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NYT: Oh I guess CHAZ was actually bad

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/07/us/defund-police-seattle-...
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Looks like Hispanics too.
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White hispanics. Not darker ones
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It's "Black, Indigenous, and People of Color," i.e...
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I always assumed it meant bisexual people of color
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"We need to sustainably divest from policing, and move ...
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Tom Seattle 59m ago Times Pick I live in Seattle and h...
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"It is worth noting that neither the Mayor of Seattle n...
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That's because it's patently untrue.
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it doesn't because the immediate next question is did the m...
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i posted a comment that notes the NYT fired its opinions edi...
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The thread title isn't fair. There are tons of reporters the...
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WTF isn't fair about it? How are we to judge the NYT except...
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Relevant, as always. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/op...
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I don't think that's a controversial statement on XO. But w...
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"The "NYT" has effectively done an about face...
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Link to other NYT articles pointing out how devastating CHAZ...
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I pitched a story about the looting in Manhattan/the Bronx w...
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so the thread title is fair then
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the writer is irrelevant. the nyt hasn't provided any critic...
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and you went along with it like a good cuck
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Antifa types are literally embedded in the DOI
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a Black Lives Matter community guard, in charge of several o...
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"The zone, originally covering six city blocks and a pa...
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Date: August 7th, 2020 1:39 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/07/us/defund-police-seattle-protests.html

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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:17 PM
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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:58 PM
Author: Diverse white depressive stead

Abolish the Police? Those Who Survived the Chaos in Seattle Aren’t So Sure

What is it like when a city abandons a neighborhood and the police vanish? Business owners describe a harrowing experience of calling for help and being left all alone.

Faizel Khan, who owns a coffee shop, is part of a lawsuit that says Seattle let occupying protesters damage property and stifle revenue in the Capitol Hill neighborhood.

Faizel Khan, who owns a coffee shop, is part of a lawsuit that says Seattle let occupying protesters damage property and stifle revenue in the Capitol Hill neighborhood.Credit...Grant Hindsley for The New York Times

By Nellie Bowles

Aug. 7, 2020, 5:00 a.m. ET

SEATTLE — Faizel Khan was being told by the news media and his own mayor that the protests in his hometown were peaceful, with “a block party atmosphere.”

But that was not what he saw through the windows of his Seattle coffee shop. He saw encampments overtaking the sidewalks. He saw roving bands of masked protesters smashing windows and looting.

Young white men wielding guns would harangue customers as well as Mr. Khan, a gay man of Middle Eastern descent who moved here from Texas so he could more comfortably be out. To get into his coffee shop, he sometimes had to seek the permission of self-appointed armed guards to cross a border they had erected.

“They barricaded us all in here,” Mr. Khan said. “And they were sitting in lawn chairs with guns.”

For 23 days in June, about six blocks in the city’s Capitol Hill neighborhood were claimed by left-wing demonstrators and declared police-free. Protesters hailed it as liberation — from police oppression, from white supremacy — and a catalyst for a national movement.

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In the wake of the killing of George Floyd by the Minneapolis police, the Black Lives Matter movement is calling to defund the police, arguing that the criminal justice system is inherently racist.

Leaders in many progressive cities are listening. In New York City, Mayor Bill de Blasio has announced a plan to shift $1 billion out of the police budget. The Minneapolis City Council is pitching a major reduction, and the Seattle City Council is pushing for a 50 percent cut to Police Department funding. (The mayor said that plan goes too far.)

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Some even call for “abolishing the police” altogether and closing down precincts, which is what happened in Seattle.

That has left small-business owners as lonely voices in progressive areas, arguing that police officers are necessary and that cities cannot function without a robust public safety presence. In Minneapolis, Seattle and Portland, Ore., many of those business owners consider themselves progressive, and in interviews they express support for the Black Lives Matter movement. But they also worry that their businesses, already debilitated by the coronavirus pandemic, will struggle to survive if police departments and city governments cannot protect them.

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On Capitol Hill, business crashed as the Seattle police refused to respond to calls to the area. Officers did not retake the region until July 1, after four shootings, including two fatal ones.

Now a group of local businesses owners — including a locksmith, the owner of a tattoo parlor, a mechanic, the owners of a Mexican restaurant and Mr. Khan — is suing the city. The lawsuit claims that “Seattle’s unprecedented decision to abandon and close off an entire city neighborhood, leaving it unchecked by the police, unserved by fire and emergency health services, and inaccessible to the public” resulted in enormous property damage and lost revenue.

ImageRancho Bravo, a popular late-night Mexican restaurant on Capitol Hill, is one of the businesses in the lawsuit, which says Seattle provided material support for the occupation.

Rancho Bravo, a popular late-night Mexican restaurant on Capitol Hill, is one of the businesses in the lawsuit, which says Seattle provided material support for the occupation.Credit...Grant Hindsley for The New York Times

The Seattle lawsuit — and interviews with shop owners in cities like Portland and Minneapolis — underscores a key question: Can businesses still rely on local governments, which are now rethinking the role of the police, to keep them safe? The issue is especially tense in Seattle, where the city government not only permitted the establishment of a police-free zone, but provided infrastructure like concrete barriers and portable toilets to sustain it.

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The economic losses that businesses suffered during the recent tumult are significant: One community relief fund in Minneapolis, where early protests included vandalism and arson, has raised $9 million for businesses along the Lake Street corridor, a largely Latino and East African business district. “We asked the small businesses what they needed to cover the damage that insurance wasn’t paying, and the gap was around $200 million,” said Allison Sharkey, the executive director of the Lake Street Council, which is organizing the fund. Her own office, between a crafts market and a Native American support center, was burned down in the protests.

Some small businesses have resorted to posting GoFundMe pleas for donations online.

Many are nervous about speaking out lest they lend ammunition to a conservative critique of the Black Lives Matter movement. In Portland, Elizabeth Snow McDougall, the owner of Stevens-Ness legal printers, emphasized her support for the cause before describing the damage done to her business.

“One window broken, then another, then another, then another. Garbage to clean off the sidewalk in front of the store every morning. Urine to wash out of our doorway alcove. Graffiti to remove,” Ms. McDougall wrote in an email. “Costs to board up and later we’ll have costs to repair.”

The impact of the occupation on Cafe Argento, Mr. Khan’s coffee shop on Capitol Hill, has been devastating. Very few people braved the barricades set up by the armed occupiers to come in for his coffee and breakfast sandwiches. Cars coming to pick up food orders would turn around. At two points, he and his workers felt scared and called 911. “They said they would not come into CHOP,” said Mr. Khan, referring to one of the names that protesters gave to the occupied Capitol Hill area. “It was lawless.”

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He had to start chipping in for private security, a hard thing to do when his business had already been hurt by the coronavirus.

