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Odious Church Building
  08/31/10
solo?
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  08/31/10
word
Odious Church Building
  08/31/10
how long you been practicing? biggest retainer yet? how many...
Glassy Wonderful Bbw
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about a year, 5K, about 30 open cases
Odious Church Building
  08/31/10
do you do any appointed work? how do you get your clients? d...
Glassy Wonderful Bbw
  08/31/10
no, you have to work a certain amount of time to get court a...
Odious Church Building
  08/31/10
quick, how many 2254s have you won?
Ebony Hyperventilating Messiness Area
  08/31/10
I know that most criminal defense lawyers who do minor stuff...
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  08/31/10
work in a crim defense firm that takes cases to trial, you c...
Odious Church Building
  08/31/10
SUMMON: SHITLAW STEVE
at-the-ready genital piercing
  08/31/10
best white-collar crimes (profitable, easy to get away with)...
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  08/31/10
don't do white collar crimes, that's more biglaw/midlaw
Odious Church Building
  08/31/10
Did you go solo out of necessity or was that the plan all al...
lascivious slimy dragon private investor
  08/31/10
the plan was ADA, so i guess out of necessity. try to have s...
Odious Church Building
  08/31/10
Do still want to be a prosecutor? Or was the plan to ADA it ...
lascivious slimy dragon private investor
  08/31/10
plan was to go private after 10 years, after IBR discharged ...
Odious Church Building
  08/31/10
What's your opinion of the public defender's office, dawg
titillating spruce box office
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in comparison to some of their guys i am a maggot. but compa...
Odious Church Building
  08/31/10
Biggest charge you've gotten a person you believed to be gui...
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  08/31/10
off completely? drug w/intent to sell
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yea of course, you need to so you can get sweeter deals for ...
Odious Church Building
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Fuchsia Comical Address
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because they don't give a shit about their 'clients' (for th...
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Fuchsia Comical Address
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how often would the usao deal with state pds? never?
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DC USAO. And to answer the earlier question, DC PDS is just ...
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  09/01/10
t14 ite-pwned?
at-the-ready genital piercing
  08/31/10
also, have u taken shit all the way thru trial? how did u le...
at-the-ready genital piercing
  08/31/10
no, i've been able to work favorable deals for all my client...
Odious Church Building
  08/31/10
how did u learn what you know about the practice? other atto...
at-the-ready genital piercing
  08/31/10
books and other attorneys 'crim law and procedure' is godsen...
Odious Church Building
  08/31/10
t20
Odious Church Building
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Fuchsia Comical Address
  08/31/10
yes, child rape. i took the case anyway and got the guy the ...
Odious Church Building
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Fuchsia Comical Address
  08/31/10
felt fine, the way i saw it if i didn't do it someone else w...
Odious Church Building
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"if i didn't do it someone else would" That's a...
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what r u supposed to do if you honestly believe the guy is g...
at-the-ready genital piercing
  08/31/10
A criminal defendant can't be compelled to testify against h...
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  08/31/10
there's nothing wrong with thinking that your client is guil...
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client doesn't have to testify, so there is no problem with ...
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Fuchsia Comical Address
  08/31/10
ADAs only
Odious Church Building
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  08/31/10
i'm on my own, but i know many more experienced lawyers do a...
Odious Church Building
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Fuchsia Comical Address
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i don't yet but i'm thinking summer 2011 i'll start
violet stain indirect expression
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Fuchsia Comical Address
  08/31/10
maybe but college kids get to walk all the time
violet stain indirect expression
  08/31/10
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Fuchsia Comical Address
  08/31/10
i did watch it, who was levy again?
violet stain indirect expression
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Fuchsia Comical Address
  08/31/10
he was a fucking baller
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Fuchsia Comical Address
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he was on the ethics committee wtf
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how did you get your first few clients? how did you manage n...
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  08/31/10
referrals basically senior crim D lawyers sent them my way w...
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  08/31/10
Seriously considering doing solo crim D right after law scho...
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  08/31/10
for appearances, anywhere from $50-200 depending on the lawy...
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  08/31/10
Thx for doing this. So how many months did it take before...
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  08/31/10
income/projected income from first 12 months of being solo? ...
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how do appearances work? does the attorney your appearing...
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:41 PM
Author: Odious Church Building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931248)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:43 PM
Author: Glassy Wonderful Bbw

