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The Infamous Cadwalader Chris Email
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:01 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner In case ya'll are doubting my declaring CWT a TTT:
By the time you read this in the morning, I am sure that you will have heard of what happened to me. All for no reason. I warn all the summer associates this firm is a joke of what it used to be. Read the history. With a man like Jordan Schwartz in charge what can you expect. For those that do not know my mother has cancer and I asked if I could leave the firm next Wednesday to take care of her. I was told that I would know by the end of the day my status. Also the day before my 5-year old daughter was in the hospital with a 105 degree fever. It was not a good week and the power at be knew that.
Mr. Schwartz had the gall to complain that I was on my cell phone talking about my daughter's condition during my partner dinner on Monday. That's the problem with the legal profession -- family has to come 2nd. Whoever it was that had a problem with my cell phone use in that situation (Mr. Polkes perhaps, Mr. Perel) should have been man or woman enough to confront me and they would have learned of the crisis and accepted it. Others used their phones too but because of my Italian-American heritage I was singled out.
To my friends, I consider you my friends because you have treated me right. Thank you for many happy times. Until today, I (we) did not see the real side of Cadwalader (who is probably rolling in his grave right now at the State of the Firm). While clearing my stuff from my desk and making telephone arrangements Mr. Schwartz called a security guard to monitor me. Gerry and Mike saw it first hand. Like the old Soviet Union, I was led downstairs to a waiting car. If you remember what I look like, I am a real threat. Please, those in charge are supposed to be rational.
I wish you all good luck and will maybe see some of you tomorrow when I return my Blackberry (which the firm favors over its employees). Doris don't worry you will get it back, but what will you do when Monica comes back and you become another no-good party planner?? The power trip will end.
To all of you I was told by Mr. Schwartz that I will receive pay for my 4 days of work this week if he decides he wants to show "goodwill" towards me. This is fascism. I am actually happy tonight because now I can quit this corrupt profession and not be a bitch for a partner. I can proudly say that I am now no person's bitch. We all heard the bad stuff about this firm before we joined and I was warned but I did not heed the warning and I got repaid. But I will survive. I will work in a profession where I will see my loved ones and will do good. Instead of representing the drug companies who are driving prices up, why not represent the Aids patients or poor who cannot afford these drugs. That joke of a pro bono program also needs no further consideration, we all saw it.
Does any one remember the movie "A Civil Action?" who do identify more with John Travolta who was fighting for the rights of the people or Hale and Dorr who was fighting for the rights of the polluters. Whose side do you think CWT is on. I am glad I can become one of the good guys again. We all like money, but what price to achieve it? Self dignity? I have seen a particular partner commit acts that should be sexual harassment on women at least 4 times. Will he be disciplined? I don't think so because he is a "rainmaker."
I now realize that I don't want to be a lawyer. I don't want the orders from those stuck on themselves and their ivy league schools. I don't want to be disrespected by people who probably cannot hold a family life together and do not know common sense. I don't want to be a bad guy. CWT is the bad guy, the biggest if the bad guy. It tries to prevent those who have legitimate grievances from redress because of their reinsurance knowledge. They are the bad guys, the partners. Remember the "Devil's Advocate?" My soul is mine and will remain mine. To all the people with families who never see them, re-think your lives, is that what you really want? Thank you Jordan for your actions. You saved me from being a slave to the partnership (which reminds me of the Politburo). My fellow summer friends, let's do good for the world, not evil. My conscience is now clean. To the attorneys who I made friends with, I hope you are happy and all the polls show you are not. Get out and enjoy life while you can because that is what I am going to do. I was fired because someone did not like me and Schwartz would not tell me who. I wish he would. Is it because I would not eat lobster tails because I called them giant cockroaches or I did not get shit-faced drunk like the rest of you? Why Mr. Scwartz, who was it that did not like me. Just tell me. Or is the truth too hard. Or is it because of my Italian American heritage, sure there a few tokens, but nearly enough as is representative of the population of New York City. We helped build this city. Could that be it? I don't know, all I do know is that I was mistreated tonight and Gerry, Chris, Marcie, or Mike can tell you all about it. If anyone would like to talk to me personally, you could use this e-mail address or give me a call at 917-640-XXXX (I will be happy to recount all of it). Thanks to those who are my TRUE friends and to those that aren't I hope you are happy because you sure look miserable all of the time.
I will also not speak of the blatant cocaine use in people's offices and the men's restrooms, nobody here but I saw it first-hand from others. Disgusting. Drink coffee instead.