But he considers himself lucky — and he was. Even weeks after the protests, blocks of his previously bustling neighborhood remained boarded up and covered in shattered glass. Many business owners are scared to speak out, Mr. Khan said, because of worries that they would be targeted further.

One mid-July morning in the neighborhood, workers in orange vests were mopping off the sidewalks and power-spraying graffiti off the sides of buildings. Two window repair guys said they had their hands full for weeks. Shattered street lamps were being unscrewed and replaced.

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A confusing array of security teams wandered around, armed with handguns and rifles. Some wore official-looking private security uniforms. Others wore casual clothes and lanyards identifying their affiliation with Black Lives Matter. A third group wore all black with no identifying labels and declined to name their group affiliation.

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Rick Hearns displays two handguns while patrolling Capitol Hill as a private security guard. His badge reads “Black Lives Matter Community Patrol.”Credit...Grant Hindsley for The New York Times

When a tall man in a trench coat and hiking boots walked over to question Mr. Khan, the man spread his coat open, revealing several pistols on harnesses around his chest and waist. He presented a badge on a lanyard that read “Black Lives Matter Community Patrol.”

His name is Rick Hearns and he identified himself as a longtime security guard and mover who is now a Black Lives Matter community guard, in charge of several others. Local merchants pay for his protection, he said as he handed out his business card. (Mr. Khan said he and his neighbors are now paying thousands of dollars a month for protection from Iconic Global, a Washington State-based private security contractor.)

Mr. Hearns has had bad experiences with the police in his own life. He says he wants police reform, but he was appalled by the violent tactics and rhetoric he witnessed during the occupation.

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He blamed the destruction and looting on “opportunists,” but also said that much of the damage on Capitol Hill came from a distinct contingent of violent, armed white activists. “It’s antifa,” he said. “They don’t want to see the progress we’ve made. They want chaos.”

Many of the business owners on Capitol Hill agreed: Much of the violence they saw and the intimidation of their patrons came from a group these business owners identified as antifa, which they distinguished from the Black Lives Matter movement. “The idea of taking up the Black movement and turning it into a white occupation, it’s white privilege in its finest definition,” Mr. Khan said. “And that’s what they did.”

Antifa, which stands for anti-fascist, is a radical, leaderless leftist political movement that uses armed, violent protest as a method to create what supporters say is a more just and equitable country. They have a strong presence in the Pacific Northwest, including the current protests in Portland.

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Police officers did not retake the Capitol Hill Occupied Protest zone, where demonstrators graffitied walls and broke windows, until after four shootings had occurred there. Credit...Grant Hindsley for The New York Times

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When the occupation in Seattle started in early June, Mayor Jenny Durkan seemed almost amused. “We could have the Summer of Love,” she said.

After President Trump took aim at the governor of Washington State and Seattle’s mayor on June 11, Ms. Durkan defended the occupation on Twitter as “a peaceful expression of our community’s collective grief and their desire to build a better world,” she wrote, pointing to the “food trucks, spaghetti potlucks, teach-ins, and movies.”

The lawsuit by the small-business owners, filed by the firm Calfo Eakes on June 24, seizes on such language, pointing out that the city knew what was happening and provided material support for the occupation.

Matthew Ploszaj, a Capitol Hill resident, is one of the complainants. He said his apartment building, blocks from Mr. Khan’s shop, was broken into four times during the occupation. The Seattle Police were called each time and never came to his apartment, according to Mr. Ploszaj. When he and another resident called the police after one burglary, they told him to meet them outside the occupation zone, about eight blocks away. He and other residents spent nights at a friend’s house outside the area during the height of the protests.

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The employees of Bergman’s Lock and Key say they were followed by demonstrators with baseball bats. Cure Cocktail, a local bar and charcuterie, said its workers were asked by protesters to pledge loyalty to the movement: “Are you for the CHOP or are you for the police?” they were asked, according to the lawsuit.

The business owners also found that trying to get help from the Seattle Police, who declined to comment for this article, made them targets of activists.

Across from Cafe Argento is a funky old auto repair shop called Car Tender run by John McDermott, a big soft-spoken man. On June 14, Mr. McDermott was driving his wife home from their anniversary dinner when he received a call from a neighbor who saw someone trying to break into his shop.

Mr. McDermott and his 27-year-old son, Mason, raced over. A man who was inside the shop, Mr. McDermott said, had emptied the cash drawer and was in the midst of setting the building on fire. Mr. McDermott said he and his son wrestled the man down and planned to hold him until the police arrived. But officers never showed up. A group of several hundred protesters did, according to Mr. McDermott, breaking down the chain-link fence around his shop and claiming that Mr. McDermott had kidnapped the man.

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“They started coming across the fence — you see all these beautiful kids, a mob but kids — and they have guns and are pointing them at you and telling you they’re going to kill you,” Mr. McDermott said. “Telling me I’m the K.K.K. I’m not the K.K.K.”

The demonstrators were livestreaming the confrontation. Mr. McDermott’s wife watched, frantically calling anyone she could think of to go help him.

Later, Mr. McDermott’s photo and shop address appeared on a website called Cop Blaster, whose stated aim is to track police brutality but also has galleries of what it calls “Snitches” and “Cop Callers.” The McDermotts were categorized as both of those things on the website, which warned they should “keep their mouths shut.”

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John McDermott said the police did not respond when his auto repair shop on Capitol Hill was being robbed by someone trying to set the building on fire.Credit...Grant Hindsley for The New York Times

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Many of the listings include names and addresses of people who are said to have called the police. Since the Cop Blaster post went up, Mr. McDermott’s shop has received so many harassing phone calls and messages that some employees have had to take time off.

A block away is Bill Donner, the owner of Richmark Label, who let police officers use the roof of his factory to monitor the demonstration. Inside, his company had spent 50 years making labels for products like whiskey, soaps and natural beef jerky. Many days during the occupation, Mr. Donner, who said he was in favor of police reform, had to negotiate with the occupiers of the zone for access to his factory.

Twice, he called 911 and was told that the police would not be coming into the area.

The experience of the small-business owners seems a universe away from the rhetoric of Seattle’s politicians. As the violence turned deadly, Councilwoman Kshama Sawant, who represents Capitol Hill, defended the protesters’ use of their own armed guards instead of the police.

“Elected committees of self defense have historically played vital roles during general strikes, occupations and in mass movements, in order for the working class and marginalized people to defend themselves and carry out necessary functions in place of the forces of the state,” she wrote. She has called for the local police precinct to be permanently placed under “community control.”

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When the mayor did send in police officers to end the occupation after the shootings, Ms. Sawant wrote on Twitter, “Shame on Mayor Jenny Durkan for deploying Seattle police yesterday in a brutal attack against peaceful Black Lives Matter protesters & homeless neighbors at the Capitol Hill Organized Protest.”

