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Date: July 26th, 2009 2:53 AM Author: misunderstood property
flame
le chic is not capable of being racist or being a stuck up cunt because she is a beautiful young woman both inside and out
stfu EARRRRLLL
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350112) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:03 AM Author: gold exhilarant garrison
It's not Catholic looking at all
At least not to me, a Catholic
Looks extremely Lutheran
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350193) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:05 AM Author: gold exhilarant garrison
depends
two Catholics--there is a Nuptial Mass, that can take a while
one Catholic, one Christian--5 minute ceremony is all that's required
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350197) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:18 AM Author: buck-toothed saffron pozpig antidepressant drug
I disagree that praying for someone to "pray" or intercede for you is not worshipping. Whatever.
But catholics (and the church) routinely deify these saints--let us act like the Virgin Mary, Mother Theresa, etc.
Offering sacrifices=pay $$$ for St. XXXX's festival., donate in St. XXXX's name for XXXX cause
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350322) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:03 AM Author: gold exhilarant garrison
It doesn't look like a catholic church at all
I don't see a Crucifix. I don't see any statues, I don't see icons, I don't see any stations of the cross. Look at the cross. There is no corpus.
It's extremely plain in style plus it's Minnesota. Dollars to donuts, it's Lutheran.
What made you think this was a Catholic church?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350185) |
Date: July 26th, 2009 2:57 AM Author: gold exhilarant garrison
How embarrassing for them
although I don't see this as a ghetto or poor thing
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350141) |
Date: July 26th, 2009 3:01 AM Author: Zombie-like church building brethren
if you have anything negative to say about this video you are a joyless piece of shit.
i hope this does help.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350174) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:16 AM Author: misunderstood property
"Maybe this was the rare exception"
hth?
my g-parents would not be very amused if I did this at my wedding, and they are far from being joyless old meanspirited republican fucks or something
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350305) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:18 AM Author: misunderstood property
are you a fucking idiot?
OLD PEOPLE LOVE TO SEE THEIR GRANDCHILDREN/GREAT GRANDCHILDREN/GRAND NEPHEWS/GRAND NIECES/ETC ETC get married.
You must seriously, honest to god be a fucking Aspbergers case not to know that. Everyone who knows anything about IRL and The Real World knows who and what weddings are for: the bride and her mom, but most importantly A TON OF OLD PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES.
And by and large, old people like tradition and are set in their ways and don't like to see pop-locking going on during a "sacred", once-in-a-lifetime (hopefully) proceeding. This is not rocket science genius, pointing out that the old people in this particular video seemed into it doesn't really refute that very well.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350319) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:31 AM Author: Cracking parlour water buffalo
"I'm dumb and you're smart."
Yes.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350462)
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:32 AM Author: misunderstood property
Thanks for answering the question faggot.
I wonder why you declined?
(yfwgi)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350470) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:43 AM Author: misunderstood property
weddings are for olds: not up for argument.
olds are, by and large, boring and traditionalist: you concede.
QED, the wedding ceremony should be kept boring and traditionalist for the olds most of the time.
The problem appears not to lie in my logic, but in your fucking faggotry my good man.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350539) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:35 AM Author: Zombie-like church building brethren
Not everyone had your strict Asian upbringing.
People in Minnesota are pretty fucking cool, they voted Jesse Ventura for governor.
Perhaps all the old people you've seen are joyless and dull, but some actually have great senses of humor and enjoy life.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350486) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:21 AM Author: misunderstood property
Yeah all white people are like "fuck what grandma thinks, old fucking biddy."
Or, you know, some white people actually love their family and appreciate that the ceremony = for the olds, the reception = for the youngs, and act accordingly.
You sound like a dumb fuck.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350346) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:27 AM Author: misunderstood property
yeah, and very smart and educated and non-violent and sophisticated black people exist.
...yet you niggerthread on the internet and regularly stereotype African Americans.
I guess we all have our flaws.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350407) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:31 AM Author: Zombie-like church building brethren
Aah, so you have nothing more to say so you decide you want to attack me? Ding faggot, I am flawless.
I have been a huge proponent of Chris Rock's "Black People vs. Niggers" routine. I believe that niggerism, which is a mentality of willful ignorance, is a social disease.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7b2oCYgfik
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350460)
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:20 AM Author: Cracking parlour water buffalo
"especially the older ones who want to see their beloved youngsters get hitched and pop a few out already so they can die in peace"
Then why don't they pay for it?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350340)
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:07 AM Author: gold exhilarant garrison
I would never get married that way.
Tradition has its place; this is embarrassing. Not everyone has to get married in morning dress, but please
Call me old fashioned, but crip walking in a church turns my stomach.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350217) |
Date: July 26th, 2009 3:13 AM Author: laughsome irate address
This thread is a classic example of XOers having their head too far up their ass.
The reason this video is such a huge sensation and this couple appeared on the Today Show: America fucking loved it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350274)
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:26 AM Author: Twisted 180 Giraffe
They are clearly middle class and educated?
I missed the part where they flashed their University of Minnesota diplomas and their tax returns.
"if blacks did it, there would be people screaming, it would be in a minimall baptist church, and it would be shot in a camera phone with mumbled narration from cousin rary-ray, fresh out the pen."
Right. You're racist. Thanks.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350404) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:29 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
"I missed the part where they flashed their University of Minnesota diplomas and their tax returns."
lol, the black guy wants to see some ID. it's pretty weird though how sometimes through obvious social signaling and other indicators that you can tell if somebody is poor, middle class, or wealthy without even needing to see some paper credentials. it happens, every once in a while at least.
"Right. You're racist. Thanks."
lulz, you're too easy dipshit.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350431) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:43 AM Author: Twisted 180 Giraffe
let me walk you through this, tard. You see nothing in the video but white people acting like clowns on their wedding day. That, in and of itself, is a severe departure from white middle class norms. Also, you see extremely cheap looking clothing. Her dress looks like it was second hand. The bridesmaids dresses look very cheap as well. The groom is wearing a 3 dollar outfit. His friends' suits were probably half that.
The church looked run-down. There was minimal decoration. It looked sad.
Yet, you somehow get middle class and educated. Not sure where you pull that from. Also, you're a bigot for allowing white middle class and educated folk to have a wedding of this nature, but if they were black, they must be ghetto trash.
You're clearly flame, but you're stupid flame. Get lost; you got your ass rhetorically kicked. Respond with more racist drivel.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350541) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:47 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
okay le chic, i will substantively respond to every point you think you're making in that post if you answer the question i originally asked instead of spending 600 words dodging it:
"question: you see a black wedding ceremony - can you make some very reasonable inference about the economic standing of the majority of those in attendance base on what you see?"
answer that, and i'll happily rebut everything you said.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350562) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:53 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
"You can't rebut a thing."
yes i can, very easily, actually.
"Moreover, you don't dictate conversation to me."
lol le chic, are you afraid to answer the question or what?
"Last, your question is irrelevant to your racist post supra. Answer your own fucking question, bigot."
the question has nothing to do with race - it's about the simple ability to make class observations (which, by the way, you said i couldn't possibly make from the video though you proceeded to do the same exactly one post later) based on obvious signals and cues. i stipulated a black wedding since i assume it's what you're most experienced with, but you can make it anybody's wedding if you like.
go on, answer the question and i'll happily rebut. why are you afraid?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350602) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:58 AM Author: Twisted 180 Giraffe
"yes i can, very easily, actually."
