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is my gf getting too fat?

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Burgundy 180 knife rigor
  07/16/20
Good waist to hip ratio, seems like excess carbs go to her t...
multi-colored rough-skinned pervert corn cake
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rebellious house
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Burgundy 180 knife rigor
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rebellious house
  07/16/20
I approve of this THICK slam piece
Carnelian racy pit
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Sooty crackhouse
  07/16/20
It's hard to tell without frontal view.
hairraiser business firm sound barrier
  07/16/20
i likka girl you can hold'a on to
Electric coldplay fan
  07/16/20
Cellulite is an atrocious creation of Satan
Amethyst ape set
  07/16/20
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Primrose razzmatazz trailer park
  07/16/20
hideous ass. Put her on the RP diet app and a strength train...
titillating black woman
  07/16/20
(Guy with extremely low T)
jet vigorous legal warrant
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Lilac Dilemma Mediation
  07/16/20
How hard is she trending? Right now, no I think she looks go...
Crystalline psychic
  07/16/20
Yes
Primrose razzmatazz trailer park
  07/16/20
She was getting too fat 30 lbs ago.
Hairless Arousing Piazza
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titillating black woman
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Brindle fragrant place of business
  07/16/20
Shouldn’t you have poasted this in the “Big chan...
mentally impaired twinkling uncleanness
  07/16/20
If you have to ask...
motley forum selfie
  07/16/20
Yeah, it's sort of gross. She's at the point where you'll be...
Odious cruel-hearted market ladyboy
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Burgundy 180 knife rigor
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rebellious house
  07/16/20
I've poasted plenty of pics of my slampieces before. Not doi...
Odious cruel-hearted market ladyboy
  07/16/20
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Burgundy 180 knife rigor
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titillating black woman
  07/16/20
The good news is that, with an ass like that, you will have ...
Bossy Zippy Old Irish Cottage Famous Landscape Painting
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Godawful amber gas station pocket flask
  07/16/20
Those are childbearing hips. Put a baby in her.
Glittery maize really tough guy senate
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Chocolate effete theater blood rage
  07/16/20
she's 35, it's done
orchid athletic conference pozpig
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Snowy aggressive address roast beef
  07/17/20
alarmingly low t-levels in this thread
Sooty crackhouse
  07/16/20
recently tested in the very low 800s, I think she's WAY too ...
titillating black woman
  07/16/20
She isn't fat. She looks like a woman.
Sooty crackhouse
  07/16/20
*a fat woman
titillating black woman
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walnut stimulating resort incel
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Chocolate effete theater blood rage
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Self-absorbed nubile roommate corner
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Self-absorbed nubile roommate corner
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Slap-happy space brethren
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jet vigorous legal warrant
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Buck-toothed cowardly institution
  07/16/20
I approve. But she also looks like one of those women whose ...
mauve national security agency
  07/16/20
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Burgundy 180 knife rigor
  07/16/20
put her on a well managed calorie deficit (again rec RP diet...
titillating black woman
  07/16/20
She is doing great.
hairraiser business firm sound barrier
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Self-absorbed nubile roommate corner
  07/16/20
That’s damn good, then, but the transformation is unde...
mauve national security agency
  07/16/20
Very nice
Chocolate effete theater blood rage
  07/16/20
Yes
medicated sanctuary
  07/16/20
this is a good ass. ljl at the low-t cumskin dorks in here.
Electric coldplay fan
  07/16/20
180 moniker, 120 take: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?t...
titillating black woman
  07/16/20
look at her waist brother. i'm not going to say this is the ...
Electric coldplay fan
  07/16/20
Towards the heavy end of hot right now. Trouble ahead. Ed...
Cream charismatic site
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For 35+ yr old white women, that is at least top 90th percen...
rebellious house
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Electric coldplay fan
  07/16/20
"For 35+ yr old white women" So the equivalent ...
Odious cruel-hearted market ladyboy
  07/16/20
Thats her age bracket. Also why its best to stay away from w...
rebellious house
  07/16/20
*American
irradiated boistinker locus
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irradiated boistinker locus
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irradiated boistinker locus
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Slap-happy space brethren
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lots of homos ITT
tripping cracking den personal credit line
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buff jap spot
  07/16/20
yeah, ATD and then give me her number
buff jap spot
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Carnelian racy pit
  07/17/20
In my opinion yes, but I can still respect and understand so...
olive aromatic travel guidebook
  07/16/20
she’s an angel. congrats
overrated rigpig
  07/16/20
need more pics to be sure
Drunken alpha
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tripping cracking den personal credit line
  07/16/20
yeah gross. not a bubble butt, more like a rhombus butt.
gaped cuck meetinghouse
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It’s hard to evaluate online. Can I fuck her in person...
excitant frisky background story range
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Burgundy 180 knife rigor
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https://i.redd.it/5tx3hi8akoa51.jpg
excitant frisky background story range
  07/17/20
wtf is up with that guy's hand
tripping cracking den personal credit line
  07/19/20
We need a front pic pumo brother
Self-absorbed nubile roommate corner
  07/16/20
Need front pic with spread labia plz
Snowy aggressive address roast beef
  07/17/20
she's getting legit fat but that's a 180 waist to hip ratio
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rebellious house
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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:36 PM
Author: Burgundy 180 knife rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618199)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:46 PM
Author: multi-colored rough-skinned pervert corn cake