Many protesters who remained in early July were milling around a small tent encampment on a lawn at Seattle Central College, some with rifles slung over their shoulders. The smell of weed drifted through. The streets were full of moving trucks.

The crowds were gone, but every now and then, the demonstrators gave speeches about the importance of disbanding the police. Sometimes the activists spoke about what went wrong with the occupation. One young woman on a bullhorn argued to passers-by that the police left too quickly and that a sustainable police-free region would have to be built more slowly.

These days, storefronts in the neighborhood remain boarded up, covered in Black Lives Matter signs and graffiti. Demonstrators still hold evening protests, albeit smaller and quieter than before. But the businesses remain on edge.

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“This is an ongoing crisis,” Mr. Donner said on Tuesday. “Protesters are apparently staying until they get some of what they want. No one knows what level of city cooperation will be enough for them.”

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Date: August 8th, 2020 4:40 PM
Author: elite psychic stage

delete your cookies moron

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40724929)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 1:41 PM
Author: buff self-absorbed toaster

T

Tatjana

Florida

25m ago

Times Pick

CHOP doesn't disprove the need to defund the police. What happened there was chaos, and ended up being violent and tragic; however, the police inflict that same violence and chaos on BIPOC and low income communities regularly. We need to sustainably divest from policing, and move that money into services needed by our communities, especially the communities which have historically been neglected by our racist government. We spend an astonishing amount on policing, and all it does is create trauma for BIPOC.

Reply7 Reco

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720383)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 1:41 PM
Author: Passionate harsh theater stage

the disparity in message between the 'nyt pick' and 'readers pick' comments is startling

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720387)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 1:58 PM
Author: Stirring Slippery Rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720448)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 1:58 PM
Author: ruddy place of business fanboi



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Date: August 8th, 2020 6:10 PM
Author: ultramarine sickened private investor location



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Date: August 9th, 2020 12:26 PM
Author: Bisexual hateful sanctuary electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40727932)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 1:42 PM
Author: glassy violent theater

silence all twitter accounts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720388)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 1:54 PM
Author: Blue Frum Puppy Box Office

wtf is BIPOC, these freaks love their acronyms

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720435)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 1:58 PM
Author: Out-of-control copper mood resort

as far as i can tell, it was recently invented overnight as a way to exclude asians and whites

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720450)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:07 PM
Author: vibrant brunch coffee pot

just asians. lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720493)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 12:24 PM
Author: Bearded Sneaky Criminal Main People

Looks like Hispanics too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40723974)



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Date: August 9th, 2020 2:33 AM
Author: mustard glittery friendly grandma

White hispanics. Not darker ones

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40727017)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 1:59 PM
Author: primrose stimulating hissy fit stag film

The "Second Chair" for racial grievances rotates about once a decade. In the 90s it was Blacks and Hispanics. In the aughts it was Blacks and Muslims. Apparently this decade the Native Indians get a turn. Hence, BIPOC, or "Black and Indian Persons of Color."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720454)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:00 PM
Author: ruddy place of business fanboi

WHOAH WHOAH WHOAH! "Indian" is not the preferred nomenclature(even if that's how most Indians refer to themselves). The preferred term is "indigenous" bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720462)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:50 PM
Author: primrose stimulating hissy fit stag film

Oh fuck my bad. I will self report to re-education camp at once.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720753)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 12:55 PM
Author: concupiscible center



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Date: August 8th, 2020 4:12 PM
Author: Plum effete parlor

*White van pulls up in front of your home*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40724827)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:14 PM
Author: supple startled range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720538)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 7:38 PM
Author: Medicated water buffalo

It's "Black, Indigenous, and People of Color," i.e. blacks and natives are the "most oppressed" groups, with Latinos, Asians, Indians, and Middle Easterns being lumped together as the remaining "POC," who are explicitly "last" in the racial victim hierarchy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40721796)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 11:47 PM
Author: Brass Yapping Partner



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Date: August 8th, 2020 11:45 AM
Author: Chestnut vigorous roast beef selfie

I always assumed it meant bisexual people of color

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40723810)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 12:55 PM
Author: concupiscible center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40724092)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 4:11 PM
Author: Plum effete parlor

"We need to sustainably divest from policing, and move that money into services needed by our communities, especially the communities which have historically been neglected by our racist government"

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40724825)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 1:41 PM
Author: buff self-absorbed toaster

Tom

Seattle

59m ago

Times Pick

I live in Seattle and have been to the CHOP on multiple occasions. I have also first hand witnessed the indiscriminate brutality of the Seattle Police Department. The notion that they are “peace officers” is widely misconstrued.

It is worth noting that neither the Mayor of Seattle nor the Chief of Police ordered officers to abandon the East Precinct. Officers abandoned the precinct on their own, violating the city charter and compromising the safety of the community. Individual officers staged a coup, whether the mayor or the chief was complicit in that action is under investigation by the office of police accountability. Thus, the origin of this disaster starts squarely with the incompetence, and pettiness of rank and file SPOG members who literally chose to walk away from their sworn duty.

This component of the story is not covered within your narrative.

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Date: August 7th, 2020 1:42 PM
Author: glassy violent theater

sorry your twitter account has been revoked.

reason: retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720390)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 1:47 PM
Author: ruddy place of business fanboi

"It is worth noting that neither the Mayor of Seattle nor the Chief of Police ordered officers to abandon the East Precinct."

That's the first time I've heard that claim.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720414)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 1:53 PM
Author: primrose stimulating hissy fit stag film

That's because it's patently untrue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720432)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 1:48 PM
Author: lake dysfunction

this guy should be killed and probably all of his offspring too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720418)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 1:55 PM
Author: insecure drunken cumskin business firm

lol @ offspring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720436)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 6:20 PM
Author: Mind-boggling internet-worthy windowlicker base



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Date: August 7th, 2020 1:50 PM
Author: Blathering curious international law enforcement agency

even assuming this is true (i certainly don't remember it being reported that way at the time), i don't see how this helps their case?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720424)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 6:05 PM
Author: Aromatic scarlet crackhouse

it doesn't because the immediate next question is

did the mayor immediately order the police to retake the precinct? no. why not? what steps were taken to reestablish order in chaz? what steps were taken to at least get the precinct back under control of the government?

it's a red herring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40721508)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:07 PM
Author: Big jap

"the police are evil if they do their job and also if they don't"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720492)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:17 PM
Author: very tactful spruce really tough guy



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Date: August 7th, 2020 6:50 PM
Author: odious jet-lagged wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40721665)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 1:46 PM
Author: ruddy place of business fanboi

"“It’s antifa,” he said. “They don’t want to see the progress we’ve made. They want chaos.”

Many of the business owners on Capitol Hill agreed: Much of the violence they saw and the intimidation of their patrons came from a group these business owners identified as antifa, which they distinguished from the Black Lives Matter movement. “The idea of taking up the Black movement and turning it into a white occupation, it’s white privilege in its finest definition,” Mr. Khan said. “And that’s what they did.”"

