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AOC claims term limit amendment was made to prevent FDR from re-election (link)
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Date: April 1st, 2019 9:05 AM Author: Chartreuse odious pistol https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6871781/Alexandria-Ocasio-Cortez-claims-Republicans-amended-Constitution-prevent-FDR-elected.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38023557) |
Date: April 1st, 2019 9:06 AM Author: Obsidian floppy generalized bond coldplay fan BROWN WOMAN ST00PID BEEP BOOP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38023561) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 9:07 AM Author: chocolate hairy legs factory reset button All things considered this wasn't THAT dumb a statement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38023562) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 9:10 AM Author: Chartreuse odious pistol Perhaps. Can we get some fact checks on this though? If trump said it it would be four Pinocchio’s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38023565) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:10 PM Author: Awkward point black woman FIVE PINOCCHIOS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024213) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 9:10 AM Author: Bearded excitant idiot hospital I believe it was BEFORE he died (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38023567) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 9:25 AM Author: chocolate hairy legs factory reset button Sure she goofed on that part, but the underlying motivation for the amendment was to prevent another president from being elected three times like had just happened with FDR. The fact that FDR himself was unaffected by it is sort of irrelevant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38023583) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 9:32 AM Author: violent aqua sanctuary windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38023591) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 9:43 AM Author: jet-lagged senate but who pushed it? republicans or was it bipartisan? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38023610) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 9:45 AM Author: Adventurous Candlestick Maker Corner who pushed to abolish slavery (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38023620) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 10:10 AM Author: jet-lagged senate southern poverty law center? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38023721) |
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Date: June 13th, 2019 8:26 AM Author: chestnut abode haunted graveyard the same folks who made steve guttenberg a star...
and btw the term amendment WAS created for FDR, to make sure that the proles could not get another FDR into office...the elites did not like what he did..
AOC was right.. |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 11:08 AM Author: Thirsty Cruel-hearted Temple Faggot Firefighter That wasn't her point at all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38023949) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 9:13 AM Author: Bistre costumed theatre becky I personally would love to see Donald Trump reelected for a fourth term (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38023569) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 9:42 AM Author: vibrant iridescent home liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38023607) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 10:23 AM Author: Bright Vivacious Kitchen Internal Respiration it's common knowledge that FDR's popularity freezing out Republicans prompted the push for a term limit amendment. kind of a surprising blunder by the republicans here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38023772) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 10:57 AM Author: Chartreuse odious pistol No one is disputing that lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38023913) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 10:35 AM Author: mustard federal indian lodge Of all her stupidity this is actually mostly right
i'm not sure what point she was trying to make though. The democratic party of 1945 was to the right of Trump on the issues she cares about. |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 10:39 AM Author: Bright Vivacious Kitchen Internal Respiration she's pointing out how Republicans are always changing the rules to rig the system in their favor. i agree its not really worth pointing out since that really the purpose of the republican party: rig the game in favor of wealthy elites and corporations at the expense of the working class...then blame the democrats. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38023845) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 10:51 AM Author: boyish slap-happy base That's rich coming from the party that wants to abolish the electoral college and pack the courts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38023884) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 11:29 AM Author: Bright Vivacious Kitchen Internal Respiration the electoral college is a shitty idea in the 21st century but it wont be abolished. court-packing will happen but only as a response to the Garland seat theft, so Republicans are to blame for that one too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024037) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 11:50 AM Author: soul-stirring dull field lmao Dems really have lost their minds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024111) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:03 PM Author: Big territorial school cafeteria telephone How was it theft? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024185) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:12 PM Author: Bright Vivacious Kitchen Internal Respiration there are plenty of lengthy threads discussing this. suffice to say that the republicans' power grab, while within the rules, was unprecedented. And so too will be the Dems' court-packing (both unprecedented and within the rules), except Dems will be merely restoring the status quo, rather than seeking to provide themselves an advantage they weren't entitled do, as the republicans did. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024220) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:15 PM Author: Big territorial school cafeteria telephone You don't know whether it was unprecedented because senators have not always stated their reasons for holding up or rejecting Art III nominations.
