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Date: July 15th, 2020 10:27 AM Author: sticky mind-boggling point pozpig They're acting like going back to school with a mask to teach is akin to being a Chernobyl liquidator and the public has bought this narrative wholesale.
There is no similar public narrative for the cashiers at Walmart, Target, Safeway, etc., who are almost certainly engaged in higher risk encounters. Teachers are lionized as martyrs headed to the trenches of Verdun.
Watching the public eat this up and regurgitate it with pithy Facebook memes and drawings -- without even considering the deleterious impact on elementary school aged children who cannot learn effectively with a laptop or the parents who will need to quit their jobs -- is an insane study in social media groupthink. There is no nuance. No critical thought. Any attempt to consider the social utility of school and the potential risk to childhood development is met with "WHY DO U HATE SCIENCE?!" or some other middling IQ strawman. |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:13 PM Author: mauve theater stage elastic band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612441) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 12:26 PM Author: trip jade marketing idea stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40617551) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 12:28 PM Author: Haunting public bath "WHY DO U HATE SCIENCE?!"
Because it inflicts epistemic violence on communities of color and their ways of knowing. |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:54 PM Author: Violet headpube house lolled at epistemic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40618009) |
Date: July 15th, 2020 10:27 AM Author: Domesticated floppy plaza lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611605) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 10:41 AM Author: sticky mind-boggling point pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611640) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:29 AM Author: sticky mind-boggling point pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611865) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:34 AM Author: Tan Contagious Toaster well some teachers are old and not necessarily in the best health condition (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611904) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:37 AM Author: Lavender drunken mexican then they should go home and retire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611930) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:16 PM Author: Appetizing wine tank temple (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612115) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:23 PM Author: Slimy maroon volcanic crater school cafeteria Cr. Teaching kids about identity politics is just too dangerous a task for this society to pursue (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612156) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:35 AM Author: Arousing Antidepressant Drug Piazza Govt unions are evil (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611914) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:26 PM Author: aquamarine juggernaut tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612173) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:48 PM Author: ebony rebellious gas station philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612289) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:36 AM Author: Flesh Factory Reset Button There was near consensus that schools needed to be re-opened until Trump weighed in on the same.
There's a colorable argument that he now does more damage than good. Ideologically, sure never give an inch to shitlibs. They will brand any and all republicans as Hitler. But there is also pragmatism
I dont know the answer |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:37 AM Author: Lascivious Unholy Community Account Wait who's changing their mind about this based on Trump weighing in? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611928) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:14 PM Author: Spectacular Brilliant Boltzmann liberals. i wish dumb fuck trump would shut the fuck up about this so are kids can go to school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612444) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:38 AM Author: Lavender drunken mexican fuck off. stop trying to imprison my kids. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611932) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:39 AM Author: Crusty Legal Warrant International Law Enforcement Agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611940) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:45 AM Author: Flesh Factory Reset Button i dont think my post was clear.
its obvious all schools should be 100% open -- and to do anything less is child abuse.
my garbled point was that last spring everyone i talked to or read online seemed to support that idea. The APA supported it. My kids principal supported it.
Then Trump said the shit about holding back fed funds to schools that dont open, and within days there are think pieces and online arguments about death-schools and even the APA backtracked
Trump seemed to catalyze them and now it's a pro-Trump/anti-Trump issue
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:49 AM Author: Vivacious den doctorate Therefore, we all need to support libs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611997) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:51 PM Author: Elite purple ticket booth newt Trump is on the winning side. This is the sort of social preening issue that is at the heart of silent majority politics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612672) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:21 PM Author: Vivacious den doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40617845) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:48 AM Author: Vivacious den doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611990) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:36 AM Author: Vivacious den doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611918) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:36 AM Author: Crusty Legal Warrant International Law Enforcement Agency yeah it's sick these people are hysterical NPCs also daycare is somehow ok as an unfortunate necessity but school is not |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 3:49 PM Author: sepia stirring locale haunted graveyard Daycare workers don't have massive unions that give millions to Democrats. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40613411) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:08 PM Author: Excitant Nursing Home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40617784) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:37 AM Author: Passionate corn cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611925) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:38 AM Author: Lavender drunken mexican closing schools = child abuse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611934) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:45 AM Author: Pearly dilemma god most teachers are so fucking worthless.
