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Medea - how old would your aborted baby be now?
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Date: July 13th, 2009 11:43 PM Author: translucent fragrant office liquid oxygen like 5 or 6? probably entering kindergarten. do you think he/she would have been recognized in the 'gifted' program? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237485) |
Date: July 13th, 2009 11:46 PM Author: Sable Mexican Mine would have been six months old, I think. I don't really recall. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237528) |
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Date: July 13th, 2009 11:48 PM Author: concupiscible nursing home Probably would have been heart-wrenchingly adorable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237555) |
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Date: July 13th, 2009 11:52 PM Author: Sable Mexican Probably. But we'll make another when the time is right. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237612) |
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Date: July 13th, 2009 11:55 PM Author: translucent fragrant office liquid oxygen i hope your next kid turns out full retard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237641) |
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Date: July 13th, 2009 11:55 PM Author: Sable Mexican then it's definitely getting aborted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237649) |
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Date: July 13th, 2009 11:58 PM Author: translucent fragrant office liquid oxygen it won't be detected (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237680) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:06 AM Author: Brass Galvanic Mad-dog Skullcap Roast Beef Then they'll drown it in a bucket. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237783) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:09 AM Author: Hairraiser twinkling uncleanness ape That's mean. They should cut its head off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237827) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:12 AM Author: Sable Mexican how about leaving it on a mountainside in winter? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237878) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:28 AM Author: Hairraiser twinkling uncleanness ape Cruel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12238060) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:07 AM Author: provocative autistic hell skinny woman I hate when people say this. I'm not surprised to see it on XO, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237800) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:08 AM Author: Sable Mexican you'd expect me to purposely birth a retard? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237806) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:10 AM Author: provocative autistic hell skinny woman Depends on the level of severity. I mean, I can see where you're coming from if you're talking about the type who can never function without supervision. But aside from that, I think that "I don't want to give birth to/raise a retard" is an incredibly selfish, elitist attitude to have. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237835) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:11 AM Author: Sable Mexican I'm not going to dedicate my life to raising a downy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237859) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:13 AM Author: provocative autistic hell skinny woman To each her own. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237884) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 10:54 AM Author: Godawful excitant chapel No, but you're going to change the diapers for your "husband" when you're 35. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12240520) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 2:51 PM Author: Sable Mexican These are the things you do for someone when you choose to marry them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12242369) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:01 PM Author: aromatic set "I think that "I don't want to give birth to/raise a retard" is an incredibly selfish, elitist attitude to have."
So what? |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:36 PM Author: provocative autistic hell skinny woman I don't particularly CARE what decisions others make in their lives, but I'm allowed to express my disapproval, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245584) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:57 PM Author: Sable Mexican sure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245788) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:09 AM Author: Hairraiser twinkling uncleanness ape Wtf? Why? Who in their right mind would carry a retard to term? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237832) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:10 AM Author: Fuchsia plaza dysfunction you're mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237837) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:11 AM Author: concupiscible nursing home ARE country (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237858) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:26 AM Author: Hairraiser twinkling uncleanness ape I went to a T14!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12238032) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:38 AM Author: arousing quadroon ICE BURN! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12238191) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 12:50 PM Author: Sable Mexican ZING! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12261303) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:10 AM Author: provocative autistic hell skinny woman Lots of people do... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237843) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:14 AM Author: Sable Mexican then they're either a saint or incredibly stupid, depending on your pov (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237908) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:26 AM Author: Hairraiser twinkling uncleanness ape They're fucking retards themselves though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12238038) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:10 AM Author: Motley scourge upon the earth It's got nothing in particular to do with xoxo, I was reading an article the other day that said about 85-90% of fetuses which test positive for Downs are aborted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237844) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:12 AM Author: Sable Mexican why spend my time and resources on a downy, if I can try again and have a kid that will actually be something? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237871) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:13 AM Author: Motley scourge upon the earth I think I would do the same.
