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Out of work since may 09 grad... suggestions?
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Date: March 6th, 2010 8:50 PM Author: Rose arrogant messiness Yes I know Im TTT. Top 20 school, bottom 1/3 of class.
Question 1: How fucked?
Question 2: Other than kill self, suggestions? |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 8:51 PM Author: Lavender tanning salon why are you not flipping burgers somewhere? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317059) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 8:51 PM Author: boyish giraffe hurt self (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317060) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 8:52 PM Author: Canary set background story i chuckled (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317065) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 2:13 PM Author: painfully honest community account indian lodge lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14321938) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 3:29 PM Author: bonkers doobsian site lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14322667) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 8:52 PM Author: Cerise Lascivious Field Psychic what was ug major? debt? living situation? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317063) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:22 PM Author: Rose arrogant messiness poli sci, have debt. full. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317330) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:04 PM Author: overrated copper garrison liquid oxygen I suggest you talk to some sole practitioners. If you can find a sole practitioner who has a busy practice and is good at marketing, he can probably provide enough work to keep you busy. You won't earn a whole lot to start, but you can quickly start building your own book of business as you learn new skills and start selling them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318116) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:07 PM Author: Rose arrogant messiness I think thats the best advice so far. its something ive been considering...
time to suck in the pride |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:14 PM Author: Sooty center jesus christ it has been a long ass time...you are only considering this now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318183) |
Date: March 6th, 2010 8:53 PM Author: Light Boistinker what have you been doing? i could've easily become an archcriminal in that time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317082) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:23 PM Author: Rose arrogant messiness volunteer law. practically in violation of federal labor law standards... at a nice place too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317336) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:22 PM Author: comical den Peace Corps? Service that debt! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317335) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:24 PM Author: Pale dashing public bath law school is your path to riches and bitches. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317344) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 2:17 PM Author: Soggy metal dopamine cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14321984) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:25 PM Author: 180 immigrant Forget law; do something else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317367) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:26 PM Author: Rose arrogant messiness like? id do anything at this point thats not waiting tables... have poli sci degree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317376) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:27 PM Author: 180 immigrant Like waiting tables. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317383) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:27 PM Author: comical den What is your objection to Peace Corps? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317385) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:27 PM Author: Rose arrogant messiness i dont really have an objection i guess... edit: applying now |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:27 PM Author: 180 immigrant Join the military. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317397) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:28 PM Author: Rose arrogant messiness yeah next class wont start till july tho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317400) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:29 PM Author: 180 immigrant Sue your law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317407) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:30 PM Author: Rose arrogant messiness hmm good call. i could with a bunch of other grads from my school... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317415) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:28 PM Author: Histrionic Flushed School Cumskin family business. expand it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317398) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:28 PM Author: Rose arrogant messiness family business aint goin nowhere... not going to work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317403) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:28 PM Author: Stubborn shitlib library No one on here has an answer for you. You need to search for yourself and try to find things. Try to apply to crappy law jobs in rural areas -- that's your best bet.
Otherwise just keep your fingers crossed that the economy improves and keep yourself productive and networking until it does. |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:29 PM Author: Rose arrogant messiness Thats what ive been doing so far. Im asking here, because im curious what kind of entry level jobs id have a shot at in terms of any fortune 500 companies etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317409) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:32 PM Author: Stubborn shitlib library People on xoxo are often clueless about the job market right now. They have a woe is me attitude about the law and don't realize every sector is fucked.
The way you need to look at things is that you have no shot at a fortune 500, BUT you have no shot at anything. So if an idea pops into your head you should try it.
Getting a job right now is like winning the lottery. I suggest you apply to as many as possible and hope one is the winning ticket. |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:34 PM Author: Rose arrogant messiness its a total shock, i went to a good fucking lawschool... yeah problem with xoxo is too many current students... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317470) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:38 PM Author: Stubborn shitlib library Current students or no offered. See the guy below suggesting that you should have gone into engineering. We have unemployed engineers on this board too. Everyone is suffering. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317509) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:14 PM Author: cracking navy property I cant say that engineering employment is worse or as bad as law right now, but it definitely is at its lowest point since WWII, and probably has a lower chance to recover due to outsourcing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318180) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:16 PM Author: Sticky office What isn't fucked in the USA... healthcare reform will totally fuck that as well (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318198) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:32 PM Author: comical den Yeah, I have two buddies in IT from HS. One is working for the DOD, which seems like a pretty sweet gig. He is helping to protect the States from cyber attack. He also knows tons about hacking into computers. The stories he tells are hilarious. Another began a start-up, made some money off it (not much, but was able to sell it), and now works in IT at a major hospital.
The DOD dude was definitely not at the top of the class in HS and didn't really care about work at all. There is no way he would have wanted to work for the feds when he was 16. The other dude has always been very smart, went to probably the best LAC (there's debate between the top two, though), and has always been driven. It's interesting to see where people end up going. |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:34 PM Author: Sticky office Basically you're just saying that the gov is like old world job coolness and the US is royally fucked because private industry is dead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318366) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:40 PM Author: comical den Priv industry isn't dead for IT guys. That is what I was trying to say. But, you are right, a public hospital is not a private industry.