I saw in a study somewhere that the avg teacher's union member (pub school) has something like a 1030 SAT score, attends a school ranked lower than Flagship State U in their region, takes zero or almost zero substantive classes in whatever subject they ultimately teach (aside from overlap w minimum distribution requirements like US History 101, and Introduction to Biology for Non Science Majors), and despite the obviously shit level of competition in the school of education still graduates on avg with like a 3.09 gpa.
fuck them: they're lucky to make $30k babysitting, and if six hour days with 3.5 months vacation/yr is more than they can bear they can go work retail or be a cashier. |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:51 AM Author: charismatic maniacal mental disorder institution even in the lower paying states they get something like 45k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612001) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:25 PM Author: low-t autistic foreskin theater Know a boomer 4th grade teacher in California that makes over 100k and will retire with a 100k pension for life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612167) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:47 AM Author: Lime diverse menage roommate but why DO you hate science???? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611986) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:15 PM Author: canary beady-eyed gaming laptop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612112) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:20 PM Author: charcoal patrolman genital piercing Teachers feel emboldened in part because most districts gave them full pay in the Spring when everything shut down. People will raise hell if teachers expect full pay with continued shutdowns in the Fall. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612137) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:31 PM Author: supple silver fanboi box office Not only that, but since "distance learning" was a huge dumpster fire where no one learned anything, some parents with smart kids were hiring teachers to tutor on the side.
So quite a decent percentage of teachers were actually making MORE money during the lockdown. |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:49 PM Author: sticky mind-boggling point pozpig No, people will not. People will nod along just like they're doing now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612293) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:11 PM Author: Flesh Factory Reset Button (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612418) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:53 PM Author: charcoal patrolman genital piercing Probably. Teacher worship has been pushed hard the last few years. Everyone will cuck our in fear of cancel culture. Hopefully teacher worship at least takes a hit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612689) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:27 PM Author: Pearl toilet seat space Teachers are saying WE NEED TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN as an excuse for their not wanting to work this fall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612178) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:48 PM Author: ebony rebellious gas station philosopher-king They will take a paycheck though TYVM (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612288) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:47 PM Author: ebony rebellious gas station philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612283) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:12 PM Author: razzle-dazzle range bbw women should be at home breeding babies and raising them to become productive members of society with good moral values
"schools" should be turned into prisons for the "homeless" |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:13 PM Author: Burgundy Duck-like Coffee Pot My wife’s a teacher and I told her she’s not going back this fall and she agrees. We’re in the south and cases are out of control here. Her father is 71, had a stroke and a lifetime smoker, he’s with us and our child constantly.
The shit salary they pay her just isnt worth it. If she can’t teach remote, she’ll use as much paid leave and other similar stuff as possible until they fire her. Either way, we’ll be fine. |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:15 PM Author: Spectacular Brilliant Boltzmann is she still going to receive her full paycheck? no offense to you and your wife but that's bullshit if so (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612447) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:17 PM Author: Burgundy Duck-like Coffee Pot If she’s required to go in and doesn’t, she can take a leave at 2/3 pay for some time and when that runs out, she uses PTO and then unpaid leave. Unclear whether she’ll have a job when/if she wants to come back.
Most of her coworkers are in the same spot, so I’m not sure how they are going to run smaller class sizes if half the teachers don’t come in. |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:20 PM Author: Spectacular Brilliant Boltzmann again, it's hard for me to make these comments without offending you so sorry if i do. and i'm not on the front lines i'm relegated to being a computer jockey during all of this so this is easy for me to say. but it sounds like her and "most of her coworkers" dgaf about kids if they are looking out for their own self interest above all even though it's not really likely that a kid can infect an adult and precautions can be taken to ensure that the adults don't infect each other. all that posturing about caring about the kids all along was total utter bullshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612473) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:22 PM Author: black preventive strike So cr And these asinine mixed schedules are actually more dangerous and worse. Reality is kid can go to school full time and basically go home. Teachers the same. But nyc is implementing one day on one day off lmfao what? So kids are wild 3 days a week or being babysat but Jamaicans? |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:32 PM Author: Burgundy Duck-like Coffee Pot You’re not offending me and I don’t completely disagree with you. She definitely cares about her kids, and so do her coworkers, but it’s to an extent. Some of her coworkers are in 50-60s and not really in great physical condition. These aren’t super educated urban teach for America libs.
I’m just looking out for myself and family. I dont care about her students. Im happy to be the bad guy so she doesn’t feel bad. |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:33 PM Author: Spectacular Brilliant Boltzmann sorry but they don't care about the kids at all. this is their chance to step up and their shrinking away. it's perfectly valid for you to be looking out solely for your family in this situation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612560) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:54 PM Author: Elite purple ticket booth newt They should quit. I don't work a dangerous job cuz I don't want to. Reality is there are a million (literally probably more) people willing to do the job just as effectively. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612699) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 3:52 PM Author: Umber Mildly Autistic Cuckoldry Location totally fair and reasonable on your part. if somebody told me i could basically quit my job but get paid anyway i’d jump at the opportunity. the bullshit part is the system is set up to allow this and it’s actively being encouraged by the chattering classes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40613427) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 11:57 AM Author: sepia stirring locale haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40617404) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:32 PM Author: Appetizing wine tank temple They should fire them and hire new teachers who are willing to do the job. The older ones should probably just call it a day. For them, it probably isn't worth the risk to continue being a teacher. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612544) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:33 PM Author: Burgundy Duck-like Coffee Pot There is already a massive teacher shortage here. Class sizes routinely 35+ because pay so low. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612563) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:37 PM Author: Appetizing wine tank temple They should probably pay more then. But they people they pay should have to come in and do the fucking job. Lots of jobs have risks, even before COVID. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612590) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:56 PM Author: Elite purple ticket booth newt Bullshit re any teacher shortage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612714) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 12:10 PM Author: cocky green turdskin twinkling uncleanness Unions make it impossible to become a teacher without getting bullshit education degrees (LOL) and going through union indoctrination seminars. It's why unions hate TFA. If you wanted to go back to ur small town and teach middle school history, the union would tell you to go fuck urself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40617459) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 3:16 PM Author: supple silver fanboi box office What percentage of school budget goes to pensions and health benefits for former teachers?