Oh sure. Next you'll claim Santa Claus broke your windows. Everyone knows Antifa is myth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720409)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:05 PM
Author: buff self-absorbed toaster

Sup Jerry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720485)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 1:51 PM
Author: Charismatic Purple Casino Double Fault

i posted a comment that notes the NYT fired its opinions editor for allowing an op-ed to falsely claim antifa had infiltrated the protestors..a claim that this article repeats.

the comment was not approved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720429)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:35 PM
Author: very tactful spruce really tough guy



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:57 PM
Author: Stirring Slippery Rigpig



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:01 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Cyan Boltzmann

The thread title isn't fair. There are tons of reporters there who know the company line on the protests is bullshit.

This reporter is among the most respected in the newsroom. She's probably the only one who a: got permission to write this and b: is secure enough in her job to be willing to write it.But there's plenty there who silently agree with her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720470)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:02 PM
Author: ruddy place of business fanboi

WTF isn't fair about it? How are we to judge the NYT except by what's printed in the NYT?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720476)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:09 PM
Author: Passionate harsh theater stage



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:14 PM
Author: Stirring Slippery Rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720537)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:51 PM
Author: Lavender Apoplectic Jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720761)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 6:39 PM
Author: odious jet-lagged wagecucks



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Date: August 7th, 2020 6:45 PM
Author: insecure drunken cumskin business firm



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Date: August 8th, 2020 12:21 AM
Author: obsidian racy cuckoldry



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Date: August 8th, 2020 2:40 PM
Author: razzmatazz deranged old irish cottage deer antler



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:05 PM
Author: Rambunctious exciting cruise ship sound barrier

they knew it was bullshit but kept quiet? thats even worse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720486)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:05 PM
Author: Stirring Slippery Rigpig

Lmaoooo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720488)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:09 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Cyan Boltzmann

I know you're gonna think it's bullshit, but there's a real fear you can be fired from these places if you dissent from the accepted truth. Are *you* willing to risk your job to speak out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720511)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:11 PM
Author: Stirring Slippery Rigpig

If my employer was legitimately evil and hellbent on fomenting race wars, death, and the destruction of this nation, yes I think I'd speak up and get a job elsewhere

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720518)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:13 PM
Author: Rambunctious exciting cruise ship sound barrier

bro you cant expect journalists tell the truth. thats not their job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720531)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:14 PM
Author: Stirring Slippery Rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720533)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:17 PM
Author: very tactful spruce really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720562)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:30 PM
Author: Excitant disturbing organic girlfriend

Relevant, as always.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/opinion/objectivity-black-journalists-coronavirus.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720653)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:34 PM
Author: lake dysfunction



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:32 PM
Author: dun marvelous hell hunting ground



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:52 PM
Author: Lavender Apoplectic Jew



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Date: August 7th, 2020 6:39 PM
Author: odious jet-lagged wagecucks



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Date: August 8th, 2020 12:10 AM
Author: idiotic self-centered marketing idea



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Date: August 9th, 2020 2:34 AM
Author: mustard glittery friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40727018)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:12 PM
Author: Rambunctious exciting cruise ship sound barrier

what is the point of journalists if they won't speak truth to power? theyre just puppets of the oligarchs then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720526)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:12 PM
Author: ruddy place of business fanboi

I don't think that's a controversial statement on XO. But why does that make the thread title unfair? The "NYT" has effectively done an about face on this issue, even if there were individuals within the NYT who knew it was bullshit all along.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720527)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:14 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Cyan Boltzmann

"The "NYT" has effectively done an about face on this issue"

No they haven't. It's best to think of what's going on as a civil war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720536)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 3:02 PM
Author: ruddy place of business fanboi

Look, I don't regularly read the NYT, so if they weren't previously publishing fawning coverage of CHAZ/CHOP then my bad (although that's what their readers seem to say about their prior coverage).

But if you're argument is that some NYT employees would have published more critical coverage, how does that matter if it wasn't actually published in the NYT? It's like saying the U.S. didn't do a reversal on segregation just because some people always thought "separate but equal" was bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720793)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 11:48 PM
Author: Brass Yapping Partner

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40722698)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:14 PM
Author: lake dysfunction

holy shit dude how are you a real person lol

the whole concept behind the profession of "journalist" is someone who professionally speaks truth to power to inform the general public for the greater good of society. risking potential backlash for this is inherently part of their profession

this is like saying that saving someone from a burning building is too dangerous, and so it doesn't make sense for a firefighter to risk his life doing it, or that it doesn't make sense for a soldier to risk his life in combat. that's the whole point of their fucking jobs

my god you "journalists" literally live in a completely alternate clown reality where up is down and left is right and 2+2=5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720534)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:14 PM
Author: Stirring Slippery Rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720541)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 5:51 PM
Author: thirsty menage

Speaking of 2+2=5... this shit has been all over Twitter for a week:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thepostmillennial.com/two-plus-two-does-not-equal-five-no-matter-what-twitter-says

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40721469)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 5:53 PM
Author: thirsty menage

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/i2tfsu/whats_up_with_people_debating_22_5_on_twitter/

https://twitter.com/kareem_carr/status/1289724475609501697?s=19

Basically, if 2+2 = 4, you’re transphobic, no matter how many thousands of dollars you’ve spent on tranny porn and trap hookers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40721476)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 7:43 PM
Author: Medicated water buffalo

War Machine done here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40721808)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 12:57 PM
Author: concupiscible center



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Date: August 7th, 2020 6:11 PM
Author: boyish pink corner azn

Yes. Its called integrity. I've been fired (and have fired) many clients who won't or can't face truth. I expect JOURNALISTS have some.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40721529)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 2:41 PM
Author: razzmatazz deranged old irish cottage deer antler

Wtf, how is this real.

If you're not willing to dissent from the accepted truth, you are not a reporter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40724520)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:25 PM
Author: Grizzly wonderful reading party



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:08 PM
Author: buff self-absorbed toaster

Lmao at your profession

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720504)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:09 PM
Author: lake dysfunction

incredible poast lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720506)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:09 PM
Author: Passionate harsh theater stage

Link to other NYT articles pointing out how devastating CHAZ was to the community?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720509)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:10 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Cyan Boltzmann

I pitched a story about the looting in Manhattan/the Bronx while it was happening because I personally knew people who were having their businesses pilfered. I was rejected. Flat out. I wasn't even allowed to mention looting in my stories.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720517)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:12 PM
Author: Passionate harsh theater stage

so the thread title is fair then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720522)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:12 PM
Author: Stirring Slippery Rigpig



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:15 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Cyan Boltzmann

You're ascribing the intent of the paper as a whole to the writer who wrote this story. That's what I was disagreeing with more than anything.