Actually the figure is 91-93% according to wikipedia. |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:20 AM Author: provocative autistic hell skinny woman Okay, I'm thinking about it, and I've come to this conclusion: I admit that I wouldn't want to raise ONLY a kid with Down Syndrome. I'd like to have at least one "normal" kid, too, because I'd like to have the experience of raising someone with more potential. But I would never abort a child for the sole reason that it was going to be retarded. If the severity and accompanying health problems were such that I couldn't foresee the kid having anything but a fucking miserable life, I'd abort. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237970) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:27 AM Author: Hairraiser twinkling uncleanness ape " But I would never abort a child for the sole reason that it was going to be retarded."
Gross. |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:35 AM Author: provocative autistic hell skinny woman I just talked to my boyfriend and he feels similarly. But we're young and perhaps idealistic; this attitude may change. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12238153) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 10:34 AM Author: confused swashbuckling goyim electric furnace I think what you need to realize is the lifetime of care necessary to raise a downy. Some Down Syndrome people end up in group homes after they finish "school" but those are usually pretty gross and if you're going to have the child, I'd expect you'll want to care for him/her too. If that's the case, you'll essentially be caring for a mental three year old until you die. Oh, and this three year old may eventually be 5'10" 250 pounds, and have no conception of its own strength. That is a very difficult decision to make. I think many of the people who decide to carry a retard to term don't consider this (aside from the people who are categorically against abortion). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12240417) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 10:55 AM Author: Bearded onyx fortuitous meteor resort There's a wide range of capabilities in DS. Many can hold jobs and live on their own. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12240525) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 11:03 AM Author: confused swashbuckling goyim electric furnace "Many". Ok, but I wouldn't say most. Too lazy to go look for such a statistic. It's probably easy enough to find, though. The fact is you won't know when you make the decision to carry it, and so you have to be prepared for the likely, or even the worst-case scenario. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12240569) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 11:06 AM Author: Violet forum double fault I have a brother who's pretty high-functioning and still needs quite a bit of help, holds some 10-hour a week job that the government subsidizes, needs to have his money and pretty much everything managed for him, gets into random trouble with people on the street picking on him. I'll probably be supporting him quite a bit within the next 10-15 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12240582) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 11:08 AM Author: Bearded onyx fortuitous meteor resort Hmm, sounds like my brother. Who doesn't have DS. ;) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12240597) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 11:10 AM Author: Violet forum double fault he got arrested once for going to the police station and screaming about someone hitting him. he wouldn't settle down, so they put him in a cell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12240609) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:44 PM Author: provocative autistic hell skinny woman I may be assuming a level of knowledge that is beyond our current capability. As I said above, I would understand the decision to abort a child that will never be able to function without supervision at all times and/or would lead (what I deem) a miserable life due to the severity of the retardation and its accompanying health problems. But it's quite possible that there's no way of getting a precise idea of the level of severity before the point at which the decision would have to be made.
For the record, I'm pro-choice in ANY scenario; I'm just talking about what my personal ethic code would dictate. I'm not flattering myself so as to think that my opinions MATTER -- but I do have a right to express my opinion that "x is an elitist attitude" or "y is a selfish decision." |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:30 AM Author: Sable Mexican We're only going to have one, and that one will have the best of everything. I suppose I can see where you're coming from, but it just wouldn't be for me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12239980) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:19 PM Author: diverse ticket booth God that kid is going to be fucked up. Nebbish, geriatric Jewish father with a whole other family + shrewish introvert/autistic mother with shady slut past and no friends. You should consider yourself lucky if he's not torturing small animals and collecting women's hair and nail clippings before the age of ten.
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Date: July 14th, 2009 2:03 PM Author: Sable Mexican He's going to be well-educated with all opportunities in life available to him and two parents dedicated to his well-being. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12241940) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 2:09 PM Author: diverse ticket booth His dad will be an old man, and his mom a borderline whack-job who writes arm-breaking fantasies and then posts them on the interweb. He'll be an only child and his education won't be anything special. He'll be physically pwned with your white trash fat genes and dad's tiny weak Jew genes. Fuck, poor kid.
