Walk us through the moment you first greet her to sticking it in.

What kind of timetable was this? Did you discuss her expectations? Did she tell you it was typical for her to fuck a person within minutes of first meeting them? Did you make your expectation of immediate sex clear to her during your conversation, or do you just push for sex relentlessly once you establish a a little rapport?

Give me a dry, factual narrative of what you did and talked about from moment one all the way to the sex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31490163)

Did she seem in any way surprised that your hands were all over her within 5 minutes of meeting her?

When you started pushing toward actual sex, did she show any trepidation or concern over what was happening? Did she seem very comfortable and familiar with this scenario?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31490282)

Did she say she frequently has sex with guys immediately after she meets them? Has a girl ever led off with this comment to you, or do you otherwise vet them for openness to having sex right after your first conversation and without knowing anything about you?

What is your usual "move" in this scenario, and how did you know she would be receptive? How often does the "move" fail. Do you just give up if she seems nervous about getting down to business 5 minutes after she meets you, or do you keep pressing? Any of them ever freak out on you for getting physical so quickly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31490359)

Tell me more about this. So a large percentage of these normal young women in Seoul use these dating apps, and a significant and identifiable portion are up for just showing up and fucking guys, no strings? Like, this girl said she's met a few guys on there. Is it assumable that a girl like her also fucked them after chatting for 5 minutes, since she was so open to doing this with you? Is this a fairly normal thing in Korea and we don't understand because our culture tends to be so much more prudish?

I would also be very curious to hear how you escalate making out on the couch to sex. We all know the feeling of mutual interest in sex when things turn physical but for most people that moment comes after knowing each other much better than you know these women. So these women all show the same thing, which is that they're open to physical contact with you immediately after meeting you, but then it's your experience that they're also usually open to sex? And both of those things are assumed if they'll come straight to your place? How often do the three factors not align?

"now, lets say i had met a girl under different circumstances and brought her back to my place, its obviously much higher id have to approach things slightly differently. all depends on the situation, really"

Yeah, I would assume it does. You have posted a lot about meeting women out on the street or just out running around and then immediately fucking them in your apartment. How often do these chance encounters work out like the app girls, where they are down to fuck you within just a few minutes?

Do a lot of Korean guys know about these app girls and take advantage of the situation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31490455)

In your estimation, what percentage of attractive young women on your dating app fall into this category? How many of every 100 women you contact turn out to be a member of this sought after group? Do you assume they fuck other guys in this manner? Ever continue fucking them and find out they do tend to fuck a lot of guys NSA and practically sight unseen?

Do you worry that women who are willing to take risks like this and engage near strangers in this fashion have mental issues, or a history of sexual abuse? Or drug and alcohol problems?

I have questions about the coffee shop scenarios as well. Don't want to overload you so please start with the contents of this post before we address anything else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31490601)

Of course, I even said so.

"of course i know a lot of korean guys who are on apps. online dating is very common here, like i said"

It's very common here as well. Do you know other Korean guys with your success level? Due to the penetration of dating apps in Korean culture, does pretty much everyone know that there is a not insignificant portion of app users who engage in these meet-and-bang encounters and it's always out there for you if you want it? Like, it's really no different than craigslist casual encounters when you get down to it. The women clearly desire immediate sex with no knowledge of the other person and no obligations, and the guys seeking it out are obviously onboard.

"well if you want hard numbers, obviously only a small percentage of women i meet online i end up meeting IRL. but the great thing about my filters is that i only meet up DTF girls so it saves me a lot of trouble"

Right, but give me the actual numbers. You automatically screen for women you find attractive and are geographically accessible. Beyond that, how many of women in those two categories do you typically text with before you find one that you know will meet your for effortless NSA sex?

"women are whores, dewd."

Well, the ones you are seeking out certainly meet that standard. I don't imagine you care too much, but wouldn't you also agree that women who are willing to do what these women do with you are not representative of the wider female population in Korea?

"all women have baggage and other issues. doesnt matter to me as long as i am getting mine."

Men too. Many of us have serious, potentially crippling baggage and issues. Not sure how we pivoted to this topic based on my previous questions.

So for the coffee shop meet-ups, what percentage wind up back at your apartment. And of that percentage, how many wind up fucking you the day they meet you? Without the bright line signaling of an app chick coming directly to your apartment, how do you gauge their receptiveness to immediate sex? Meeting for coffee and agreeing to check out your place are both very normal events for anyone on a date and in no way telegraph promiscuity. What do you rely on in these situations?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31490812)

How does what you're doing invoke hypergamy?

Get your buddy to post about his exploits more. The kind of numbers you are talking about are truly rarefied air

"of course app girls are not representative of all korean women."

Right. You are targeting a very particular type of woman that has a particular set of values and risk tolerance and attitude toward sex.

