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Some Observations on the LSAT from a 1L

After a semester of ls, I've discovered that the games secti...
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flame. there are lots of games-like elements in the stuff yo...
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To be fair, the OP is a 1L (just like me.) We wouldn't know ...
Stirring Kitty Cat Property
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Like what? I'm a 2nd semester 2L and I haven't seen anything...
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upper level classes? By games I assume you mean minesweeper?
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not only that, but if you declare that you want to go to law...
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counterargument: reading cases is unimportant, the exam is l...
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Hmm.. Maybe you have a point but those are the rules. ...
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Yeah, totally dude. A bunch of different rules, a fact scena...
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i agree with OP. games-like reasoning is required in some u...
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i was a history major and nothing i saw rose to the difficul...
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your analogy is shitty. in college you are forced to take...
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How are you forced to take math in college? Not all colleges...
Stirring Kitty Cat Property
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link to stats not being math?
Titillating hairy legs locale
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Philosophy doesn't even require stats though. Same with soci...
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TTT
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stats aren't math?
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a) stats is math, b) any decent college requires at least 1-...
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dude, new school and sarah lawrence are RIGOROUS
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rofl
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If you think the LSAT games are difficult, you're a fucking ...
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I think you must have sucked on reading comp.
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Nope.
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oh, well it's interesting how you read the idea that I thoug...
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So you're argument is that by your OP you meant: "games...
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Again, you misread my post. Jesus dude, are you a native spe...
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What part of how to read a thread don't you understand? I wa...
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but you responded to mine bro. it's cool though
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lol learn to read aspie
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I agree. I think RC and LR are much more applicable. I was s...
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Right. LG style reasoning seems useless. People here claim y...
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thank you, 1.5L, for imparting your SAGE WISDOM to an up-and...
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link to me attempting to impart wisdom? sorry you have re...
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*stretches arms* *leans back in chair* "listen ki...
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you're right, you can definitely read my post as giving advi...
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you are a good dood
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Honestly dude, I wondered how I can be in the top 1% of LSAT...
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u mad
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no, friend.
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"maybe you haven't heard, but i'm in the TOP 1% of LSAT...
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just a reminder bro
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So you're not just TOP THIRD at CCN? Jesus, that hefty intel...
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obviously you don't go to a good ls
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Obviously not, bro. I really wish I could get top 1/3 and la...
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t6 law schools aren't full of retards like your ls. it's a *...
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How does LG relate to upper level courses? I'm a 1L and not ...
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i agree with the OP. i aced the logic games by just mechanic...
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that's what i did
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Agreed. I think the LG section should be removed, because it...
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i've taught lsat for three years, believe me, most people ar...
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The point is that you're testing your logical reasoning skil...
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the problem with LG is that it's the easiest section to prep...
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I don't know if that's true... well, yes I improved in logic...
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lol prepping for LG just means copying diagrams from the LGB...
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I'm OK with math and science, but I just gamed the system. I...
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yeah but my performance had nothing to do with my logical sk...
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If only. I was perfect on LR and RC but got enough LG wrong ...
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How are your ls grades? rank school?
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I thought so too until I took property. The Estates system u...
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also when you do difficult jurisdictional stuff in civpro or...
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cr. It's MOAR applicable than I thought it would be.
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dude IDK, this guy has an entire semester of LS under his be...
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cls has 170-175 25/75 lsat. it's not full of drooling retard...
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Why the hostility, broheim?
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I am now legitimately scared to take civpro... I don't inten...
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False. See, e.g., corporate tax, property, admin.
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How is CivPro related to GAMES? ...
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:40 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

After a semester of ls, I've discovered that the games section is fucking retarded and inapplicable to anything you do in ls, and the nitpicky logical reasoning really only applies to statute reading. There should be two reading comp sections and one LR section, and that's it. Games should be excised entirely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048162)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:41 PM
Author: Comical crackhouse scourge upon the earth

lol you must have done poorly if you can't see how the skills the logical reasoning sections test are relevant to reading cases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048176)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:44 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048218)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:41 PM
Author: big fear-inspiring university ratface

flame. there are lots of games-like elements in the stuff you do in upper level classes. killself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048177)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:49 PM
Author: Stirring Kitty Cat Property

