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is my gf getting too fat?

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excitant clear stage
  07/16/20
Good waist to hip ratio, seems like excess carbs go to her t...
Walnut Patrolman
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Thriller Swollen Locale
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excitant clear stage
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Thriller Swollen Locale
  07/16/20
I approve of this THICK slam piece
fear-inspiring jap mexican
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passionate hairless menage
  07/16/20
It's hard to tell without frontal view.
vivacious base
  07/16/20
i likka girl you can hold'a on to
cracking antidepressant drug
  07/16/20
Cellulite is an atrocious creation of Satan
contagious state
  07/16/20
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Big-titted pink hissy fit
  07/16/20
hideous ass. Put her on the RP diet app and a strength train...
vigorous bonkers sound barrier
  07/16/20
(Guy with extremely low T)
vengeful yellow water buffalo
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chestnut bearded shrine coffee pot
  07/16/20
How hard is she trending? Right now, no I think she looks go...
Seedy deer antler crackhouse
  07/16/20
Yes
Big-titted pink hissy fit
  07/16/20
She was getting too fat 30 lbs ago.
Olive Adventurous Church Building
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vigorous bonkers sound barrier
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ruby shivering principal's office sex offender
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Shouldn’t you have poasted this in the “Big chan...
orchid anal scourge upon the earth
  07/16/20
If you have to ask...
Talented spruce whorehouse
  07/16/20
Yeah, it's sort of gross. She's at the point where you'll be...
rough-skinned multi-colored brethren
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excitant clear stage
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Thriller Swollen Locale
  07/16/20
I've poasted plenty of pics of my slampieces before. Not doi...
rough-skinned multi-colored brethren
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excitant clear stage
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vigorous bonkers sound barrier
  07/16/20
The good news is that, with an ass like that, you will have ...
Harsh toilet seat senate
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black hateful keepsake machete
  07/16/20
Those are childbearing hips. Put a baby in her.
Comical roast beef alpha
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Avocado razzmatazz filthpig stock car
  07/16/20
she's 35, it's done
Aphrodisiac bronze shitlib goyim
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Smoky exciting box office digit ratio
  07/17/20
alarmingly low t-levels in this thread
passionate hairless menage
  07/16/20
recently tested in the very low 800s, I think she's WAY too ...
vigorous bonkers sound barrier
  07/16/20
She isn't fat. She looks like a woman.
passionate hairless menage
  07/16/20
*a fat woman
vigorous bonkers sound barrier
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Diverse bisexual elastic band dilemma
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Avocado razzmatazz filthpig stock car
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twisted twinkling uncleanness point
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vengeful yellow water buffalo
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carmine market nibblets
  07/16/20
I approve. But she also looks like one of those women whose ...
Violet Nighttime Immigrant Tanning Salon
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excitant clear stage
  07/16/20
put her on a well managed calorie deficit (again rec RP diet...
vigorous bonkers sound barrier
  07/16/20
She is doing great.
vivacious base
  07/16/20
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Provocative sandwich
  07/16/20
That’s damn good, then, but the transformation is unde...
Violet Nighttime Immigrant Tanning Salon
  07/16/20
Very nice
Avocado razzmatazz filthpig stock car
  07/16/20
Yes
Erotic stag film
  07/16/20
this is a good ass. ljl at the low-t cumskin dorks in here.
cracking antidepressant drug
  07/16/20
180 moniker, 120 take: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?t...
vigorous bonkers sound barrier
  07/16/20
look at her waist brother. i'm not going to say this is the ...
cracking antidepressant drug
  07/16/20
Towards the heavy end of hot right now. Trouble ahead. Ed...
galvanic university
  07/16/20
For 35+ yr old white women, that is at least top 90th percen...
Thriller Swollen Locale
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cracking antidepressant drug
  07/16/20
"For 35+ yr old white women" So the equivalent ...
rough-skinned multi-colored brethren
  07/16/20
Thats her age bracket. Also why its best to stay away from w...
Thriller Swollen Locale
  07/16/20
*American
Demanding lettuce
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*American
Demanding lettuce
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*American
Demanding lettuce
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twisted twinkling uncleanness point
  07/16/20
lots of homos ITT
irradiated azn
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slate appetizing forum toaster
  07/16/20
yeah, ATD and then give me her number
slate appetizing forum toaster
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fear-inspiring jap mexican
  07/17/20
In my opinion yes, but I can still respect and understand so...
Fishy parlor
  07/16/20
she’s an angel. congrats
Racy Lodge Cuckold
  07/16/20
need more pics to be sure
glittery indirect expression
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irradiated azn
  07/16/20
yeah gross. not a bubble butt, more like a rhombus butt.
learning disabled kitty
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It’s hard to evaluate online. Can I fuck her in person...
titillating rigor church
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excitant clear stage
  07/16/20
https://i.redd.it/5tx3hi8akoa51.jpg
titillating rigor church
  07/17/20
wtf is up with that guy's hand
irradiated azn
  07/19/20
We need a front pic pumo brother
Provocative sandwich
  07/16/20
Need front pic with spread labia plz
Smoky exciting box office digit ratio
  07/17/20
she's getting legit fat but that's a 180 waist to hip ratio
Bespoke house hominid
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Thriller Swollen Locale
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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:36 PM
Author: excitant clear stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618199)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:46 PM
Author: Walnut Patrolman

