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Date: January 4th, 2005 2:44 PM Author: Trip roast beef After the very informative "Why Yale" thread, I thought I'd start one about Harvard. So, what makes Harvard better than Yale? There are a lot of HLS people on the board. Please let us hear your perspectives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1877637) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:01 PM Author: Electric codepig "So, what makes Harvard better than Yale?"
Nothing. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:11 PM Author: Crawly Mind-boggling Principal's Office Goal In Life let's not be ridiculous.
far broader course offerings, sheer level of overall scholarship, more prestigious flagship law review/journal, more resources for interdisciplinary study, better city
overall, yale is probably better (not like I know for sure), but there are certainly some areas where H has the edge |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:03 PM Author: Plum Trailer Park Cuckoldry Subject: I'm not attending law school, but I understand that Harvard is not in New Haven. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1877711) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:08 PM Author: 180 Institution Hominid yale didn't accept me, so it's not like i chose between them.
but harvard is pretty cool. at first the size seemed overwhelming but i kinda dig it now, what with the course offerings and the clubs and all. cambridge/boston are fun.
what sucks is the finals after winter break. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:08 PM Author: misanthropic gay whorehouse massive, prestigious alumni base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1877725) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:25 PM Author: Trip roast beef I don't really buy the whole alumni base thing. While Harvard's is larger, that doesn't necessarily mean they're more likely to help you out. From what I've read, YLS grads tend to be more likely to help each other out, since they have a greater sense of community. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1877770) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:50 PM Author: Boyish tripping lodge sounds like bs to me...
i'd say if i met an alum from any of my schools big or small it would be random and I would care just the same. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:56 PM Author: brass chapel I'm not sure I buy it as a generic "sense of community", but it could make sense as the result of a numbers game. In other words, whether you typically meet one alum or three may make a difference in how much you are inclined to help those alums. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1877906) |
Date: January 4th, 2005 3:15 PM Author: Multi-colored Orchestra Pit Because there are more people, you can actually pick people you like to be your friends instead of getting stuck with someone you secretely hate as your closest friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1877741) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 4:10 PM Author: Marvelous space faggot firefighter Probably the way a lot of your friends feel about you, huh? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1877962) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 4:49 PM Author: Multi-colored Orchestra Pit Oh how witty. No I mean that seriously. That was awfully witty. I've never heard someone do that before. I've never actually heard someone try to turn someone's post against them. This is the first time anyone has actually done that. What a funny guy you must be. Would you like to make some quip on my name too? That would also be creative. Oh boy you're funny. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1878127) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 6:50 PM Author: dark resort old irish cottage C- for unnecessary effort. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1878638) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 1:47 PM Author: sexy silver idiot address You seem really angry.
And no, most people do not have best friends they secretly hate, even people who don't generally "hate" others. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 4:40 PM Author: Multi-colored Orchestra Pit shut up. Stop responding to post over a year old. Thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#5493987) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2006 4:18 PM Author: thriller sickened lay double fault This seems to be a family guy reference. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#5502747) |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 2:09 PM Author: dashing carmine site mental disorder this is actually very true, and a serious negative at yale, stanford, and uchicago. can't say i'm not nervous about my classmates. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#2337053) |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 2:15 PM Author: Multi-colored Orchestra Pit You're choosing between Stanford and Chicago, no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#2337128) |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 2:21 PM Author: dashing carmine site mental disorder yeah, sort of. S, Chi, Col, NYU currently. I know that makes me so TTT on this board... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#2337185) |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 5:43 PM Author: Multi-colored Orchestra Pit which one are you leaning towards? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#2338350) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:19 PM Author: brass chapel Bigger schools definitely have some advantages. Of course, it makes sense to keep in mind that more students are competing to use those same resources. So, for example, I'm not sure a larger alumni base helps much with employment when at the same time more students are trying to make use of that alumni base for the same purpose, unless you are intending to go well outside the mainstream of employers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1877748) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:24 PM Author: Multi-colored Orchestra Pit Wow. I just read that why Yale thread and I have never head so many people complain about Yale before. It was really a shocker. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1877765) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:26 PM Author: Trip roast beef Yeah, tell me about it.
