Date: March 13th, 2010 2:55 PM Author: brindle stead
To be fair,
While this is certainly debatable, I think anyone who doesn't see the writing on the wall at this point is either intentionally obtuse or just really, really hates faggots.
Date: March 13th, 2010 2:59 PM Author: brindle stead
To be fair,
To be fair, do you not see how a voter initiative for legalizing gay marriage predicated on the prevailing popular opinion among average Americans is completely and utterly different from SCOTUS - a non-majoritarian, non-democractic institution comprised of only 9 people, all of whom are highly educated and extremely intelligent - finding that a class is legally "protected" when it comes to something like this?
Do you think the holding in Brown v. Board would have passed a voter initiative in 1954?
It will take a long time for majoritarian support for gay rights to fully develop in the general population, but the writing is on the wall already and SCOTUS will get in on this issue with a landmark ruling in the next decade for sure. It's a matter of when, not if.
Date: March 13th, 2010 3:08 PM Author: brindle stead
To be fair,
"Actually..."
I wasn't aware of this; it might have been in line with overall popular sentiment among the aggregate U.S. population, but how strongly did the average supporter of integration hold that view compared to how strongly the average opponent held his view? If there was some sort of hypothetical "national referendum" on the issue I'm not sure integration would have carried the ballot for that reason, even if most of the American public supported it in some weak, abstract sense.
Date: March 13th, 2010 3:02 PM Author: brindle stead
To be fair,
"yeah man, those poor [blacks in 2010] and their inability to protect their political rights"
"yeah man, those poor [women who make up 51% of the American population and have had full and uninfringed voting rights for almost a century now] and their inability to protect their political rights"
Are you fucking stupid? Did your Conlaw class really teach you that this is the only metric that SCOTUS looks at when deciding which classes qualify for heightened scrutiny?
Date: March 13th, 2010 3:14 PM Author: brindle stead
To be fair,
Naw, honestly I don't even think that most of the Conservative wing of the current court has the heart to maintain a strong anti-gay facade much longer. If there were 5 Scalias you would be right, but Kennedy clearly knows which way the wind is blowing and I'm not sure how anti-homo Roberts/Alito were to begin with.
Date: March 13th, 2010 3:15 PM Author: naked spectacular telephone
Alito I'd guess is pretty anti-homo. Roberts is more squishy, but do you really think Kennedy would mandate national gay marriage? And the wind is blowing, but it's not that heavy a wind.
Date: March 13th, 2010 3:22 PM Author: brindle stead
To be fair,
Are you asking me whether, given the rising visibility of the gay rights movement and the overwhelming support for it among the younger-than-35 crowd, Justice Kennedy - who famously has a raging hard-on for his position as the swing vote on the court - will want to take the opportunity to insure that he will fondly be remembered in history books forever as the enlightened man who officially extended constitutional protections to gays?
Gee that's a tough one, I have to mull over this a bit
Date: March 13th, 2010 3:16 PM Author: naked spectacular telephone
you have no idea what the sociopolitical climate of 2010 will be. What's funny is that you're so violently anti-Semitic when jews tend to support your "rights"
Date: March 13th, 2010 3:28 PM Author: naked spectacular telephone
I'm not JWU.
i was mistaken - you're obviously not fag cause you were arguing with one in the other thread.
You're obviously a smart dood. But unless you are against foreign aid completely, don't know how you can be so strongly against aid to an ally that needs and deserves it without being bigoted. I did see your thread on it and joking about the Holocaust is a little below someone from a top law school, dont ya think? I'm pretty new here and didn't realize that was supposed to be funny.
If you want the Jews to be rounded up again, just fucking admit it without talking about our aid to them.
Date: March 13th, 2010 3:36 PM Author: Misunderstood Indigo Tank State
If you're trying to convince me this is not JWU, you're doing a pretty shitty job of it.
(1) Only JWU and you have mentioned the comment.
(2). You make the same inane extrapolation that anyone who is not a rabid Zionist or a supporter of Israel's policies is a Nazi. In fact you're makig a similar argument itt about me obsrving that gays will be a protected class equalling that I'm in favor of all manner of gay rights.