Good waist to hip ratio, seems like excess carbs go to her thighs, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Nothing some squats can’t fix.

FYA, I like a girl with meat on her bones, and I think your gf is at an optimal size.

More pics?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618246)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:46 PM
Author: Thriller Swollen Locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618248)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:50 PM
Author: excitant clear stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618267)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:01 PM
Author: Thriller Swollen Locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618331)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:26 PM
Author: fear-inspiring jap mexican

I approve of this THICK slam piece

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618479)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:39 PM
Author: passionate hairless menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618535)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:44 PM
Author: vivacious base

It's hard to tell without frontal view.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618846)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:57 PM
Author: cracking antidepressant drug

i likka girl you can hold'a on to

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618620)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:48 PM
Author: contagious state

Cellulite is an atrocious creation of Satan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618259)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:00 PM
Author: Big-titted pink hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618328)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:50 PM
Author: vigorous bonkers sound barrier

hideous ass. Put her on the RP diet app and a strength training program.

getting her lean will help tremendously.

rest of her looks ok from that angle, but odds are she has some stomach fat too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618264)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:29 PM
Author: vengeful yellow water buffalo

(Guy with extremely low T)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619318)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:31 PM
Author: chestnut bearded shrine coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619329)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:50 PM
Author: Seedy deer antler crackhouse

How hard is she trending? Right now, no I think she looks good. But things could go fat quickly from here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618270)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:00 PM
Author: Big-titted pink hissy fit

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618319)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:00 PM
Author: Olive Adventurous Church Building

She was getting too fat 30 lbs ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618324)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:33 PM
Author: vigorous bonkers sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618500)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:07 PM
Author: ruby shivering principal's office sex offender



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619223)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:02 PM
Author: orchid anal scourge upon the earth

Shouldn’t you have poasted this in the “Big changes” thread?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618342)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:07 PM
Author: Talented spruce whorehouse

If you have to ask...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618372)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:13 PM
Author: rough-skinned multi-colored brethren

Yeah, it's sort of gross. She's at the point where you'll be reaching for solid handholds when slamming her and your fingers just sink in . . .massive boner killer. Maybe it's just bad lighting but it looks like she has cellulite and maybe even stretch marks. Would be at least somewhat more acceptable with a smooth complexion.

The good thing is that she's keeping all of her fat in her legs and ass so she'll look really good if she drops some of the weight. At least you aren't dealing with a pear shaped chick. I'd say 10 lbs off would go a long way (assuming she's a spinner, if she's like 5'10 she might need to drop 15-20).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618403)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:15 PM
Author: excitant clear stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618415)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:18 PM
Author: Thriller Swollen Locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618433)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:35 PM
Author: rough-skinned multi-colored brethren

I've poasted plenty of pics of my slampieces before. Not doing it in this environment. I've fucked something like 10-12 chicks in the last 2-3 years or so, and all but one had much better bodies than your gf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618508)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:45 PM
Author: excitant clear stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618558)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:34 PM
Author: vigorous bonkers sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618504)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:18 PM
Author: Harsh toilet seat senate

The good news is that, with an ass like that, you will have no trouble finding a black bull to take care of her needs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618428)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:18 PM
Author: black hateful keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618432)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:30 PM
Author: Comical roast beef alpha

Those are childbearing hips. Put a baby in her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618492)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:49 PM
Author: Avocado razzmatazz filthpig stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618578)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:09 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac bronze shitlib goyim

she's 35, it's done

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619231)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:21 AM
Author: Smoky exciting box office digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40620733)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:33 PM
Author: passionate hairless menage

alarmingly low t-levels in this thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618503)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:37 PM
Author: vigorous bonkers sound barrier

recently tested in the very low 800s, I think she's WAY too fat

try finding another cope for liking fat chicks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618519)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:39 PM
Author: passionate hairless menage

