Have yet to hear a single valid argument against antinatalism
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Date: October 31st, 2017 4:27 PM Author: concupiscible lake lay
Have you read Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids?
How about this - philosophy and arguments are flame. You're programmed to prefer your kin, and your kids are close kin. Hence your best bet at creating people you like, on a deep level, is to have a bunch of kids.
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Date: October 31st, 2017 4:33 PM Author: Rose area quadroon
thats just childfree
antinatalism goes a step further and says all procreation is unethical - humans, animals, basically anything that can suffer
an antinatalist wouldnt want to create a person they like because they would be sentencing them to suffering and ultimately death. if anything, they would be ok with creating people they *don't* like for the same reasons
read this scholarship for more info: http://cnqzu.com/library/Philosophy/David_Benatar_-_Better_Never_to_Have_Been.pdf
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781180&forum_id=2#34572504) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 4:47 PM Author: Rose area quadroon
no it's not
if "you" HAD never existed the world would go on. someone else would take your place (ie your parents having another child). someone else would be your wife's husband, your boss's employee, etc. no one would even know or care that "you" never existed. there are an infinite amount of people who never existed for whatever reason (eg some guy got whiskey dick when he tried to hook up with a chick)
saying you wish you didn't exist RIGHT NOW is problematic. you would cause suffering to your family, friends, loved ones, etc. your boss would be scrambling to find a replacement to generate more revenue for shareholders
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781180&forum_id=2#34572651) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 4:41 PM Author: Rose area quadroon
"something is better than nothing" -> so an african baby born with AIDS who starves and dies is better than if he never existed?
per benatar: the absence of pain is good, even if that good is not enjoyed by anyone;the absence of pleasure is not bad unless there is somebody for whom this absence is a deprivation
it's not "not wanting to live." once we exist we should make the most of it and seek meaning however we can.
it's about bringing more life into the world
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781180&forum_id=2#34572584) |
Date: November 1st, 2017 9:59 AM Author: 180 pit faggotry
hahahahha anti-natalism is seriously some brainlet shit. if you haven't grown out of that by your mid-20s you need to put a little more effort into not being a pussy
read some nietzsche, exercise regularly, take stims or test supplements if you have to. stop being a bitch and embrace life for what it is
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781180&forum_id=2#34578077) |
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Date: November 1st, 2017 1:20 PM Author: Rose area quadroon
No
There is a significant difference between a life worth starting and a life worth continuing
In his book Benatar compares life to a movie. Imagine that you paid to go see a movie and it ends up being disappointing half-way throughout compared to your expectations. Yet you might not leave because you'll tell yourself that 'you paid for it so might as well stay' or that it 'might get better later on', however if you had the possibility to go back, get your money and not start seeing the movie, you would probably take it.
Well it's the same thing with life, the movie of life might suck for a lot of people, but since it's already started most people will not be willing to leave in the middle and will tolerate far more than if they were offered the opportunity of never having been born.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781180&forum_id=2#34579442) |
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Date: November 1st, 2017 1:29 PM Author: Rose area quadroon
Sunk cost fallacy actually applies to natalism. Billions of lives have existed, served no purpose, and achieved nothing.
There's also the prospect that death is scary and would hurt those around you. So no, antinatalism does not naturally lead to suicide, although antinatalists are more understanding of those who are suicidal and use it as an argument not to bring any more suicidal people into existnce.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781180&forum_id=2#34579496)
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Date: November 1st, 2017 1:41 PM Author: 180 pit faggotry
"What's your justification for bringing sentient life into existence, knowing very well it will suffer and die?"
i'm not a whiny solipsistic faggot
checkmate anti-natalists
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781180&forum_id=2#34579595) |
Date: November 1st, 2017 2:00 PM Author: fuchsia underhanded cuckold mediation
Just assume that there is a moral obligation to have a kid if that kid would be happy and a moral obligation not to have a kid if that kid would be unhappy.
Antinatalists assume there is no moral obligation to have a kid even if that kid would be happy; therefore, not having kids dominates having kids in their moral framework.
But the antinatalist assumption that there is no moral obligation to have a kid if that kid would be happy doesn’t seem clear.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781180&forum_id=2#34579713) |
Date: November 4th, 2017 9:53 PM Author: Rose area quadroon
Response to jordan Peterson on antinatalism
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T1P-VKwrhkI
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781180&forum_id=2#34606092) |
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