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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:17 PM
Author: Stirring Slippery Rigpig

The OP did no such thing

Nobody here except you even knows or cares who the writer is.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720560)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:17 PM
Author: Passionate harsh theater stage



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:18 PM
Author: Passionate harsh theater stage

the writer is irrelevant. the nyt hasn't provided any critical coverage of CHAZ or CHAZ-like developments nationwide, even when it was obvious how destructive they were. that's the point of the thread.

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Date: August 7th, 2020 6:46 PM
Author: insecure drunken cumskin business firm

I have no idea why WM thinks his anecdote makes the times look *better*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40721646)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 12:58 PM
Author: concupiscible center



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Date: August 8th, 2020 1:01 PM
Author: ruddy place of business fanboi

I do t think he does. He is focusing on and defending certain individual NYT employees, but that's irrelevant to the thread title

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Date: August 8th, 2020 2:42 PM
Author: razzmatazz deranged old irish cottage deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40724527)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:18 PM
Author: sepia offensive stain therapy

and you went along with it like a good cuck

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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:19 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Cyan Boltzmann

Everyone on this forum is a "cuck" by this metric.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720574)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:45 PM
Author: Comical Haunted Graveyard

I have some vague sense, based on this and some other recent articles/twitter-shit, that the tide is maybe turning at least a little bit? Are the forces of sanity regaining at least a little ground in the newsroom or are the radicals still totally on the march w/ little resistance?

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Date: August 7th, 2020 5:53 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Cyan Boltzmann

The Bari Weiss thing and the harper's letter was a breaking point for a lot of people. Before there was a vague sense that this was part of some good cause, but now more and more it's being exposed as an excuse to be dicks to people you don't like.

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Date: August 7th, 2020 6:08 PM
Author: Cracking party of the first part

So? Your side is still (understandably) too scared to say or do anything about it

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Date: August 7th, 2020 3:07 PM
Author: ruddy place of business fanboi

nah bro. #sololife

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Date: August 7th, 2020 6:47 PM
Author: insecure drunken cumskin business firm

this is probably the best part of going solo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40721648)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:39 PM
Author: Comical Haunted Graveyard

you need to collect incidents like this and then, at an opportune time, drop some big piece about it in another outlet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720703)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:42 PM
Author: Stirring Slippery Rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720715)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 3:09 PM
Author: cerise dashing property goal in life

LMAO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720815)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:11 PM
Author: Angry prole

He blamed the destruction and looting on “opportunists,” but also said that much of the damage on Capitol Hill came from a distinct contingent of violent, armed white activists. “It’s antifa,” he said. “They don’t want to see the progress we’ve made. They want chaos.”

Many of the business owners on Capitol Hill agreed: Much of the violence they saw and the intimidation of their patrons came from a group these business owners identified as antifa, which they distinguished from the Black Lives Matter movement. “The idea of taking up the Black movement and turning it into a white occupation, it’s white privilege in its finest definition,” Mr. Khan said. “And that’s what they did.”

https://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2020/08/06/police-seek-man-charged-in-fatal-june-20th-shooting-near-chop/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720519)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:43 PM
Author: vermilion bonkers idea he suggested hospital

the top reader comment:

"worldaccord

oxford

7h ago

This is pretty amazing because I certainly don't recall the NYT reporting on the chaos while it was occurring. The NYT reports made it sound like Seattle was having a block party when in fact the opposite was true. I saw some reports of the chaos on Facebook, but figured it was just right wing propaganda. I guess I'll have to get serious about getting the truth from many news sources going forward. It's naive to think that news reporting is not influenced by political agendas of those reporting it. I'm liberal, but I still like to know the truth even if it flies in the face of my beliefs and forces me to rethink them rationally."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720716)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:45 PM
Author: Stirring Slippery Rigpig

Did the NYT editor take today off or something? First allowing this story then allowing comments

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720725)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:48 PM
Author: vermilion bonkers idea he suggested hospital

If you can believe it, here is the No. 1 NYT pick:

anonymouse

seattle

52m ago

Times Pick

I live in Seattle. This is a story that needs to be told. Small business is the lifeblood of any community. Put in a restaurant, and culture follows. Here in Seattle, the voice of small business has been drowned out by the socialists on the city council who want to defund the police and do things like escort protestors to the mayor's home to protest there. The mayor is competent, but has a difficult job working with her incompetent city council. And who's to blame? The nice liberal largely white voters who love the idea of socialism because it's well, politically correct in Seattle. They vote in council members who don't represent many of us, including the business community -- large and small -- who have been largely responsible for our economic and cultural growth. WE, the voters, are responsible for this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720745)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:49 PM
Author: Blathering curious international law enforcement agency

take out "seattle" and this comment is relevant to probably 100 medium to large cities in this country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40720752)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 5:05 PM
Author: Fragrant citrine church



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Date: August 7th, 2020 2:55 PM
Author: Diverse white depressive stead

Abolish the Police? Those Who Survived the Chaos in Seattle Aren’t So Sure

What is it like when a city abandons a neighborhood and the police vanish? Business owners describe a harrowing experience of calling for help and being left all alone.

Faizel Khan, who owns a coffee shop, is part of a lawsuit that says Seattle let occupying protesters damage property and stifle revenue in the Capitol Hill neighborhood.

Faizel Khan, who owns a coffee shop, is part of a lawsuit that says Seattle let occupying protesters damage property and stifle revenue in the Capitol Hill neighborhood.Credit...Grant Hindsley for The New York Times

By Nellie Bowles

Aug. 7, 2020, 5:00 a.m. ET

SEATTLE — Faizel Khan was being told by the news media and his own mayor that the protests in his hometown were peaceful, with “a block party atmosphere.”

But that was not what he saw through the windows of his Seattle coffee shop. He saw encampments overtaking the sidewalks. He saw roving bands of masked protesters smashing windows and looting.

Young white men wielding guns would harangue customers as well as Mr. Khan, a gay man of Middle Eastern descent who moved here from Texas so he could more comfortably be out. To get into his coffee shop, he sometimes had to seek the permission of self-appointed armed guards to cross a border they had erected.

“They barricaded us all in here,” Mr. Khan said. “And they were sitting in lawn chairs with guns.”

For 23 days in June, about six blocks in the city’s Capitol Hill neighborhood were claimed by left-wing demonstrators and declared police-free. Protesters hailed it as liberation — from police oppression, from white supremacy — and a catalyst for a national movement.

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In the wake of the killing of George Floyd by the Minneapolis police, the Black Lives Matter movement is calling to defund the police, arguing that the criminal justice system is inherently racist.

Leaders in many progressive cities are listening. In New York City, Mayor Bill de Blasio has announced a plan to shift $1 billion out of the police budget. The Minneapolis City Council is pitching a major reduction, and the Seattle City Council is pushing for a 50 percent cut to Police Department funding. (The mayor said that plan goes too far.)