No, you can't.
"lol le chic, are you afraid to answer the question or what?"
Not le chic.
"the question has nothing to do with race - it's about the simple ability to make class observations (which, by the way, you said i couldn't possibly make from the video though you proceeded to do the same exactly one post later) based on obvious signals and cues. i stipulated a black wedding since i assume it's what you're most experienced with, but you can make it anybody's wedding if you like."
I was knocking down your position that they were "obviously educated and middle class." I have no clue; but there was much in that video to suggest that they were poor. Unless there is something obvious, like a cheap ass wedding look, you can't tell based on such scant evidence.
"go on, answer the question and i'll happily rebut. why are you afraid?"
Answer your own fucking question. I don't cooperate with posters who say racist shit in one post, and then make a black joke about ID. So, yah, answer your own fucking question.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350623) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:06 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
LMFAO - i see you took the liberty of editing out your comment to the effect of, "it's impossible for you to make any judgments about their class from that video."
how low can you go, le chic? jesus, i actually chortled out loud when i saw that.
"No, you can't."
sure i can, i'll do it right after i finish this post since you went back and edit, and yet are still inexplicably dodging my simple question in a most pathetic fashion.
"I have no clue"
really? because you labeled them ghetto poors and went on to offer your observations as to why this is the case.
"but there was much in that video to suggest that they were poor. Unless there is something obvious, like a cheap ass wedding look, you can't tell based on such scant evidence."
lulz, i'll just address this by rebutting your joke of a post. nice to see you already slowly backpedaling from your earlier stance though.
"Answer your own fucking question. I don't cooperate with posters who say racist shit in one post, and then make a black joke about ID. So, yah, answer your own fucking question."
completely pathetic - how many excuses will you make to dodge this? you can interact with a clear brutal and unrelenting racist such as myself this long, but answering a simple, simple question is beyond the pale? le chic, how can we make progress as a nation unless we can work together, especially on the internet?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350664)
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:13 AM Author: Twisted 180 Giraffe
"LMFAO - i see you took the liberty of editing out your comment to the effect of, "it's impossible for you to make any judgments about their class from that video."
how low can you go, le chic? jesus, i actually chortled out loud when i saw that."
I never passed judgment on their socio economic status.
"really? because you labeled them ghetto poors and went on to offer your observations as to why this is the case."
You're clearly stupid. I called them "ghetto poors" not because I thought they were actually ghetto and poor, but because if the same video was posted, but the people in the video were black, they would have been described as "ghetto poors".
"lulz, i'll just address this by rebutting your joke of a post. nice to see you already slowly backpedaling from your earlier stance though."
What backpeddling?
"completely pathetic - how many excuses will you make to dodge this? you can interact with a clear brutal and unrelenting racist such as myself this long, but answering a simple, simple question is beyond the pale? le chic, how can we make progress as a nation unless we can work together, especially on the internet?"
I'll talk to a racist for a little while, but stupid people get ignored. You have shown yourself to be completely dumb, so I don't think you'll be getting much attention after this.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350692) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:17 AM Author: Zombie-like church building brethren
ghetto poors is redundant. obviously someone described as ghetto also qualifies as a poor.
if it was black people who indeed looked ghetto, then they would have been described as ghetto blacks.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350709)
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:21 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
so rather than actually responding to your repeated pwnings you're just going to cry racism after every post? pretty pathetic.
and also: http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050523&mc=3&forum_id=2#12350679
might want to get some of your sock-puppet accounts in there to dispute the results that are shaping up.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350723) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:58 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
"You didn't pwn me. I don't get pwn3d."
lmao, le chic would never say a thing like that?
"It's been made clear that you couldn't back up your statement that they were clearly educated and middle class."
the video says they met at college you idiot. they're white people in minnesota with college educations - without even seeing the video we can assume there's about a 90% likelihood that they're middle class. the video just confirms it.
"Your own thread shows that most people were in doubt"
how does almost everybody agreeing that they're educated and not "ghetto poors" in any way suggest doubt?
"I described a competing narrative to explain their SES"
you suggested that the church was not 'aesthetically pleasing' and then refused to say why this was the case. that's not a competing narrative - that's a stupid person flailing for words.
"You were wrong. Pwn3d!"
you're embarrassing yourself worse than usual le chic, not that i don't enjoy the effort.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350870)
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Date: July 26th, 2009 5:03 AM Author: Twisted 180 Giraffe
"the video says they met at college you idiot. they're white people in minnesota with college educations - without even seeing the video we can assume there's about a 90% likelihood that they're middle class. the video just confirms it."
Dude, you're stupid. You said there was something in the video to state that they were "clearly" educated and middle class. What they say in an interview that is unrelated to the 5 minute clip is irrelevant, stupid.
"how does almost everybody agreeing that they're educated and not "ghetto poors" in any way suggest doubt?"
Stupid. We weren't arguing if they were "ghetto poors". stupid. We were arguing if they were "clearly educated and middle class" stupid. Do you have proof of that? You still haven't given any.
"you suggested that the church was not 'aesthetically pleasing' and then refused to say why this was the case. that's not a competing narrative - that's a stupid person flailing for words."
Dude, I gave a long list which you quoted before, stupid. Now I said nothing else, stupid? Nice try, stupid.
"you're embarrassing yourself worse than usual le chic, not that i don't enjoy the effort."
You enjoy getting ripped to shreds? You should as it happens often I bet. Pwn3d!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350886) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 5:25 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
how did you manage to actually escape law school?
i said it's clear - clear to me - what they are.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350942)
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Date: July 26th, 2009 5:33 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
how is that a change of statement - it's exactly what i said in the post.
"take it like a man. im sure you take it often."
as an opponent of racism, don't you think it's bad idea to publicize the fact that because of their deeply backwards cultural leanings and religiously bigoted nature, american blacks tend to be deeply homophobic? it's an issue that has a very negative impact on your community - for shame!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350961) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 5:35 AM Author: Twisted 180 Giraffe
There's nothing wrong with being gay. There is something wrong with getting pwn3d though. You're my slave.
You changed your statement. That much is "clear" LMAO. Before you said it was "clearly" meaning to anyone. If this was a personal thing why not just say its clear to me in the begining? cause thats not what you meant.
pwn3d!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350969) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 5:49 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
"There's nothing wrong with being gay"
then why do you use it as an insult, le chic? we always knew you were bigoted, but usually you're a little less obvious about things.
"There is something wrong with getting pwn3d though. You're my slave."
more classic le chic. you're like a little kid.
"You changed your statement. That much is "clear" LMAO"
are you actually attempting to argue that there's a substantive rhetorical difference between 'clear' and 'clearly?' this is how low you'll sink to pretend you didn't make an ass of yourself here? wow.
"If this was a personal thing why not just say its clear to me in the begining? cause thats not what you meant."
how can you really know what my intention was from my post? how can you be sure? i am arguing that you can't possibly know that simply from what i wrote. pwn pwn pwn, you are my slave, etc.
see how you're devolving further and further into self-parody here? well, probably you don't, but trust me, it's happening.