And Jesus, lulz at your poorsville excitement over being able to provide a normal life for a kid. If you think having standard opportunities and the modest affluence you two will provide is some kind of surefire avenue to good development, then you definitely have never spent any time around people with money. |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 2:16 PM Author: Sable Mexican we'll see. his daughter is cute and seems to be doing well and his ex-wife looks a lot worse than I do.
his education will be A+
you have no idea what old dude has for resources |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:07 PM Author: diverse ticket booth his daughter is with another person - your white trash genes are fusing with his tiny jew dwarf genes - not a good combo. bad at sports, small, possible lardass genetics from you, and the IQ will regress to the mean i.e. more like mommy, who isn't all that smart.
you miss my point about resources - nurture only goes so far. only a poortown upbringing like yours would make you think the kid's life will pwn just because you're able to spend some money on him. you have no concept of what this is like, so you don't really know what you're referring to. great education could still mean the best he can do is some shitty LAC and working at starbucks while he blows glass on the side. which will be fine for him, but ultimately disappointing to a nuclear striver parent like you.
old dude is upper middle class, probably, nothing more. since he has kids that don't live with him, he probably got his ass pounded in the divorce, and it's not like he's been pulling down millions for years as a law prof. he makes okay money, got shat on in a divorce, and is probably intensely conservative with saving and spending. he'll shell out a little to keep his young sex toy wife happy, but the only reason you feel like you're about to enter a world of decadence is because you're clearly a poor and easily impressed. your other posts on this show that you're foaming at the mouth for what he can 'provide,' which is basically just a stable lifestyle. |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:18 PM Author: Sable Mexican Pretty sure nobody could consider my upbringing poortown white trash. why would you assume that? You do know sexual abuse can happen to anybody right?
Our child will be raised by a wealthy academic in a culture that values academic achievement. If the kid want to do something else with his life that's his choice and not something I can control. I realize that. |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:45 PM Author: diverse ticket booth "why would you assume that?'
mixture of your intense striving, excitement over the prospect of having some financial means from your husband, and the fact that you lost your virginity to a fast food worker a decade older, who you felt it was a wise choice to date in your early teens. not a common choice for kids from privilege. at best you have a lower middle class background, in which case you still really don't know what realy money privilege looks like.
"Our child will be raised by a wealthy academic"
lol, you mean by a TTT law professor with a little bit of savings, and hopefully some income when he's not dishing out child support and alimony for his other family? not exactly the zenithy of the world, but still a huge step up for you, which explains your excitement.
"in a culture that values academic achievement"
oh yeah, you're right, this always works out perfectly! it really just gives the kid a fighting chance considering how weird his home life will be, but all the same, certainly do emphasize that academic achievement.
"If the kid want to do something else with his life that's his choice and not something I can control. I realize that."
something else? you already have plans for him? like is said, if i were you i'd be worried about not raising a complete basket case, let alone what his career path will be.
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:50 PM Author: Sable Mexican Every parent has plans for their child. More often than not they choose a different course, I'm sure.
I'm more excited about being provided for as I work in a job I like and still have time to spend with my child and husband. That's not something that can be taken for granted by anybody. I did have undergrad and law school paid for by my parents, though, which is good. So I'd have some flexibility either way. |
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Date: July 15th, 2009 5:07 AM Author: diverse ticket booth "Every parent has plans for their child"
so you actually do have plans for a kid you haven't even conceived yet? yeah, no chance this kid isn't going to be severely fucked up by his parents . . .
"I'm more excited about being provided for as I work in a job I like and still have time to spend with my child and husband"
uh, yeah, you mean the situation of like 85% of all working mothers? congrats. you'll never have a serious law job, by the way, but i'm sure doing some admin shit for a tiny city or whatever you manage to get with zero experience applying years after graduation will be deeply rewarding.
"I did have undergrad and law school paid for by my parents, though, which is good"
funny, before i remember you posting about how you have a horrible relationship with your parents and they give you no assistance. now they're awesome and picked up the several hundred thousand deep bill for school? sure thing, dude.
"So I'd have some flexibility either way"
huh? one second you're creaming yourself over the idea of being 'provided for,' and the next you're asserting that you have financial independence and it was never an issue? try to keep your bullshit straight, please, this was too easy.
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Date: July 15th, 2009 8:39 AM Author: Sable Mexican Why do you find it impossible to believe parents want something for their children? Explain your line of argument. All parents have hopes and dreams for their kids, it's tough to imagine why you'd think otherwise.
I'm hoping for a particular federal agency and I foresee no difficulty getting a job there. I have an SA job now but I really don't want to work there after graduation.
they gave me no assistance concerning the rape because I never asked for any. they're emotionally distant in general. however they've financially supported me very well. Husband will be better becasue he's emotionally supportive as well..