solo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931260)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:44 PM
Author: Odious Church Building

word

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931266)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:46 PM
Author: Glassy Wonderful Bbw

how long you been practicing? biggest retainer yet? how many cases are you currently working?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931272)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:51 PM
Author: Odious Church Building

about a year, 5K, about 30 open cases

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931296)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:52 PM
Author: Glassy Wonderful Bbw

do you do any appointed work? how do you get your clients? do you have office space?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931311)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:55 PM
Author: Odious Church Building

no, you have to work a certain amount of time to get court appointed work, mostly referrals from other attorneys. shared office space with some other attys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931338)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:46 PM
Author: Ebony Hyperventilating Messiness Area

quick, how many 2254s have you won?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931275)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:46 PM
Author: french curious people who are hurt windowlicker

I know that most criminal defense lawyers who do minor stuff are absolutely incompetent, but assuming someone wanted to become competent prior to going solo in crim work, how would one go about it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931273)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:52 PM
Author: Odious Church Building

work in a crim defense firm that takes cases to trial, you can quickly learn who the top crim lawyers in your city are, try to work for one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931305)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:53 PM
Author: at-the-ready genital piercing

SUMMON: SHITLAW STEVE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931318)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:53 PM
Author: Stimulating jade hospital macaca

best white-collar crimes (profitable, easy to get away with)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931319)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:56 PM
Author: Odious Church Building

don't do white collar crimes, that's more biglaw/midlaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931341)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:55 PM
Author: lascivious slimy dragon private investor

Did you go solo out of necessity or was that the plan all along?

Also, any tips on surviving the first six months, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931333)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:56 PM
Author: Odious Church Building

the plan was ADA, so i guess out of necessity. try to have some money saved so you can pay your bills/eat while you wait for clients to roll in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931348)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:58 PM
Author: lascivious slimy dragon private investor

Do still want to be a prosecutor? Or was the plan to ADA it for a while then switch to crim d?

How did you hustle for clients in the beginning?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931364)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:00 PM
Author: Odious Church Building

plan was to go private after 10 years, after IBR discharged my loans. so i still want to go to be ADA for 10 years, then go back to private

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931370)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:56 PM
Author: titillating spruce box office

What's your opinion of the public defender's office, dawg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931347)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:57 PM
Author: Odious Church Building

in comparison to some of their guys i am a maggot. but compared to many i am def a better deal for my clients.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931355)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:56 PM
Author: Contagious orange background story

Biggest charge you've gotten a person you believed to be guilty off on?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931349)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:58 PM
Author: Odious Church Building

off completely? drug w/intent to sell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931360)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:56 PM
Author: Fuchsia Comical Address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931351)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:59 PM
Author: Odious Church Building

yea of course, you need to so you can get sweeter deals for your clients. it's amazing how arbitrary ADAs are when it comes to offers. if they like you personally they'll do a lot for your clients.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931367)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:00 PM
Author: Fuchsia Comical Address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931369)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:00 PM
Author: Odious Church Building

because they don't give a shit about their 'clients' (for the most part) and btw ime many of them do get along with ADAs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931376)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:02 PM
Author: Fuchsia Comical Address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931391)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:10 PM
Author: Ebony Hyperventilating Messiness Area

how often would the usao deal with state pds? never?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931474)



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Date: September 1st, 2010 12:14 AM
Author: greedy menage gaming laptop

DC USAO. And to answer the earlier question, DC PDS is just very... fervent in their beliefs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15936370)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:57 PM
Author: at-the-ready genital piercing

t14 ite-pwned?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931354)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:00 PM
Author: at-the-ready genital piercing

also, have u taken shit all the way thru trial? how did u learn to do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931374)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:01 PM
Author: Odious Church Building

no, i've been able to work favorable deals for all my clients so far.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931383)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:02 PM
Author: at-the-ready genital piercing

how did u learn what you know about the practice? other attorneys help u? did u get books on it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931392)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:04 PM
Author: Odious Church Building

books and other attorneys 'crim law and procedure' is godsent, also DUI bible, but mostly other attorneys. i just make small talk and ask them how i do something if they seem nice, or i listen while they negotiate, and observe how they handle issues

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931404)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:01 PM
Author: Odious Church Building

t20

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931381)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:01 PM
Author: Fuchsia Comical Address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931380)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:02 PM
Author: Odious Church Building

yes, child rape. i took the case anyway and got the guy the best deal i could

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931389)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:03 PM
Author: Fuchsia Comical Address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931399)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:04 PM
Author: Odious Church Building

felt fine, the way i saw it if i didn't do it someone else would, this guy was entitled to proper representation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931410)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:06 PM
Author: sticky tan candlestick maker school

"if i didn't do it someone else would"

That's a bullshit excuse

"this guy was entitled to proper representation"

That's a legitimate reason.