To my friends, All the success in the world and I am going to miss you a great deal. To those who chose to become my enemies, I have nothing to say, just think with all of your millions are you truly happy????? Think about it Jordan, did you feel a real power trip treating me like that after pretending to be my informal mentor? I was warned about this firm by many who got out early, I did not listen, I was stupid. I learned my lesson. I am going to do something for myself that will make me happy, I wish you all would too. I will speak to some of you tomorrow. Please be happy, I was angry and upset at first but now I am happy. I am now free.
Chris |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:02 AM Author: Dashing Garrison Dingle Berry 180. i love this email, and have for many years now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190240) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:03 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner I truly don't think people on here have read this email. That is why I've reposted it. People tried to tell me that a YLS grad could rationally have chosen CWT over a firm like Milbank or White & Case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190244) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:06 AM Author: Ivory wild pistol roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190251) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:12 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Accusing him of mental problems is pretty sleezy. They better be able to back that up.
See my post below about him being a doucche. |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:23 AM Author: Ivory wild pistol roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190296) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:30 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner The post was about the firm HIRING a douche, actually. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190304) |
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Date: August 26th, 2005 12:01 PM Author: light bbw plaza No--it was because he's ITALIAN that they SINGLED HIM OUT!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#3680521) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:07 AM Author: exciting gaped party of the first part Chris sounds as much of a TTT as the firm though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190252) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:12 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner The fact of the matter is that a TTT like Chris wouldn't be able to get hired anywhere else. And that CWT doesn't care to screen out TTTs, and is filled with other idiots like Chris. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190268) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:39 AM Author: exciting gaped party of the first part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190319) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:40 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner ? I didn't see ur post... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190321) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:41 AM Author: exciting gaped party of the first part i moved it down, seemed more appropriate there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190324) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:35 AM Author: orchid skinny woman useless brakes Yet another whiny rant from someone who couldn't cut it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190313) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:37 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner THE QUESTION IS WHY DID THE FIRM HIRE A DOUCHE LIKE THAT? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190316) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:39 AM Author: exciting gaped party of the first part How could they have screened him out? Other than the fact that he's italian american, whose to say that he won't have a good work ethic once he joins the firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190320) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:41 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner The firm is full of douches like him. They're unselective and hire anyone with a pulse. Some firms actually aren't bad at screening for total douchebags. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190323) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:44 AM Author: exciting gaped party of the first part i just checked out their webpage, the schools they hire from is shocking. very unprestigious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190327) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:45 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner And they'll take the absolute bottom of the class at the top 14's. We're talking C+ students. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190330) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:49 AM Author: exciting gaped party of the first part Jessica Clarke
Associate - New York jessica.clarke@cwt.com 212 504 6433 Download V-Card Practice areas:
* Financial Restructuring Schools:
* Yale Law School * J.D. 2003 Whitman College B.A. 2000
She really shouldn't have taken the first offer she got. |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:50 AM Author: orchid skinny woman useless brakes Maybe, she believes that making partner will be a sure thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190340) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:50 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Their partner chances are worse than Cravath. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190341) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:52 AM Author: orchid skinny woman useless brakes Not for a Yalie amongst a mulitude of TTTs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190344) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:52 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Does she bring in business? That's all that matters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190347) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:53 AM Author: Dashing Garrison Dingle Berry and people dumb enough to work for cwt with a ton of other offers probably aren't smart enough to bring in the biz. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190349) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:54 AM Author: orchid skinny woman useless brakes yes, that's why her only chance of partnership was there. Catch-22 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190350) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:55 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner She's either a retard or has no social skills, is cwt is her best offer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190351) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:56 AM Author: orchid skinny woman useless brakes Yalie AA? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190352) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:56 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Nah, AA would put her at Cravath. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190354) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:01 AM Author: orchid skinny woman useless brakes Maybe one of the partners is her relative? If you do make partner, there's big $$$. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190361) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:02 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Nepotism policies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190362) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:05 AM Author: orchid skinny woman useless brakes Yeah, personally, I'd love to be a partner there. Few others partners to compete with and a big slave base. If I had nice credentials like her and knew or were related to some of the partners, it'd be great bet. Another possiblity is that she's married to someone who works in the area, but they didn't know they'd be moving there until she was a 3L. She did her summers in another city. |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:06 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Nice credentials not a partner make. HTH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190373) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:10 AM Author: orchid skinny woman useless brakes I'm sure there's a correlation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190388) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:11 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner NO. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is what it takes. Get it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190391) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:13 AM Author: orchid skinny woman useless brakes You don't think a YLS would bring in more $$$ than C+ Duke students? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190396) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:14 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Neither can be predicted based on grades/school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190399) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:15 AM Author: orchid skinny woman useless brakes Bah, then hiring based on grades/school would be pointless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190402) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:16 AM Author: Dashing Garrison Dingle Berry grades/school probably correlate much better with associate work product than with partner business generation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190404) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:20 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Yea. Law firms aren't hiring partners. They hire the smartest people, and figure that a few people out of each class will have good business skills. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190406) |
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Date: March 16th, 2005 3:09 PM Author: Concupiscible set people who write good briefs and do good work generally can attract business on that basis, as can people with an ability to manage and advance a case. smarter people tend to be betterat these things. those abilities that are often regarded as the "social skills" and aptitudes with the greatest utility in business (talking sports, wearing an enviable necktie, etc.) don't really have a lot of play, at least not in litigation.
