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(8) Oklahoma vs. (9) Alabama 🎉

Predictions?
Ebony Native Jewess
  12/19/25
Oklahoma 21 - 10
Thirsty brethren newt
  12/19/25
Boomer Sooner 25-23
Bronze pungent piazza kitty
  12/19/25
...
Umber Son Of Senegal Becky
  12/19/25
why the fuck is there an sec conference game rematch on on t...
Carnelian Bawdyhouse
  12/19/25
cope
well-lubricated toaster
  12/19/25
And Tulane vs. Ole Piss is a rematch too
Tripping tanning salon
  12/19/25
...
Carnelian Bawdyhouse
  12/19/25
...
Excitant house
  12/19/25
12 team playoff is so bad
Nighttime charismatic home circlehead
  12/19/25
(Notrecuck)
well-lubricated toaster
  12/19/25
No they love it, since they thought it was going to be an au...
nofapping avocado mad-dog skullcap forum
  12/19/25
Exactly The ultimate “Has been” in all of CF...
soggy hell quadroon
  12/20/25
...
nofapping avocado mad-dog skullcap forum
  12/19/25
OU needs to beat Bama so we can remove the automatic tiebre...
razzmatazz useless stage multi-billionaire
  12/19/25
...
Tripping tanning salon
  12/19/25
In my 40+ years of hating OU I have come to recognize a patt...
know-it-all background story school
  12/19/25
OU's D is legit. It's offense is wtf since the QB broke h...
razzmatazz useless stage multi-billionaire
  12/19/25
So yeah like I said….
know-it-all background story school
  12/19/25
Alabama following up its -3 yards rushing in the Sec champio...
Carnelian Bawdyhouse
  12/19/25
thanks. you made me spit out my drink
razzmatazz useless stage multi-billionaire
  12/19/25
This Alabama team has played absolutely dreadful for six fuc...
Carnelian Bawdyhouse
  12/19/25
these alabama recruits need to head over to Oklahoma
razzmatazz useless stage multi-billionaire
  12/19/25
Oklahoma is going to get curb stomped next round.
Carnelian Bawdyhouse
  12/19/25
Insane they weren't punished at all for getting blown out. T...
Startled White Persian
  12/19/25
Legitimately embarrassing to see grown men praising Bama for...
Carnelian Bawdyhouse
  12/19/25
cr
Startled White Persian
  12/19/25
Called it
Beady-eyed Lodge Puppy
  12/19/25
Bama is a total joke this year
Startled White Persian
  12/19/25
...
Tripping tanning salon
  12/19/25
118 yards to 12 in 1Q.
razzmatazz useless stage multi-billionaire
  12/19/25
Bama is cooked
well-lubricated toaster
  12/19/25
Alabama seems like they suck, why are they in the playoffs a...
razzle-dazzle flesh stain jew
  12/19/25
because Notre Dame didn't want to join a conference
well-lubricated toaster
  12/19/25
committee doesn't want to drop teams out for losing in confe...
Startled White Persian
  12/19/25
Tbf they did drop smu last year, just not enough to take th...
razzle-dazzle flesh stain jew
  12/19/25
That's bullshit. The committee literally dropped OSU and...
Bat Shit Crazy Nursing Home
  12/19/25
...
Tripping tanning salon
  12/19/25
...
detroitrockcity
  01/01/26
not sure if you were aware but it just means more™️
contagious hideous business firm yarmulke
  12/19/25
-3 rushing yards in the SEC championship showed their grit.
Carnelian Bawdyhouse
  12/19/25
fuck dude. im trying to enjoy my drink
razzmatazz useless stage multi-billionaire
  12/19/25
Want ur poppi coming out ur nose
Carnelian Bawdyhouse
  12/19/25
...
razzle-dazzle flesh stain jew
  12/19/25
...
Aromatic menage
  12/19/25
Oklahoma looks like they could give Indiana a run for their ...
Vengeful Glittery Corner
  12/19/25
...
Lavender senate
  12/19/25
Oklahoma's offense looks good only because they're playing T...
Carnelian Bawdyhouse
  12/19/25
Like that. Jfc Mateer is shit
Carnelian Bawdyhouse
  12/19/25
Mateer looks fantastic about 35% of the time.
Vengeful Glittery Corner
  12/19/25
??
soggy hell quadroon
  12/19/25
Alabama making a comeback?
Big effete market coldplay fan
  12/19/25
retarded OU should have went for it on 4th down. instead a b...
razzmatazz useless stage multi-billionaire
  12/19/25
Alabama sucks but I still love that Notre Dame got excluded....
nofapping avocado mad-dog skullcap forum
  12/19/25
(Thomas Jefferson)
walnut brunch filthpig
  12/19/25
LJL OU was up 17-0 10 minutes (of game time) ago. Now it's t...
Vengeful Glittery Corner
  12/19/25
lmao is the oklahoma qb brain damaged? that was an awful pic...
razzle-dazzle flesh stain jew
  12/19/25
he has a broken hand
razzmatazz useless stage multi-billionaire
  12/19/25
And a torn labia.
Carnelian Bawdyhouse
  12/19/25
Was it one of the Alabama defenders who lined up to rush tha...
Vengeful Glittery Corner
  12/19/25
This is my problem with College Football. It's like, "W...
Bat Shit Crazy Nursing Home
  12/19/25
...
Aromatic menage
  12/19/25
i agree. everyone here swears cfb is better but when you wat...
razzle-dazzle flesh stain jew
  12/19/25
Why does OU's QB, who has been injured this season, keep run...
Vengeful Glittery Corner
  12/19/25
They only recruit defense.
razzmatazz useless stage multi-billionaire
  12/20/25
Venables looks and sounds like a former Marine officer getti...
Vengeful Glittery Corner
  12/19/25
Crazy game imo
Magical Chapel
  12/19/25
Looked up the weather because the crowd looks like its 20 be...
Bat Shit Crazy Nursing Home
  12/19/25
lol Trumpkins stopped posting itt. why?
well-lubricated toaster
  12/19/25
Who will Alabama play in the next round?
Magical Chapel
  12/19/25
Notre Dame
well-lubricated toaster
  12/19/25
Why are they sharing the same coach
Magical Chapel
  12/19/25
where yall big 10 faggots at now?
well-lubricated toaster
  12/19/25
wow tcq
potluck
  01/01/26