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Some even call for “abolishing the police” altogether and closing down precincts, which is what happened in Seattle.

That has left small-business owners as lonely voices in progressive areas, arguing that police officers are necessary and that cities cannot function without a robust public safety presence. In Minneapolis, Seattle and Portland, Ore., many of those business owners consider themselves progressive, and in interviews they express support for the Black Lives Matter movement. But they also worry that their businesses, already debilitated by the coronavirus pandemic, will struggle to survive if police departments and city governments cannot protect them.

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On Capitol Hill, business crashed as the Seattle police refused to respond to calls to the area. Officers did not retake the region until July 1, after four shootings, including two fatal ones.

Now a group of local businesses owners — including a locksmith, the owner of a tattoo parlor, a mechanic, the owners of a Mexican restaurant and Mr. Khan — is suing the city. The lawsuit claims that “Seattle’s unprecedented decision to abandon and close off an entire city neighborhood, leaving it unchecked by the police, unserved by fire and emergency health services, and inaccessible to the public” resulted in enormous property damage and lost revenue.

ImageRancho Bravo, a popular late-night Mexican restaurant on Capitol Hill, is one of the businesses in the lawsuit, which says Seattle provided material support for the occupation.

Rancho Bravo, a popular late-night Mexican restaurant on Capitol Hill, is one of the businesses in the lawsuit, which says Seattle provided material support for the occupation.Credit...Grant Hindsley for The New York Times

The Seattle lawsuit — and interviews with shop owners in cities like Portland and Minneapolis — underscores a key question: Can businesses still rely on local governments, which are now rethinking the role of the police, to keep them safe? The issue is especially tense in Seattle, where the city government not only permitted the establishment of a police-free zone, but provided infrastructure like concrete barriers and portable toilets to sustain it.

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The economic losses that businesses suffered during the recent tumult are significant: One community relief fund in Minneapolis, where early protests included vandalism and arson, has raised $9 million for businesses along the Lake Street corridor, a largely Latino and East African business district. “We asked the small businesses what they needed to cover the damage that insurance wasn’t paying, and the gap was around $200 million,” said Allison Sharkey, the executive director of the Lake Street Council, which is organizing the fund. Her own office, between a crafts market and a Native American support center, was burned down in the protests.

Some small businesses have resorted to posting GoFundMe pleas for donations online.

Many are nervous about speaking out lest they lend ammunition to a conservative critique of the Black Lives Matter movement. In Portland, Elizabeth Snow McDougall, the owner of Stevens-Ness legal printers, emphasized her support for the cause before describing the damage done to her business.

“One window broken, then another, then another, then another. Garbage to clean off the sidewalk in front of the store every morning. Urine to wash out of our doorway alcove. Graffiti to remove,” Ms. McDougall wrote in an email. “Costs to board up and later we’ll have costs to repair.”

The impact of the occupation on Cafe Argento, Mr. Khan’s coffee shop on Capitol Hill, has been devastating. Very few people braved the barricades set up by the armed occupiers to come in for his coffee and breakfast sandwiches. Cars coming to pick up food orders would turn around. At two points, he and his workers felt scared and called 911. “They said they would not come into CHOP,” said Mr. Khan, referring to one of the names that protesters gave to the occupied Capitol Hill area. “It was lawless.”

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He had to start chipping in for private security, a hard thing to do when his business had already been hurt by the coronavirus.

But he considers himself lucky — and he was. Even weeks after the protests, blocks of his previously bustling neighborhood remained boarded up and covered in shattered glass. Many business owners are scared to speak out, Mr. Khan said, because of worries that they would be targeted further.

One mid-July morning in the neighborhood, workers in orange vests were mopping off the sidewalks and power-spraying graffiti off the sides of buildings. Two window repair guys said they had their hands full for weeks. Shattered street lamps were being unscrewed and replaced.

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A confusing array of security teams wandered around, armed with handguns and rifles. Some wore official-looking private security uniforms. Others wore casual clothes and lanyards identifying their affiliation with Black Lives Matter. A third group wore all black with no identifying labels and declined to name their group affiliation.

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Rick Hearns displays two handguns while patrolling Capitol Hill as a private security guard. His badge reads “Black Lives Matter Community Patrol.”Credit...Grant Hindsley for The New York Times

When a tall man in a trench coat and hiking boots walked over to question Mr. Khan, the man spread his coat open, revealing several pistols on harnesses around his chest and waist. He presented a badge on a lanyard that read “Black Lives Matter Community Patrol.”

His name is Rick Hearns and he identified himself as a longtime security guard and mover who is now a Black Lives Matter community guard, in charge of several others. Local merchants pay for his protection, he said as he handed out his business card. (Mr. Khan said he and his neighbors are now paying thousands of dollars a month for protection from Iconic Global, a Washington State-based private security contractor.)

Mr. Hearns has had bad experiences with the police in his own life. He says he wants police reform, but he was appalled by the violent tactics and rhetoric he witnessed during the occupation.

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He blamed the destruction and looting on “opportunists,” but also said that much of the damage on Capitol Hill came from a distinct contingent of violent, armed white activists. “It’s antifa,” he said. “They don’t want to see the progress we’ve made. They want chaos.”

Many of the business owners on Capitol Hill agreed: Much of the violence they saw and the intimidation of their patrons came from a group these business owners identified as antifa, which they distinguished from the Black Lives Matter movement. “The idea of taking up the Black movement and turning it into a white occupation, it’s white privilege in its finest definition,” Mr. Khan said. “And that’s what they did.”

Antifa, which stands for anti-fascist, is a radical, leaderless leftist political movement that uses armed, violent protest as a method to create what supporters say is a more just and equitable country. They have a strong presence in the Pacific Northwest, including the current protests in Portland.

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Police officers did not retake the Capitol Hill Occupied Protest zone, where demonstrators graffitied walls and broke windows, until after four shootings had occurred there. Credit...Grant Hindsley for The New York Times

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When the occupation in Seattle started in early June, Mayor Jenny Durkan seemed almost amused. “We could have the Summer of Love,” she said.

After President Trump took aim at the governor of Washington State and Seattle’s mayor on June 11, Ms. Durkan defended the occupation on Twitter as “a peaceful expression of our community’s collective grief and their desire to build a better world,” she wrote, pointing to the “food trucks, spaghetti potlucks, teach-ins, and movies.”

The lawsuit by the small-business owners, filed by the firm Calfo Eakes on June 24, seizes on such language, pointing out that the city knew what was happening and provided material support for the occupation.