(lol, you don't read your own threads?) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:29 PM Author: Multi-colored Orchestra Pit "(lol, you don't read your own threads?)"
I'm an airhead; I forgot all about it. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:28 PM Author: Fishy indian lodge coffee pot I'm not attendung, but the obvious is:
Better national/International name recognition
iow it's Harvard
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:31 PM Author: Razzle House-broken Brethren Well, if you want to work in Asia ... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1877798) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 1:40 PM Author: Exhilarant telephone mad cow disease TITCR
Aaahhh, Hafa daxue hen hao, feichang feichang hao! |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:32 PM Author: Multi-colored Orchestra Pit You should make a Stanford thread too. I think I would chose Harvard over Yale (I won't have the chance to so it doesn't matter) because 1) more people will likely translate to better friends, 2) Harvard name means more and I want to get into politics after litigation, 3) more classes and 4) more black faculty members (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1877804) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:40 PM Author: Trip roast beef "You should make a Stanford thread to"
Stanford is definitely part of the trinity, but no one really argues that it's better than H or Y. HYS common admits usually choose H or Y over S.
" 2) Harvard name means more and I want to get into politics after litigation"
Four words: Bill and Hillary Clinton.
"4) more black faculty members"
How does that benefit you? |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:48 PM Author: Multi-colored Orchestra Pit "Stanford is definitely part of the trinity, but no one really argues that it's better than H or Y."
Well, people are idiots. None of these schools is better than the other. All are great to such an extent that the differences are meaningless. No one is going to say to you "well, if you went to Harvard we might hire/consider/appoint you, but since you went to Stanford, no."
"Four words: Bill and Hillary Clinton."
The Harvard name means more in politics. 10% of the US Senate have HLS degrees. 5 of the SCOTUS members attended HLS. The Harvad name just carries more weight.
""4) more black faculty members"
How does that benefit you?"
I want to do independent research involving race and the law. The more black faculty members increases the likelihood I'd find someone I connected with. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:52 PM Author: brass chapel If you have a specific interest in Critical Studies, I don't think there is any doubt that Harvard is better than Yale. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1877886) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:54 PM Author: Multi-colored Orchestra Pit this is correct (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1877898) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:54 PM Author: Trip roast beef "5 of the SCOTUS members attended HLS."
True, but only 4 graduated from there. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 6:30 PM Author: Poppy potus piazza a paltry four? that's it, I'm not going! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1878523) |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 2:45 PM Author: dashing carmine site mental disorder how many graduated from yale? (not that alumni mean anything for SCOTUS placement, obviously...just curious). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#2337351) |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 2:45 PM Author: Sable Big Set One (Justice Thomas). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#2337353) |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 2:53 PM Author: dashing carmine site mental disorder right, right. forgot... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#2337414) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 5:38 PM Author: clear wonderful scourge upon the earth kitchen "The more black faculty members increases the likelihood I'd find someone I connected with."
Yes, because there aren't any white professors who are interested in race and law. Of course.
That said, HLS has Randy Kennedy, who does research on that topic and is wicked cool to boot. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 5:48 PM Author: Multi-colored Orchestra Pit "Yes, because there aren't any white professors who are interested in race and law. Of course."
Only a few, and I'm not aware of any white CRT at Harvard. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 5:58 PM Author: clear wonderful scourge upon the earth kitchen That's because CRT doesn't belong in any self-respecting institution.
But if you want to hear prattling on stupid crit shit, there's the (white) Duncan Kennedy and Roberto Unger.
Kennedy will also talk to you about CRT, but you might not like what he says. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 6:03 PM Author: 180 Institution Hominid what does duncan kennedy say about crt? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1878401) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 6:18 PM Author: clear wonderful scourge upon the earth kitchen I don't know if he does anything specifically related to CRT, but he's one of the grandfathers of the general Critical Legal Studies movement, right? So I'm guessing he would probably be happy to carry on a conversation about the topic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1878467) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 1:51 PM Author: sexy silver idiot address Wait, are you saying that going to HLS over YLS makes it easier to get on the Supreme Court? First, when you correct for size, isn't the number the say. Second, that's just preposterous on its face.
