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is america the least racist country there is?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/03/world/in-sweden-the-land-o...
Fragrant awkward space
  01/02/15
thank god there's no anti muslim sentiment in the US oh wait
Dull old irish cottage
  01/02/15
yeah lol at this, muslims are only group u can openly shit o...
Soggy glittery azn spot
  01/02/15
funny thing is that we barely have any muslims at all in the...
Dull old irish cottage
  01/02/15
cause reptiles are inherently racist. they hate everyone. if...
Soggy glittery azn spot
  01/02/15
it's pretty telling that the commenters on a vehemently raci...
Dull old irish cottage
  01/02/15
its lol and interesting as fuck that white shit americans wh...
Soggy glittery azn spot
  01/02/15
yep they even accuse euros of being "private racists&qu...
Dull old irish cottage
  01/02/15
apparently in america u are not a racist unless u proclaim b...
Soggy glittery azn spot
  01/02/15
are you less racist than this guy? http://i.ytimg.com/vi/...
Dull old irish cottage
  01/02/15
bein racist against white supremist and imperialistc is not ...
Soggy glittery azn spot
  01/02/15
Bro, have you ever been to Dearborn? Stores entirely written...
stimulating blood rage cuckoldry
  01/02/15
just stfu stormfront shit.. tons of them are not going to IS...
Soggy glittery azn spot
  01/02/15
Probably Canada, but USA is a close second.
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  01/02/15
Canada Scandi countries Rest of Earth South Africa ...
Soggy glittery azn spot
  01/02/15
(Shut-in)
Arousing Unholy Field
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cr
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Transparent Degenerate Theater
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LOL faggot no. It has the MOST racial tension of any country...
Soggy glittery azn spot
  01/02/15
indians can't be black panthers, nigger
Fragrant awkward space
  01/02/15
soo true.
sexy locale
  01/02/15
racial tension =/= racism. rather, it's perceived microaggre...
Razzle-dazzle Site
  01/02/15
okay stormfront dude
Soggy glittery azn spot
  01/02/15
Bro Europe & Asia are far more racist than the U.S. It's...
topaz bull headed school faggotry
  01/02/15
cr
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how many kkk members in denmark?
Dull old irish cottage
  01/02/15
europe doesn't need a KKK - they have mainstream political p...
Fragrant awkward space
  01/02/15
Nah, this is the deal. Euros never dealt with slavery and po...
Soggy glittery azn spot
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"Euros never dealt with slavery and political racism as...
topaz bull headed school faggotry
  01/02/15
LJL so now being anti racist is the ability to talk with fri...
Soggy glittery azn spot
  01/02/15
ppl in the US aren't comfertable talking about race? really?...
Dull old irish cottage
  01/02/15
(dude who acknowledges speech censorship as shitlib ideal)
Judgmental Violet State Foreskin
  01/02/15
hate speech is not worth protecting hth
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thriller mint juggernaut
  01/02/15
americans BOTH more race conscious and MORE racist
thriller mint juggernaut
  01/02/15
KOREA SO RACIST
fuchsia house
  08/09/21
like american imperialism
fuchsia house
  10/14/25
Koreans are racist AF
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whites are the least racist race bro
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in before TT edit: too late
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Canada, eh.
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*most
Dull old irish cottage
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only because we have so many non-whites here now
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obviously
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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:06 PM
Author: Fragrant awkward space

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/03/world/in-sweden-the-land-of-the-open-door-anti-muslim-sentiment-finds-a-foothold.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044311)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:18 PM
Author: Dull old irish cottage

thank god there's no anti muslim sentiment in the US oh wait

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044401)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:19 PM
Author: Soggy glittery azn spot

yeah lol at this, muslims are only group u can openly shit on.. recently the tinder founder was shitting on muslims in some emails that got disclosed and he still has his jerb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044413)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:24 PM
Author: Dull old irish cottage

funny thing is that we barely have any muslims at all in the US (like .8%). yet we have reptiles proposing bills to ban sharia law

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/30/us-usa-florida-sharialaw-idUSBREA3T14H20140430

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044449)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:26 PM
Author: Soggy glittery azn spot

cause reptiles are inherently racist. they hate everyone. if they cld they'd go back to slavery and bannign other races. XO white reptile shits prove this is true. its 100% true, tehy are just as racist as ppl in the 50's`



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044459)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:28 PM
Author: Dull old irish cottage

it's pretty telling that the commenters on a vehemently racist website refuse to acknowledge the existence of racism in the united states

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044470)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:30 PM
Author: Soggy glittery azn spot

its lol and interesting as fuck that white shit americans who are 100% okay with being racist on the internet are AGHAST at being called racists

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044479)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:32 PM
Author: Dull old irish cottage

yep they even accuse euros of being "private racists", which is somehow worse than the public racists who populate the republican party

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044482)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:33 PM
Author: Soggy glittery azn spot

apparently in america u are not a racist unless u proclaim being a racist and get a tattoo on ur forehead saying u are a racist, otherwise its just libturds playing the race card

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044489)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:35 PM
Author: Dull old irish cottage

are you less racist than this guy?

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ezoxEonY_ME/hqdefault.jpg

if so, you are not a racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044500)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:40 PM
Author: Soggy glittery azn spot

bein racist against white supremist and imperialistc is not being racist just like hating men is not being sexist according to feminazis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044522)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:53 PM
Author: stimulating blood rage cuckoldry

Bro, have you ever been to Dearborn? Stores entirely written in Arabic, call to pray is audible every morning in every neighborhood at like 4:30 AM, and none of the stores stock alcohol or pork.