Matthew Ploszaj, a Capitol Hill resident, is one of the complainants. He said his apartment building, blocks from Mr. Khan’s shop, was broken into four times during the occupation. The Seattle Police were called each time and never came to his apartment, according to Mr. Ploszaj. When he and another resident called the police after one burglary, they told him to meet them outside the occupation zone, about eight blocks away. He and other residents spent nights at a friend’s house outside the area during the height of the protests.

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The employees of Bergman’s Lock and Key say they were followed by demonstrators with baseball bats. Cure Cocktail, a local bar and charcuterie, said its workers were asked by protesters to pledge loyalty to the movement: “Are you for the CHOP or are you for the police?” they were asked, according to the lawsuit.

The business owners also found that trying to get help from the Seattle Police, who declined to comment for this article, made them targets of activists.

Across from Cafe Argento is a funky old auto repair shop called Car Tender run by John McDermott, a big soft-spoken man. On June 14, Mr. McDermott was driving his wife home from their anniversary dinner when he received a call from a neighbor who saw someone trying to break into his shop.

Mr. McDermott and his 27-year-old son, Mason, raced over. A man who was inside the shop, Mr. McDermott said, had emptied the cash drawer and was in the midst of setting the building on fire. Mr. McDermott said he and his son wrestled the man down and planned to hold him until the police arrived. But officers never showed up. A group of several hundred protesters did, according to Mr. McDermott, breaking down the chain-link fence around his shop and claiming that Mr. McDermott had kidnapped the man.

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“They started coming across the fence — you see all these beautiful kids, a mob but kids — and they have guns and are pointing them at you and telling you they’re going to kill you,” Mr. McDermott said. “Telling me I’m the K.K.K. I’m not the K.K.K.”

The demonstrators were livestreaming the confrontation. Mr. McDermott’s wife watched, frantically calling anyone she could think of to go help him.

Later, Mr. McDermott’s photo and shop address appeared on a website called Cop Blaster, whose stated aim is to track police brutality but also has galleries of what it calls “Snitches” and “Cop Callers.” The McDermotts were categorized as both of those things on the website, which warned they should “keep their mouths shut.”

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John McDermott said the police did not respond when his auto repair shop on Capitol Hill was being robbed by someone trying to set the building on fire.Credit...Grant Hindsley for The New York Times

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Many of the listings include names and addresses of people who are said to have called the police. Since the Cop Blaster post went up, Mr. McDermott’s shop has received so many harassing phone calls and messages that some employees have had to take time off.

A block away is Bill Donner, the owner of Richmark Label, who let police officers use the roof of his factory to monitor the demonstration. Inside, his company had spent 50 years making labels for products like whiskey, soaps and natural beef jerky. Many days during the occupation, Mr. Donner, who said he was in favor of police reform, had to negotiate with the occupiers of the zone for access to his factory.

Twice, he called 911 and was told that the police would not be coming into the area.

The experience of the small-business owners seems a universe away from the rhetoric of Seattle’s politicians. As the violence turned deadly, Councilwoman Kshama Sawant, who represents Capitol Hill, defended the protesters’ use of their own armed guards instead of the police.

“Elected committees of self defense have historically played vital roles during general strikes, occupations and in mass movements, in order for the working class and marginalized people to defend themselves and carry out necessary functions in place of the forces of the state,” she wrote. She has called for the local police precinct to be permanently placed under “community control.”

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When the mayor did send in police officers to end the occupation after the shootings, Ms. Sawant wrote on Twitter, “Shame on Mayor Jenny Durkan for deploying Seattle police yesterday in a brutal attack against peaceful Black Lives Matter protesters & homeless neighbors at the Capitol Hill Organized Protest.”

Many protesters who remained in early July were milling around a small tent encampment on a lawn at Seattle Central College, some with rifles slung over their shoulders. The smell of weed drifted through. The streets were full of moving trucks.

The crowds were gone, but every now and then, the demonstrators gave speeches about the importance of disbanding the police. Sometimes the activists spoke about what went wrong with the occupation. One young woman on a bullhorn argued to passers-by that the police left too quickly and that a sustainable police-free region would have to be built more slowly.

These days, storefronts in the neighborhood remain boarded up, covered in Black Lives Matter signs and graffiti. Demonstrators still hold evening protests, albeit smaller and quieter than before. But the businesses remain on edge.

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“This is an ongoing crisis,” Mr. Donner said on Tuesday. “Protesters are apparently staying until they get some of what they want. No one knows what level of city cooperation will be enough for them.”

But the area is slowly going back to its old normal. The park and playing fields have been cleared, and police officers have returned to the streets. An apartment building that opened earlier this summer is finally attracting prospective tenants.

A spokeswoman for Mayor Durkan did not comment on the lawsuit but acknowledged frustrations from small businesses.

“Many who live and work in Capitol Hill and other parts of the city continue to witness daily protests that are rightly demanding an end to systemic racism,” she wrote. “In some circumstances, businesses and residents have faced property destruction in the last two months.”

She encouraged the businesses to file claims.

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Date: August 7th, 2020 3:06 PM
Author: misanthropic locus brethren

When a tall man in a trench coat and hiking boots walked over to question Mr. Khan, the man spread his coat open, revealing several pistols on harnesses around his chest and waist. He presented a badge on a lanyard that read “Black Lives Matter Community Patrol.”

His name is Rick Hearns and he identified himself as a longtime security guard and mover who is now a Black Lives Matter community guard, in charge of several others. Local merchants pay for his protection, he said as he handed out his business card.

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Date: August 7th, 2020 6:12 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Idiot Office

where the fuck is trump's department of justice in all of this? armed racketeers literally took over a portion of an american city and SHOT people for approaching their own illegal blockades. where the fuck are the RICO roundups and the federal conspiracy charges? this is easy stuff.

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Date: August 7th, 2020 6:21 PM
Author: Stirring Slippery Rigpig

They only do coups now

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Date: August 7th, 2020 6:47 PM
Author: odious jet-lagged wagecucks



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Date: August 7th, 2020 6:22 PM
Author: Cracking party of the first part

Antifa types are literally embedded in the DOI

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Date: August 7th, 2020 6:43 PM
Author: clear electric native



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Date: August 7th, 2020 6:45 PM
Author: odious jet-lagged wagecucks

"The issue is especially tense in Seattle, where the city government not only permitted the establishment of a police-free zone, but provided infrastructure like concrete barriers and portable toilets to sustain it."

The issue is especially tense in Seattle, where the city government not only permitted the establishment of a police-free zone, but provided infrastructure like concrete barriers and portable toilets to sustain it.

The issue is especially tense in Seattle, where the city government not only permitted the establishment of a police-free zone, but provided infrastructure like concrete barriers and portable toilets to sustain it.

The issue is especially tense in Seattle, where the city government not only permitted the establishment of a police-free zone, but provided infrastructure like concrete barriers and portable toilets to sustain it.