"pwn3d!"
one more time for good measure eh? do you actually feel better when you type that in? like a coping mechanism?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350997)
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Date: July 26th, 2009 5:22 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
for the sake of argument, le chic, what is the evidence that they're poor and uneducated?
we can safely assume they're not wealthy (i mean, what with that rundown church that doesn't even have decorations!), so they're either middle class or poor. we already know they're educated, and so i'll say that the dress of the guests, the fact that most college-educated white people from the st. paul aren't "poors," the fact they enjoy a hipster sensibility, and the fact that their families paid for a decently-sized church wedding are all indicators that we're not dealing with white trash.
i'd also note that virtually everybody in that thread agree with me.
if they're not middle class and i'm wrong - then what are the obvious signals that they're poor? they're one or the other, so please make the case that these people are poor.
we know that you were disappointed that there we no 'decorations' in the church, but do you have anything else to point to? disprove that they're middle-class and educated kids.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350938) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 5:27 AM Author: Twisted 180 Giraffe
"i'd also note that virtually everybody in that thread agree with me."
No they didn't. You said clearly. I said they were not clearly. Most people in that said they were not clearly educated and middle class. I never said what their socio economic status was. You did.
"we know that you were disappointed that there we no 'decorations' in the church, but do you have anything else to point to? disprove that they're middle-class and educated kids.
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Don't try to move the goal posts. It's clear that you're a beaten man. You got pwn3d. I know it hurts. But I never said what they were. I honestly don't care. You said they were clearly educated and middle class. Your own thread proves my point that there was enough doubt. You were wrong. You got pwn3d. I pwn people often.
Also, I'm not le chic.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350952) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 5:45 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
"No they didn't."
yes, they did. they said yes or probably in almost every case, meaning they see the same obvious social indicators.
"I said they were not clearly"
you also argued that there was good evidence that they're poor at several points. people in the thread agreed that observable evidence indicates they're not poor, but what's your take? they're poor or middle class - which is it? why do you keep dodging this?
"Don't try to move the goal posts."
why are you dodging my question? that has nothing to do with goalposts. why are you evasive every time i ask you to answer a simple a question?
*awaits pathetic excuse about interacting with racists followed by another 500 word post in which you interact with an accused racist*
"It's clear that you're a beaten man. You got pwn3d. I know it hurts"
saying as such doesn't make it so, but we've established by way of example that you think like a child, so wish away.
"But I never said what they were. I honestly don't care"
now you are in fact moving the uprights, again. you're arguing against my assertion, but attempting to claim some point of victory over having not stated their class explicitly. the funny thing is, you did do this by proxy, you're just too dumb to understand it. you made the argument that there are signs of poorness - if they're not middle class, they're poor - and you're dumb.
"You said they were clearly educated and middle class"
i did indeed. most everybody else agreed with me.
"Your own thread proves my point that there was enough doubt"
in what way does one guy asking where they're from indicate any consensus of doubt?
"You were wrong"
my assertion that they were educated was directly proven correct - the rest is a 99% likelihood - they could be wealthy and just modest, so i leave that 1% possibility.
"You got pwn3d. I pwn people often."
this thread has been you performing a clinic in how not to pwn.
"Also, I'm not le chic."
yeah, uh, le chic, word to the wise - the childish need to proclaim how hard you're pwning after every post doesn't exactly help make your megaposting less obvious.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350990) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 2:08 PM Author: Twisted 180 Giraffe
"yes, they did. they said yes or probably in almost every case, meaning they see the same obvious social indicators."
You said they were clearly educated and middle class. The people in your thread said "probably." They expressed doubt. You didn't. I was arguing there was nothing in the video that necessarily meant they were educated and middle class. The people sided with me.
"you also argued that there was good evidence that they're poor at several points. people in the thread agreed that observable evidence indicates they're not poor, but what's your take? they're poor or middle class - which is it? why do you keep dodging this?"
Stupid, do you still not see the argument we were having. It's like you don't even know what the point of this was. You said they were "clearly middle class and educated." I made the argument so as to offer a plausible scenario that they weren't, stupid. This "counter narrative" could put doubt in people's head. After seeing the video, it would make them say they were not clearly educated but something less than that; they'd use a word expressing doubt, stupid. Which the people in this thread did, stupid.
"i did indeed. most everybody else agreed with me."
THE PEOPLE EXPRESSED DOUBT WHICH IS INCONGRUOUS WITH CLEARLY, STUPID!!!!!! lmao I'll repeat. THE PEOPLE EXPRESSED DOUBT WHICH IS INCONGRUOUS WITH CLEARLY, STUPID!!!!!!
"in what way does one guy asking where they're from indicate any consensus of doubt?"
that was meant to be a link to the entire thread.
PWN3D AGAIN!!!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12352458) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:31 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
"I never passed judgment on their socio economic status."
classic. let's examine your words, yet again:
"You see nothing in the video but white people acting like clowns on their wedding day. That, in and of itself, is a severe departure from white middle class norms. Also, you see extremely cheap looking clothing. Her dress looks like it was second hand. The bridesmaids dresses look very cheap as well. The groom is wearing a 3 dollar outfit. His friends' suits were probably half that. The church looked run-down. There was minimal decoration. It looked sad."
so basically, you argue that they're having a cheap wedding because, in your estimation, the clothes and church look shabby and cheap.
"Yet, you somehow get middle class and educated"
so, since we agree they're probably not especially wealthy, we believe they're either lower class poors, or regular middle class and educated, which i assert. your above comment clearly indicates that you think its unreasonable to believe they're middle class, meaning you actually do think they're a bunch of poors carrying on. obviously you wouldn't have been as adamant about this point had you known that they met in college when you made the post, but you've already self-pwned enough that i don't need to rub it in.
"I called them "ghetto poors" not because I thought they were actually ghetto and poor, but because if the same video was posted, but the people in the video were black, they would have been described as "ghetto poors"."
funny that you state this after making an argument that they are in fact poor.
and as to the primary point, we would not have assumed they were poor from the dancing - that would have been laughed at as typical black hijinks. we would have assumed they were poor because they were black. the majority of black people in the US are poor - it's a very reasonable assumption.
"What backpeddling?"
the gentle thudding footfall of you creeping away from your angry assertion that i couldn't possibly make any accurate appraisal of their social class from the video - which you subsequently edited.
"I'll talk to a racist for a little while, but stupid people get ignored. You have shown yourself to be completely dumb, so I don't think you'll be getting much attention after this."
you only fuel racist leanings when you use it as an excuse to dodge the points that suit you. intellectually lazy and cowardly - doesn't say much for you le chic.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350768)
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:50 AM Author: Twisted 180 Giraffe
"so basically, you argue that they're having a cheap wedding because, in your estimation, the clothes and church look shabby and cheap."
Oh god, you're stupid. I said their wedding looked cheap. That could very well lead one to conclude that they might be poor. Yet, you stated conclusively that they were both educated and middle class. I never said that they were poor. I was arguing against your conclusory statement that you could ascertain their SES just from 5 minutes of dancing in a raggedy ass church.