To be fair, the OP is a 1L (just like me.) We wouldn't know what skills are required for upper year courses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048331)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:55 PM
Author: buff nubile sneaky criminal

Like what? I'm a 2nd semester 2L and I haven't seen anything remotely games-like.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048432)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:22 PM
Author: Ivory Costumed Rigpig

upper level classes? By games I assume you mean minesweeper?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048910)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 1:13 PM
Author: violet sex offender headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14054847)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:44 PM
Author: orange casino

not only that, but if you declare that you want to go to law school, you should be exempted from taking the math portion of the sat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048221)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 5:47 AM
Author: Fluffy godawful area rigor

counterargument: reading cases is unimportant, the exam is like a logic game with a far more complicated set of rules, so an LG master can break median simply by showing up with a decent outline (s)he's looked over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14053338)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:41 PM
Author: sadistic amber volcanic crater

Hmm..

Maybe you have a point but those are the rules.

Ace it or fail.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048178)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:48 PM
Author: passionate magical set

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048290)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:43 PM
Author: Contagious business firm

Yeah, totally dude. A bunch of different rules, a fact scenario, taking those rules and synthesizing them together to come up with specific answers/outcomes.

Sounds unlike anything I ever did in law school.

Fucking idiot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048205)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:44 PM
Author: primrose foreskin gas station

i agree with OP. games-like reasoning is required in some upper level classes, but the material never rises to the difficulty of the actual LSAT logic games.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048210)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:47 PM
Author: Thriller Rambunctious Indian Lodge

i was a history major and nothing i saw rose to the difficulty of teh sat math, so in spite of its predictive capacity for freshman grades, i don't think i should have had to take it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048266)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:48 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

your analogy is shitty.

in college you are forced to take math.

in law school, you don't do anything that resembles assigning animals to cages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048289)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:50 PM
Author: Stirring Kitty Cat Property

How are you forced to take math in college? Not all colleges require this - it's often dependent on major. I only had to take stats for my polisci major.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048343)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:51 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

link to stats not being math?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048358)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:53 PM
Author: Stirring Kitty Cat Property

Philosophy doesn't even require stats though. Same with sociology & a lot of arts majors. I only took it because I was doing some research-intensive stuff with polisci, but not all polisci majors required it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048401)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:54 PM
Author: Contagious business firm

TTT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048419)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:52 PM
Author: orange casino

stats aren't math?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048375)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:53 PM
Author: Contagious business firm

a) stats is math, b) any decent college requires at least 1-2 sems of math

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048393)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:56 PM
Author: orange casino

dude, new school and sarah lawrence are RIGOROUS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048457)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:57 PM
Author: Contagious business firm

rofl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048485)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:48 PM
Author: Contagious business firm

If you think the LSAT games are difficult, you're a fucking retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048278)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:49 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

I think you must have sucked on reading comp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048305)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:51 PM
Author: Contagious business firm

Nope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048350)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:51 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

oh, well it's interesting how you read the idea that I thought the games were difficult into my OP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048370)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:54 PM
Author: Contagious business firm

So you're argument is that by your OP you meant: "games are easy, but upper-level reasoning is SUPER easy!"

Please, we all know that wasn't what you meant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048415)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:57 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

Again, you misread my post. Jesus dude, are you a native speaker?

I AM NOT COMMENTING ON EASE/DIFFICULTY OF LG. THAT IS A SEPARATE DISCUSSION ENTIRELY.

