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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
Iridescent outnumbered halford
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
Razzmatazz Clown Electric Furnace
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
Vivacious locale
  06/15/18
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Diverse Space
  06/15/18
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Diverse Space
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
Provocative indecent bawdyhouse queen of the night
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
stirring zombie-like marketing idea weed whacker
  10/06/21
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Iridescent outnumbered halford
  02/12/22
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boner police?s buttondick
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
Shaky resort
  06/15/18
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Diverse Space
  06/15/18
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Drab concupiscible really tough guy party of the first part
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
Shaky resort
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
fishy stead
  06/15/18
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Hot Primrose Nowag
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
Diverse Space
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
lime area codepig
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
know-it-all geriatric brunch cuckoldry
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
chartreuse fear-inspiring lodge mental disorder
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
Provocative indecent bawdyhouse queen of the night
  06/15/18
sounds 180
Shaky resort
  06/15/18
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Hot Primrose Nowag
  06/15/18
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Drab concupiscible really tough guy party of the first part
  06/15/18
https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/myst...
Salmon Odious Base Gunner
  06/15/18
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Diverse Space
  06/15/18
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Vivacious locale
  06/15/18
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Drab concupiscible really tough guy party of the first part
  06/15/18
https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1
Drab concupiscible really tough guy party of the first part
  06/15/18
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chartreuse fear-inspiring lodge mental disorder
  06/15/18
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insane location
  06/15/18
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Drab concupiscible really tough guy party of the first part
  02/15/21
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insane location
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
Iridescent outnumbered halford
  10/06/21
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Iridescent outnumbered halford
  01/18/25
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I hate being a lawyer and want to die
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
free-loading corn cake menage
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
Iridescent outnumbered halford
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
Onyx people who are hurt
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
Iridescent outnumbered halford
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
Onyx people who are hurt
  06/15/18
Explain
Iridescent outnumbered halford
  06/15/18
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Iridescent outnumbered halford
  06/16/18
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Iridescent outnumbered halford
  09/04/18
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insane location
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
Unhinged charismatic library black woman
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
burgundy stain
  06/15/18
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Iridescent outnumbered halford
  02/12/21
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Maize cocky public bath
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Drab concupiscible really tough guy party of the first part
  02/15/21
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Iridescent outnumbered halford
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
copper boyish antidepressant drug national
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
Histrionic Dun Cruise Ship
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
Iridescent outnumbered halford
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
Galvanic pozpig kitty cat
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
Iridescent outnumbered halford
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
Galvanic pozpig kitty cat
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
Iridescent outnumbered halford
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
Contagious idiotic rehab faggot firefighter
  02/12/21
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Maize cocky public bath
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
copper boyish antidepressant drug national
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
Contagious idiotic rehab faggot firefighter
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
abnormal self-centered kitchen
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
Contagious idiotic rehab faggot firefighter
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
abnormal self-centered kitchen
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
Histrionic Dun Cruise Ship
  02/12/21
lol no
mind-boggling disgusting windowlicker
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
White Nibblets
  02/15/21
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Iridescent outnumbered halford
  06/29/21
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Iridescent outnumbered halford
  10/06/21
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Dashing twisted brethren cuck
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
wine heaven
  10/06/21
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Iridescent outnumbered halford
  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: Iridescent outnumbered halford

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252934)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Clown Electric Furnace

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: Vivacious locale

As I understand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253562)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Diverse Space



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: Diverse Space



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Provocative indecent bawdyhouse queen of the night

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252972)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: stirring zombie-like marketing idea weed whacker

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231415)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: Iridescent outnumbered halford



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: boner police?s buttondick ((zurich is stained))



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Shaky resort

they have no debt as I understand it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252979)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: Diverse Space



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Drab concupiscible really tough guy party of the first part



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Shaky resort

260k is a huge salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252984)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: fishy stead

goes a long way in shaker heights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252989)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Hot Primrose Nowag



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Diverse Space

Cr. Thats city janitor money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: lime area codepig

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: know-it-all geriatric brunch cuckoldry

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: chartreuse fear-inspiring lodge mental disorder

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Provocative indecent bawdyhouse queen of the night

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Shaky resort

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Hot Primrose Nowag



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: Drab concupiscible really tough guy party of the first part



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Salmon Odious Base Gunner

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253012)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Diverse Space



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: Vivacious locale



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Drab concupiscible really tough guy party of the first part



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Drab concupiscible really tough guy party of the first part

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: chartreuse fear-inspiring lodge mental disorder



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: insane location



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Drab concupiscible really tough guy party of the first part



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: insane location



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Iridescent outnumbered halford

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: Iridescent outnumbered halford



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: free-loading corn cake menage

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253074)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: Iridescent outnumbered halford

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Onyx people who are hurt

p depressing news going into the weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253537)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: Iridescent outnumbered halford

Eat my dick nigger lover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253786)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Onyx people who are hurt

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254215)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: Iridescent outnumbered halford

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254517)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: Iridescent outnumbered halford



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Iridescent outnumbered halford



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: insane location



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: Unhinged charismatic library black woman

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: burgundy stain

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: Iridescent outnumbered halford



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: Maize cocky public bath



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Drab concupiscible really tough guy party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949789)



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: Iridescent outnumbered halford



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: copper boyish antidepressant drug national

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: Histrionic Dun Cruise Ship

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: Iridescent outnumbered halford

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: Galvanic pozpig kitty cat

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Iridescent outnumbered halford

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: Galvanic pozpig kitty cat

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: Iridescent outnumbered halford

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Contagious idiotic rehab faggot firefighter

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: Maize cocky public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933950)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: copper boyish antidepressant drug national

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: Contagious idiotic rehab faggot firefighter

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: abnormal self-centered kitchen

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: Contagious idiotic rehab faggot firefighter

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: abnormal self-centered kitchen

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: Histrionic Dun Cruise Ship

(Stevie Brogan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935792)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: mind-boggling disgusting windowlicker

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: White Nibblets

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: Iridescent outnumbered halford



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: Iridescent outnumbered halford



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: Dashing twisted brethren cuck



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: wine heaven

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: Iridescent outnumbered halford



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