Yeah, I think the DOD job sounds pretty cool. You don't? He has some cool stories about the different tactics people try (can't tell me who is trying it, of course). Plus, he knows how to hack into loads of stuff, even with just his iPhone. I saw him once at a bar hack into this public message display the bar had with his iPhone. It was like magic! |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:17 PM Author: Fuchsia Vigorous University you have to realize that on job boards there are still computer-oriented jobs in a variety of areas. now after looking at these jobs, go ahead and look at the legal section of these sites. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318211) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:29 PM Author: Stubborn shitlib library very scientific (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318320) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:14 AM Author: galvanic regret the guy who fucking flew his plane into IRS was an unemployed engineer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318728) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:26 AM Author: Curious mahogany stage when the fuck was this? link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318817) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:00 AM Author: Curious mahogany stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318593) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:33 PM Author: swashbuckling halford Build time machine. Get into HYPS or get an math/physics/engineering degree or get into med school. HTH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317446) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 9:35 PM Author: Rose arrogant messiness Flux capacitor is busted until economy improves (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14317472) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 10:54 PM Author: nubile business firm just watch out for those Libyans (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318055) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:10 PM Author: grizzly ratface med school is auto-fail when health care industry is socialized (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318152) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:12 PM Author: Sticky office tcr... this is what keeps me out of med school honestly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318164) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:16 PM Author: grizzly ratface yup. and even in the unlikely event that full socialization doesn't happen, the government still effectively operates a monopsony and they keep cutting medicare reimbursement, a trend that shows no sign of ending. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318202) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:17 PM Author: Sticky office yup... doc salaries have huge downward pressure even at the moment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318210) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 10:54 PM Author: Greedy ticket booth kill self. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318058) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:38 PM Author: Effete charcoal trailer park pursue a phd in humanities (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318399) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:44 PM Author: Curious mahogany stage Do you have a current job anywhere? Don't you feel guilty not doing any work? At least something part-time, or not legal related? I'd need money to live/go out... how do you cover living expenses? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318444) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:53 PM Author: indigo supple stag film alpha stop fucking around, get a job.
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:54 PM Author: Sticky office lololol like it's easy to even get a job at costco atm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318533) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:57 PM Author: indigo supple stag film alpha im from a TTT and got no offered. i have a job because i pounded the fucking pavement. he should put some effort into it.
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:59 PM Author: Curious mahogany stage he can do telemarketing at least. they're almost always hiring and judging from the people that call me, have little to no standards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318583) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:00 AM Author: Sticky office lol they're not hiring... sorry brah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318592) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 11:55 PM Author: Idiotic Cuck Therapy No kidding. I don't think even in '06 bottom-of-the-barrel WUSTL got better than shitlaw or solo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318542) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:01 AM Author: Curious mahogany stage don't you have any connections? you were in polisci - any political connections with parties? Why not RA work for a prof (whether UG or LS?) That pays and builds experience. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318606) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:04 AM Author: confused dead rigor Let me get this straight: you went to a non T14 law school, paid sticker AND graduated bottom 1/3? Talk about bad decisions. You have no particular skills that anyone would want outside of law. And law firms don't want you beause of your grades. It's a pretty situation to be in. I'd suggest you take whatever kind of entry level job you can find and work your way up. Go to monster.com and click on the entry-level option and apply to whatever you might be even remotely qualified for, even if it's paying $30K. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318634) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:12 AM Author: Curious mahogany stage TBF, I think it's because of the economy as well... he went to a T20. That's not horrible. He probably lacks interview skills/connections, and has high standards (or very specific) otherwise he could probably find SOMETHING by now. I would also suggest just taking any job at the moment, however, and then he could always move into a law-related thing later, when the economy improves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318704) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:15 AM Author: Sticky office It's a pretty horrible decision in any economy to go to a top 20 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318737) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:15 AM Author: Curious mahogany stage Move to Canada? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14318729) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:19 PM Author: salmon aromatic principal's office gaping There's plenty of doc review. Really no excuse for doing jack shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14320790) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 2:11 PM Author: Rose arrogant messiness doing that... im talkinga bout getting a real job dick. And yes as Ive said ive been doing volunteer pro bono work... not paid tho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14321927) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 3:28 PM Author: salmon aromatic principal's office gaping Are you doing doc review or worthless unpaid shit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14322643) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 3:31 PM Author: bonkers doobsian site Would working for free but being in court be worse than doc review? I'm not sure this is right. I'm not really lit myself, but my impression is that doc review only prepares you to do more doc review. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14322687) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 4:18 PM Author: salmon aromatic principal's office gaping Some people like to have jobs that pay money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243231&forum_id=2#14323235) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 2:16 PM Author: mint sadistic market this is easy, do whatever you want...it doesn't matter, you'll never pay off your loans and your life is fucked.
Get a job tending bar 3 nights a week, be a parking garage attendant, or open up a hardware store.
It doesn't matter, you're doomed |
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