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bateful shrine
  09/06/10
what is the most prestigious hedge fund investment strategy
insanely creepy windowlicker market
  09/06/10
some sort of activist strategy
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
Best firms that do this other than harbinger. Tyia.
seedy affirmative action pocket flask
  09/06/10
Pershing Square
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
Anyone else?
seedy affirmative action pocket flask
  09/06/10
what percentage of people in the industry display sociopathi...
amethyst property
  09/06/10
>0%
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
your 5 favorite hedge funds currently?
Mildly autistic national security agency hospital
  09/06/10
greenlight third point pershing square lightspeed golden...
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
never heard of golden tree. are they in nyc? daniel loeb...
Costumed Galvanic Heaven Kitty
  09/06/10
yes. high yield / distressed / cap structure arb manager ...
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
do you know people who work at any of those firms? are they ...
Mildly autistic national security agency hospital
  09/06/10
not personally but professionally i do. yes they are. you're...
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
would you say >20%?
amethyst property
  09/06/10
no
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
Thoughts on TEH JEWS's overbearing financial ponzi scheme?
sinister dashing locus
  09/06/10
You give the jews way too much credit
puce swashbuckling hunting ground
  09/06/10
they definitely "won", that's for sure
sinister dashing locus
  09/06/10
Top finance places have just as many asians as jews, and mor...
puce swashbuckling hunting ground
  09/06/10
jew?
Sick sanctuary
  09/06/10
should I make myself a lemonade or a limeade?
Thriller Theater
  09/06/10
when life gives you lemons make limeade
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
*nods*
Thriller Theater
  09/06/10
Do teh jews actually sacrifice goats and drink their blood r...
sinister dashing locus
  09/06/10
What's the minimum LP commitment an individual has to make t...
Topaz roommate
  09/06/10
"halfway decent fund" is really open to interpreta...
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
For your own money, would you rather put $1 million into a h...
Topaz roommate
  09/06/10
it would depend on the strategy of the hedge fund
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
how about merg arb?
Topaz roommate
  09/06/10
VERY INTERESTING! I think a) lower interest rates plus b)...
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
What do hedge fund guys invest in? Do you guys just dump al...
Topaz roommate
  09/06/10
well, i think it's common for the founders to have like 98% ...
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
Cool, thanks.
Topaz roommate
  09/06/10
what do you want to do when we hang out?
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
IDK, what do you want to do
Topaz roommate
  09/06/10
what do u think of ucits?
fuchsia massive casino
  09/06/10
im not european
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
What do you do?
Azure faggot firefighter persian
  09/06/10
fuck black women hth
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
How did you become an HF expert?
Azure faggot firefighter persian
  09/06/10
what should hurdle rates be tied to?
odious fantasy-prone circlehead
  09/06/10
t-bill plus say 200 to 300 basis points is quite common. do...
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
libor
odious fantasy-prone circlehead
  09/06/10
not for a fund fallng under the "absolute return" ...
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
do you favor convertible or statistical arb?
odious fantasy-prone circlehead
  09/06/10
convertible arb, for sure. stat arb is one of those thing...
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
are you conflating stat arb with the martingale betting syst...
odious fantasy-prone circlehead
  09/06/10
can you hide a row in Excel without getting help? lol j/k...
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
y would i ever use excel? seriously?
odious fantasy-prone circlehead
  09/06/10
man idk sometimes i just like to ask questions
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
what are the 2 inputs to determine the theoretical value of ...
odious fantasy-prone circlehead
  09/06/10
there are more than two: time in/out of the money volatil...
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
ding! price of the underlier. it is monotonically incre...
odious fantasy-prone circlehead
  09/06/10
price of the underlier = in/out of the money
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
do you understand "implied" volatility?
odious fantasy-prone circlehead
  09/06/10
uh, yeah. whats the issue here, chief?
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
equities vs. cash vs. bonds? what's a good ratio mix at t...
zippy clown
  09/06/10
depends on your time horizon as in when you need the money b...
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
whats the possibility of transferring from an economic consu...
Mind-boggling brunch
  09/06/10
is your work more microecon focused?
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
ya
Mind-boggling brunch
  09/06/10
definitely. it's not impossible depending on how you presen...
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
cool, thanks man what strategies do you think would be mo...
Mind-boggling brunch
  09/06/10
depending on the sort of stuff you're doing now: equity lon...
bateful shrine
  09/06/10
seems reasonable thanks man
Mind-boggling brunch
  09/06/10
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Nubile exciting theater stage
  06/22/11