the idea that law firms are a setting in which "street smarts" re-emerge to preeminence over "book smarts"isvastly overstated. also, you see a lot of people who are otherwise socially inept who have no difficulty not only doing work that is regarded as outstanding, but successfully communicating that work other than by writing -- in meetings with clients, for instance, or in court.
and court is an interesting example. far more often you will be speaking to a judge or responding to opposing counsel in a manner that closely resembles a law school class discussion. also very overstated is the need to have a dynamic presence, with jury appeal and a politician's knack for connecting with the "average person," who doesn't have the disdain for complexity that is portrayed by those who want to turn law school mediocrity into an act of heroic virtue. |
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Date: March 16th, 2005 3:13 PM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner This post makes me feel good about my life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2344054) |
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Date: June 12th, 2005 8:53 PM Author: Concupiscible set the title could very well have been: people like RWA thrive in law firms (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2997030) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:56 AM Author: Dashing Garrison Dingle Berry says the guy with no offers for 2L summer... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190353) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:57 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner I turned down a callback at this TTT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190355) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:58 AM Author: exciting gaped party of the first part why did you interview in the first place (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190356) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:59 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Didn't know anythin about firms, and what a TTT they were. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190358) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:03 AM Author: Dashing Garrison Dingle Berry good call. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190366) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:04 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner without having an offer, no less. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190367) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:04 AM Author: Dashing Garrison Dingle Berry better to waste $150K in law school tuition than years of your life in the cadwalader salt mines. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190368) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:05 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner exactly..that shit is horrible on the resume. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190370) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:06 AM Author: Dashing Garrison Dingle Berry what other "top firms" are death on a resume? i figure that sha whas to be up there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190374) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:07 AM Author: Ivory wild pistol roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190375) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:08 AM Author: Dashing Garrison Dingle Berry LOL. how can you claim to be a national firm and be based in fucking CLEVELAND! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190379) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:09 AM Author: Ivory wild pistol roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190381) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:09 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Morgan Lewis/Dechert? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190382) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:10 AM Author: Dashing Garrison Dingle Berry a friend of mine interviewed at morgan lewis, the interviewer told him to stay far away and that he couldn't wait to quit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190387) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:12 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner That's half of the firms, though. Nothing new. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190393) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:12 AM Author: Dashing Garrison Dingle Berry yeah, but this was the guy they sent to OCI. they couldn't find one fucking associate that could just smile and nod. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190395) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:15 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Nice. At oci is worse i guess. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190401) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:09 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Where is JD's bad rap coming from? They're just a TTT, but whyte bad rap? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190380) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:10 AM Author: Ivory wild pistol roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190385) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:11 AM Author: Dashing Garrison Dingle Berry roger luo, is that you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190390) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:08 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Dewey (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190378) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:09 AM Author: Dashing Garrison Dingle Berry Vinson has to be up there now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190383) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:11 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Who goes to V&E? I don't even know if they interview here.
Another TTT is clifford chance. |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:12 AM Author: Dashing Garrison Dingle Berry good call. how about proskauer and kaye scholer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190394) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:13 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner PR is fine for Sports alone. But they fucked up their associates with bonuses.
Kaye --don't hear much about them. You? |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:14 AM Author: Dashing Garrison Dingle Berry an acquaintance got axed from proskauer and couldn't find another job for like a year.
kaye just seems like a midwest TTT, i dunno. |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:16 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Ouch, that sucks.
What about dla piper whatever the fuck...