I call people faggots here all the time... That doesn't make me a homophobe. I'm normally pretty civil in my Israel discussions, but once I used a phrase that is similarly thrown around on this board all the time.
If that fucks with your sensibilities, JWU, then please move to another website.
Date: March 13th, 2010 3:40 PM Author: naked spectacular telephone
anyone who uses the term "rabid Zionist" = Nazi bigot, I see you didn't answer my question about foreign aid, and that's because you single out one country's aid for some unknown reason...
I saw he pwned you fucking good. you might wanna get off this board.
Date: March 13th, 2010 3:47 PM Author: Misunderstood Indigo Tank State
Ok good to see you've dropped the pretense that youre another poster. You are truly pathetic dood. Why don't you use the n word some more or threaten to out female posters who you claim are defaming your anonymous moniker you dumb piece of shit.
Date: March 13th, 2010 4:16 PM Author: Misunderstood Indigo Tank State
How about stalking women via gchat and threatening them; using the n-word; and saying African Americans were better off as slaves?
And I wasn't posting that threat as an example of something derogatory you've done. I was showing how you have a pattern of making outting threats like you're a frustrated 17 y/o.
BTW, this subthread destroys any claim you once had to only running a single moniker. As I recall that was one of your key defenses when people were accusing you of stalking AdidasSwiss. "Im not BigTurd, I only run one moniker!". LOL okay.
Date: March 13th, 2010 3:25 PM Author: brindle stead
To be fair,
"you have no idea what the sociopolitical climate of 2010 [sic] will be."
Please DESCRIBE the plausible scenario in which there is less support for gay rights in 2020 then there is now. Hell, please DESCRIBE the plausible scenario in which there is NOT significantly more support for gay rights in 2020 than there is now. Bear in mind that a ton of anti-gay olds will die in the intervening decade and that there is overwhelming support for homos among the under-35 crowd now (who will start to become the power players in the political process more and more as the decade progresses.)
Date: March 13th, 2010 3:36 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone newt
the queen laQueefa poster and TBF have the same boring MO: they've both said "Don't waste the effort" a couple times on this thread after getting stuck in an argument. that's how they escape whenever they get cornered. thus, my advice to you is that you don't waste the effort with that guy.
Date: March 13th, 2010 3:24 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone newt
i love how "to be fair" speaks so authoritativelty on con law topics. as if the misguided musings of some 1L (and a 1L who posts incessantly racial epithets on chatter-tweets like XOXO, at that) could ever be taken seriously.
the truth is no one really knows whether gays will be a protected class. all indications point to NO, and anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of how this stuff works acknowledges that. the boies case is dead in the water.
Date: March 13th, 2010 3:31 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone newt
i *DOUBLE DOG DARE* you to describe the logical steps you took to conclude that my prediction on the boies case somehow means that "If Boies loses, the gays will quietly slink away and US society will freeze forever."
Date: March 13th, 2010 3:49 PM Author: Misunderstood Indigo Tank State
The prediction was gays will becoem a protected class in the next decade. You responded that we don't know that and that"The boies case is dead in the water."
So which was it...Were you jus spewing whatever gay-related fact came to mind, or were you making any link whatsoever withthe OP?
Date: March 13th, 2010 3:32 PM Author: brindle stead
To be fair,
Don't waste the effort. That's furio trolling me bc I dont believe that he was once an "objective 180" poster who "used to run this board for years" under his previous (conveniently undisclosed) moniker and that the only reason why people don't recognize his obvious brilliance now is because the board has fallen from grace and is now filled exclusively with idiots.
Date: March 13th, 2010 3:27 PM Author: brindle stead
To be fair,
Right I'm a dumb 1L etc., please carry on and tell us what people with "real" insight that wasn't "spoon fed to them by a Conlaw professor" (you) think of this issue in which "clearly" all of the relevant signs point to "no."
Date: March 13th, 2010 3:41 PM Author: brindle stead
To be fair,
The posting of a complete stranger on an anonymous internet chat message board effects you deeply enough to prompt you to type the phrase "i hate you dearly."