That’s usually the answer as to why pay is so low. |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 11:57 AM Author: sepia stirring locale haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40617406) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:15 PM Author: Flesh Factory Reset Button Pretty sure there is not one case, worldwide, of a child infecting an adult -- whether parent or teacher or caregiver. Not ONE case.
Nonetheless, sweet that you have a SAHM now, so congrats |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:18 PM Author: Burgundy Duck-like Coffee Pot She teaches 17-18 year olds (is that how old high school juniors/seniors are? my math is bad/lazy) It’s going to be hot so AC on and windows closed. It’s not worth the risk for a sub $50K salary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612461) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:20 PM Author: Flesh Factory Reset Button SMC chick? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612472) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:21 PM Author: Burgundy Duck-like Coffee Pot Not familiar with the acronym. She teaches AP Bio and occasionally chem and regular bio. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612480) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:22 PM Author: Flesh Factory Reset Button ah i thought for some reason you were a fellow domer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612489) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:25 PM Author: Burgundy Duck-like Coffee Pot Met her in my late 20s. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612509) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:16 PM Author: black preventive strike That's fine. So is keeping a kid out of school who had some health condition. What isn't fine is keeping EVERYONE out when those peeps have no fucking risk of dying |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:23 PM Author: Burgundy Duck-like Coffee Pot Elementary school seems safer and more essentially to have in person, even in high case states. The providers should be less in sanitation and more on keeping teachers/staff from coming near each other. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612497) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:24 PM Author: Frozen son of senegal principal's office Cr This lib faggot wants to end everyone’s life and kill them basically |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:31 PM Author: Appetizing wine tank temple She should seek other employment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612536) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:32 PM Author: Spectacular Brilliant Boltzmann cr. not sure if this is your point but this is teachers' one chance to step up for the kids and they're shrinking back like pussies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612549) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:36 PM Author: Appetizing wine tank temple I mean, if they don't feel like they are fairly compensated for the risks they face, then they should quit and do something else and let them hire new, younger teachers who are healthy and willing and capable of doing the job. If they have to raise the pay rates then they should do that too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612583) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:56 PM Author: Spectacular Brilliant Boltzmann ya fuck them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612713) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:25 PM Author: Razzmatazz zippy keepsake machete it is only a matter of time before special interest groups and lobbies of various types have a meme making group providing jobs to zoomers. looking forward to $80k masters programs in meme development in the future. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612508) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:26 PM Author: hideous internal respiration hell TBF, teachers already acted like they were heroes and not overpaid babysitters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612514) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:47 PM Author: Pink crawly church party of the first part Teachers are the ultimate bird brains, plus also the laziest occupation in society. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612650) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 2:51 PM Author: Swashbuckling sinister lay alpha The ground work has been laid for this as a while. There was nothing more fucking ridiculous than teachers teaching from home getting some kind of hero treatment through all of this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40613025) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 5:14 PM Author: violent cordovan field When you realize the primary purpose of the education system is to provide jobs for teachers and administrations, and that the kids are just collateral damage, it doesn't seem that insane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40613772) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 5:15 PM Author: Frozen son of senegal principal's office And these dumbfucks “teach” our children... sick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40613778) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 5:18 PM Author: Balding parlor queen of the night every union, everywhere, is always trying to get more $$$ for its members for less work. This is the entire purpose of unions. If a steelworker's union could somehow convince the plant to give them full pay for "remote work" where they just sat in front of a tv all day, they'd do it in an instant.
But of course if the steel union made that request, they'd be laughed out of the boardroom and they'd get zero sympathy from the public. The only difference is that the teacher's union somehow has such a grip on the public imagination that they can do whatever they want |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 12:12 PM Author: cocky green turdskin twinkling uncleanness Ljl at kid havers. This is a disaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40617468) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:18 PM Author: Provocative topaz idea he suggested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40617830) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:25 PM Author: Stubborn native pisswyrm They need to go back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40617872) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:03 PM Author: sticky mind-boggling point pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40618049) |