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Date: December 19th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Ebony Native Jewess

Predictions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523432)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 5:30 PM
Author: Thirsty brethren newt

Oklahoma 21 - 10

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523437)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 5:32 PM
Author: Bronze pungent piazza kitty

Boomer Sooner

25-23

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523440)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 7:34 PM
Author: Umber Son Of Senegal Becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523691)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 7:56 PM
Author: Carnelian Bawdyhouse

why the fuck is there an sec conference game rematch on on tonight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523734)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:03 PM
Author: well-lubricated toaster

cope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523742)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:28 PM
Author: Tripping tanning salon

And Tulane vs. Ole Piss is a rematch too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523921)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:34 PM
Author: Carnelian Bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523942)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:42 PM
Author: Excitant house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523960)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:08 PM
Author: Nighttime charismatic home circlehead

12 team playoff is so bad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523749)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: well-lubricated toaster

(Notrecuck)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523750)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:22 PM
Author: nofapping avocado mad-dog skullcap forum

No they love it, since they thought it was going to be an autobid every year for them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523912)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 9:17 AM
Author: soggy hell quadroon

Exactly

The ultimate “Has been” in all of CFB but somehow they never heard this fact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49524749)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:21 PM
Author: nofapping avocado mad-dog skullcap forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523909)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:12 PM
Author: razzmatazz useless stage multi-billionaire

OU needs to beat Bama so we can remove the automatic tiebreaker Bama got with everyone due to its success under Saban.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523756)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:28 PM
Author: Tripping tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523924)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:17 PM
Author: know-it-all background story school

In my 40+ years of hating OU I have come to recognize a pattern in when they get overconfident and reality smacks them down and reminds them that they are landthieving methhead scum. It’s funny because when they are actually good it’s like they’re humbled and don’t talk smack, but when they’re vulnerable they try to cover it up with bluster. I’d call them a 2:1 dog tonight. I do think whoever wins this is pretty likely to make the championship game because Indiana and Tech are both frauds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523765)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:22 PM
Author: razzmatazz useless stage multi-billionaire

OU's D is legit.

It's offense is wtf since the QB broke his hand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523777)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:47 PM
Author: know-it-all background story school

So yeah like I said….

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49524087)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:41 PM
Author: Carnelian Bawdyhouse

Alabama following up its -3 yards rushing in the Sec championship (not punished by committee at all) with -7 in Q1.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523827)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:43 PM
Author: razzmatazz useless stage multi-billionaire

thanks. you made me spit out my drink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523833)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:44 PM
Author: Carnelian Bawdyhouse

This Alabama team has played absolutely dreadful for six fucking weeks and everyone has just been ignoring it because they think Nick Saban is in charge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523835)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:48 PM
Author: razzmatazz useless stage multi-billionaire

these alabama recruits need to head over to Oklahoma

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523845)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:56 PM
Author: Carnelian Bawdyhouse

Oklahoma is going to get curb stomped next round.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523864)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Startled White Persian

Insane they weren't punished at all for getting blown out. Texas or ND are head-and-shoulders better than this team

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523851)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:53 PM
Author: Carnelian Bawdyhouse

Legitimately embarrassing to see grown men praising Bama for struggling past a shit War Damn Eagle team.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523855)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:58 PM
Author: Startled White Persian

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523870)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Lodge Puppy

Called it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523841)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: Startled White Persian

Bama is a total joke this year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523849)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:27 PM
Author: Tripping tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523919)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:54 PM
Author: razzmatazz useless stage multi-billionaire

118 yards to 12 in 1Q.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523859)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:56 PM
Author: well-lubricated toaster

Bama is cooked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523867)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:00 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle flesh stain jew

Alabama seems like they suck, why are they in the playoffs again?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523872)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:02 PM
Author: well-lubricated toaster

because Notre Dame didn't want to join a conference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523875)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:02 PM
Author: Startled White Persian

committee doesn't want to drop teams out for losing in conference championships, that's how SMU made it in last year iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523876)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle flesh stain jew

Tbf they did drop smu last year, just not enough to take them out of the playoff iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523906)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:23 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Nursing Home

That's bullshit.