Just my opinion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931433)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:09 PM
Author: at-the-ready genital piercing

what r u supposed to do if you honestly believe the guy is guilty (even tho he claims innocence)? also, what is the procedure if the guy confesses to you (but not to the state)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931464)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:11 PM
Author: sticky tan candlestick maker school

A criminal defendant can't be compelled to testify against himself, so you don't have to worry as much about perjury.

*knows nothing about criminal law*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931487)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:16 PM
Author: Glassy Wonderful Bbw

there's nothing wrong with thinking that your client is guilty, but if you know that he is guilty you cant (read: arent supposed to) present perjured testimony. it's fine if he doesnt testify.

MPRE FTW

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931539)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:43 PM
Author: violet stain indirect expression

client doesn't have to testify, so there is no problem with picking apart the prosecution's case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933194)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:06 PM
Author: Fuchsia Comical Address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931428)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:07 PM
Author: Odious Church Building

ADAs only

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931443)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:07 PM
Author: Fuchsia Comical Address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931451)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:08 PM
Author: Odious Church Building

i'm on my own, but i know many more experienced lawyers do a lot of fed work. some specialize in child porn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931461)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:09 PM
Author: Fuchsia Comical Address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931468)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:43 PM
Author: violet stain indirect expression

i don't yet but i'm thinking summer 2011 i'll start

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933200)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:47 PM
Author: Fuchsia Comical Address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933222)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:52 PM
Author: violet stain indirect expression

maybe but college kids get to walk all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933274)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:11 PM
Author: Fuchsia Comical Address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931485)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:44 PM
Author: violet stain indirect expression

i did watch it, who was levy again?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933202)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:46 PM
Author: Fuchsia Comical Address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933213)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:48 PM
Author: violet stain indirect expression

he was a fucking baller

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933229)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:49 PM
Author: Fuchsia Comical Address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933241)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:52 PM
Author: violet stain indirect expression

he was on the ethics committee wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933266)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:56 PM
Author: Fuchsia Comical Address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933302)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:17 PM
Author: Jet church associate

how did you get your first few clients? how did you manage not to fuck up? how worried were you that you would fuck up?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931560)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:45 PM
Author: violet stain indirect expression

referrals basically senior crim D lawyers sent them my way when the guys told them they could not afford their retainers. i met the crim D lawyers by first making appearances for them little shit like that. i was EXTREMELY worried but with the proper guide books and guides it's really not so hard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933209)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:58 PM
Author: Elite Internet-worthy Electric Furnace Striped Hyena

Seriously considering doing solo crim D right after law school.

How much do you get to do "appearances?"

How much did you have saved up before starting? (you can put it in # of months expenses b/c that'll make more sense to me)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933325)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 8:01 PM
Author: violet stain indirect expression

for appearances, anywhere from $50-200 depending on the lawyer and the purpose

i had about four months worth of expenses saved up, i ended up maxing out my credit cards before i had enough clients/work to pay my own expenses. halfway to paying them back down now, have a pretty solid flow of work coming in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933360)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 8:03 PM
Author: Elite Internet-worthy Electric Furnace Striped Hyena

Thx for doing this.

So how many months did it take before you had positive cash flow?

How many connections did you have within your legal community when you began? How did you make new connections?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933372)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 8:35 PM
Author: Swollen Regret Brunch

income/projected income from first 12 months of being solo? projected for second 12 months (aka year 2)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933658)



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Date: August 31st, 2010 11:06 PM
Author: Swashbuckling telephone masturbator

how do appearances work? does the attorney your appearing for still charge his normal rate?

how easy/hard is it to represent someone for simple drug possession?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15935416)



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Date: September 1st, 2010 12:20 AM
Author: greedy menage gaming laptop

Ever hire an investigator?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15936421)