I'd rather have the option to not work at all if I don't need to. to be frank, the idea of being independent was a little frightening but it would have been doable. |
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Date: July 15th, 2009 4:11 PM Author: diverse ticket booth "Why do you find it impossible to believe parents want something for their children? Explain your line of argument."
want something for the children =/= already has a plan for what they will be or do, which is what you indicated. you don't want it for the kid, you want it for yourself in that it fits your idealized version of your future life. this, in general, fucks kids up because they're raised as an extension of the parent's ambition. you already sound pretty emotionally unsophisticated on this subject, which isn't surprising.
"I'm hoping for a particular federal agency and I foresee no difficulty getting a job there"
if you take time off to get pregnant, have the kid, and spend some time it until shoving it into daycare/nanny/preschool so you can work, then it will be insanely difficult to get some kind of fed job. i know you feel like you escaped the TTT ghetto by gunning into MVP, but you're still academically unremarkable and aren't going to me much of a candidate for anything federal when you try applying in a few years. not sure you understand how federal hiring works. having an SA gig right now matters for just about nothing.
"however they've financially supported me very well. Husband will be better becasue he's emotionally supportive as well.."
eh, this is completely inconsistent with what you used to say about this, but i'll leave it alone if you're clearly willing to bullshit about it. i will just say that the crazed excitement over marrying a divorced law professor - which apparently is an income level you identify as "wealthy" - indicates that you didn't grow up with much, as does the fact that you started banging fast food employees while you were in middle school, but this is all tangential to the point.
"to be frank, the idea of being independent was a little frightening but it would have been doable."
lol, a ways back you stated that you didn't know or care if it worked out with gross old man, now your line is that you never really wanted to work or have a career anyway. you seem mentally and emotionally underdeveloped given how flaky and inconsistent you are on all this. hopefully the old dude has the parenting skills and maturity you clearly lack, but since his first marriage collapsed after years and immediately started lusting after students half his age, it's questionable. |
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Date: July 15th, 2009 4:38 PM Author: Sable Mexican no, I did not "indicate" that.
Also, I'd be applying to the agencies now, having the kid after about a year, and working with the kid in daycare |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 8:58 AM Author: diverse ticket booth "no, I did not "indicate" that."
sure you did - it's right there in the posts, plain as day.
"Also, I'd be applying to the agencies now, having the kid after about a year, and working with the kid in daycare"
uh, so you're not actually going to raise the kid? you realize even federal maternity leave isn't that long, right? so you're going to be a pushy, detached, controlling, absentee parent? and his dad will probably be confined to a wheelchair with old age as he approaches the end of high school? what a sweet life!
like i said, i wish nothing but the best for this kid - he's going to need all the help he can get. |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 9:19 AM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested Dude, she's from Burr Ridge, IL, lower-middle-class and full of a bunch of retards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12259859) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 9:22 AM Author: diverse ticket booth sounds about right. i've never heard her deny her poortown roots before this thread, as if they weren't obvious from the fact that she considers the income of a law professor to be "wealthy." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12259866) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 9:24 AM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested look up Burr Ridge IL for more details. it's true lulz if she thinks that place is wealthy.
professors don't make jack shit, not even if they've been at it for 20 years and are a dean
I think full professors here make something like $200,000 a year. anyone who thinks that's wealthy is delusional |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 9:41 AM Author: diverse ticket booth i think her posting history and just ITT makes a pretty good case for her being delusional.
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Date: July 16th, 2009 9:43 AM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested Seriously, dude, if you need some entertainment, look up home values in her "wealthy neighborhood." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12259947) |
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Date: July 15th, 2009 4:20 PM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested rich people don't go to Burger King, and they certainly don't let their kids eat there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12253635) |
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Date: July 15th, 2009 4:23 PM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested You're from Burr Ridge Illinois, hick central. I knew a couple of idiots from there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12253684) |
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Date: July 15th, 2009 4:18 PM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested you will birth a retard fuckup baby and I'll laugh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12253612) |
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Date: July 15th, 2009 4:20 PM Author: diverse ticket booth seems plausible. his sperm is old and corrupt, and she's much more likely than average to produce an autistic kid. no testing in the womb for that, i believe, so sucks for them when little rain man starts manifesting at age three or four. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12253636) |
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Date: July 15th, 2009 4:24 PM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested that and a host of mental diseases that don't crop up until teens. hope she has fun with that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12253691) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:27 AM Author: Hairraiser twinkling uncleanness ape 10-15% of people choose to have the kids? That's crazy. I could see 1% at most. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12238046) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 10:47 AM Author: confused swashbuckling goyim electric furnace I was surprised in the opposite way.
