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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
ruddy bonkers volcanic crater
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
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  06/15/18
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burgundy idiotic trailer park becky
  06/15/18
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burgundy idiotic trailer park becky
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
impressive green gaping coffee pot
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
Learning disabled cobalt den idiot
  10/06/21
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jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital
  02/12/22
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Charlie Dung from Zhejiang Province
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
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  06/15/18
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burgundy idiotic trailer park becky
  06/15/18
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Marvelous ratface stage
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
avocado voyeur hall
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
lascivious lemon goyim theater
  06/15/18
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emerald home international law enforcement agency
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
burgundy idiotic trailer park becky
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
angry heady newt
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
Supple Splenetic School Cafeteria
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
At-the-ready tantric whorehouse
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
impressive green gaping coffee pot
  06/15/18
sounds 180
avocado voyeur hall
  06/15/18
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emerald home international law enforcement agency
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Marvelous ratface stage
  06/15/18
https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/myst...
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Marvelous ratface stage
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boyish cuck parlour
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital
  10/06/21
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jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital
  01/18/25
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I hate being a lawyer and want to die
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
Glassy brethren ticket booth
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
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  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
Sable low-t bbw
  06/15/18
Explain
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jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital
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boyish cuck parlour
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
Drab stage
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
aqua shrine
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jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital
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Marvelous ratface stage
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jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
ungodly area
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
Swashbuckling deranged boltzmann
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
rambunctious foreskin trust fund
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
rambunctious foreskin trust fund
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
Laughsome field deer antler
  02/12/21
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Aphrodisiac abusive mexican
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
ungodly area
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
Laughsome field deer antler
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
offensive twinkling uncleanness party of the first part
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
Laughsome field deer antler
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
offensive twinkling uncleanness party of the first part
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
Swashbuckling deranged boltzmann
  02/12/21
lol no
salmon titillating office mediation
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
Excitant slate bawdyhouse
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jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital
  06/29/21
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jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital
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Coiffed cruise ship
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
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  10/06/21
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jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital
  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252934)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: ruddy bonkers volcanic crater

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: comical kink-friendly resort weed whacker

As I understand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253562)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: burgundy idiotic trailer park becky



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: burgundy idiotic trailer park becky



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: impressive green gaping coffee pot

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252972)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: Learning disabled cobalt den idiot

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231415)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: Charlie Dung from Zhejiang Province ((zurich is stained))



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: avocado voyeur hall

they have no debt as I understand it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252979)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: burgundy idiotic trailer park becky



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Marvelous ratface stage



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: avocado voyeur hall

260k is a huge salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252984)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: lascivious lemon goyim theater

goes a long way in shaker heights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252989)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: emerald home international law enforcement agency



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: burgundy idiotic trailer park becky

Cr. Thats city janitor money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: angry heady newt

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: Supple Splenetic School Cafeteria

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: At-the-ready tantric whorehouse

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: impressive green gaping coffee pot

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: avocado voyeur hall

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: emerald home international law enforcement agency



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: Marvelous ratface stage



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Crimson frisky native

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: burgundy idiotic trailer park becky



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: comical kink-friendly resort weed whacker



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Marvelous ratface stage



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Marvelous ratface stage

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: At-the-ready tantric whorehouse



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: boyish cuck parlour



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Marvelous ratface stage



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: boyish cuck parlour



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: Glassy brethren ticket booth

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253074)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Sable low-t bbw

p depressing news going into the weekend

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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital

Eat my dick nigger lover

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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Sable low-t bbw

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254215)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254517)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: boyish cuck parlour



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: Drab stage

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: aqua shrine

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac abusive mexican



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Marvelous ratface stage



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: ungodly area

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: Swashbuckling deranged boltzmann

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: rambunctious foreskin trust fund

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: rambunctious foreskin trust fund

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Laughsome field deer antler

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac abusive mexican



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: ungodly area

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: Laughsome field deer antler

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: offensive twinkling uncleanness party of the first part

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: Laughsome field deer antler

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: offensive twinkling uncleanness party of the first part

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: Swashbuckling deranged boltzmann

(Stevie Brogan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935792)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: salmon titillating office mediation

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: Excitant slate bawdyhouse

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: Coiffed cruise ship



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: dun space

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: jet-lagged coldplay fan hospital



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