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Bidding on firms that have had massive layoffs: retarded?
| Beady-eyed dead partner circlehead | 07/01/09 |
| vigorous library | 07/01/09 |
| Beady-eyed dead partner circlehead | 07/01/09 |
| canary abode | 07/01/09 |
| Underhanded Fat Ankles Area | 07/01/09 |
| Provocative charcoal hissy fit really tough guy | 07/01/09 |
| big cruise ship | 07/01/09 |
| canary abode | 07/01/09 |
| canary abode | 07/01/09 |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 2:55 AM Author: Beady-eyed dead partner circlehead I'm confused about this. I know the conventional wisdom is fuck latham, etc., but are these firms really more likely to bone next yrs summers than firms that are just doing stealth layoffs and salary freezes right now? Seems like they wouldnt need to bring another wave and new summers would be safe. or am i retarded? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031289&forum_id=2#12130895) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 3:34 AM Author: vigorous library you have an ethical duty to support firms that treated their associates well. otherwise we're all fucked. stay very, very, very far away from latham. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031289&forum_id=2#12130975) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 3:54 AM Author: Beady-eyed dead partner circlehead makes sense. ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031289&forum_id=2#12130996) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:37 PM Author: canary abode given latham's behavior in the 90s and their behavior now, they've demonstrated that they'll fuck you over at the first sign of trouble. peer firms are biting the bullet instead of laying people off. so, do you want to be at a firm that fucks over first years at the first sign of trouble, or do you want a firm that's going to honor its commitment to you? NY cleared out 45% of associates accross all class levels. they by no means needed to do that to survive.
that said, if latham is all you can get, take it. but if you can go to gibson, or any good firm that doesn't screw over its associates, then do that.
and don't think you're safe just because they've cleaned house alread. this financial mess could take years to unwind and that could mean more layoffs down the line. just ask any junior associate at Latham NY or LA how safe they feel right now. that should answer your question.
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Date: July 1st, 2009 4:54 AM Author: Underhanded Fat Ankles Area uh, I think it makes sense because these firms are a lot less likely to hire you in the first place (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031289&forum_id=2#12131057) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 7:36 AM Author: Provocative charcoal hissy fit really tough guy I think this is actually a very good idea. Firms that have done massive purges of associates are probably less likely to have further layoffs and deferrals. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031289&forum_id=2#12131120) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:19 PM Author: big cruise ship this is dangerous thinking. If crappy firms can treat associates like shit with impunity, then all firms will begin to treat associates like those firms do. the only reason we attorneys are as fortunate as we are is because our ability to vote with our feet and shun firms that act like Latham. You must do your part, just as we will all do ours.
On a more individual level, though, it really isn't an issue of whether firms will have cut enough to survive. It's an issue of firm culture and mentality. If a firm views associates as commodities, you'll be worse off in good times and in bad. |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:39 PM Author: canary abode and latham now has multiple data points where they've treated firms like shit. multiple recruiters have told me that this is just what latham does, citing their past mass layoffs. they did it to a shit load of people and they'll do it to you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031289&forum_id=2#12132353) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:38 PM Author: canary abode see above (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031289&forum_id=2#12132347) |