The sad part is that the first gen immigrant parents work hard as fuck and lean reptile. Their kids got soft from not being gassed/raped/shot and turned to radical islam because of their teenage angst. Tons of them are now going to join ISIL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044596)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 11:00 PM
Author: Soggy glittery azn spot

just stfu stormfront shit.. tons of them are not going to ISIS. they just want to fuk bitches and listen to hip hop u fucking queer... its insane how angry white racist fucks like u are.. dont u have better shit to do like defecating on asian bitches?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044649)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:08 PM
Author: misunderstood indian lodge yarmulke

Probably Canada, but USA is a close second.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044317)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:09 PM
Author: Soggy glittery azn spot

Canada

Scandi countries

Rest of Earth

South Africa

USA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044329)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 11:00 PM
Author: Arousing Unholy Field

(Shut-in)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044645)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:16 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Site

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044385)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:36 PM
Author: Transparent Degenerate Theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044502)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:09 PM
Author: Soggy glittery azn spot

LOL faggot no. It has the MOST racial tension of any country on Earth, only South Africa can compete. Americans are raised from birth with so many fucking angry racist stereotypes. Its sad. And Americans in general are just afraid of the unknown and the "other", they are major pussies.

The US is PC but underneath it all its a fucking epic racist society. Always has been, and still is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044326)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:10 PM
Author: Fragrant awkward space

indians can't be black panthers, nigger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044337)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:16 PM
Author: sexy locale

soo true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044388)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:17 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Site

racial tension =/= racism. rather, it's perceived microaggression slights by mentally ill libs and didn'-do-nuffin blacks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044395)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:18 PM
Author: Soggy glittery azn spot

okay stormfront dude

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044408)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:19 PM
Author: topaz bull headed school faggotry

Bro Europe & Asia are far more racist than the U.S. It's not even close. It's mainstream opinion in most of the world. In Europe it's at least frowned upon in public but they are privately much more racist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044410)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:24 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Site

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044450)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:25 PM
Author: Dull old irish cottage

how many kkk members in denmark?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044454)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 11:24 PM
Author: Fragrant awkward space

europe doesn't need a KKK - they have mainstream political parties comprised of KKK members

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044805)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:25 PM
Author: Soggy glittery azn spot

Nah, this is the deal. Euros never dealt with slavery and political racism as in the US. Its just not engrained. In the US whiteys are really angry as fuck at nigs and its political. The GOP is built on getting angry white voters. There is just no comparison. Euros may say shit but the genuine anger is just no there. It's funny that this RACIST as fuck boart hates when ppl call the US racist. LOLLLLLLLLL WHITEY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044455)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:33 PM
Author: topaz bull headed school faggotry

"Euros never dealt with slavery and political racism as in the US. Its just not engrained."

I actually think this is why it's the opposite from your conclusion. Euros never really had the establishment/celebrities/etc. dousing them 24/7 with carebear anti-racism stuff that we've had here for at least 40+ years now. As a result almost no one here would feel comfortable talking even with close friends, let alone in a place of business, about anything remotely considered racist. In Europe & Asia, they don't have that backstory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044485)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:34 PM
Author: Soggy glittery azn spot

LJL so now being anti racist is the ability to talk with friends and co-workers about how u hate niggas?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044496)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:34 PM
Author: Dull old irish cottage

ppl in the US aren't comfertable talking about race? really? and last time i checked euro was way more shitlib on basically every issue than the US

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044497)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:40 PM
Author: Judgmental Violet State Foreskin

(dude who acknowledges speech censorship as shitlib ideal)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044517)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:46 PM
Author: Dull old irish cottage

hate speech is not worth protecting hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044552)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:58 PM
Author: thriller mint juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044631)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:37 PM
Author: thriller mint juggernaut

americans BOTH more race conscious and MORE racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044506)



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Date: August 9th, 2021 2:27 AM
Author: fuchsia house

KOREA SO RACIST

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#42919254)



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Date: October 14th, 2025 9:05 PM
Author: fuchsia house

like american imperialism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#49349471)



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Date: October 14th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Site

Koreans are racist AF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#49349478)



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Date: October 14th, 2025 9:12 PM
Author: fuchsia house

whites are the least racist race bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#49349481)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:47 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#49386086)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 9:50 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Site

https://x.com/sfakmal/status/1981647983369408854

Koreans love being praised by America but look down on Southeast Asians. They cry about racism when it's against them, then mock others with the same tone. That's not confidence, it's colonial trauma recycled as pride. 🤡

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#49386381)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 9:47 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#49386369)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 9:50 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Site

https://x.com/mazthemiata/status/1981504425723302296

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#49386376)



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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#49386417)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:11 PM
Author: Kink-friendly property

in before TT

edit: too late

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044342)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:49 PM
Author: Indigo hairraiser heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044569)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:14 PM
Author: comical garnet stead

Canada, eh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044368)



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Date: January 2nd, 2015 10:17 PM
Author: Dull old irish cottage

*most

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#27044399)



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Date: October 14th, 2025 9:10 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Site

only because we have so many non-whites here now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#49349480)



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Date: October 30th, 2025 6:08 PM
Author: Provocative Mahogany Hell

obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#49388820)



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Date: March 11th, 2026 3:59 AM
Author: Ocher exciting becky

so many low iq shitlibs in this thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#49733977)



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Date: March 11th, 2026 10:31 PM
Author: Alcoholic rusted organic girlfriend

historically it's an anomaly and i don't consider it a particularly racist nation, to no small amount of irritation on my end

prior to all the left wing racial agitation race relations were pretty good here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2773192&forum_id=2#49736207)