I don't know about the politics thing. I really doubt HLS vs. YLS is going to make a difference as far as becoming a senator. I'm not sure where in the process you thing that will occur. People will vote for you but wouldn't if you were YLS not HLS? |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 4:15 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle sooty gunner national I bet our Chief Justice and our first female Justice disagree with you. If admit matriculation is the only metric, then you can't argue that H is better than Y, since Y loses more admits to "decides not to attend law school" than it does to any other law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1877986) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 4:22 PM Author: Trip roast beef You misinterpreted my statement. I'm not saying Stanford is worse than the other two (I am giving them full consideration). I am just saying that the HY debate is more intense, since people don't really argue for Stanford that much (on here, at least). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1878010) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 5:59 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle sooty gunner national Ah, okay. That's fair. Yeah, we're less competitive about that sort of stuff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1878386) |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 2:20 PM Author: dashing carmine site mental disorder "Stanford is definitely part of the trinity, but no one really argues that it's better than H or Y. HYS common admits usually choose H or Y over S."
This is most certainly not true. Yield numbers, particularly for law school, do not differentiate between equals. I have had a disturbing number of Harvard students tell me to go to Stanford over Harvard. The only place in the world where "no one really argues that Stanford is better than H or Y" is on xoxo. And even that's not wholly true.
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Date: March 15th, 2005 9:30 PM Author: Multi-colored Orchestra Pit Which reasons do the H students give for choosing stanford over it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#2339659) |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 10:23 PM Author: Trip roast beef "Yield numbers, particularly for law school, do not differentiate between equals."
They do on some level. At the very least, they indicate which schools are generally perceived to be better than others, whether or not they actually are. And I like to think that people make semi-informed decisions, especially if they are smart enough to have the opportunity to choose between any combination of Y, H, and S. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 7:10 PM Author: galvanic chartreuse step-uncle's house "Stanford is definitely part of the trinity, but no one really argues that it's better than H or Y. HYS common admits usually choose H or Y over S."
If you say so. I think there are many, many people who would disagre, especially the half of Stanford that chose it over Harvard. Also, Stanford and Harvard split admitted students about evenly, and the vast majority of Harvard students did not get into Stanford. Stanford also does slightly better than Harvard placing students in firm jobs, and the two schools have equal SCOTUS clerkship numbers in the last 15 years and in the last 5. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 7:15 PM Author: galvanic chartreuse step-uncle's house "Four words: Bill and Hillary Clinton. "
You have silenced the opposition with this powerful and overwhelming argument. Well done sir. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 7:21 PM Author: galvanic chartreuse step-uncle's house "Stanford is definitely part of the trinity, but no one really argues that it's better than H or Y. HYS common admits usually choose H or Y over S."
Also, the most influential source for these things, which is clearly US News, has ranked Stanford number 2 eight of the last ten years. |
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Date: April 3rd, 2006 7:42 PM Author: onyx heady ticket booth "Stanford is definitely part of the trinity, but no one really argues that it's better than H or Y."
Eh, US News does for one... as do a majority of my SLS classmates who picked Stanford over Harvard.
What's pathetic is when HLS students start trying to argue that they're better than Yale, when the truth is that YLS is in a league of its own. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 1:38 PM Author: Supple Submissive Generalized Bond RBG! how is HLS treating you? BTW, Yale has more black faculty members than Harvard |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 1:40 PM Author: Trip roast beef Indeed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#5492665) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 4:42 PM Author: Multi-colored Orchestra Pit And take this coon with you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#5493996) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 4:39 PM Author: Multi-colored Orchestra Pit shut it loser (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#5493973) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 3:44 PM Author: Filthy flesh useless brakes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1877851) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 6:46 PM Author: magical stain center Things I like about Harvard:
1) The size of the school - There is more going on here than any other law school. More classes, more research opportunities, more extracurriculars, more guest lectures/conferences, more students (save GULC).