Good waist to hip ratio, seems like excess carbs go to her thighs, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Nothing some squats can’t fix.

FYA, I like a girl with meat on her bones, and I think your gf is at an optimal size.

More pics?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618246)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:46 PM
Author: rebellious house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618248)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:50 PM
Author: Burgundy 180 knife rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618267)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:01 PM
Author: rebellious house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618331)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:26 PM
Author: Carnelian racy pit

I approve of this THICK slam piece

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618479)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:39 PM
Author: Sooty crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618535)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:44 PM
Author: hairraiser business firm sound barrier

It's hard to tell without frontal view.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618846)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:57 PM
Author: Electric coldplay fan

i likka girl you can hold'a on to

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618620)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:48 PM
Author: Amethyst ape set

Cellulite is an atrocious creation of Satan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618259)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:00 PM
Author: Primrose razzmatazz trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618328)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:50 PM
Author: titillating black woman

hideous ass. Put her on the RP diet app and a strength training program.

getting her lean will help tremendously.

rest of her looks ok from that angle, but odds are she has some stomach fat too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618264)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:29 PM
Author: jet vigorous legal warrant

(Guy with extremely low T)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619318)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:31 PM
Author: Lilac Dilemma Mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619329)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:50 PM
Author: Crystalline psychic

How hard is she trending? Right now, no I think she looks good. But things could go fat quickly from here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618270)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:00 PM
Author: Primrose razzmatazz trailer park

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618319)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:00 PM
Author: Hairless Arousing Piazza

She was getting too fat 30 lbs ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618324)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:33 PM
Author: titillating black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618500)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:07 PM
Author: Brindle fragrant place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619223)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:02 PM
Author: mentally impaired twinkling uncleanness

Shouldn’t you have poasted this in the “Big changes” thread?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618342)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:07 PM
Author: motley forum selfie

If you have to ask...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618372)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:13 PM
Author: Odious cruel-hearted market ladyboy

Yeah, it's sort of gross. She's at the point where you'll be reaching for solid handholds when slamming her and your fingers just sink in . . .massive boner killer. Maybe it's just bad lighting but it looks like she has cellulite and maybe even stretch marks. Would be at least somewhat more acceptable with a smooth complexion.

The good thing is that she's keeping all of her fat in her legs and ass so she'll look really good if she drops some of the weight. At least you aren't dealing with a pear shaped chick. I'd say 10 lbs off would go a long way (assuming she's a spinner, if she's like 5'10 she might need to drop 15-20).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618403)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:15 PM
Author: Burgundy 180 knife rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618415)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:18 PM
Author: rebellious house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618433)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:35 PM
Author: Odious cruel-hearted market ladyboy

I've poasted plenty of pics of my slampieces before. Not doing it in this environment. I've fucked something like 10-12 chicks in the last 2-3 years or so, and all but one had much better bodies than your gf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618508)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:45 PM
Author: Burgundy 180 knife rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618558)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:34 PM
Author: titillating black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618504)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:18 PM
Author: Bossy Zippy Old Irish Cottage Famous Landscape Painting

The good news is that, with an ass like that, you will have no trouble finding a black bull to take care of her needs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618428)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:18 PM
Author: Godawful amber gas station pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618432)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:30 PM
Author: Glittery maize really tough guy senate

Those are childbearing hips. Put a baby in her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618492)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:49 PM
Author: Chocolate effete theater blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618578)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:09 PM
Author: orchid athletic conference pozpig

she's 35, it's done

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619231)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:21 AM
Author: Snowy aggressive address roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40620733)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:33 PM
Author: Sooty crackhouse

alarmingly low t-levels in this thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618503)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:37 PM
Author: titillating black woman

recently tested in the very low 800s, I think she's WAY too fat

try finding another cope for liking fat chicks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618519)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:39 PM
Author: Sooty crackhouse