As for the status quo, that is preserved by filling Scalia's seat with another conservative. Dems foolishly underestimated republicans on this. They thought they would just roll over an accept a "moderate" appointment to the seat formerly occupied by the most beloved conservative Justice in living memory. More than anything they were just fucking stupid. |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:40 PM Author: soul-stirring dull field I could have sworn there was a court packing attempt sometime in the 20th century... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024391) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 2:50 PM Author: duck-like titillating toaster Love libs talking about "unprecedented" SCOTUS shit while ignoring the fact they started the entire politicization process with Bork (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38025227) |
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Date: June 13th, 2019 8:22 AM Author: talented tan bawdyhouse Yeah it wasn’t political at all to nominate the Saturday night massacre dude. That was totally in line with previous practice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38382558) |
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Date: October 6th, 2019 12:22 AM Author: White buck-toothed heaven Lol at thinking this is why they borked him (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38935905) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:10 PM Author: Rough-skinned sweet tailpipe shrine oh sorry i forgot that the rural/urban state divide magically stopped mattering in the 21st century because all who matter now are rootless cosmopolitans, grr that evil electoral college (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024212) |
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Date: June 13th, 2019 8:23 AM Author: talented tan bawdyhouse Tell us more about these urban states that we had in 1789. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38382564) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 11:07 AM Author: Smoky Mexican School imagine unironically thinking that the US republican party is the "party of wealthy elites" in 2019 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38023945) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 11:09 AM Author: Thirsty Cruel-hearted Temple Faggot Firefighter You would have to be incredibly stupid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38023952) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 11:29 AM Author: Bright Vivacious Kitchen Internal Respiration christ. it's insane how easily brainwashed you guys are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024043) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 11:51 AM Author: jet-lagged senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024116) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:02 PM Author: soul-stirring dull field The lack of self-awareness of this poast is staggering (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024175) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:11 PM Author: jet-lagged senate there is no doubt that trump and the modern GOP PLAY to the scotch-irish redneck base. but that has been the case since reagan. trump is an innovator but not a pioneer. but notice WHAT POLICIES ACTUALLY GET IMPLEMENTED. they are literally what GC demands. that, too, hasn't changed since reagan |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:39 PM Author: soul-stirring dull field Shitlibs complaining about brainwashing is peak irony (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024379) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:39 PM Author: jet-lagged senate no moreso than anybody still supporting trump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024385) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:41 PM Author: soul-stirring dull field Anyone is better than what the Dems are offering. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024397) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:44 PM Author: jet-lagged senate if you give a shit about monumental issues such as whether or not the 10 commandments gets to be displayed in a state capitol or whether trannies get medical benefits. oh and where the embassy in israel is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024422) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:47 PM Author: soul-stirring dull field I give no fucks about those.
But I do care about using the DOJ’s civil rights division to harass white communities, using the DoEdas a weapon on campus, using the HuD to forcibly “diversify” white communities, and using the military to spread shitliberalism around the globe. |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:50 PM Author: jet-lagged senate lol, so whites will just flee the suburbs & return to their rural roots where they belong on foreign intervention there is literally zero daylight between trump and any of the other 2016 candidates including hillary |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:53 PM Author: Swashbuckling Pink Institution Please stop with this shitty flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024456) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:54 PM Author: jet-lagged senate no, obeezy is tireless (i am obeezy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024460) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:59 PM Author: soul-stirring dull field Lol the 101st would still be in Syria if Her won (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024488) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 1:15 PM Author: Swashbuckling Pink Institution The guy’s schtick really sucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024572) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 1:20 PM Author: jet-lagged senate I said literally no daylight. Has trump pulled out of syria? Or just tweeted about it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024604) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 3:58 PM Author: soul-stirring dull field He didnt fucking send in Army Divisions like Her and the National Security establishment wanted (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38025711) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 4:25 PM Author: jet-lagged senate he'll make up for it by invading iran (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38025883) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 4:33 PM Author: soul-stirring dull field yfwgi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38025958) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 4:33 PM Author: jet-lagged senate bump in 6 mos (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38025963) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 4:54 PM Author: soul-stirring dull field Just made a note in my phone calendar with a link to this thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38026090) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 5:07 PM Author: jet-lagged senate good wk client will apprecaite (sp.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38026181) |
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Date: April 10th, 2019 8:09 AM Author: jet-lagged senate https://thehill.com/policy/international/437973-netanyahu-thanks-trump-for-naming-irans-revolutionary-guard-a-terrorist (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38066578) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 1:38 PM Author: jet-lagged senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38238590) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:37 PM Author: jet-lagged senate https://twitter.com/FiringLineShow/status/1128393270458048512 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38238943) |
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Date: May 24th, 2019 6:41 PM Author: jet-lagged senate http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4268578&mc=2&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38285161) |
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Date: June 13th, 2019 7:42 AM Author: jet-lagged senate http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4281955&mc=19&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38382462) |
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Date: June 13th, 2019 9:39 AM Author: jet-lagged senate http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4281982&mc=5&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38382748) |
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Date: September 20th, 2019 7:13 PM Author: jet-lagged senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38863850) |
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Date: September 20th, 2019 7:14 PM Author: jet-lagged senate http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4347709&mc=3&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38863853) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2020 2:31 PM Author: jet-lagged senate ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#39371970) |
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Date: September 26th, 2019 4:23 PM Author: soul-stirring dull field Deadline in a week. Where are we on this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38891010) |
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Date: September 26th, 2019 4:25 PM Author: jet-lagged senate http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38863853 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38891022) |
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Date: September 26th, 2019 4:26 PM Author: soul-stirring dull field We’ve had troops in Saudi since the end of the Gulf War (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38891029) |
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Date: October 5th, 2019 11:09 PM Author: Swashbuckling Pink Institution Where are we on the invasion my nig? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38935631) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 11:13 AM Author: mustard federal indian lodge "republican" and "democrat" of 1945 are unrelated to the parties who use those terms today. Trying to point to some systemic history of one party vs the other by tracing back themes to this era is ridiculous. Truman vs Dewey exemplifies how much things have changed.