I would respond point by point to your post, but its filled with poor reasoning skills similar to the one above. I'm too tired for this.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350832) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 5:03 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
"I said their wedding looked cheap"
lulz - your exact comment was that the wedding party's clothing looked cheap and informal and that the church was "rundown." you have repeatedly stated that there is obvious evidence that they're poor, yet all you can come up with is you don't think their clothes looked right and some vague notion that the church wasn't up to snuff.
"Yet, you stated conclusively that they were both educated and middle class"
the bride and groom are educated - this is confirmed. middle class is a feature of a large church wedding, white people in the midwest, and the fact that they met at college.
"I was arguing against your conclusory statement that you could ascertain their SES just from 5 minutes of dancing in a raggedy ass church."
yet in nearly every post you have argued that you can somehow see obvious indicators that they're "ghetto poors." your lack of self-awareness is stunning, truly stunning.
"I would respond point by point to your post, but its filled with poor reasoning skills similar to the one above. I'm too tired for this."
objective reality translation: "i'm getting pwned and i don't know what to say, so i'll just excuse myself from further humiliation by saying i'm too tired."
thanks le chic - entertaining, as always, when you apply your tiny brain to an argument.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350885) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 5:04 AM Author: Twisted 180 Giraffe
"yet in nearly every post you have argued that you can somehow see obvious indicators that they're "ghetto poors." your lack of self-awareness is stunning, truly stunning."
Where did I argue that they were ghetto poors. SHow me stupid.
Dude, you're getting your arguments conflated. You're making up arguments when they were never proffered. You're getting flustered because you're being anally raped.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350891) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 5:16 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
Date: July 26th, 2009 4:33 AM
Author: XOXO Racism Issue Spotter (You are now blessed)
There was plenty of evidence to suggest they were ghetto poors.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350774)
Date: July 26th, 2009 3:43 AM
Author: XOXO Racism Issue Spotter (You are now blessed)
That, in and of itself, is a severe departure from white middle class norms. Also, you see extremely cheap looking clothing. Her dress looks like it was second hand. The bridesmaids dresses look very cheap as well. The groom is wearing a 3 dollar outfit. His friends' suits were probably half that.
The church looked run-down. There was minimal decoration. It looked sad.
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:43 AM
Author: XOXO Racism Issue Spotter (You are now blessed)
let me walk you through this, tard. You see nothing in the video but white people acting like clowns on their wedding day. That, in and of itself, is a severe departure from white middle class norms. Also, you see extremely cheap looking clothing. Her dress looks like it was second hand. The bridesmaids dresses look very cheap as well. The groom is wearing a 3 dollar outfit. His friends' suits were probably half that.
The church looked run-down. There was minimal decoration. It looked sad.
Yet, you somehow get middle class and educated.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350541)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350920)
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Date: July 26th, 2009 5:20 AM Author: Twisted 180 Giraffe
Yes, stupid. The whole point of all of my posts, was to show your stupid stupidity stupid ass stupid self, that you could not say that they "clearly were educated and middle class." One could, as I did, point out stuff which would put doubt in a person's head as to the SES of the wedding party.
Guess what -- other people had doubt too. Lucky for me, someone created a thread. Here it is: http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050523&mc=13&forum_id=2"#12350820
therein, many people say they can't clearly determine the education and income levels of the wedding participants. Lucky ME! I win!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350931) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 5:31 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
"was to show your stupid stupidity stupid ass stupid self"
le chic, did you forget that you're attempting to disguise the fact that you're a female when you use this moniker?
"that you could not say that they "clearly were educated and middle class"
but clearly, they are. we know they're educated. there are obvious signals that they're middle class. any reasonable person agrees with this. you're making an argument bordering on the philosophical that some things can never truly be known based on observable evidence.
here's a thought - i see a bird get sucked into a jet engine during a plane's takeoff. now, i didn't see the bird come out the other end nor did i see what happened in the jet engine - do i really know that the bird died in there? no, i guess i can't say with 100% heisenberg-proof certainty that it died. but i can be pretty fucking certain based on all common sense and reasonable experience.
"Guess what -- other people had doubt too. Lucky for me, someone created a thread. Here it is: http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050523&mc=13&forum_id=2"#12350820"
lulz, so one guy asked what part of minnesota they were from, and rowan noted that just because a wedding was in st. paul doesn't mean they're all from saint paul. your level of desperation here is actually kind of satisfying to me.
"therein, many people say they can't clearly determine the education and income levels of the wedding participants. Lucky ME! I win!"
uh, no. they all say the same thing - probably. why? because they're seeing the same shit i am.
you lose, again.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350958) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 5:33 AM Author: Twisted 180 Giraffe
"but clearly, they are. we know they're educated. there are obvious signals that they're middle class. any reasonable person agrees with this. you're making an argument bordering on the philosophical that some things can never truly be known based on observable evidence."
You were wrong, dumbass. Your own thread shows there was doubt.
"uh, no. they all say the same thing - probably. why? because they're seeing the same shit i am."
LMAO. I love the world you live in where probably=clearly. Are there unicorns there and flying penises? I think thats why you stay there so often.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350963) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 6:06 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
"You were wrong, dumbass. Your own thread shows there was doubt."
no, in fact they all said i was probably correct.
"LMAO. I love the world you live in where probably=clearly. Are there unicorns there and flying penises? I think thats why you stay there so often"
here is an interesting example of le chic simultaneously displaying a very weak conceptual command of words (perhaps conflating them?) and further homophobia. colorful imagery though.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12351020) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:18 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
"You see nothing in the video but white people acting like clowns on their wedding day."
This is a hilarious way to open your statement, since you go on to observe quite a bit more than that and render judgment based on these observations. Apparently you have the ability to see what other can't. Impressive.
"That, in and of itself, is a severe departure from white middle class norms."
Hmm - so a departure from standard social norms. Well shit, such a thing has never been heard of, particularly not in educated white society. I suppose that's why non-poor white people never, ever have non-traditional weddings of any sort. I hadn't ever considered this potent piece of information.
"Also, you see extremely cheap looking clothing. Her dress looks like it was second hand. The bridesmaids dresses look very cheap as well. The groom is wearing a 3 dollar outfit. His friends' suits were probably half that."
They're hipsters you raving moron. Some of them are wearing aviators too - are they all pilots and state troopers? The look is intentional. Take a look at the people sitting in the pews if you want an indication of the actual social class of the wedding's participants.
"The church looked run-down. There was minimal decoration. It looked sad."
LOL - what evidence did you see that the church was "run-down?" Go ahead, show me some specifics le chic. How exactly was this place visibly dilapidated?
It's very standard Methodist/Lutheran Minnesota church, nothing more, nothing less, and the VAST majority of people attend those churches are nice middle class white folks with public college educations and wholesome midwestern lifestyles.
And decorations? This is white a wedding in Minnesota Le Chic - they don't put streamers up in the fucking church.
"Yet, you somehow get middle class and educated. Not sure where you pull that from."
There is vastly more evidence to suggest this than "ghetto poors."
"Also, you're a bigot for allowing white middle class and educated folk to have a wedding of this nature, but if they were black, they must be ghetto trash."