2) It's really pretty friendly - I think Dean Kagan's caused a big change in the atmosphere of the school. While you've got a lot of driven people running around, there's not the overt competitiveness that there once was at the school. And Kagan and Dean Cosgrove make the administration much more student-friendly than it ever was.
3) Cambridge/Boston.
4) Practical legal education - I think Harvard does a better job than many other schools at giving students opportunities to gain experience in actual legal work. There are a number of courses/clinicals that give you a fair amount exposure to litigation and other work. This could be better (and there are definitely classes that are purely academic) but I think the situation here is better than at Yale.
5) Approachable faculty - this surprised me, but I found all my professors to be receptive to students for questions/advice. You do have to deal with 80 person classes as a 1L though. The institution of reading groups has helped this.
6) Job opportunities - the Summer job hunt as a 1L's been easy. I'm sure it will be even better next year.
Things I don't like about Harvard:
1) It's big - To be honest, I don't mind this, but there are definitely many people you don't know around school and the popular classes are large.
2) It's not as academia-focused as Yale or Stanford. Part of this is the larger class size. It's difficult to get into a position of doing research with faculty. Although many professors are all to happy to help you when you actually are able to distinguish yourself/gain their attention. And there is probably a smaller number of people interested in going the academic route than at Yale, so this may balance out the class-size issue.
3) East Coast Weather.
4) Grades - Although there are drawbacks to having alternatively competitive systems like prof recommendations, having meaningful 1L grades is stressful.
Overall, I like HLS quite a bit and am glad that I decided to come here. But I think the small school/big school distinction is very influential on whether you'll like the school better than its smaller counterparts. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 6:56 PM Author: dark resort old irish cottage good post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1878666) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 7:01 PM Author: Trip roast beef Thanks, good post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1878688) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 8:20 PM Author: Glittery dingle berry plaza Subject: Practical/Clinical education For the record, Yale does very well in clinical education. There's something like six litigation and two transactional clinics in-house, you can participate in clinics as a 1L and argue in state appellate and supreme courts (although this is all due to state law), and most people do at least one clinic in their time here. I've done two already, and maybe I'll do a third next year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1878999) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 9:23 PM Author: magical stain center I get the impression that Yale emphasizes appellate litigation. Do you think this is true? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1879223) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 10:38 PM Author: Glittery dingle berry plaza Do you mean in class, or in clinic? If the latter, it depends on the clinic. The criminal defense clinic, for example, does plenty of trial-level stuff, as does the landlord-tenant clinic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1879558) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 7:54 PM Author: Cracking Wagecucks (1) It's huge, so you can find your niche - friends, student groups, courses, faculty mentors, journals, research projects, bars. This place has everything.
(2) OCI is a breeze. Seriously. People with B averages have multiple offers in major markets. (This probably doesn't distinguish H from Y, but it's still nice).
(3) Student life is pretty good... lots of nice little perks (nice library, nice new student center, good classrooms, free coffee, free printing).
(4) I think Boston/Cambridge is a dump, so that doesn't earn H any points... but it's probably better than New Haven.
(5) Financial aid was quite generous.
(6) Alumni network, due to its sheer volume. When you have job/clerkship interviews, a person from H is much more likely to end up talking to a fellow alum than a person from Y. I think this really matters.
(7) This is stupid, but "lay" people who aren't lawyers almost uniformly think that H is better than Y.
So overall, it depends on your personality. If you're a self-starter who wants to control his/her own destiny, come to H. If you are more into the small, tight-knit community thing, go to Y. I'm guessing that people from Harvard/Princeton/Duke/Penn/Georgetown/large state school are more likely to prefer H, while people from Amherst/Williams/Wellesley are more likely to prefer Y. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 8:15 PM Author: curious wrinkle Looking at their course catalogue, it seems to be much broader than Yale's which is a plus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1878971) |
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Date: January 5th, 2005 12:16 AM Author: Spruce floppy state Subject: Yawn Doesn't anyone ever get tired of this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1879949) |
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Date: January 5th, 2005 12:41 AM Author: brass chapel It's like a (slightly) more grownup version of "Who would win in a fight--The Thing or The Hulk?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1880015) |
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Date: January 5th, 2005 12:44 AM Author: Multi-colored Orchestra Pit it's just a way of getting people to talk about the pros and cons of their respective institutions. I think they have been rather informative (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#1880025) |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 5:51 PM Author: Filthy flesh useless brakes Dude, Hulk consistently beat the living shit out of The Thing. Nothing beats HULK SMASH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#2338409) |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 11:40 AM Author: Multi-colored Orchestra Pit prestige bump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#2336155) |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 1:19 PM Author: Bateful up-to-no-good menage milk HARVARD IS BETTER BECAUSE I GO THERE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#2336731) |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 6:39 PM Author: Red odious famous landscape painting Subject: fair enough. Why should one attend Harvard?