Yea, on Stroock! |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:17 AM Author: Dashing Garrison Dingle Berry i don't even know who the fuck they are. but listing that on your resume would take like three lines, so yeah, ding them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190405) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:21 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Wilson Sonsini in SV is a fucking rancid TTT. They fire people all the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190407) |
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Date: August 26th, 2005 4:54 PM Author: Salmon bateful persian heaven how did they wrong you to leave you so bitter? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#3682635) |
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Date: August 26th, 2005 4:57 PM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner They were good to me. I'm just trying to help others make the right move and correctly avoid an unstable law firm, as I did. I hate on a lot of firms that I have no personal animosity towards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#3682651) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:13 AM Author: Dashing Garrison Dingle Berry STROOCK! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190398) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 6:23 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Oh yea, throw in Baker & McKenzie. They're the Walmart of law firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190408) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:51 AM Author: exciting gaped party of the first part a Yale female, if she sticks around long enough, shouldn't be too hard to make partner at a lot of firms (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190342) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:52 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner WTF? It is all business, you douche. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190345) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:49 AM Author: orchid skinny woman useless brakes So I'm guessing they don't pay 125k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190338) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:51 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Oh they do. They match 30K boni too. They're one of the most profitable firms in the nation. Because the partnership is small and worse the associates like slaves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190343) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:40 AM Author: orchid skinny woman useless brakes Anyone can act decent during an interview and a cush summer associate position. It's not like they're mind readers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190322) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:42 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner But Chris isn't the only douche. There are tons of other horror stories coming out of that place. I'm suggesting an institutional problem, not a random freak accident. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190325) |
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Date: April 5th, 2007 11:39 PM Author: Learning disabled university multi-billionaire IS THIS REAL? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#7882151) |
Date: February 23rd, 2005 5:13 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner 2001 Article:
Cadwalader has a reputation for associate dissatisfaction. It placed last out of 165 firms nationwide in last year's American Lawyer mid-level associates survey. As one associate put it in a representative response, "the firm has become obsessed with money, too callous about associates' need for a personal life, and it's driven out many good people because of it." |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 8:33 AM Author: jet-lagged rough-skinned church building RWA: you still don't have a firm job even though you are a 3L no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190520) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 8:51 AM Author: Dead Lilac Becky The question is...."How is this characterization different from other firms?" At least the person who wrote that was courageous and honest enough to say what all BIGLAW lawyers are thinking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190538) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 8:45 AM Author: Know-it-all Charcoal Generalized Bond Location call him a douche all you want....but most of us have been there or at least will soon be there....the email could have been better and Im sure there were issues other than the sick mother and daughter.
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 8:52 AM Author: Dead Lilac Becky Precisely. What these kids don't realise is that that is how BIGLAW life is at MOST firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190540) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 2:22 PM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner The point isn't that he is a douche (which he is), but that only a firm like Cadwalader would hire someone like him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2191863) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 8:46 AM Author: Laughsome menage candlestick maker Chris isn't a douchebag at all, everyone in this thread is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190529) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 9:02 AM Author: jet stage famous landscape painting I really know nothing about Cadwalader, but if people like RWA and others on this board, who clearly seem like the most unpleasant douchebags imaginable, are united in not working there, then it seems like not a bad place to be. I think the absolute worst firm to be would be one where you show up to find some fucker like RWA is your officemate (assuming he is hired by a law firm at some point). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190550) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 9:18 AM Author: Crimson vengeful scourge upon the earth lay hahhahhahaha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190573) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 2:39 PM Author: razzle rebellious friendly grandma "I think the absolute worst firm to be would be one where you show up to find some fucker like RWA is your officemate"
Or worse: boss. |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 2:42 PM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Me in a position of authority at a law firm? Oy vey! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2191937) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 2:53 PM Author: razzle rebellious friendly grandma Indeed. I still don't understand what the big deal is. Maybe I'm just clueless but do we know the whole story here? How do we know this wasn't "the last straw?" And the dude is no worse than tons of law students I know. So can someone summarize the deal here? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2191977) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 2:57 PM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner The story isn't about him...it is about the firm, which is filled with douches like him.
I don't know the full story of his summer experience, though. |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 3:52 PM Author: razzle rebellious friendly grandma Here's my point: we've only heard his side of the story. We really don't know if that was the reason he was fired. For some reason I doubt that it was. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2192290) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 9:04 AM Author: very tactful whorehouse organic girlfriend A really good friend of mine (several years older than I am) is a partner there and does the sort of work I want to do. would it still be completely foolish to go there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190557) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 9:09 AM Author: Laughsome menage candlestick maker would you get an inside track? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190560) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 10:09 AM Author: very tactful whorehouse organic girlfriend well he says he would do whatever he could to help me, but that's what i don't know; ultimately how much does knowing one partner (and recent one at that) very well increase your odds of partnership (assuming you're smart, etc.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2190678) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2005 2:21 PM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner It is done by a vote, so you're going to need a majority/supermajority of the partnership behind you. One guy isn't going to cut it. Maybe if he is a high-profile partner (on the management cmte or something) and can lobby the other partners if you're borderline it will help, but the reality is that the partners don't want to dilute their shares to someone who doesn't have business. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2191860) |
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Date: June 12th, 2005 9:04 PM Author: bat shit crazy vigorous laser beams national "ultimately how much does knowing one partner (and recent one at that) very well increase your odds of partnership (assuming you're smart, etc.)"
