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MI Judge ORDERS TSINAH to stop using dragon watermark on legal filings
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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: mind-boggling windowlicker tank From Magistrate Judge Ray Kent's Order Striking Complaint today in Doe No. 2 v. Clinton County (W.D. Mich.):
Each page of plaintiff's complaint appears on an e-filing which is dominated by a large multi-colored cartoon dragon dressed in a suit, presumably because she is represented by the law firm of "Dragon Lawyers PC © Award Winning Lawyers". See Compl. (ECF No. 1). Fed. R. Civ. P. 12(f)(1) allows a court to "strike from a pleading an insufficient defense or any redundant, immaterial, impertinent, or scandalous matter." Use of this dragon cartoon logo is not only distracting, it is juvenile and impertinent. The Court is not a cartoon. Accordingly,
IT IS ORDERED that plaintiff's complaint (ECF No. 1) is STRICKEN. Plaintiff is directed to file an amended complaint, containing the same allegations as the original complaint, without the cartoon dragon by no later than May 5, 2025.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that plaintiff shall not file any other documents with the cartoon dragon or other inappropriate content.
https://reason.com/volokh/2025/04/28/exit-the-dragon/
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:22 PM Author: comical theatre he should refile with a calvin peeing on a judge watermark (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717740&forum_id=2#48890793) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: Soul-stirring temple french chef Jealous colleagues of DRAGON LAW after he showed them a hard copy of the pleading: "Oh my God it has a watermark" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717740&forum_id=2#48891980) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 7:51 AM Author: vermilion background story Let's talk about the placement of the "/s" here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717740&forum_id=2#48892732) |
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Date: May 1st, 2025 8:46 AM Author: Aromatic rehab also the other, smaller dragon in the bottom right corner, in case one were to inadvertently overlook the primary dragon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717740&forum_id=2#48895779) |
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Date: May 1st, 2025 8:49 AM Author: comical theatre holy shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717740&forum_id=2#48895792) |
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Date: May 1st, 2025 10:02 AM Author: Beady-eyed nighttime crotch halford (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717740&forum_id=2#48895984) |
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Date: May 1st, 2025 10:04 AM Author: Glittery Hideous Therapy Shitlib auxiliary filing dragon: shrewd or decadent? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717740&forum_id=2#48895986) |
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Date: May 1st, 2025 10:52 AM Author: Anal bipolar regret hall Judge’s order seems concerned about the suit dragon. Maybe he should just remove it and enlarge the other one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717740&forum_id=2#48896074) |
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Date: May 1st, 2025 2:21 PM Author: vermilion background story I think that's just the paper it's printed on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717740&forum_id=2#48896605) |
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Date: June 11th, 2025 3:40 AM Author: Brass cocky deer antler it'd be 180 if he has a paper company make paper with the dragon watermark for delivering courtesy copies of the pleadings to the court (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717740&forum_id=2#49004403) |
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Date: May 1st, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Demanding wonderful corner Saw this in the NYT yesterday. Best marketing ever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717740&forum_id=2#48895805) |
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Date: May 1st, 2025 7:58 PM Author: Beady-eyed nighttime crotch halford Also his phone number is given as (844) JAKELAW
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