author: exhilarant striped hyena

Did you go to the Clinton book signing on Saturday? I thought you were one of the people who were planning on going?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830255)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:29 PM
Author: Swashbuckling disgusting stead roommate

didn't get up in time...had a late dinner on friday. i heard it was an absolute mess though, practically a mob scene. did you go?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830261)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:31 PM
Author: Motley ruddy pozpig digit ratio

he's coming to sf this week. they started giving out numbers last week and his book is completely sold out everywhere. i bought it at the airport on thursday. only place i could find it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830279)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:35 PM
Author: exhilarant striped hyena

yes. I actually scouted the place on Friday night at about 11:00pm. There were only a few people camping out so I said "fuck it" and went home to catch some zzz's. Got there at 5:00 am and there was a line that was at least 2000-3000 people long. Eso Won completely mislead people. They said that there would be books available Saturday morning but they had presold the complete stock during the week. Most people left angry and disappointed. I stuck around until 12:00, and although I didn't get a book signed, I did get to shake Clinton's hand. People were going crazy trying to touch him. You would have thought the fuckin pope was in town.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830316)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:32 PM
Author: Titillating hideous step-uncle's house

figures that a clinton fan wouldnt consider this cheating

i'm j/k btw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830287)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:38 PM
Author: exhilarant striped hyena

I'm not really a hardcore Clintonite. My dad was a big supporter so I wanted to get him a signed book for his 50th birthday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830353)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:44 PM
Author: Swashbuckling disgusting stead roommate

so all of the guys who don't think this nastiness qualifies as cheating...would you be okay with your girlfriend doing this same thing? does it make a difference whether she's paying for it or just doing it with a random guy she met?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830420)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:49 PM
Author: fuchsia passionate ticket booth turdskin

Yes, we all don't think that this qualifies as cheating. We also belief that the earth is flat and that you can fall off of it if you're not careful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830471)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:53 PM
Author: Swashbuckling disgusting stead roommate

um, not sure i understand what you're saying - i didn't say that all guys don't think this qualifies as cheating. i was addressing my question to all of the guys that do feel this way, not "all guys."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830503)





Date: June 28th, 2004 1:56 PM
Author: exhilarant striped hyena

I hope you realize that this thread was merely elaborate flamebait.

But my Dad's friend did offer to take me to a massage parlor once. He told me he knew of the best places in LA to get a "happy ending".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830545)





Date: June 28th, 2004 2:02 PM
Author: Swashbuckling disgusting stead roommate

well, count me as taken in by your gambit. pretty involved for flamebait!

i'm sure it's pretty easy to find this sort of thing in LA. if i were a guy, i think it would be hard to resist the temptation to experiment once.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50665&forum_id=2#830596)