She isn't fat. She looks like a woman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618533)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:53 PM
Author: vigorous bonkers sound barrier

*a fat woman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618598)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 7:01 PM
Author: Diverse bisexual elastic band dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619471)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:49 PM
Author: Avocado razzmatazz filthpig stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618579)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 5:56 PM
Author: Provocative sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619168)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 5:56 PM
Author: Provocative sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619170)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:16 PM
Author: twisted twinkling uncleanness point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619261)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:30 PM
Author: vengeful yellow water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619322)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:50 PM
Author: carmine market nibblets



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619426)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:45 PM
Author: Violet Nighttime Immigrant Tanning Salon

I approve. But she also looks like one of those women whose asses could morph into where she looks like a completely different person as she hits mid 30s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618559)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:52 PM
Author: excitant clear stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618590)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:54 PM
Author: vigorous bonkers sound barrier

put her on a well managed calorie deficit (again rec RP diet app for this) and a decent strength/hypertrophy combo lifting program, and in a year she will be top 10% of age group if not better. situation is not hopeless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618606)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:58 PM
Author: vivacious base

She is doing great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618624)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 5:56 PM
Author: Provocative sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619172)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:48 PM
Author: Violet Nighttime Immigrant Tanning Salon

That’s damn good, then, but the transformation is underway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619415)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:49 PM
Author: Avocado razzmatazz filthpig stock car

Very nice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618577)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:50 PM
Author: Erotic stag film

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618583)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:58 PM
Author: cracking antidepressant drug

this is a good ass. ljl at the low-t cumskin dorks in here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618626)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:59 PM
Author: vigorous bonkers sound barrier

180 moniker, 120 take: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618519

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618630)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:11 PM
Author: cracking antidepressant drug

look at her waist brother. i'm not going to say this is the poster child for the perfect ass, but it is 162.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618680)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:12 PM
Author: galvanic university

Towards the heavy end of hot right now. Trouble ahead.

Edit: Her ass is nice, but those thighs are starting to bulge. You need to get that under control ASAP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618690)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:20 PM
Author: Thriller Swollen Locale

For 35+ yr old white women, that is at least top 90th percentile ass. Just don't let her slip

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618722)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:21 PM
Author: cracking antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618726)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:31 PM
Author: rough-skinned multi-colored brethren

"For 35+ yr old white women"

So the equivalent of silver medal in the special olympics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618773)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:35 PM
Author: Thriller Swollen Locale

Thats her age bracket. Also why its best to stay away from white women

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618789)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:38 PM
Author: Demanding lettuce

*American

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618803)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:38 PM
Author: Demanding lettuce

*American

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618809)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:37 PM
Author: Demanding lettuce

*American

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618801)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:16 PM
Author: twisted twinkling uncleanness point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619262)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:30 PM
Author: irradiated azn

lots of homos ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618764)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 5:51 PM
Author: slate appetizing forum toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619147)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:38 PM
Author: slate appetizing forum toaster

yeah, ATD and then give me her number

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618808)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 5:35 AM
Author: fear-inspiring jap mexican



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40621162)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:45 PM
Author: Fishy parlor

In my opinion yes, but I can still respect and understand someone being attracted to her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40618854)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 5:53 PM
Author: Racy Lodge Cuckold

she’s an angel. congrats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619157)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 5:55 PM
Author: glittery indirect expression

need more pics to be sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619164)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:11 PM
Author: irradiated azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619239)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:11 PM
Author: learning disabled kitty

yeah gross. not a bubble butt, more like a rhombus butt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619245)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:13 PM
Author: titillating rigor church

It’s hard to evaluate online. Can I fuck her in person and let you know?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619249)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:23 PM
Author: excitant clear stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40619297)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 1:20 AM
Author: titillating rigor church

https://i.redd.it/5tx3hi8akoa51.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40620925)



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Date: July 19th, 2020 10:32 PM
Author: irradiated azn

wtf is up with that guy's hand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40633083)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 10:46 PM
Author: Provocative sandwich

We need a front pic pumo brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40620428)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:23 AM
Author: Smoky exciting box office digit ratio

Need front pic with spread labia plz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40620737)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 1:21 AM
Author: Bespoke house hominid

she's getting legit fat but that's a 180 waist to hip ratio

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40620929)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 1:23 AM
Author: Thriller Swollen Locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586350&forum_id=2#40620933)