Lulz, allowing? These are regular middle class white people thumbing their noses at tradition and having fun with it - I do think it's goofy, and I'd say the same for blacks. The point of the matter is that nobody would be that surprised to see black people doing this, but it's remarkable that white's did it. That's not exactly racist as the assumption is made by your OP.
"You're clearly flame, but you're stupid flame. Get lost; you got your ass rhetorically kicked. Respond with more racist drivel."
ahh le chic - you try so hard, and succeed so rarely.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350714) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:33 AM Author: Twisted 180 Giraffe
"This is a hilarious way to open your statement, since you go on to observe quite a bit more than that and render judgment based on these observations. Apparently you have the ability to see what other can't. Impressive."
The statement was right. You saw nothing in that video to conclusively say their socioeconomic status and their education level. If you said that you thought they were educated and middle class, that's another thing. But you had no proof.
"Hmm - so a departure from standard social norms. Well shit, such a thing has never been heard of, particularly not in educated white society. I suppose that's why non-poor white people never, ever have non-traditional weddings of any sort. I hadn't ever considered this potent piece of information."
You're stupid. People dancing to Chris Brown at a wedding is pretty buffoonish. Middle class folk don't typically act like buffoons at their weddings. Way to conflate the two.
"They're hipsters you raving moron. Some of them are wearing aviators too - are they all pilots and state troopers? The look is intentional. Take a look at the people sitting in the pews if you want an indication of the actual social class of the wedding's participants."
Who the fuck cares if they are hipsters? The aviators point is moronic as is looking to the people in the pews. We were talking about the wedding party moron.
"It's very standard Methodist/Lutheran Minnesota church, nothing more, nothing less, and the VAST majority of people attend those churches are nice middle class white folks with public college educations and wholesome midwestern lifestyles."
That is a very cheap looking church; a middle class family would have opted for a more aesthetically pleasing place to have their ceremony.
"And decorations? This is white a wedding in Minnesota Le Chic - they don't put streamers up in the fucking church"
I'm glad you know what white folk in Minnesota do at their weddings.
"There is vastly more evidence to suggest this than "ghetto poors.""
There was plenty of evidence to suggest they were ghetto poors.
"Lulz, allowing? These are regular middle class white people thumbing their noses at tradition and having fun with it - I do think it's goofy, and I'd say the same for blacks. The point of the matter is that nobody would be that surprised to see black people doing this, but it's remarkable that white's did it. That's not exactly racist as the assumption is made by your OP."
Re-read your post your racist prick. Ray-ray out of jail. camera phones, it was nothing but racist drivel.
"ahh le chic - you try so hard, and succeed so rarely. "
Fucking pwn3d.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350774)
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:53 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
"The statement was right. You saw nothing in that video to conclusively say their socioeconomic status and their education level. If you said that you thought they were educated and middle class, that's another thing. But you had no proof."
the statement was hilariously contradictory with your previous comments, dummy. and i saw plenty to suggest that, and it was more or less confirmed by the video link. i can't 100% conclusively evaluate everything from a video, but i can be pretty damn sure.
i ask you again (and you'll dodge again): if you see wedding footage of a black wedding, can you usually make some reasonably certain assumptions about class level? particularly between "poor/ghetto" and standard middle class?
"You're stupid. People dancing to Chris Brown at a wedding is pretty buffoonish. Middle class folk don't typically act like buffoons at their weddings."
the point is to be ironic and irreverent - and, once again, you're arguing that they're not middle class after repeatedly asserting that there is no way to tell what their class is one way or the other. jesus.
"Who the fuck cares if they are hipsters? The aviators point is moronic as is looking to the people in the pews. We were talking about the wedding party moron."
1. the fact they're hipsters explains the style of their clothing, stupid
2. the aviators are further evidence that they're not taking it seriously and having fun, as hipsters are wont to do, stupid
3. the people in the pews are important because their dress and style is very indicative of social class, more so than the wedding party, stupid
"That is a very cheap looking church; a middle class family would have opted for a more aesthetically pleasing place to have their ceremony."
EXPLAIN why its cheap looking. it looks exactly like a million other suburban lutheran churches all over the midwest. it's probably one of their family churches. are you actually suggesting that people only getting married in churches because they're aesthetically pleasing? lol, starting to think you're just flame because that too dumb to be credible.
but in the event that you're not, offer specifics about why that church is so egregiously rundown and gross looking.
"I'm glad you know what white folk in Minnesota do at their weddings."
as a white person from the midwest, i do indeed claim some authority of experience here.
"There was plenty of evidence to suggest they were ghetto poors."
no, there really wansn't. guess what - everybody agrees with me: http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050523&mc=13&forum_id=2
"Re-read your post your racist prick. Ray-ray out of jail. camera phones, it was nothing but racist drivel."
racist drivel meant to bait your impossibly stupid ass, and it worked like a fucking charm. lol at your life.
"Fucking pwn3d."
that's really all you could come up with le chic? don't get me wrong, you're really really stupid, but normally you make some kind of sassy remark that trumpets your own perceived superiority. again, just so lazy on your part.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350849) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:59 AM Author: Twisted 180 Giraffe
"the statement was hilariously contradictory with your previous comments, dummy. and i saw plenty to suggest that, and it was more or less confirmed by the video link. i can't 100% conclusively evaluate everything from a video, but i can be pretty damn sure."
No they weren't. I never said what they were. I was knocking down your statement that they were "clearly middle class and educated." You have yet to supply proof of that.
Now you're not 100% sure. You're clearly backpeddling here now that you've been caught flatfooted and obviously wrong.
"1. the fact they're hipsters explains the style of their clothing, stupid
2. the aviators are further evidence that they're not taking it seriously and having fun, as hipsters are wont to do, stupid
3. the people in the pews are important because their dress and style is very indicative of social class, more so than the wedding party, stupid"
They weren't clearly hipsters, stupid.
There was debate below as to whether they were, stupid.
The people in the pews are likely family, stupid.
Family members are likely to be significantly better off than young kids who are getting married, stupid.
"no, there really wansn't. guess what - everybody agrees with me: http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050523&mc=13&forum_id=2"
No, stupid. This doesn't back up your post. You said "clerly." As in not in doubt. The people in your thread express doubt, stupid.
"racist drivel meant to bait your impossibly stupid ass, and it worked like a fucking charm. lol at your life."
Dude, you were the one baited. This entire thread was bait. You fell for it, stupid. lol at your stupid life. Stupid.
"that's really all you could come up with le chic? don't get me wrong, you're really really stupid, but normally you make some kind of sassy remark that trumpets your own perceived superiority. again, just so lazy on your part."
50 posts later, you still can't support your "clearly" charge. stupid.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350875) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 5:59 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
"No they weren't. I never said what they were. I was knocking down your statement that they were "clearly middle class and educated." You have yet to supply proof of that.
Now you're not 100% sure. You're clearly backpeddling here now that you've been caught flatfooted and obviously wrong."
backpedaling from what? i still say they're CLEARLY middle class and educated. a bunch of people openly agreed with me. their status as educated is 100% confirmed. anything else?
"They weren't clearly hipsters, stupid."
yes, they clearly were, and again multiple people agree with this. it was also, again, even more thoroughly confirmed by the second video.