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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:27 PM
Author: bateful shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980046)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:27 PM
Author: insanely creepy windowlicker market

what is the most prestigious hedge fund investment strategy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980056)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:30 PM
Author: bateful shrine

some sort of activist strategy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980085)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 7:51 PM
Author: seedy affirmative action pocket flask

Best firms that do this other than harbinger. Tyia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981427)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:04 PM
Author: bateful shrine

Pershing Square

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981552)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:30 PM
Author: seedy affirmative action pocket flask

Anyone else?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981764)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:30 PM
Author: amethyst property

what percentage of people in the industry display sociopathic traits?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980086)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:31 PM
Author: bateful shrine

>0%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980094)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:32 PM
Author: Mildly autistic national security agency hospital

your 5 favorite hedge funds currently?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980106)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:34 PM
Author: bateful shrine

greenlight

third point

pershing square

lightspeed

golden tree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980123)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:35 PM
Author: Costumed Galvanic Heaven Kitty

never heard of golden tree. are they in nyc?

daniel loeb is a 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980134)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:37 PM
Author: bateful shrine

yes. high yield / distressed / cap structure arb manager

http://www.goldentree.com/index.cfm?sID=1315&cID=6319

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980152)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:39 PM
Author: Mildly autistic national security agency hospital

do you know people who work at any of those firms? are they super bright?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980171)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:42 PM
Author: bateful shrine

not personally but professionally i do. yes they are. you're also pretty bright too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980195)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:34 PM
Author: amethyst property

would you say >20%?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980129)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:39 PM
Author: bateful shrine

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980170)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:33 PM
Author: sinister dashing locus

Thoughts on TEH JEWS's overbearing financial ponzi scheme?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980111)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:34 PM
Author: puce swashbuckling hunting ground

You give the jews way too much credit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980119)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:35 PM
Author: sinister dashing locus

they definitely "won", that's for sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980135)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:36 PM
Author: puce swashbuckling hunting ground

Top finance places have just as many asians as jews, and more wasps than either. Those people kick ass, but giving jews all the credit for it is lame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980144)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:33 PM
Author: Sick sanctuary

jew?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980112)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:37 PM
Author: Thriller Theater

should I make myself a lemonade or a limeade?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980156)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:39 PM
Author: bateful shrine

when life gives you lemons make limeade

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980172)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:40 PM
Author: Thriller Theater

*nods*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980178)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 5:46 PM
Author: sinister dashing locus

Do teh jews actually sacrifice goats and drink their blood right before quarterly earnings are announced?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980218)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 6:48 PM
Author: Topaz roommate

What's the minimum LP commitment an individual has to make to get into a halfway decent fund? $1 million?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980806)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 6:59 PM
Author: bateful shrine

"halfway decent fund" is really open to interpretation.

id say for a decent established fund (like the ones I mentioned), yeah at least $1mm. of course sometimes feeder funds offer you to ability to invest with those managers at much lower minimums.

there are also newer managers hungry for capital who are probably open to lower LP commitments too but i think they're very hard to find without decent contacts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15980928)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 7:41 PM
Author: Topaz roommate

For your own money, would you rather put $1 million into a halfway decent hedge fund or a halfway decent pe fund?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981337)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:02 PM
Author: bateful shrine

it would depend on the strategy of the hedge fund

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981532)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:35 PM
Author: Topaz roommate

how about merg arb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981801)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:43 PM
Author: bateful shrine

VERY INTERESTING!

I think a) lower interest rates plus b) excess cash on balances sheets will lead to more deals being done. But are the spreads going to be there? I guess so man, I guess so because my sense is that peepLOL are still nervous about the economy, foreign debt defaults, insert cause of moment here. So if you can find a skilled manager in that space (Kellner Cohen DiLeo comes to mind as a "pure" merger arb manager but a lot of managers invest in merger arb as more "Event Driven" approach) I think the returns can be quite attractive with low correlation to equities overall. I just wouldn't invest money I need back in the next say 2 -3 years or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981871)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:46 PM
Author: Topaz roommate

What do hedge fund guys invest in? Do you guys just dump all your money into your fund (do you have opporunities to leverage up the investment?) Or do you do the opposite due to correlation between bonus and fund performance and put everything in cash?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981899)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:52 PM
Author: bateful shrine

well, i think it's common for the founders to have like 98% of the liquid net worth invested in their own fund. that's a big red flag if the owners dont have any skin in the game. so they can leverage that in sofaras the fund itself is leveraged overall but i dont think you can invest in a hedge fund "on margin" per say. this is also pretty common for staff (more senior analysts, traders,head of ops, etc) that meet the SEC standards for qualified investors. it's also not uncommon to see accounts for family members managed in perhaps a seperately managed account style e.g. put highest conviction long idea into an ira for your wife, for example.

