Date: April 23rd, 2004 10:51 AM Author: Glittery up-to-no-good temple pisswyrm
is this the same euphronius or some parody poster? i always thought euphronius was a generally good, fun-loving guy. i didnt realize he was a dick like this.
Date: April 23rd, 2004 10:58 AM Author: Glittery up-to-no-good temple pisswyrm
usually not when the deceased died in combat. usually not when the deceased is universally regarded as selfless and heroic. you may find it fun to ridicule pat tillman because he was an nfl safety. ask yourself if you would start a thread joking about the death of any other regular american soldier like, for instance, keith maupin.
Date: April 23rd, 2004 10:53 AM Author: Violent office
Hmm. We don't really make fun of people dying. Shit jokes and racism jokes are a lot tamer than joking about a guy that was just killed fighting for us.
Date: April 23rd, 2004 11:43 AM Author: Stirring Resort Old Irish Cottage
I thought you were a conservative. You sound like some loon.
Not that I think the Koreans dying in a train was funny, but I think it's a bit more tragic for a guy like Tillman to die than someone who dies in a train accident in North Korea. He could have been a millionaire for playing a silly game and instead he gave his life for his country is some backward hellhole. The Korea thing is more like a natural disaster, still not funny though.
Date: April 23rd, 2004 11:47 AM Author: chocolate ceo famous landscape painting
Was it Kierkegaard or Dick Van Patten who said, "If you label me, you negate me?"
I am a conservative. But don't mistake me for a simple-minded flag waver.
Nothing is too taboo to joke about. Sure, some people may think it's not funny or in poor taste or inappropriate, but that's just because they're too close to, emotionally involved in, or softly thinking about the topic at hand.
But this idea that some things should never be joked about is just nonsensical.
Date: April 23rd, 2004 11:55 AM Author: Stirring Resort Old Irish Cottage
That's a silly line. Labels are very useful. Not that they're ever 100% accurate, but they get a big chunk of the picture in one or two words.
That's a broad statement about jokes. Do you have no sense of decency? Would you make a joke about how Tillman should have taken that contract at his funeral?
Anyway, at the very least, some things shouldn't be joked about at certain times and places. Like, you shouldn't spit on the dead, 5 minutes after you learn that they made the ultimate sacrifice for you.
And, if you're going to make an inappropriate joke, it sure as hell better be funny, which this wasn't, objectively.
Date: April 23rd, 2004 10:58 AM Author: lavender school cafeteria
umm, ok. care to explain why?
I didn't even know who this Tillman guy was. When I saw the title, I thought it was some type of Elvis Grbac parody. Anyway, just like this thread struck a nerve with you, the racism, sexism, scat jokes strike nerves with other people.
Date: April 23rd, 2004 11:20 AM Author: narrow-minded copper crotch voyeur
I think it was in incredibly bad taste for him to post it. However, since apparently he was intent on going through with the joke, and unlike Holocaust or dead baby jokes, it would only "work" if he posted it now.
Date: April 23rd, 2004 11:57 AM Author: Glittery up-to-no-good temple pisswyrm
the holocaust happened sixty years ago. tillman was reported dead five minutes before this thread was started.
the holocaust was an impersonal disaster which is spoken about in general terms. euphronius decided to start a thread that ridiculed a really amazing thing that pat tillman achieved (being an nfl safety).
Date: April 23rd, 2004 1:29 PM Author: Galvanic rambunctious immigrant digit ratio Subject: what forest?
"the holocaust was an impersonal disaster"
WTF are you talking about? The Holocaust was a very personal disaster for millions of people - the increase in scale does not make it less personal. Certainly distance from tragedy factors in - wounds heal - but it should be obvious that if one can joke about genocide one can joke about ANYTHING.
It's called comedy of the the absurd. Hi, I'm the humor of our generation. Have we met?
Date: April 23rd, 2004 3:34 PM Author: Big-titted tanning salon coldplay fan Subject: Comedy of the absurd
The beauty of sarcasm, comedy of the absurd, whatever we'd like to call it, is that it toes so delicately the line between "absurd" and horribly offensive and NEVER crosses it. We can try to put one in there for euphonius that his was simply an attempt at absurdity gone completely awry, but this "line" that we tiptoe on this board and, as of yet, rarely have ever crossed, is an exceedingly heavy one. That comment was no where near the funny side of that line due to a number of circumstances (the selflessness of Tillman's death, the timing, etc.- all already mentioned), and it is hard to tell, if ever, when, where or how a joke like this will ever be "funny"(read: absurd).
eu-fo is either remarkably stupid, remarkably unfunny or remarkably cruel for crossing that line, and those of you defending him just as confused.