What part of the word "inapplicable" do you not understand?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048487)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:01 PM
Author: Contagious business firm

What part of how to read a thread don't you understand? I was responding to a different post than yours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048578)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:03 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

but you responded to mine bro. it's cool though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048619)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:24 PM
Author: primrose foreskin gas station

lol learn to read aspie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048933)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:25 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048939)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:48 PM
Author: Stirring Kitty Cat Property

I agree. I think RC and LR are much more applicable. I was surprised how much the LSAT actually relates to the type of reasoning we do in law school... it's quite relevant. The people who say the LSAT doesn't accurately measure abilities in law school or how well you will do in law school.... I think are those who just did poorly on the LS. It's entirely relevant, but LG much less so. You can synthesize rules, etc. from logical reasoning as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048293)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:50 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

Right. LG style reasoning seems useless. People here claim you use this in upper-level classes...like fed courts? lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048334)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:49 PM
Author: Frum histrionic pit

thank you, 1.5L, for imparting your SAGE WISDOM to an up-and-coming generation of LS students

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048325)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:51 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

link to me attempting to impart wisdom?

sorry you have reading comp problems bro, and can't recognize that this is criticism of the lsat, not advice for 0Ls.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048355)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:53 PM
Author: Frum histrionic pit

*stretches arms*

*leans back in chair*

"listen kids, i've been around the block in LS, okay? i've taken those four classes, and I can tell you that the analytical reasoning section on the LSAT has no relation to one's aptitude for legal studies. maybe you haven't heard, but i'm in the TOP THIRD. fuck all that statistical data and shit; i know the score."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048405)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:55 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

you're right, you can definitely read my post as giving advice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048433)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:56 PM
Author: passionate magical set

you are a good dood

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048454)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:58 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

Honestly dude, I wondered how I can be in the top 1% of LSAT takers nationwide, but from reading xoxo, I realize that people can't read. Seriously.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048509)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:59 PM
Author: Frum histrionic pit

u mad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048519)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:00 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

no, friend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048542)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:04 PM
Author: Frum histrionic pit

"maybe you haven't heard, but i'm in the TOP 1% of LSAT takers."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048629)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:06 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

just a reminder bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048662)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:05 PM
Author: Misanthropic dashing twinkling uncleanness

So you're not just TOP THIRD at CCN? Jesus, that hefty intellect of yours must weigh you down some.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048640)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:06 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

obviously you don't go to a good ls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048664)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:09 PM
Author: Misanthropic dashing twinkling uncleanness

Obviously not, bro. I really wish I could get top 1/3 and land SKADDEN.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048694)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:09 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

t6 law schools aren't full of retards like your ls. it's a *little* tougher than being king of shit mountain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048701)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:21 PM
Author: Misanthropic dashing twinkling uncleanness

That's right, dude. Be proud of your accomplishments. There are only 700 other T6 students in the 2012 class who out performed you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048888)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:22 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

GET OUT OF MY THREAD ASS FACE

skadden secure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048912)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:28 PM
Author: Frum histrionic pit

lol u mad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048996)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:29 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

no friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14049010)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:10 PM
Author: Comical crackhouse scourge upon the earth

lulz rude

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048716)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:11 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

you might make top third at your t-38 if you work hard and land BIGDUIDEFENSE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048724)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:39 PM
Author: Misanthropic dashing twinkling uncleanness

*works hard*

*gets a couple of B+'s and an A-*

*basks in glory of top 1/3 rank*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14049185)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:40 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

sorry about your shitty ls bro, enjoy unemployment/depression/suicide

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14049199)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:42 PM
Author: Misanthropic dashing twinkling uncleanness

All kidding aside, you should consider toning down the douchbaggery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14049226)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:43 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

no wai pal, i earned it

-skadden secure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14049254)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:52 PM
Author: Stirring Kitty Cat Property

How does LG relate to upper level courses? I'm a 1L and not sure... I would still think even if it does... that LR and RC would be much more applicable for interpretation of statutes, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048376)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:52 PM
Author: vigorous field trust fund

i agree with the OP. i aced the logic games by just mechanically applying the setups from the logic games bible. i had like 7 minutes left at the end. really what's the point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048384)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:53 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

that's what i did

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048390)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:56 PM
Author: Comical crackhouse scourge upon the earth

Agreed. I think the LG section should be removed, because it gives people with the time/money/resources/social network to prepare correctly a huge advantage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048451)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:57 PM
Author: Contagious business firm

Agreed, I think [life] should be removed, because it gives people with the time/money/resources/social network to prepare correctly a huge advantage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048476)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:57 PM
Author: orange casino

at no point in a four-year college degree does anyone have time to buy and learn the lgb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048479)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:59 PM
Author: Comical crackhouse scourge upon the earth

Not everyone knows that the LGB is as good as it is. To be fair, though, my criticism would have been more appropriate ten years ago, when it wasn't trivially easy for a smart person to figure out how to do well on the test.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048514)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:02 PM
Author: Bonkers disturbing masturbator

"Not everyone knows that the LGB is as good as it is."