Ever have a girl come straight over to your place and she seems like a lock for sex, then refuses or freaks out when you make the 'move.'

"ut honestly even without apps there are a TON of ways to meet DTF women so there are still plenty of ways to get the ONS here."

Imagine you can't use online communication and texting and stuff as the main driver for locating women. Instead you are restricted to women you meet out in the world and through normal socialization. Let's say you set these rules for yourself as a challenge. Realistically, how often are you fucking a new person?

"coffee shop dates? prob 75%+ i end up gging the same day."

Thanks, but that isn't very responsive to my question. Also, do you have some kind of DOWN TO FUCK screener you use for the coffee shop dates? Women willing to fuck you day of meeting you, converted from a coffee shop meeting to fucking you, is amazing. Way above normal rates for most guys.

So it's really not the women with the 'come directly to the apartment' crowd. It's still you to a very large extent. You're only about 25% more successful when you filter for women who will come directly to your apartment, which you say is guaranteed sex. Normal dates still end in sex 3/4 of the time. How do you screen for this kind of woman when setting up the coffee dates, if at all?

Can you post a convo with an english speaker you found and fucked after a coffee date?

"very rarely do i meet up a girl for a second date if she doesnt put out on the first."

What if you really enjoy her company and find yourself emotionally connecting with her? Don't you ever just want to speak with them more, go somewhere with them, learn about them, spend time with them, share things with them? What if you guys really hit it off and everything is lovely, and she's smoking hot by the way, but she just isn't ready for sex right away. Everything else is great and she's not a prude-she's just unwilling to fuck a near stranger. Wouldn't you want to pursue that? It's natural to feel that way about some people.

"well there are literally a million ways to know if a girl is DTF other than agreeing to coming directly to your apartment. but i always try to get physical and if she is receptive then its gg. the most effective method."

Right, but what are some others. Like others that you would use prior to just pouncing on her and seeing how she reacts.

Also, I keep asking and you keep ignoring: any of them freak out or react badly when you start tongue humping them 10 minutes after sitting down on the couch? What do you do if this happens?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31490923)

Do you have any saved english text convos where you are screening these girls for their sexual values or explaining how important skinship is for you? If not, what does this dialog sound like, more or less?

"So, I've enjoyed the last four minutes of our conversation. I really like you already. I want you to know, however, that that sex is very critical for me and I have serious expectations and requirements in that area." *leans in for the 'move'*

Do women ever discuss your sexual expectations and in turn discuss their own?

Also, would really like to hear an answer to what happens when you find yourself accidentally catching feelings. It must happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491178)

So far as some saying they prefer to move slower, we're not talking about the apartment girls, right? Am I assuming correctly that they never say this since they are fucking you within an hour 99% of the time?

How do you introduce the topic of discussing your values so soon after meeting someone for the first time? Is that a cultural thing? In the US, you probably remember that it's very odd to have such a candid and revealing conversation with someone you don't know very well. People know each other for years without having that sort of talk and it would be almost universally weird to do it shortly after meeting someone. Do you remember that being the case?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491268)

That's doesn't make Seoul sound very FIRST WORLD my friend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491315)

-your family gives you money and if you have any kind of decent lifestyle, this is why.

-you are not jacked. you are pretty fat, you have uneven development, zero aesthetics. you are medium strong for a small asian man.

-you were a fucking virgin through college and an absolute loser growing up. never forget.

-"harvard of korea" thank you, needed a laugh

-you are not good looking by korean and US standards.

-"tight game paired with super aggression and experience." you sound like a fourteen year old. that is because you are 14-16 on an emotional level. there is some irony in the fact that a lot of 14-16 guys are having their first sexual experiences with other people. you were definitely still humping your pillow every night at this stage of your life.

-i have no problem believing your family probably has a little money which is the only reason you have ever been able to do anything in life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491590)

as a guy who is also living in Asia, what he does right now still makes him an absolute loser. the reason he posts on xoxo so much is because none of the shit he does and devotes 100% of his free time to can be discussed in polite company.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491602)

just last week, i met up with my friends on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday. I skipped on Sunday. Given what you do, it's literally impossible for you to have a normal circle of friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491624)

dood, you need to reach out to someone, preferably family, for an intervention. your current lifestyle is completely fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491646)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491684)

NYU?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491628)

let me make my point clearer. do you know which school is better - the university of ghana or the university of cape coast? is one of those two schools "the harvard of ghana"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491687)

Interesting.

"Perhaps the bonobo's most typical sexual pattern, undocumented in any other primate, is genito-genital rubbing (or GG rubbing) between adult females,"

See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_position#Genital-genital_rubbing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491618)

"I have to get paid for this. It's just how I do things. I want you to fuck me senseless, but you have to pay me 50,000 Won if you put your cock in me. You can't fuck me if you won't pay."