"There was debate below as to whether they were, stupid."
yes, between me and rowan, and she agreed that they were hipsters. nice one!
"The people in the pews are likely family, stupid."
oh, right, i forgot, family is a very poor indicator of social class and origin. they would be a terrible reference point for someone's background, as would the other people attending their wedding. you really got me there. (note that the previous statement assumes you understand sarcasm, which is somewhat in doubt at the moment).
"No, stupid. This doesn't back up your post. You said "clerly." As in not in doubt. The people in your thread express doubt, stupid."
lulz - they expressed no doubt as to education, and almost universally said 'probably' as to their income level. you know, they'd say that they probably won't get hit by a bus tomorrow as well. they're pretty fucking sure that won't happen, but they can't be certain. your childish insistence that any fraction of doubt is the same as sever doubt is essentially all you have there, and it's a risible argument.
"Dude, you were the one baited. This entire thread was bait. You fell for it, stupid. lol at your stupid life. Stupid."
you really sound "classy" when you go off on these chirping insult laden rants, le chic. the thread was meant to make some point about racism. the only thing it demonstrated was your abject lack of intelligence.
"50 posts later, you still can't support your "clearly" charge. stupid."
lulz, look at how angry you are, 50 posts later. it's supported - it's clear to me and others. the thread demonstrated that. you're arguing due your trademark insanity right now, not any kind of concrete point. i'm happy to keep watching you flame out.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12351009) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 2:17 PM Author: Twisted 180 Giraffe
"backpedaling from what? i still say they're CLEARLY middle class and educated. a bunch of people openly agreed with me. their status as educated is 100% confirmed. anything else?"
Nothing in the four corners of the video proved that they were middle class and educated. The people in your thread expressed doubt, when you had none. In a argument where we debating if there should have been doubt, I win. You lose.
"yes, they clearly were, and again multiple people agree with this. it was also, again, even more thoroughly confirmed by the second video."
No they weren't. There was debate about whether they were hipsters below. So that isn't "clear." People don't have debates about clear things. How many times have people discussed if Micheal Jordan was black?
"oh, right, i forgot, family is a very poor indicator of social class and origin. they would be a terrible reference point for someone's background, as would the other people attending their wedding. you really got me there. (note that the previous statement assumes you understand sarcasm, which is somewhat in doubt at the moment)."
Dude, you said the people in the pews would be a better indicator than the actual people. Actually, it wouldn't. Now you're attacking a straw man. I never said it would be a "terrible reference." You're stupid.
"lulz - they expressed no doubt as to education, and almost universally said 'probably' as to their income level. you know, they'd say that they probably won't get hit by a bus tomorrow as well. they're pretty fucking sure that won't happen, but they can't be certain. your childish insistence that any fraction of doubt is the same as sever doubt is essentially all you have there, and it's a risible argument.
"
Probably is doubt you fucking moron!!! You can't turn clearly into probably no matter how hard you try.
"you really sound "classy" when you go off on these chirping insult laden rants, le chic. the thread was meant to make some point about racism. the only thing it demonstrated was your abject lack of intelligence."
Classier than your racist drivel. And it's proving that you're getting pwn3d; that you're stupid; and that even with a punctuation moniker, you keep coming back to get your ass whooping must say you're embarrassed.
"lulz, look at how angry you are, 50 posts later. it's supported - it's clear to me and others. the thread demonstrated that. you're arguing due your trademark insanity right now, not any kind of concrete point. i'm happy to keep watching you flame out."
You're the angry one. I proved my point. And I like to keep hammering it home.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12352564)
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Date: July 26th, 2009 5:13 AM Author: Twisted 180 Giraffe
95%? LMAO just picking random numbers now. You said they were "clearly educated and middle class". The people in that thread express doubt. Probably =/ clearly. And since that is your proof that you were right, and it backs up my position, not yours, I guess you were the one who just lost.
Pwn3d!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350913)
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Date: July 26th, 2009 6:04 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
"95%? LMAO just picking random numbers now"
they're white, college-educated people in suburban minnesota - 95% is probably a conservative guess as to the likelihood of them being middle class.
"You said they were "clearly educated and middle class."
they are.
"The people in that thread express doubt"
leaving room for uncertainty =/= doubt. if i ask a man if the sun will rise tomorrow and he says probably, that doesn't mean he has serious doubts about whether it's going to happen.
"Probably =/ clearly"
functionally, it very much did. it was clear to me, and it was clear to all the people who agreed with me.
"And since that is your proof that you were right"
aside from the direct confirmation that they're college educated, right? you mean no proof beyond that?
"and it backs up my position"
your position is that i can't be 100% certain of anything. this is true. but i can be 100% certain that it is CLEARLY the case that these people are educated and at least middle class.
"I guess you were the one who just lost.
Pwn3d!"
an enraged black woman congratulates herself for an imagined victory on the internet. why?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12351017) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 1:59 PM Author: Twisted 180 Giraffe
"they're white, college-educated people in suburban minnesota - 95% is probably a conservative guess as to the likelihood of them being middle class."
95% of whites in minn are not educated. let's not try to move the goal posts.
"they are."
They are not "clearly". You supplied no proof that it was so obvious as to render doubt silly. Your own thread shows that there was doubt.
"functionally, it very much did. it was clear to me, and it was clear to all the people who agreed with me."
No, they didn't. You said clearly. They did not agree with you. How dumb are you?
"aside from the direct confirmation that they're college educated, right? you mean no proof beyond that?"
Again, stupid. You said based off of the video, they were clearly "middle class and educated". You can't use an interview to prove your claims. You can only prove you point using the four corners of the wedding video. How dumb are you?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12352388) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 2:23 PM Author: Twisted 180 Giraffe
clear⋅ly  [kleer-lee] Show IPA
Use clearly in a Sentence
–adverb
1. in a clear manner: It is difficult to explain complex matters clearly.
*****2. without equivocation; decidedly: It is clearly out of the question to drop the case. ******
prob⋅a⋅bly  [prob-uh-blee] Show IPA
Use probably in a Sentence
–adverb
******in all likelihood; very likely: He will probably attend.*****
They don't mean the same thing. lmao
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12352639) |
Date: July 26th, 2009 3:15 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
1. embarrassing when my fellow whites try to dance
2. lol hipsters
3. that chick is the reason brides are supposed to wear a veil. eesh.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350297) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:30 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
have you ever met a hipster? they love basking in cliched and goofy r&b and hip-hop. see pitchforkmedia's fetish treatment of dumbasses like lil' wayne for example 101, then go hit a williamsburg dive bar at 3:00 AM and listen to the shit people start dancing to.
or do you think all those chubby bearded white guys from st. paul and their hipster-cutted bridesmaids in the aviators listen to chris brown all the time because that's just their cup of tea, and so they naturally chose him for the wedding?
jesus rowan, you have too many fucking pale ales tonight or what?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350451) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:39 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
you're being pretty ridiculous - so just to be clear - you think all these people and particularly the bride and groom actually really dig this song song and chose it for reasons having nothing to do with irony and a sense of whimsy?
riiiiiiiiight.
hipsters listen to all kinds of standard 'uncool' music just for kicks and the explicit ironic amusement of it, not just raw hip-hop. honestly, get out of the house more, go see what the young people are up to these days!
and obviously they're not hardcore art district hipsters living twelve to a loft, but they're a fine minnesota iteration of casual people who nejoy many hipsterish things. look at the chick's haircuts if you need some girly point of reference.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350511) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:44 AM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
that approach never even crossed my mind - second the music started playing and the first dude came out, i knew what the deal was.