If only there were an internet . . .



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048595)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:06 PM
Author: Comical crackhouse scourge upon the earth

right, that's why I said it would have been more appropriate 10 years ago.

Still, it seems silly to test whether people can find and use third party strategies to do well on a section of the test. Why not eliminate it altogether?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048667)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:08 PM
Author: orange casino

i've taught lsat for three years, believe me, most people are incapable of mastering logic games

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048684)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:11 PM
Author: Stirring Kitty Cat Property

yeah I'm one of them. To do well requires practice + innate capabilities obviously... but I think to get 165+ and a good score on logic games, it rests moreso on the latter. A mediocre student with a LGB still won't improve much, I'd think. It's the most difficult section, objectively... (although RC can be difficult as well, but most intelligent arts majors would find it pretty easy, I'd imagine, and doesn't require much studying. LG is the opposite..)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048730)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 5:43 AM
Author: Excitant tank tattoo

you underestimate the willingness of strivers to sandpaper their own dicks for a good score

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14053337)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:02 PM
Author: orange casino

i found out about it by googling and looking at amazon lists, it took me about 3 hours to decide what books to buy. i'm from a very rural and poor background. i see where you're coming from but honestly there is no real barrier anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048604)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:59 PM
Author: passionate magical set

buying the lgb takes several minutes online. the lgb can be assimilated over the course of a few hours each weekend for couple months. the latter is possible for a liberal arts student at a state school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048524)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:56 PM
Author: Stirring Kitty Cat Property

The point is that you're testing your logical reasoning skills.... I can see the point of LG but not necessarily the direct relevance to law school courses. I doubt I'd ever have to use LG reasoning for something like con. law, for instance. Or even torts. Maybe contracts, at best.

But many people have difficulty with LG... you are likely good at math/stats/economics, if you had so little difficulty with it - those types of people (from what I've heard and just my own intuition..) tend to do best at it. And engineering students as well. My arts friends struggled most with this section.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048458)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:58 PM
Author: passionate magical set

the problem with LG is that it's the easiest section to prep for and improve upon. improvements with LR and RC are harder to come by and are more in line with natural ability, especially the latter section.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048503)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:10 PM
Author: Stirring Kitty Cat Property

I don't know if that's true... well, yes I improved in logic games but not that much. I used LGB as well. LG was probably the section I improved on most... LR I hardly studied and got almost 100% on... but the first few times were brutal (I think because of the time limit and I was overthinking things.) I still found LG by far, the most difficult section even with LGB. And a few of my friends did as well... it's not the easiest section to prep for, but improvements may come the easiest for most people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048703)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:16 PM
Author: passionate magical set

lol prepping for LG just means copying diagrams from the LGB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048818)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:00 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

I'm OK with math and science, but I just gamed the system. I bought the PS bible and practiced set ups.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048532)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:07 PM
Author: vigorous field trust fund

yeah but my performance had nothing to do with my logical skills and everything to do with my purchasing a $20 book upon advice from the internet.

the section tests internet resourcefulness more than anything else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048675)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:09 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

cr. actually a friend randomly mentioned the bible and i picked it up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048695)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:57 PM
Author: Hairraiser Geriatric Turdskin Mad-dog Skullcap

If only. I was perfect on LR and RC but got enough LG wrong to not have a ridiculously high score. Doh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048494)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:00 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

How are your ls grades? rank school?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048558)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:05 PM
Author: Hairraiser Geriatric Turdskin Mad-dog Skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048642)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:00 PM
Author: at-the-ready flushed public bath sandwich

I thought so too until I took property. The Estates system uses some of the same skills that games do. This is also true of some bullshit in Admin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048545)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:01 PM
Author: big fear-inspiring university ratface

also when you do difficult jurisdictional stuff in civpro or fedcts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048565)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:03 PM
Author: at-the-ready flushed public bath sandwich

cr.