the "system" of the 1940s was completely rigged beyond ways one can even understand today, and it was completely accepted as such. Trying to learn life lessons from FDR, Truman, Dewey era as "Republican bad, democrat good" is absurdity.
also, what is she arguing? That term limits are bad? |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 11:52 AM Author: Know-it-all Stirring Cruise Ship Gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024119) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 11:45 AM Author: judgmental dragon stead The people arguing she's right in substance are wrong as well.
The amendment wasn't retroactive: Truman. the POTUS at the time, would have been eligible to run as often as he wanted as per the text of the amendment.
Even if FDR *HAD* been in office when it was passed it wouldn't have done anything to prevent him from running again. |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 11:57 AM Author: Fantasy-prone Digit Ratio This is true but I’m just so weary of this constant “gotcha” fact checking bullshit on what was a completely ancillary point. The kind of person gloating over this would’ve done great on law review. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024148) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 11:59 AM Author: jet-lagged senate except it's indicative of how dumb she actually is. literally everyone knows that the amendment was passed after FDR went to shitty potus heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024158) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:07 PM Author: Big territorial school cafeteria telephone Trump and other republicans fumble their facts all the time and we let it slide because we know what they're really trying say. If you want to beat up on AOC you already have a wealth of material to work with. No need to stretch your credibility by getting MAF about this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024197) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:08 PM Author: soul-stirring dull field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024200) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:08 PM Author: jet-lagged senate she didn't "fumble". she betrayed a huge lacuna in her feeble mayan mind (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024205) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:12 PM Author: Big territorial school cafeteria telephone The article in the OP says the 22A was "most likely a rebuke" to FDR. It seems like that's the essence of her claim, not that it would affected FDR himself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024219) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:14 PM Author: jet-lagged senate you're not getting it. the argument she was trying to make is not the point. the point is her gross misstatement of basic american history in support of her shitty argument (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024228) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:18 PM Author: Big territorial school cafeteria telephone What do you think her argument was? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024256) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:21 PM Author: jet-lagged senate you're not getting it. the argument she was trying to make is not the point. the point is her gross misstatement of basic american history in support of whatever her shitty argument was (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024269) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:40 PM Author: judgmental dragon stead It's plain as day she had never even studied the history of the 22A in detail or even read the actual text. It's forcememed by SJWs as example of white supremacy or something, just like the "electoral college is racist" trope.
The anti-intellectualism taking over the left wing is dangerous, just as dangerous as it consuming the right. |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:42 PM Author: jet-lagged senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024408) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:43 PM Author: soul-stirring dull field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024410) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:37 PM Author: judgmental dragon stead It was not a "rebuke" to FDR. It was a bipartisan effort to prevent a single person from becoming effectively POTUS for life, in the vein of FDR. The idea that the problem was FDR himself and not the fact that a 150 year old precedent had been shitted on is stupid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38024367) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 12:52 PM Author: mustard federal indian lodge this is getting into semantics
but agree that the view that this was some "republican" scheme to undermine democracy was a stupid point. That was my point above, I don't understand what point she was making. |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 4:02 PM Author: bateful sinister volcanic crater keepsake machete It was a rebuke of FDR's decision to not honor the 2 term limit tradition as established by George Washington. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38025736) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 4:26 PM Author: jet-lagged senate i mean, the POINT of it wasn't to rebuke anything. it was to make sure it wouldn't happen again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38025890) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 4:43 PM Author: mustard federal indian lodge Correct, it was understood that it was ok during wartime and FDR was above reproach, but they didn't want to put the country at risk of having our own hitler. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38026016) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 4:10 PM Author: Charismatic church i didn't. only knew that it existed because of fdr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38025780) |
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Date: June 13th, 2019 8:24 AM Author: violent aqua sanctuary windowlicker But she is right in substance. The idea was to prevent a future FDR-type situation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38382566) |
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Date: June 13th, 2019 9:42 AM Author: judgmental dragon stead "The idea was to prevent a future FDR-type situation."
She said it was to prevent FDR himself from being re-elected, not to prevent someone *like* from being re-elected.
To use a contemporary analogy: this would be like, in 2024, Dems passing a bill requiring a POTUS candidate release his tax returns, and saying they did it to stop Trump from running for president. |
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Date: October 6th, 2019 12:25 AM Author: Bonkers indirect expression halford (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4233299&forum_id=2#38935921) |