IMO, the kind of people that enjoy chris brown in a serious level and would want that shit played at the reception, let alone the ceremony, are the type who would take this shit super seriously and never trample tradition. this is like an earth shattering day for poors and the mothers would be weeping in the aisles if they stepped on jesus's feelings.
trying to turn your wedding into a jokey r&b throw down with a sentimental age stinks of educated, mild, middle class kids trying to throw some irony and fun into it, i.e. hipsterish folks having their way.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350546) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:00 AM Author: Cordovan irradiated indian lodge
Nah. Another thing: there's no such thing as "midwestern hipster".
Part of the phenomenon is its startling lack of geographical variance. No hipster I know would wear that vest, and especially not that tie with that vest. Further, the style is beyond outre, it's just awful, and not in the ironic sense that many seem to take (improperly in many cases) as the sine qua non of hipsterdom.
The guy and probably the girl are just work hard play hard college nerd types with a propensity for mistaking the gaudy for the inventive.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350637) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:10 AM Author: Cordovan irradiated indian lodge
What you're thinking of is more generally likened to "Stuff White People Like" than hipsters. I've known plenty of people that dress like the above, and would be silly enough to at least have that wedding dance idea cross their minds.
I've been to the Twin Cities and Chicago lately. I've been to the bars in St. Paul and I've been to Wicker Park. They dress like the same people from Williamsburg, West Queen West (Toronto, where I'm from), and the Mile End (Montreal). They ALL dress the same. Even the cuff of the guy's pants gives him away.
Given your second paragraph I'm going to assume you're flame and go to bed.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350683) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:37 AM Author: misunderstood property
cr
Also ITT: Arrogant Asperger's patients who don't "get" the social purpose of tradition mock it for "not being rational" and because they "don't care what grandma thinks because she's not paying"/"my grandma is cool and wouldn't care anyway" as they think they are awesome for posting EDGY shit about how much Jesus sucks and how organized religion is all a total crock.
Meanwhile, at the next wedding they attend IRL, they will be the ostracized and awkward wallflowers relegated to the very edge of the dancefloor, where they will spend the night looking down and shifting uncomfortably from foot to foot as they pathetically try to 'dance' offbeat next to a large and unattractive girl who will not be paying attention to them at all before going home (sober) early and spending the rest of the night posting scathing indictments of "niggers" on XOXO. Fucking rebellious man!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350502) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:45 AM Author: Cracking parlour water buffalo
ITT: A joyless Asian feels oppressed by the weight of centuries of deeply ingrained collectivism and Confucian filial piety and attempts to massage away the cognitive dissonance by denying that others might not be so burdened.
Moron.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350549)
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:53 AM Author: misunderstood property
Date: July 26th, 2009 3:50 AM
Author: . . ... .. . .. . . . .. . . .. .... . . . ..
I'm sorry your grandmother is a dumb whore
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I see you have as well
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350601) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 3:52 AM Author: khaki principal's office shitlib
OMMFG SO OPEN MINDED AND EDGY.
Honestly, I don't give a fuck about tradition, respect for grandparents, and all that. I just think the execution is pathetic and trashy.
Sure, it's their wedding, they can do whatever the fuck they want. Doesn't mean it's not fucking pathetic and trashy.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350597) |
Date: July 26th, 2009 3:54 AM Author: khaki principal's office shitlib
FACT: no matter what you think about the idea, the execution just looks fucking trashy. The idea is cute, "open-minded", whatever the fuck, sure. But it just comes out looking stupid and trashy. I call it when I see it.
They don't give a fuck what I think, and I don't give a fuck what they think either. If they post this shit on fucking youtube I have a right to bash the fuck out of it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350608) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:06 AM Author: Aquamarine hyperactive rigpig
poor does not necessarily imply ghetto
you can be a poor striver, or a ghetto poor
these are the latter
lol im drunk
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350665) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:08 AM Author: khaki principal's office shitlib
So I can call it trashy. What do you mean so what? What the fuck do you post on XOXO for? You're fucking moron.
*States retarded opinion*
*When other people state theirs, ask "so what"*
Fucking dumbshit retard. Just shut the fuck up and eat your mom's nigger cunt
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350672)
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:07 AM Author: khaki principal's office shitlib
So I can call it trashy. What do you mean so what? What the fuck do you post on XOXO for? You're fucking moron.
*States retarded opinion*
*When other people state theirs, ask "so what"*
Fucking dumbshit retard. Just shut the fuck up and eat your mom's nigger cunt
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350669) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:08 AM Author: Cracking parlour water buffalo
Your opinion is noted.
Your purpose in posting is fulfilled.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350677)
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:20 AM Author: avocado comical menage filthpig
I found it amusing, not sure why it could possibly stir up negative feelings in anyone. Anyway, it linked to this video which is trashier, more cliched but has a much hotter bride with nice cleavage dancing to "Baby Got Back". YWIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqiw-Kqtlr0
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350721) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:24 AM Author: chrome house patrolman
some of my friends do this shit at their receptions too. i think it's a waste of time. sometimes i have to sit / stand there and watch them perform for 10 minutes to show off. for what? why can't we just move on, at least to the speeches or something?
unless the song "baby got back" has special meaning to their relationship or to their friends, the whole performance bothers me because it's just showy for no reason.
that's why i hate weddings sometimes. the striver tendencies tend to all come out.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350736) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:28 AM Author: chrome house patrolman
?
just a normal first dance.
I don't get the purpose of spending months choreographing a dance to show off at your reception.
Suppose your friends tell you "hey, my bf and I chreographed a dance to the song "baby got back". We're performing tonight. Want to come?"
I'd go, but I'd think it's pointlessly showy.
That doesn't change just because they insert it at the reception.
If you're not going to discuss and are just going to pick fights, i'm not interested.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350756) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:41 AM Author: chrome house patrolman
so you think the world would be a very slightly better place if I am more tolerant of other people's different viewpoints (e.g., thinking that doing a 10 minute performance dance at your wedding reception is acceptable), right?
have you ever considered that you can start by being more tolerant of my viewpoints, rather than forcing me to be tolerant of those of others?
I say one thing that I don't like about other people, and you immediately jumped in to change my viewpoint. how pathetically hypocritical.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350800) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:50 AM Author: chrome house patrolman
Funny, are you the same person who posted this?
"Date: July 26th, 2009 3:56 AM
Author: Jesse Sitzpinkler
Take your irrelevant rights-talk back to 9th grade where it belongs.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350617)"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350834) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:55 AM Author: chrome house patrolman
it has nothing to do with "social norms". I just don't like it when people needlessly show off.
if someone comes up to me and say "hey, check out my new montblac pen. Nice huh?"
I'd think it is needlessly showy.
