tons of people not halachically jewish are affiliated with reform synagogues.

his mom has a jewish father, but it's not proven that his mom's mom is jewish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48904921)

Date: May 4th, 2025 8:46 PM

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RSF is a less-than-1/2 jew who wants nothing to do with jewesses, which is very common

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48903972)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48904933)

a child with only 1 jewish grandparent out of 4, a maternal grandfather, is offered to observe judaism by non jewish parents

how does this number compare to a child with 2 jewish grandparents on the mother's side being offered to observe judaism?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48904957)

non-orthodox jews don't "observe judaism."

your premise is wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48904967)

and what informed choice could a child make anyway. did his parents ask him if he wants to eat lox and bagels, and he said no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48904987)

how often does this scenario play out?

a child with only 1 jewish grandparent out of 4, a maternal grandfather, is offered to observe judaism by non jewish parents

vs a family in which both maternal grandparents are jews?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48904995)

i would guess that in any american household, little kids are essentially "forced" into whatever religion and whatever degree of observance their parents want.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48905002)

lol @ this passive voice...endorsing yourself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48904934)

when rsf says he is not jewish because he doesn't practice judiasm they point to his partial jewish ethnicity. but then they say that makes him 100% jew because of jewish customs that he doesn't follow and wasn't raised in. it's stupid circular reasoning.

rsf is has some ethnic jewish heritage. but he seems culturally goy and doesn't even consider himself a secular jew. whether he's a jew under jewish law has no impact on his ethnicity. and jewish law doesn't make him a jew if he doesn't subscribe to jewish law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48905049)

if you're a halachic jew, you're a jew and required to follow jewish law whether you want to or not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48905059)

"and jewish law doesn't make him a jew if he doesn't subscribe to jewish law."

if an ortho abandons the faith they are no longer required to follow jewish law. who would make them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48905215)

we had jewish courts like in the days of the sanhedrin where punishment could be handed out for transgressing the sabbath etc. we don't have that anymore, so any and all punishment and consequence comes from god, not jewish courts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48905228)

in fact, this whole debate arose because when others claimed that rsf is jewish (meaning ethnically), he tried to dodge the issue by asserting that he's not a jew because he's not religiously jewish. this kind of behavior, ironically, is one of the strongest indicators that he is jewish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48905069)

but i don't think antisemites care about ethnic goys who are religiously jewish like ivanka trump or your wife

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48905090)

he's nouveau riche who at times has been insecure and prone to embellishment and bragging. this made him a good target for trolls and haters. but he seems to have matured a bit and isn't as obsessed with nyc club playboy lifestyle as he was in his 20s. who here is the same person they were in their 20s? but his haters and trolls don't seem to have matured at all. they're still creating the same rsf threads making the same rsf insults. and i'm not talking about one-off insults we all do on xo, i'm talking about the deranged people who create endless threads and spam about him on the weekend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48905134)

antisemites don't care whether a jew is majority jew genetically. nor do they much care which parent is jewish. to them, rsf is already jewish.

jews themselves are also indifferent to genetic percentage as long as the mother is jewish. it seems overwhelmingly likely that rsf is jewish on this count as well.

the debate here has nothing to do with rsf's cultural and religious preferences. no one cares about that. it's about whether he's universally considered a jew.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48905178)

if it's about whether he's "universally considered a jew", then he's not a jew. he's a tall guy that played lax and now lives a hedonistic trust-fund life. nothing about that screams jews. he doesn't look jewish. from what i can tell he doesn't act jewish, except for the venn diagram jewish neurotic insecurity and trust-fund light on accomplishments insecurity both resulting in narcisistic sophistry. i don't think anyone who ran into rsf as some st topaz resort would think he's a jew.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48905209)

orthos and antisemites are pretty niche. i don't think rsf would be recognized as a jew by 95% of people. 99.9% if he's just running into someone and they don't know his heritage. he isn't culturally, ethnically, phenotypically, or behaviorally jewish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48905250)

whether someone "cares" about something can have different levels of significance. i don't "care" about ethnicity, but i do care enough about it that i'm not going to do reality denial and agree that rachel dolezal is black. whether she is or isn't has no significance to me, but she's not. i don't care whether rsf is a jew, but he's not a jew.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48905319)

> i don't care whether rsf is a jew

then your opinion doesn't matter for this discussion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48905328)

yes, i'm talking about xo 👍

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48905356)

what's the standard for this? i would assume the average american would think someone who plays lacrosse who is partially jewish who had no jewish identity growing up or as an adult and who married a shikse wife to not be jewish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48905212)

i meant among people who care whether someone is a jew -- jews themselves and antisemites

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48905227)

RSF is a desirable man, as he is wealthy, tall and has a full head of hair. Irrespective of any genetic argument, he does not appear to have been raised in a household that places any value on living a Jewish lifestyle nor is he part of a Jewish social community, so there's no pressure on him to marry a Jewish woman or raise Jewish children. He also outwardly rejects Judaism in his personal life and would derive zero benefit from his spouse being Jewish. Indeed, for him, it would likely be a negative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48904993)

is this true for the majority of jewish men?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48905003)

best thing someone on xo has ever said about me. tytyty!

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overall, very CR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720376&forum_id=2#48905009)