other than that i think it varies individual to individual. i would like to think a lot stick to index funds but who knows?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981957)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:53 PM
Author: Topaz roommate

Cool, thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981967)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:58 PM
Author: bateful shrine

what do you want to do when we hang out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15982006)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 9:03 PM
Author: Topaz roommate

IDK, what do you want to do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15982052)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 7:54 PM
Author: fuchsia massive casino

what do u think of ucits?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981456)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:02 PM
Author: bateful shrine

im not european

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981538)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:35 PM
Author: Azure faggot firefighter persian

What do you do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981797)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:44 PM
Author: bateful shrine

fuck black women hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981877)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:45 PM
Author: Azure faggot firefighter persian

How did you become an HF expert?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981893)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:35 PM
Author: odious fantasy-prone circlehead

what should hurdle rates be tied to?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981803)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:44 PM
Author: bateful shrine

t-bill plus say 200 to 300 basis points is quite common. does that make the most sense? i think itdoes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981881)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:45 PM
Author: odious fantasy-prone circlehead

libor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981894)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:46 PM
Author: bateful shrine

not for a fund fallng under the "absolute return" umbrella

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981907)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:53 PM
Author: odious fantasy-prone circlehead

do you favor convertible or statistical arb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981968)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:58 PM
Author: bateful shrine

convertible arb, for sure.

stat arb is one of those things that works up until it doesnt (like your del sol, no?). plus it tends to be more of a "black box" strategy which makes me uncomfortable. convert arb is more fundamentally based and i think it's easier to understand the risk/reward associated with it. stat arb goes to shiTTT in periods of high stress ala end of 2008.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15982001)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:59 PM
Author: odious fantasy-prone circlehead

are you conflating stat arb with the martingale betting system?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15982015)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 9:04 PM
Author: bateful shrine

can you hide a row in Excel without getting help?

lol j/k bro. from what i understand they have things in common sure. but each fund has their own little twists,etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15982054)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 9:08 PM
Author: odious fantasy-prone circlehead

y would i ever use excel? seriously?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15982081)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 9:11 PM
Author: bateful shrine

man idk sometimes i just like to ask questions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15982099)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 9:13 PM
Author: odious fantasy-prone circlehead

what are the 2 inputs to determine the theoretical value of an option? hint: volatility is one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15982119)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 9:18 PM
Author: bateful shrine

there are more than two:

time

in/out of the money

volatility

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15982159)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 9:20 PM
Author: odious fantasy-prone circlehead

ding!

price of the underlier.

it is monotonically increasing function of sigma (estimate of future volatility).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15982172)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 9:22 PM
Author: bateful shrine

price of the underlier = in/out of the money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15982189)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 9:23 PM
Author: odious fantasy-prone circlehead

do you understand "implied" volatility?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15982196)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 9:25 PM
Author: bateful shrine

uh, yeah. whats the issue here, chief?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15982212)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:36 PM
Author: zippy clown

equities vs. cash vs. bonds?

what's a good ratio mix at the top of your head?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981813)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:45 PM
Author: bateful shrine

depends on your time horizon as in when you need the money back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981890)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:55 PM
Author: Mind-boggling brunch

whats the possibility of transferring from an economic consultant (top firm) to a hedge fund analyst position after a year at the consultancy?

target ivy ug, would likely meet any grade cutoffs though not stellar grades

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15981988)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 9:01 PM
Author: bateful shrine

is your work more microecon focused?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15982030)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 9:03 PM
Author: Mind-boggling brunch

ya

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15982048)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 9:07 PM
Author: bateful shrine

definitely. it's not impossible depending on how you present yourself and the strategy of the fund. some may be interested. some may be not because of no IB background



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15982069)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 9:08 PM
Author: Mind-boggling brunch

cool, thanks man

what strategies do you think would be most receptive to this sort of background

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15982080)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 9:12 PM
Author: bateful shrine

depending on the sort of stuff you're doing now:

equity long / short that is bottoms up focused

merger arb / event driven if you do a lot of antitrust work

distressed debt if you do a lot of restructuring work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15982111)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 9:32 PM
Author: Mind-boggling brunch

seems reasonable

thanks man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#15982264)



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Date: June 22nd, 2011 11:02 PM
Author: Nubile exciting theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1416099&forum_id=2#18321082)