If you went out on the street and asked a random sample of Americans, I would bet you'd find a larger percentage of people will tell you they are categorically against abortion. The wikipedia page says 22% are in favor of banning all abortions.
Another CBS Poll in the wikipedia article had 4% of respondents say abortion should never be permitted, but 16% said "only to save a woman's life" and another 24% said "only to save woman's life, and cases of rape or incest." Now, of course, I don't think the study specifically asked about abortions due to damaged fetuses, but still, a staggering 44% in that study, if they had their way, would effectively outlaw aborting based on retardation.
However, when asked specifically about aborting based on the health of the fetus, that 22% number categorically against abortion, or 44% of people who think it should at the very least be illegal except for/health of mother/incest/rape turns into 10-15%.
It's not earthshatteringly surprising that people don't think every scenario through when taking the other polls, but the fact remains that, given the religious/ideological makeup of this country, in order to get you to 85-90% of people choosing to abort a downy, you probably have to have some bible-toting anti-abortion people saying they'd do it. |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 10:53 AM Author: Violet forum double fault I agree.
I have a cousin who had four kids in her 20s, got pregnant again twice in her 40s for some reason, knew full well they were downies, and kept them. I think there's a lot of people like her, especially in certain parts of the country. |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 10:57 AM Author: aphrodisiac arrogant potus messiness Who cares about the random sample--all that matters is what happens when the girl is confronted with the fact that her OWN baby is going to be retarded.
Most people don't actually have categorical principles, despite what they claim. |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 11:08 AM Author: confused swashbuckling goyim electric furnace "Who cares about the random sample"
"Most people don't actually have categorical principles, despite what they claim"
The second part of your post was my point, and THAT's why I care about the random sample. Many Anti-abortion people claim to be ardently principled when it comes to this particular issue, but the statistics make a pretty strong argument for the fact that at least some people who claim to be categorically against abortion really aren't.
Stop trying to be the typical xoxo Contrarian and read what I wrote, and you'll see that you actually agree with me. |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:08 PM Author: Hairraiser twinkling uncleanness ape "It's not earthshatteringly surprising that people don't think every scenario through when taking the other polls, but the fact remains that, given the religious/ideological makeup of this country, in order to get you to 85-90% of people choosing to abort a downy, you probably have to have some bible-toting anti-abortion people saying they'd do it."
This has always been true though of abortion. I seem to recall that a significant amount of pro-lifers end up having an abortion anyway. Didn't even Bush help a friend get an abortion? Its one of those things - let someone else pay the price for my shiTTTy policy. |
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Date: July 15th, 2009 4:19 PM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested someone should have aborted you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12253618) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:08 AM Author: lake sneaky criminal giraffe Did you see my post about old men producing sperm with lots of mutations, and consequently having children with a much higher incidence of schizophrenia and other neurological diseases? you might be in trouble. y not find a young dude to creampie you when it's time? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237820) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:10 AM Author: Sable Mexican I'll take my chances. If we don't catch problems and there is one, then we'll have to deal I guess. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12237838) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 2:10 PM Author: charismatic hunting ground lmfao. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12242014) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:46 AM Author: costumed laser beams goal in life This thread was wonderful. Classic XO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12240002) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 10:51 AM Author: khaki stag film This thread was hateful and rude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12240506) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:01 PM Author: umber french house half-breed Just like you bitch. You should love it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245210) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 10:25 AM Author: Violet forum double fault Older.