She isn't fat. She looks like a woman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618533)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:53 PM
Author: titillating black woman

*a fat woman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618598)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 7:01 PM
Author: walnut stimulating resort incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619471)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:49 PM
Author: Chocolate effete theater blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618579)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 5:56 PM
Author: Self-absorbed nubile roommate corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619168)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 5:56 PM
Author: Self-absorbed nubile roommate corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619170)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:16 PM
Author: Slap-happy space brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619261)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:30 PM
Author: jet vigorous legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619322)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:50 PM
Author: Buck-toothed cowardly institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619426)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:45 PM
Author: mauve national security agency

I approve. But she also looks like one of those women whose asses could morph into where she looks like a completely different person as she hits mid 30s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618559)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:52 PM
Author: Burgundy 180 knife rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618590)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:54 PM
Author: titillating black woman

put her on a well managed calorie deficit (again rec RP diet app for this) and a decent strength/hypertrophy combo lifting program, and in a year she will be top 10% of age group if not better. situation is not hopeless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618606)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:58 PM
Author: hairraiser business firm sound barrier

She is doing great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618624)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 5:56 PM
Author: Self-absorbed nubile roommate corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619172)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:48 PM
Author: mauve national security agency

That’s damn good, then, but the transformation is underway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619415)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:49 PM
Author: Chocolate effete theater blood rage

Very nice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618577)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:50 PM
Author: medicated sanctuary

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618583)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:58 PM
Author: Electric coldplay fan

this is a good ass. ljl at the low-t cumskin dorks in here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618626)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:59 PM
Author: titillating black woman

180 moniker, 120 take: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618519

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618630)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:11 PM
Author: Electric coldplay fan

look at her waist brother. i'm not going to say this is the poster child for the perfect ass, but it is 162.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618680)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:12 PM
Author: Cream charismatic site

Towards the heavy end of hot right now. Trouble ahead.

Edit: Her ass is nice, but those thighs are starting to bulge. You need to get that under control ASAP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618690)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:20 PM
Author: rebellious house

For 35+ yr old white women, that is at least top 90th percentile ass. Just don't let her slip

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618722)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:21 PM
Author: Electric coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618726)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:31 PM
Author: Odious cruel-hearted market ladyboy

"For 35+ yr old white women"

So the equivalent of silver medal in the special olympics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618773)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:35 PM
Author: rebellious house

Thats her age bracket. Also why its best to stay away from white women

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618789)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:38 PM
Author: irradiated boistinker locus

*American

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618803)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:38 PM
Author: irradiated boistinker locus

*American

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618809)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:37 PM
Author: irradiated boistinker locus

*American

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618801)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:16 PM
Author: Slap-happy space brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619262)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:30 PM
Author: tripping cracking den personal credit line

lots of homos ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618764)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 5:51 PM
Author: buff jap spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619147)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:38 PM
Author: buff jap spot

yeah, ATD and then give me her number

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618808)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 5:35 AM
Author: Carnelian racy pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40621162)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:45 PM
Author: olive aromatic travel guidebook

In my opinion yes, but I can still respect and understand someone being attracted to her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618854)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 5:53 PM
Author: overrated rigpig

she’s an angel. congrats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619157)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 5:55 PM
Author: Drunken alpha

need more pics to be sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619164)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:11 PM
Author: tripping cracking den personal credit line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619239)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:11 PM
Author: gaped cuck meetinghouse

yeah gross. not a bubble butt, more like a rhombus butt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619245)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:13 PM
Author: excitant frisky background story range

It’s hard to evaluate online. Can I fuck her in person and let you know?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619249)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:23 PM
Author: Burgundy 180 knife rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619297)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 1:20 AM
Author: excitant frisky background story range

https://i.redd.it/5tx3hi8akoa51.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40620925)



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Date: July 19th, 2020 10:32 PM
Author: tripping cracking den personal credit line

wtf is up with that guy's hand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40633083)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 10:46 PM
Author: Self-absorbed nubile roommate corner

We need a front pic pumo brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40620428)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:23 AM
Author: Snowy aggressive address roast beef

Need front pic with spread labia plz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40620737)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 1:21 AM
Author: Galvanic Church

she's getting legit fat but that's a 180 waist to hip ratio

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40620929)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 1:23 AM
Author: rebellious house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40620933)