It's MOAR applicable than I thought it would be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048616)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:07 PM
Author: Frum histrionic pit

dude IDK, this guy has an entire semester of LS under his belt and he's TOP THIRD. if he says that the games section of the LSAT is inapposite to legal studies, i believe him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048670)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:08 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

cls has 170-175 25/75 lsat. it's not full of drooling retards like your ls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048683)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:08 PM
Author: Frum histrionic pit

lol u mad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048690)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:10 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

no friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048704)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:10 PM
Author: Misanthropic dashing twinkling uncleanness

Are you serious, bro? That makes top 1/3 pretty elite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048719)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:11 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

get out of my thread jerkface

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048733)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:22 PM
Author: Misanthropic dashing twinkling uncleanness

Why the hostility, broheim?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048900)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:25 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

sry friend, i'm a little on edge right now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048954)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:13 PM
Author: Stirring Kitty Cat Property

I am now legitimately scared to take civpro... I don't intend on taking upper year property courses anyway. No interest in corporate law... so I can avoid corporate tax as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048765)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:15 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

civ pro is pretty easy. just get glannon + good flowchart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048799)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:01 PM
Author: Misanthropic dashing twinkling uncleanness

False. See, e.g., corporate tax, property, admin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048568)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:10 PM
Author: big fear-inspiring university ratface

good call on corp tax.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048708)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:14 PM
Author: Stirring Kitty Cat Property

How is CivPro related to GAMES? ...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048778)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:16 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

tcq. i don't think there's any relation at all. if anything, pure memorization is most important

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048816)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:35 PM
Author: Pink violent international law enforcement agency telephone

By the time that someone has decided that s/he would like to take the LSAT, s/he has already taken the SAT.

There seems to be no really good reason that explains why anyone preparing for the LSAT should be caught with their pants down unaware of the fact that there is a booming test prep industry that exists, and is there only because it continues to earn a profit by helping test takers achieve their highest possible score.

Its existence is not mystical knowledge nor does it seem a requirement that one should have to work any longer than a single, eight hour shift at, for instance, some silly job, earning $5/hour, if he wishes to acquire the choicest prep materials for his own use.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14049114)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:37 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

true. that's not the argument i'm making. i'm just saying the skillset it tests is inapplicable, whereas reading comp/logical reasoning target ls skills directly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14049140)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:42 PM
Author: Pink violent international law enforcement agency telephone

I thought that your argument was that,

because (aspect) A (from the LSAT) does not test for (some) skill set B (applicable to practice in law school)

therefore,

--> A should be dropped from the LSAT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14049240)



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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:44 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

you're saying that prep materials/knowledge of the test format & how to prep is widely available. i don't disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14049266)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 10:41 AM
Author: Charismatic splenetic place of business partner

the ability to learn the process required for the logic games and then apply that process in a limited time environment is very much what you do in law school. You learn a process for analyzing fact patterns and applying an area of law, and then you apply that process to a fact pattern.

If we didn't have the prep industry, then the games section would be close to useless because nobody would finish and most would get all but 1 or 2 wrong. But, since everyone practices, the logic games weeds out those people who are intellectually incapable of learning the games' process and then applying that process quickly.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14053852)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 12:47 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good coldplay fan

performance on the games section is the single greatest predictor for both success as a junior associate (the Williamson Scale) and partnership elevation at the v-47 firms

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14054653)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 1:09 PM
Author: Titillating hairy legs locale

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14054819)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:51 PM
Author: orange casino

v-47 was a little predictable, so i give this post a 178.5 (chicago scale)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14061097)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:49 PM
Author: Bipolar cuckold



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14061074)