It probably would have been very intelligent, being raised by two married but very unhappy parents who would divorce before its 5th birthday. |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 2:08 PM Author: Multi-colored maniacal azn not a product of vikingdood-catholicgirl coupling? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12241983) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:08 PM Author: Violet forum double fault No, Jewish mama's boy-Catholic girl coupling (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245267) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:03 PM Author: Vibrant Private Investor True, I'm sure he's much happier dead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245226) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:10 PM Author: Violet forum double fault I'm sure it never had any idea. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245283) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 10:50 AM Author: Cruel-hearted spectacular lay outright infanticide is really difficult after a few hours. after 3 or 4 days it gets downright impossible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12240503) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 10:52 AM Author: Brass Galvanic Mad-dog Skullcap Roast Beef THE WORLD NEEDS MORE TRIGS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12240511) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 10:56 AM Author: aphrodisiac arrogant potus messiness Wasn't Medea supposed to have gotten pregnant some time last year? She should have a baby now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12240528) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 11:15 AM Author: aphrodisiac arrogant potus messiness well (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12240648) |
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Date: July 15th, 2009 4:19 PM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested maybe she aborted it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12253622) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 11:02 AM Author: Territorial Shaky Halford ITT, unnecessary meanness towards Madea and egregious trolling for retard babies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12240558) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 11:07 AM Author: Comical jet keepsake machete juggernaut You sound like Sarah Palin now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12240588) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 11:08 AM Author: Territorial Shaky Halford Because I don't think chicks should be made fun of for having abortions (unless they are chicks I don't like) and because I think aborting retarded babies is AWESOME?
That sounds wrong. |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 12:22 PM Author: confused swashbuckling goyim electric furnace Well why do people on this site know that they got abortions?
If they're going to volunteer that information on a site like this, I think they recognize what's coming and deserve what they get. |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 2:05 PM Author: Sable Mexican I don't think they care and they like stirring up controversy for the entertainment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12241961) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:24 PM Author: confused swashbuckling goyim electric furnace You're repulsive in so many ways. It disgusts me that you go to my school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245444) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:25 PM Author: Sable Mexican you sure about that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245457) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:26 PM Author: confused swashbuckling goyim electric furnace Which part? I'm sure I'm repulsed by you. I'm hoping I'm wrong about the school part, but I fear I'm not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245471) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:30 PM Author: Sable Mexican the latter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245525) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:31 PM Author: confused swashbuckling goyim electric furnace Did you graduate or are the rumors on here incorrect? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245538) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:35 PM Author: Sable Mexican No, I'll be a 3L in September. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245571) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 11:18 AM Author: hideous boltzmann SRSLY. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12240668) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:02 PM Author: umber french house half-breed When the hell did you get so softbatch Stabby (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245217) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:27 PM Author: Fighting gaping kitty cat how long does it take for the dead baby to decompose? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245482) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:31 PM Author: Sable Mexican I don't know. Why don't you run an experiment and find out? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245534) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:37 PM Author: Fighting gaping kitty cat want to help me make babby and watch it decompose? i can't make baby myself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245587) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:39 PM Author: Sable Mexican use a seahorse or a worm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245595) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:40 PM Author: Fighting gaping kitty cat humans would undoubtedly decompose at a different rate than a seahorse or even a worm. humans are unique. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245608) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:42 PM Author: Sable Mexican I think an inch-long one will be different from a full-formed babby, especially in that regard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245633) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:59 PM Author: Fighting gaping kitty cat we need to experiment to be sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245804) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 9:20 AM Author: Amethyst metal pozpig I was hoping this was the set-up to a joke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12259862) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:38 PM Author: Angry federal site coldplay fan why the fuck someone would ever admit this I dont know.
Also if you aren't married, dont tell the father. |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:40 PM Author: Sable Mexican good point. I almost didn't but then decided he'd probably take it well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245602) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:47 PM Author: Angry federal site coldplay fan he'd take it better if you didn't tell him, especially if you didn't give him a say in things. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245666) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:48 PM Author: Rose Menage This thread makes me sad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245680) |
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Date: July 14th, 2009 8:49 PM Author: Mind-boggling Nibblets Newt i'm normally pro-choice, but this makes me sad too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12245686) |
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Date: July 15th, 2009 4:21 PM Author: Hairraiser twinkling uncleanness ape Explain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12253655) |
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Date: July 15th, 2009 4:24 PM Author: Rose Menage It must be a horribly hard decision to abort a child, even if they have down syndrome, but it was a decision that was made and is now over with. It is cruel to create a thread bashing someone for this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12253695) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 9:20 AM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested all these whores basically brought it upon themselves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12259861) |
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Date: July 15th, 2009 4:16 PM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested would it be creepy to hang out in maternity wards listening for screaming and masturbating furiously? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12253593) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 9:37 AM Author: Dull Exhilarant Death Wish For a criminal defense case I sat through the autopsy of a newborn baby. It was the most foul thing I have ever seem, I vomited no less than 3 times. The doctor performing the autopsy was irritated at me because my puking made the autopsy take longer than he wanted.