Do you greedily start plowing, unconcerned with that paltry sum exchanged for what is surely going to be an A+ romp? Or do you take immediate offense, sternly explain to her that you're not the kind of guy who has to pay for it, and then indignantly kick her out for assuming you're some loser trick and her lifestyle of prostitution disgusts you?

Former or the latter? Or a third scenario, where maybe you pull back, talk to her some more, try to secure a free bang with your seductive abilities and natural charm? You'd lose the energy of the moment, but you could still try to salvage the situation. Or do you agree to pay and then stiff her afterward, not sure of what the consequences might be?

What's your reaction to this exact hypo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31490242)

Tell me what you suspect you would do, exactly, and walk me through what you think will happen.

If she made it clear that you're not fucking for free no matter what, what do you do? Show her the door or pay her?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31490396)

Is the problem that you object to the practice of prostitution? If so, why? What's wrong with it? Again, assume the amount of money is not material. I know you don't have a great deal of disposable income, but this isn't the kind of money that you would ever miss and you realize that in the moment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31490928)

Banging her in the hypo doesn't mean you can't get laid later for whatever reason.

But to summarize, you're saying you don't pay to fuck her because you would want to plan out a hooker experience and really go all out, so fucking this chick is somehow not worthwhile? I just don't understand how you arrive at that position.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491206)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491286)

if you could make more than a certain amount of money per hour, it's much more efficient to pay for pussy than doing what you claim to be doing now, you realize this, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491364)

I understand you can have sex through normal means. So your principle here is that it's stupid to buy sex in that one aching, intense moment, because you could get free sex down the road. So it's not really about sex at all for you? Again, the hypo asserts that you want this girl really bad.

I think you can get a RSF quality girl at a reasonable price. I don't really know though. But a really high grade escort can't be much more than $1500 for a night. Can't imagine what you get beyond that pricing that's so much better absent great physical chemistry and weird sexual specializations. You could afford that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491305)

Who is an author that did affect you in a deep way?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491224)

What types of art, writing, music do you find meaningful and return to again and again?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491357)

Like, what happens if you have this great new chick that you want in the rotation. But you are already at max capacity for what you can realistically juggle and not piss them all off. Do you select a current harem member and 'break up' with her? Just start ignoring her? What is the procedure when you have to swap someone out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31490855)

And so every girl you fuck is auto-harmed? Like you always consider getting with them again, even if the sex was terrible or completely forgettable?

Is 20 just the number that your memory seems to hold, since it's essentially a conveyor belt situation? You've said before that some girls last a long time. What does it take for a girl to stay in the rotation that long. I have to imagine she's got to be pretty special since every time you fuck a repeater you're possibly giving up a chance to nail some strange.

What happens if you have a great harem girl but she wants more out of the relationship? Are your interactions with these women pretty much all sexual as time goes on or do you sometimes find yourself in a relationship that approximates normal dating?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491377)

But more so than money, I can't imagine the amount of personal time and the lifestyle opportunity costs of all this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491018)

well, he's clearly a man obsessed. there's no reason to believe that he cares about anything other than putting up these numbers. obv a youth of NOWAG here in the US did something to him. two huge factors for me are i) you can't underestimate how much of a leg up he has over the korean-korean version of him as a result of being from the US. for a prole korean 6, he's like, the equivalent of the unimpressive eurodudes that american chicks are 10x more likely to fuck than their american equivalents. also, i've met a couple of dudes are are sort of modified versions of him; prob fuck 1/3 as much but are also way way less obsessed. if it was their life, i could see them getting a new one every weekend, especially in a city of 10m people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491053)

I don't necessarily disagree with your other points. Still, to me, the single-minded focus and social tradeoffs are inscrutable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491067)

lol, is this JJC? lmao fucking AA cuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491236)

i'm not saying that with the avg chick being korean american would give him a leg up, but it would with some, and in a city of 10m if it hypothetically helped a lot with 10% but hurt a lot with the other 90% that would still work to his benefit in a situation where he's robo hitting on 1000 chicks a day and only needs a few to bite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491291)

it's the fact that he literally spends all of his free time pursuing ONS with random women that is the sad part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491229)

The idea that guys who get laid for free balk at paying for it is absurd. The fact that he outright denies it makes it more likely he's using pros and fabricating a large portions of his scores.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491080)

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/300099-churchill-madam-would-you-sleep-with-me-for-five-million

I realize it probably comes across that way. I just wanted to check his feelings on prostitution and willingness to address the idea under an ideal scenario. How many of us are do disciplined or principled that we would say no in that situation? I doubt I would.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491130)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491255)

Ever get a chick that was really gross and you regret right after sexing her?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491104)

attractive women?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491244)

i'd ask how you've been, but i already know the answer

balls deep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491705)

god forbid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3363668&forum_id=2#31491721)