Because one did not get into Yale.
Clearly, you don't fit this description, Alcibiades. Nor are you delusional ord otherwise mentally handicapped.
Thus, I respectfully submit that you shut your fucking mouth and send your goddamned deposit to:
Office of Admissions THE Yale Law School 127 Wall Street New Haven, CT, 06511.
I hope this helps.
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Date: March 15th, 2005 6:47 PM Author: sick soul-stirring stead antidepressant drug even more feces. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#2338762) |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 7:06 PM Author: Trip roast beef Lol, this was two months ago. I'm almost decided on Yale now. I should know pretty definitively after this weekend (H's admit weekend). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#2338913) |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 7:14 PM Author: Bateful up-to-no-good menage milk KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR ME. I WILL HAVE TWO MONKEYS IN MY POSSESSION. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#2338964) |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 6:48 PM Author: maroon naked haunted graveyard UCLA GEORGETOWN CLERKSHIPS LEITER (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#2338768) |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 7:15 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy home nowag 85% of Harvard kids have never been in a fight. If your goal is to mug people and get away with it, this is the place to go. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#2338970) |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 7:17 PM Author: Bateful up-to-no-good menage milk whereas at Yale you can relish the experience of getting mugged yourself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#2338975) |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 7:18 PM Author: passionate vengeful heaven crotch Unless you run into this kid...he will shank your ass!
www.courttv.com/trials/pring-wilson/ |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 1:49 PM Author: Glassy theater stage yarmulke Subject: The real deal As one of my friends put it, 'all of the real gunners go to Harvard.' If you go to Harvard, you'll be 1) graded and 2) going against the real, honest-to-goodness cut-throat glory seekers rather than academic wannabees or policy wonks.
And they'll all be especially on edge because they need to prove themselves after getting dinged from Yale. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 1:54 PM Author: Zombie-like primrose bawdyhouse because there's satisfaction in knowing that one passed the CA bar despite graduating from a program with lower passage #s than hastings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#5492737) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 6:26 PM Author: excitant mexican rehab the opportunity to take classes with Roberto Unger (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#5494890) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 6:30 PM Author: milky provocative hospital Harvard is so fucking well regarded (which doesn't mean good, mind you) that the fucking people who were in my ALM classes got their degrees and got good jobs and into top 10 Ph.D programs.
My advisor told me that two students with an ALM in government landed jobs with defense contractors, and you know what those jobs pay...
Harvard may not be the best school, but it's pretty fucking good, but this is less important than the prestige associated with the name. It's just a fact of life. Harvard makes employers cream all over themselves. |
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Date: April 3rd, 2006 5:07 PM Author: Sepia Pit "Harvard makes employers cream all over themselves."
um, no it doesn't. there are five hundred and fifty HLS grads every single year. there is no harvard mystique among any employers worth impressing. you are an utterly fungible commodity. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 11:07 PM Author: exciting deep meetinghouse jap For the Harvard UGs out there, would you choose HLS or YLS?
While I most likely will get dinged from Yale, I'm curious as to how far Harvard UG's "school loyalty" extends.
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 11:16 PM Author: Trip roast beef There are more from Harvard (94 last year) than from any other undergrad, including Yale (85).
http://www.yale.edu/bulletin/html/law/students.html |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 11:17 PM Author: exciting deep meetinghouse jap thanks for this. would you know what percentage of Yale's 1L class takes time off before school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&forum_id=2#5497345) |