The worst part was when they cut the head in half and removed the brain. It was horrifying, and the image will haunt me until the day I die. |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 9:38 AM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested Can you believe these worthless whores are basically doing this and laughing about it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12259927) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 9:44 AM Author: Dull Exhilarant Death Wish I can't help this case shape my opinion on abortion. The child was a beautiful little child before the autopsy, and you can imagine what it looked like afterwards.
In my case, mom killed her newborn baby. While we were working on the case, it was a common theme that if she had just gone to the doctor a few days before giving birth and had an abortion, she would have been in the clear.
We won the case by the way.
At one part of the preparation of the case, I had to stop my the morgue and pick up some of the guts of the baby to deliver to an expert for analysis. So, I was driving around with the guts of this kid in my car - it was totally fucked up. |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 9:47 AM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested exactly. Abortion does exactly this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12259968) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 9:50 AM Author: Dull Exhilarant Death Wish That was my first and last murder defense case. I'll never do it again for any reason or for any price. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12259976) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 9:54 AM Author: Bearded onyx fortuitous meteor resort Sounds pretty awful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12259991) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 9:40 AM Author: Bearded onyx fortuitous meteor resort Because it was a baby or because it was a person period? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12259934) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 9:45 AM Author: Dull Exhilarant Death Wish I don't understand your question. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12259959) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 9:53 AM Author: Bearded onyx fortuitous meteor resort Sorry. Were you so grossed out because it was a baby? Would you have responded the same had it been an adult? Just curious. I was premed so I've seen things like that. That's a pretty violent reaction, though I had a male friend completely pass out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12259987) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 10:02 AM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested most people are revolted by murder of innocents.
you sound like a lesbian. |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 10:04 AM Author: Bearded onyx fortuitous meteor resort Huh?
The murder is disgusting. Where did I say it wasn't? I've never seen a baby autopsy. I'm just wondering if he had a hard time watching because a baby was being hacked into or if he would have been just as troubled by an adult.
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Date: July 16th, 2009 10:40 AM Author: Dull Exhilarant Death Wish I would have been grossed out if it was an adult, but the fact that it was a little child made it worse. Not to be gross, but the blades cutting that very delicate skin was revolting to me. I had never seen a dead body up close before the autopsy (i.e. not pre-med), so I was nowhere near prepared for it.
Ehh, whatever though. I can see how this would not gross some people out, but it was shocking for me. |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 10:41 AM Author: Bearded onyx fortuitous meteor resort I think it would gross me out. Most cadavers I've seen were old people so there's a sense of it being natural that they're dead. It'd be weird to see a little baby - not sure I could disconnect from that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12260263) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 10:46 AM Author: Dull Exhilarant Death Wish I'm sure the situation also contributed to the level of revolt I felt. I was part of the defense team and I was there to get the person responsible off the hook. Strange, but that was one of the few cases I've had where I had a very difficult time professionally detaching from the situation.
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Date: July 16th, 2009 10:52 AM Author: stimulating rusted rehab are old people's bodies like kind of defective?
serious Q, btw. like have things started to sag or move or degenerate and are in different places than they might be with an adult or in the textbooks? |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 10:54 AM Author: Bearded onyx fortuitous meteor resort In my limited experience, no bodies are like the ones in textbooks. Sort of like the "average" cell you see in a bio book - none really exist like that. Plus the drawings never translate correctly.