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Date: August 7th, 2020 6:49 PM
Author: Stirring Slippery Rigpig

Summer of Love, bro

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Date: August 7th, 2020 11:10 PM
Author: arrogant carmine school



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Date: August 7th, 2020 9:05 PM
Author: pearl becky mad cow disease

“Later, Mr. McDermott’s photo and shop address appeared on a website called Cop Blaster, whose stated aim is to track police brutality but also has galleries of what it calls “Snitches” and “Cop Callers.” The McDermotts were categorized as both of those things on the website, which warned they should “keep their mouths shut.”

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Date: August 7th, 2020 9:07 PM
Author: Passionate harsh theater stage

we need a 'mod blaster' site for similar purposes on xo

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Date: August 7th, 2020 11:14 PM
Author: Shivering geriatric pisswyrm

(Nyuug)

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Date: August 7th, 2020 11:13 PM
Author: very tactful spruce really tough guy

Literally everybody affiliated with that site should be staring at federal charges

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Date: August 7th, 2020 11:30 PM
Author: Aromatic scarlet crackhouse

this means fucking zero

let's see the retractions, the apologies, the mea culpas from nyt for everything that preceded this

but really the nyt lost its status due to all of the shitlibbery. the best thing to do with the nyt is completely ignore it. cancel something that actually deserves it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40722654)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 6:44 AM
Author: Medicated water buffalo

*meas culpa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40723130)



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Date: August 9th, 2020 12:59 AM
Author: Chestnut vigorous roast beef selfie

*nostra culpa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40726827)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 12:48 PM
Author: concupiscible center

a Black Lives Matter community guard, in charge of several others. Local merchants pay for his protection, he said

a Black Lives Matter community guard, in charge of several others. Local merchants pay for his protection, he said

a Black Lives Matter community guard, in charge of several others. Local merchants pay for his protection, he said

a Black Lives Matter community guard, in charge of several others. Local merchants pay for his protection, he said

a Black Lives Matter community guard, in charge of several others. Local merchants pay for his protection, he said

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40724074)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 12:52 PM
Author: dead juggernaut trailer park

LOL this piece of shit voted for an insane communist turdskin and is now "actively looking for somewhere else to live" after being assfucked by living in CHAZ for a month:

Eric

Seattle, Washington

Aug. 7

Times Pick

I live two blocks from the former "CHOP" zone, this is my neighborhood, I had frequent many of the businesses affected. I'm a Democrat who voted for Sawant over an Amazon backed candidate (chagrin leaves a bitter taste). What I witnessed was a total break down of civil society. It felt like the beginning of the end, my worst fears realized. No one has "won" anything. We lost a mayor, the city council, the police, our neighborhood, any sense that ANYTHING was being done, except perhaps letting the temper tantrums of petulant children play out. Except these kids didn't live here, had guns, intimidated my neighbors, and ruined property. The police pouting in their corner, grasping for power, patently ignoring legitimate calls for help. The wild west. The valuable BLM message completely hijacked by self-appointed, disaffected, white, non-residents playing "security". The ANTITHESIS of peaceful protest. An abdication of responsibility to the residents and businesses already in shock from the various crisis roiling all around. I saw no "parlay" or communication from any party. Ignorance, anger, garbage, and destruction on full display. Frustration, acrimony, lots of finger-pointing but zero attempts at any robust peacemaking. To say that I am disappointed by Seattle's response to a desperate need is an understatement. Shame on all parties! And congratulations! A valuable and cathartic opportunity completely squandered! I am actively looking for somewhere else to live.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40724083)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 1:06 PM
Author: Blathering curious international law enforcement agency

notably people like this psycho have only been able to turn against CHOP once everyone agreed that CHOP was entirely organized by white people. this theme looms large in the NYT article too, which is why this is not really any kind of return to sanity for them - it is very normal for them to ignore something bad until they have workshopped an explanation that blames whites only.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40724158)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 1:53 PM
Author: primrose stimulating hissy fit stag film

It's also not correct on critical points, namely that the warlord of Chaz was not white.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40724328)



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Date: August 9th, 2020 2:01 AM
Author: swashbuckling indecent kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40726970)



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Date: August 9th, 2020 2:11 AM
Author: odious jet-lagged wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40726981)



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Date: August 9th, 2020 11:38 AM
Author: Mind-boggling internet-worthy windowlicker base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40727701)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 1:21 PM
Author: ruddy place of business fanboi

That was a close race, too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40724208)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 1:26 PM
Author: Aromatic scarlet crackhouse

"The zone, originally covering six city blocks and a park, was established on June 8, 2020"

the date of this post? august 7

eric, go fuck yourself. your post is 58 days too late

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40724229)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 5:13 PM
Author: insecure drunken cumskin business firm

he voted for someone who explicitly and repeatedly said: "I'm going to do X" then acts offended and betrayed that X happened

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40725059)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 5:27 PM
Author: Nubile Foreskin

chop should be reestablished and he should be barred from ever living anywhere else

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40725106)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 2:16 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Cyan Boltzmann

The Times' Tiktok reporter passive agressively tweets a CHAZ puff piece from a month and a half a guy because she's salty about the Bowles story

https://twitter.com/TaylorLorenz/status/1292157556308180992?s=19

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40724397)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 2:43 PM
Author: razzmatazz deranged old irish cottage deer antler

Are you Taylor Lorenz?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40724529)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 5:37 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Cyan Boltzmann

>_>

<_<

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40725142)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 2:43 PM
Author: Out-of-control copper mood resort

reading Lorenz will lower your IQ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40724530)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 5:16 PM
Author: Out-of-control copper mood resort

tbf, Nellie Bowles is a hack too. She wrote abig story on Sec 230 a month ago that was roundly ripped to shreds by lawyers. it was apparent she had no clue how the law worked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40725075)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 5:46 PM
Author: insecure drunken cumskin business firm

none of them do. A couple years ago I wrote to vox to ask them to correct a story about a change in the law, and they refused. if someone read the story at face value they might think they had no case anymore because of the legal change, so they wouldn't even bother calling a lawyer (i.e., me). in reality the new law made your case harder, but not impossible.

The reporter wrote back saying something like, ok your opinion may be more nuanced but we think it's accurate enough so we're leaving it. I suspect they left it unchanged because they wanted to make orange man look bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40725176)



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Date: August 8th, 2020 8:01 PM
Author: Out-of-control copper mood resort

The board had a similarly lulzy experience with the 1689 Project NYT hack when she wrote about the Fisher v UT Austin lawsuit a few years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40725548)



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Date: August 9th, 2020 1:18 PM
Author: lake dysfunction

your opinion may be more nuanced, but orange man bad tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40728198)



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Date: August 10th, 2020 1:46 PM
Author: ruddy place of business fanboi

Was this about the Ninth Circuit's ruling on employment discrimination?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599391&forum_id=2#40733250)