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Date: August 23rd, 2019 10:53 AM Author: mildly autistic sapphire ceo brunch
The pre-cambrian creatures just had to simply mutate their DNA, landing on the one-in-ten-trillion-trillion-trillion chance that a new protein would be useful, and early enough in fetal development, and do that a gazillion times for enough proteins to develop some useful new adaptation that branched off a new species, all the while avoiding the trap that nearly all mutations are fatal before reproduction occurs?
And this explosion of mathematically near-impossible mutations all happened in a geological blink-of-an-eye, and among thousands of species? Everyone just won the lottery just before the Cambrian period and sheep with weirdly large intestines and misformed feet suddenly became horses, instead of dying?
Also, oops, left no fossil trail.
seems legit
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4329077&forum_id=2#38730060) |
Date: August 23rd, 2019 10:58 AM Author: Provocative Forum
Evolution is like the ultimate scientific theory for liberal artists/psuedointellectuals/reddit atheists because there are no maths or even science really. I have never seen a discussion/debate about evolution that doesn't either:
1. Beg the question, or use it as a rationalisation for itself
2. Differentiate the obvious micro-evolution for birds in the galapagos or human dick sizes versus the massive leap in logic required in order to form the human eye or Monkeys arising from nothing in the era subsequent to the dinosaurs in mere millions of years (not billions or trillions, which would at least make sense).
3. Avoid referring to using the word "evolution" in place of God/intelligent design. i.e., "Humans have incisors to bite into food because of Evolution."
Jewishness, and Yahweh's omnipotence, will be proven correct in the long run imho. Seriousness aside, there is an impetus behind things that has alluded lazy scientists hitherto.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4329077&forum_id=2#38730092) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2019 11:07 AM Author: Titillating bistre multi-billionaire death wish
It doesn't. Plus, the evidence for common ancestry is overwhelming. Yes, we are extremely different from monkeys but a chimp and human genome are 99.9% the same.
In any case, evolution is OVER because 1) we can now edit human DNA at the germ line, adding or removing or editing any gene and so we now have a power that is utterly incomprehensible and society is woefully unprepared to deal with and 2) we will soon be using technological upgrades to transcend this biological substrate that took millions of years to evolve but will become about as relevant as a first gen iPod in just a few decades.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4329077&forum_id=2#38730121) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2019 11:10 AM Author: mildly autistic sapphire ceo brunch
im telling you, critics explain the math even for dumbs like me. landing on a viable protein through randomly mutating DNA, which orders the amino acids, is dealing with exponential numbers in the trillions-trillions-trillions. And winning that lottery just gets you one good protein. That then has to combine with other lottery winners to form some adaptation at just the right moment in gestation to change the animal's form. And that change is almost certainly likely to cause early death.
Hitting all the right combos on one species, such that it evolves to a brand new species, would be astounding. To do so as a way to explain the origin of ALL these cambrian species is unreasonable. Even a hundred million years doesnt give you enough generations, mathematically. And the cambrian explosion of species didnt have half that time.
Darwin knew nothing about cellular development and DNA code, obviously. His theory only works for local mutations, like longer beaks. Not for horses arising out of frogs.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4329077&forum_id=2#38730136) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2019 11:24 AM Author: mildly autistic sapphire ceo brunch
lol u have no knowledge of this.
there were not billions of years to get it done and that is the main point. We know when these creatures didnt exist and then existed.
these species originated between the pre-cambrian and cambrian, and the window of their origins is disputed to be between 10M and 70M years.
the whole criticism is saying "you probably couldnt duplicate this bookshelf of text with the time limit we have", and youre saying, "YES WE COULD... if we had a lot more time". No shit.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4329077&forum_id=2#38730216) |
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Date: August 24th, 2019 9:12 AM Author: aqua crusty ape state
except Darwin thought it happened due to math.
except he was just a polysci shithead and couldn't do math.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4329077&forum_id=2#38734774)
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Date: August 23rd, 2019 11:14 AM Author: Supple set headpube
"macro-evolution" isn't falsifiable and is in the same category as evolutionary psychology - something that can be inferred to a certain confidence level and if true, successfully explains the world around us, but is far from actual "science" and certainly not concrete fact
micro-evolution is real science and we can directly observe it
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4329077&forum_id=2#38730155) |
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Date: August 24th, 2019 11:47 AM Author: concupiscible blood rage
>we don't have any fossil record of transitional species
if a fossil isn't of a currently living species, then it's a fossil of a transitional species
wtf do you think "transitional species" means
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4329077&forum_id=2#38735124) |
Date: August 23rd, 2019 7:02 PM Author: Vigorous orchestra pit
Take a drawer of silverware. Throw it violently against the kitchen wall. Repeat this ten million times.
What are the odds the silverware will fall at random into a configuration that crudely approximates the structure of the Eiffel tower?
How much more intricate is the human brain?
Sure, just a series of random mutations, the blind result of an impersonal universe's getting on some kind of hot streak.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4329077&forum_id=2#38733027) |
Date: August 24th, 2019 9:28 AM Author: mildly autistic sapphire ceo brunch
the tldr version is:
1. darwin looks at species explosion and says, probably random mutation leading to these new species
2. modern bros: we know now shit you didnt, in particular how long it would take to do random mutations and there wasnt enough time in the window
3. darwin fanbois: but forget the window, time is infinite
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4329077&forum_id=2#38734805) |
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