But the locations of stuff, not that I'm aware of. They're just in worse shape. I haven't seen a ton of bodies though - my anatomy class used dogs (sorry!). |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 10:55 AM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested would you suck wrinkled Jewish cock in exchange for a lower-middle-class lifestyle? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12260382) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 10:57 AM Author: Bearded onyx fortuitous meteor resort I already have a lower middle class lifestyle so no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12260400) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 11:01 AM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested would you consider someone a whore who claimed she was going to suck wrinkled Jewish cock in exchange for what she believes is a wealthy lifestyle, but which is in fact a laughably lower-class one? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12260420) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 10:56 AM Author: Bearded onyx fortuitous meteor resort Compare this
http://images.medicinenet.com/images/illustrations/heart_valves.jpg
to this
http://faculty.washington.edu/kepeter/119/images/human_heart.jpg
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Date: July 16th, 2009 10:57 AM Author: stimulating rusted rehab go to like 30 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CNKdOWm0WQ |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 10:59 AM Author: Bearded onyx fortuitous meteor resort :) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12260405) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 10:55 AM Author: Dull Exhilarant Death Wish I'm sure my liver looks like an old dart board made out of coal with cigarette burns on it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12260379) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 9:48 AM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested a baby is a person
babies in the womb are a person
killing a baby in the womb is killing a person
QED |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 9:54 AM Author: Bearded onyx fortuitous meteor resort That's not what I was getting at... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12259989) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 10:41 AM Author: Dull Exhilarant Death Wish An interesting moniker for someone with a strong pro-life stance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12260261) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 10:43 AM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested do you support abortion in cases of rape?
I don't. It seems inconsistent to me: either a fetus is aperson or it's not, can't have it both ways. |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 10:50 AM Author: Dull Exhilarant Death Wish As a dude I try to not have any strong opinion concerning the legal status of abortion - this makes for bad dinner conversation. Also, I understand that there are plenty of circumstances one could think of that would compel a reasonable person to have an abortion (age, rape, mental retardation, etc.).
However, I would never have one under any circumstance. |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 10:52 AM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested You should have a strong opinion, or else these bitches are going to kill anything they can get away with. Would you stand up to a woman that wanted to abort your baby, or would you back down and say it was her choice?
A life is still a life, regardless of rape or retardation. Surely you see the inconsistency in your stance. |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 10:58 AM Author: Dull Exhilarant Death Wish It's a cold world out there, and innocent people get killed all the time (i.e. war, wrongly accused, unsafe workplaces, etc.) I usually find moral relativism to be intellectually dishonest, but on abortion I go right there. Again, I don't like it, but it's a cold world out there and life is probably better with some form of legalized abortion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12260402) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 11:00 AM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested Explain your exact course of action if your gf told you she wanted to abort your beautiful unborn baby for NOTHING BUT CONVENIENCE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12260413) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 11:01 AM Author: Mint party of the first part be thankful i didn't have to pay half and wish her well (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12260418) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 11:02 AM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested you're just as disgusting as fat chick, then
may you burn in hell |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 11:03 AM Author: Mint party of the first part to be fair,
i did not fuck my professor for an A, nor am I dating a geriatric. |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 11:04 AM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested mere details compared to a willingness to abort babies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12260435) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 11:22 AM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested you really need to take a cue from GiantAlligator, you sick, disgusting freak (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#12260544) |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 11:07 AM Author: Dull Exhilarant Death Wish 1) I wouldn't seriously date a woman who would do this.
2) If this was a woman who I was casually having sex with, then wouldn't you agree that it is partially my fault for sleeping with skanks? Don't you think this is a risk that you take if you choose to sleep with people you don't know well?
3) Theoretically, things go wrong and it happens. Plan A would be to go "Fools Rush In" and marry the girl. Plan B would to do my best to convince her not to have it (i.e. abortion) by any means necessary, including paying her money and child support and the rest. If none of these things work, after the abortion I would work tirelessly to ruin this woman's life in the most vindictive way possible. |
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Date: July 16th, 2009 11:14 AM Author: black insanely creepy multi-billionaire idea he suggested paragraph 3 is the credited answer.
about #1, though, there needs to be a foolproof way to tell who these bitches are. |
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Date: July 15th, 2010 11:04 PM Author: Orange Range Associate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#15519241) |
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Date: July 15th, 2010 11:22 PM Author: Frum therapy corner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1040772&forum_id=2#15519448) |