The committee literally dropped OSU and BYU this year.

The committee does what it wants to get the teams it wants in. They didnt drop Alabama because they didn't want to face the wrath of the SEC and Alabama.

The committee dropped BYU because it needed the ACC to get a bid, so then they said since BYU dropped, they had to look at Miami and Notre Dame head to head, so then they flipped those schools (even though a week before they litearlly said ND was ranked higher - and the teams did not play...)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523914)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Tripping tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523926)



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Date: January 1st, 2026 7:03 PM
Author: detroitrockcity



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49555042)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:05 PM
Author: contagious hideous business firm yarmulke

not sure if you were aware but it just means more™️

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523880)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:07 PM
Author: Carnelian Bawdyhouse

-3 rushing yards in the SEC championship showed their grit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523882)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:08 PM
Author: razzmatazz useless stage multi-billionaire

fuck dude. im trying to enjoy my drink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523883)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Carnelian Bawdyhouse

Want ur poppi coming out ur nose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523889)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle flesh stain jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523887)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Aromatic menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523896)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:08 PM
Author: Vengeful Glittery Corner

Oklahoma looks like they could give Indiana a run for their money in the next round. Too bad for them they drew the 1 seed.

Alabama looks like a team that had negative rushing yards in the SEC championship game and that doesn't deserve to be playing tonight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523885)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:10 PM
Author: Lavender senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523891)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:10 PM
Author: Carnelian Bawdyhouse

Oklahoma's offense looks good only because they're playing Temu Kennesaw State right now. It's a bad offense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523892)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:34 PM
Author: Carnelian Bawdyhouse

Like that. Jfc Mateer is shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523939)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:35 PM
Author: Vengeful Glittery Corner

Mateer looks fantastic about 35% of the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523945)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:44 PM
Author: soggy hell quadroon

??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523966)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:16 PM
Author: Big effete market coldplay fan

Alabama making a comeback?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523900)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:23 PM
Author: razzmatazz useless stage multi-billionaire

retarded OU should have went for it on 4th down. instead a blocked punt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523915)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: nofapping avocado mad-dog skullcap forum

Alabama sucks but I still love that Notre Dame got excluded.

Join a damn conference, domecucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523916)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:28 PM
Author: walnut brunch filthpig

(Thomas Jefferson)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523922)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:34 PM
Author: Vengeful Glittery Corner

LJL OU was up 17-0 10 minutes (of game time) ago. Now it's tied.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523940)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:35 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle flesh stain jew

lmao is the oklahoma qb brain damaged? that was an awful pick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523943)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:36 PM
Author: razzmatazz useless stage multi-billionaire

he has a broken hand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523949)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:38 PM
Author: Carnelian Bawdyhouse

And a torn labia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523955)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:37 PM
Author: Vengeful Glittery Corner

Was it one of the Alabama defenders who lined up to rush than dropped back who picked him? Either way, Alabama showing blitz then dropping back confused him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523950)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:38 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Nursing Home

This is my problem with College Football. It's like, "What if we had a game like the NFL, except every 10 plays an 18 year old does something retarded"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523951)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:01 PM
Author: Aromatic menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523997)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:03 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle flesh stain jew

i agree. everyone here swears cfb is better but when you watch it, shit like this happens and you realize how much shittier the gameplay is compared to the nfl, even putting aside that 90% of the games are ridiculous mismatches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49524001)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:38 PM
Author: Vengeful Glittery Corner

Why does OU's QB, who has been injured this season, keep running up the middle for 1 yard?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523953)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: razzmatazz useless stage multi-billionaire

They only recruit defense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49524828)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:45 PM
Author: Vengeful Glittery Corner

Venables looks and sounds like a former Marine officer getting his guys back together to form a secret paramilitary force.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49523967)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:17 PM
Author: Magical Chapel

Crazy game imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49524021)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:53 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Nursing Home

Looked up the weather because the crowd looks like its 20 below.

It's 51 degrees there...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49524096)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:15 PM
Author: well-lubricated toaster

lol Trumpkins stopped posting itt.

why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49524141)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Magical Chapel

Who will Alabama play in the next round?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49524148)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:26 PM
Author: well-lubricated toaster

Notre Dame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49524162)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:30 PM
Author: Magical Chapel

Why are they sharing the same coach

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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: well-lubricated toaster

where yall big 10 faggots at now?

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Date: January 1st, 2026 7:07 PM
Author: potluck

wow tcq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812279&forum_id=2#49555047)