I think the same way about people who choreograph a 10-minute dance to "baby got back" and then perform at their wedding.
I don't know why it is so objectionable that I judge people whom I think are needlessly showy.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350857) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 5:00 AM Author: Cracking parlour water buffalo
You think the pen comment is an attempt to lower your relative position in the social hierarchy.
You think the "showy" dance is an attempt to lower your relative position in the social hierarchy.
[edit - I suppose your mere prediction of that effect would work even if it isn't a conscious attempt.]
I was absolutely correct here http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350779
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350879) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 5:03 AM Author: chrome house patrolman
this makes no sense at all. it is people who needlessly show off what they have / can do, for no particular reason.
i don't feel "threatened". I just don't understand the purpose of the showing off.
your forced argument about "relative position in social hierarchy" is completely off.
this is clearly a waste of time. i regret ever responding to you. continue fighting the good fight and "upsetting the social order".
clearly you feel threatened because you feel that my articulate arguments is an attempt to lower your relative position in the social hierarchy. that would explain why you insist on coming back with more and more absurd arguments just to make you think that you have won.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350888) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 7:41 AM Author: Disturbing background story
"hypocricy"
you seem RULL SMARRRT
lol faggit you got pwned ITT, plz retire tyia
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12351067) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 4:28 AM Author: avocado comical menage filthpig
Yeah, I was just saying she has nice boobs.
Weddings are generally a license for the bride to be a complete narcissist for the weeks and sometimes months leading up to the ceremony. Some people take that license more seriously than others.
However, the bride and groom are "supposed" to do a first dance where everyone else just watches, so I don't think it's fair to come down on them too hard.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350754) |
Date: July 26th, 2009 4:35 AM Author: Cracking parlour water buffalo
I think the dour people in this thread are also threatened by the prospect of an upset of the established order. If things change, they think, then they will be pressured to compete in a game of creativity that they won't win. Instead, they'd prefer to stick to the traditional script that is much harder to fuck up.
Their fears are misplaced. They can have a traditional wedding. Few people will think less of them for it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350779) |
Date: July 26th, 2009 5:06 AM Author: fragrant gas station sex offender
In a way, I feel bad for Le Chic. She clearly felt that she could make biting articulation about the irrational nature of racism and hold it to the collective nose of XO.
Instead, as per her usual, she came off looking like a psychotic race-obsessed moron who spends her later Saturday evening hopelessly megaposting.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12350895)
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Date: July 26th, 2009 7:43 AM Author: Disturbing background story
Well one things for certain
This thread is full of fail
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12351068) |
Date: July 26th, 2009 10:35 AM Author: stirring parlor selfie
I can't even hate on this.
Weddings are fun. Let these folk have fun
This is more appropriate for introducing folks at a reception, but if they want to do it at the wedding ceremony, fine, let them. I wouldn't do this, but if they want to, fair.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12351227) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 12:40 PM Author: vigorous cruel-hearted whorehouse juggernaut
why?
i don't think weddings should be serious and solemn. they should be fun...everyone in that video looked like they were having fun to me. I would definitely have been pleased if I went to a wedding expecting the pachebel canon and got Chris Brown instead.
now i guess it'll be kind of sad if a slew of people try to recreate the fun and fail.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12351810) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 1:02 PM Author: vigorous cruel-hearted whorehouse juggernaut
There's a difference between approaching a wedding seriously and approaching a marriage seriously, dipshit.
Serious weddings are revolting. I have no idea where people get off thinking that their marriage to one another is such a big fucking deal to the rest of us that they have to throw tons of money and fancy shit into it.
In the off chance I ever get married, it will be in a courthouse or drive thru.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12351999) |
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Date: July 26th, 2009 1:26 PM Author: gold exhilarant garrison
a wedding doesn't have to be fancy to be serious
but it shouldn't be a joke either
Getting married by a judge is fine
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12352195) |
Date: July 26th, 2009 2:33 PM Author: Slimy Bbw
the reception is the time for all the fun stuff
ceremony should be solemn (except when I laugh during the glass-breaking part)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12352741) |
Date: July 26th, 2009 3:46 PM Author: Hateful Spot Digit Ratio
Whoever says that they "hate" it is probably being ridiculous unless they're just a traditionalist or something.
But whoever says that it was "touching" for those trolls to make some piss poor efforts at "dancing" to an utterly forgettable Top 50 pop song is a fucking classless mouth breather and should be killed.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12353312)
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Date: July 28th, 2009 10:34 PM Author: godawful pit dopamine
Hi! I am the most cynical unforgiving fuck, (qualification: who has slept with a woman or two) on this board, and even I thought this was pretty happy. So the rest of you really need to fucking think about some adjustments.
tyia.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12372547) |
Date: July 28th, 2009 10:57 PM Author: glittery wrinkle persian
1. i came ITT expecting blacks.
1a. fyi, le chic, if blacks had pulled off a dance routine that hit the spot between classy/fun like this one did, nobody would have been racist. well, not many people would have been.
2. bride looks much hotter on the today show.
3. the video was awesomely fun to watch. fuck you joyless, cynical fucks.
4. most of them were pretty good dancers
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12372816) |
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Date: July 29th, 2009 1:29 PM Author: up-to-no-good bespoke boiling water
1.) So the fuck what? Does that preclude personalizing it in some other way?
2.) You can dance at a disco, you can dance in a bar, you can dance in the fucking hallways if you want to. . .What does any of that have to do with whether or not you can dance at your wedding ceremony.
IT'S THEIR FUCKING WEDDING - HOW THEY CHOOSE TO HONOR THAT IS UP TO THEM
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12376474)
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Date: July 29th, 2009 1:04 PM Author: Seedy Smoky Nursing Home
My thoughts:
1)Playing Chris Brown at a wedding these days is kinda tacky, considering.
2)Why not just save this for the reception?
Whatever though.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12376259) |
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Date: July 29th, 2009 1:08 PM Author: Kink-friendly Swashbuckling Field Telephone
I thought it was fine until I saw the bride dance down the aisle.
(1) She has small saggy titties
(2) She knew she'd be doing a dance that would make them bounce
(3) She wore a dress with flimsy silk over her bosom
YET
(4) she didn't wear a bra
W...T...F...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12376287) |
Date: July 29th, 2009 1:31 PM Author: concupiscible bonkers box office
PROTIP: Your thoughts and feelings don't matter.
For the record, it's a good memory for them and they, and the audience, including the seniors, all look to be having fun. What the fuck is your problem?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12376485) |
Date: August 17th, 2009 5:00 PM Author: Bearded Doobsian Theater Halford
i think it's funny to watch people act like idiots
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12525800)
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Date: August 17th, 2009 5:45 PM Author: Fantasy-prone chestnut stage idiot
1. That is not even close to a Catholic Church
2. Trashy Wedding "Ceremony" (must Pop Culture invade every space of our lives. I also don't want to hear your stupid music blaring while I am fishing/ camping.
3. That dood looks 100% hipster on Today Show interview
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#12526103) |
Date: July 21st, 2010 7:48 PM Author: histrionic cheese-eating pistol
lol, i never noticed that le chic came back to this thread like 10 hours later to 'pwn' me some more
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1050490&forum_id=2#15572810)
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