I've heard the majority of cadwalader's partners are laterals. |
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Date: March 16th, 2005 2:49 PM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2343821) |
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Date: March 16th, 2005 2:59 PM Author: Talented underhanded coffee pot gaming laptop Chris needs more feces (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2343911) |
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Date: March 16th, 2005 3:15 PM Author: Sapphire misunderstood ratface office Funny, I didnt realize Italian-Americans were a URM. Had I, I'd be at Yale. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#2344074) |
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Date: August 26th, 2005 12:49 AM Author: misanthropic foreskin water buffalo Me neither. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#3678904) |
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Date: August 26th, 2005 12:50 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Nice bump. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#3678924) |
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Date: August 26th, 2005 12:51 AM Author: Ivory wild pistol roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#3678930) |
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Date: August 26th, 2005 12:52 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner What's the guy's last name. I'm sure he's googleable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#3678943) |
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Date: August 26th, 2005 12:53 AM Author: Ivory wild pistol roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#3678946) |
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Date: August 26th, 2005 12:55 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner 168 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#3678963) |
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Date: August 26th, 2005 1:07 AM Author: Exhilarant area Did he get fired as a summer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#3679058) |
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Date: August 26th, 2005 1:19 AM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Just a no-offer IIRC? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#3679132) |
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Date: August 26th, 2005 12:57 AM Author: high-end kitty legend This firm deserves all the shit heaped on it and more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#3678976) |
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Date: August 26th, 2005 11:54 AM Author: Big-titted cordovan death wish antidepressant drug why? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#3680487) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 8:40 AM Author: narrow-minded forum main people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#4355730) |
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Date: August 26th, 2005 11:15 AM Author: stimulating territorial base dysfunction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#3680363) |
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Date: August 26th, 2005 4:58 PM Author: angry indian lodge cumskin BIGLAW sucks HTH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#3682660) |
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Date: August 26th, 2005 5:01 PM Author: Snowy bearded electric furnace partner Yes, but not all biglaw firms suck equally. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#3682675) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 9:02 AM Author: Fragrant fiercely-loyal gaping faggotry Hmm. Someone recap what this is? I gather he got fired for some reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#4355754) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 9:32 AM Author: bat shit crazy vigorous laser beams national Over the past several days, Cadwalader has been dealing with sensitive issues regarding a summer associate. We have refrained from responding to any queries because the situation involves a young man who we are advised has long-standing and serious personal problems. Although he has chosen to comment publicly via his e-mail, we prefer to respect his privacy and the sensitivity of his situation. We have sought to provide him with the professional counseling he needs and will continue to handle the situation with compassion.
Robert O. Link Managing Partner Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft
http://www.nylawyer.com/display.php/file=/news/01/07/072601g |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 11:31 AM Author: Flesh histrionic pit Wait...this guy was only a fucking SUMMER!
He has serious problems. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2006 3:36 PM Author: Slap-happy meetinghouse THumP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#6721565) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2006 4:18 PM Author: pea-brained theater stage nice bump. I cant believe he was a summer. most likely a non-trad. It would be great to find out more info and what became of him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#6721752) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2006 5:50 PM Author: Massive Mentally Impaired Parlour Son Of Senegal Sounds more like the typical snot-nosed recent college grad. Can't imagine anyone else with such a monumental and undeserved sense of entitlement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#6722136) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2006 6:07 PM Author: 180 pisswyrm locale titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#6722244) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2006 6:13 PM Author: Slate Liquid Oxygen Jesus. All of that over a summer internship? That guy is nuts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#6722274) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2006 6:43 PM Author: Disturbing people who are hurt Takethat Caddawater! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#6722412) |
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Date: October 4th, 2006 8:12 AM Author: Drab Beta Ticket Booth Jewess Why exactly did this guy get fired in the first place? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#6725581) |
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Date: November 26th, 2006 1:01 AM Author: Dead Lilac Becky I cannot believe a SUMMER would write an email like that. Cadwalader is such a TTT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#7068940) |
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Date: November 26th, 2006 2:05 AM Author: Passionate Sex Offender Striped Hyena what's the matter Columbia JD? now pulling out a thread about Cadwalader thats over a month old? just watch your language young man
http://www.newyorker.com/talk/content/articles/030630ta_talk_mcgrath?030630ta_talk_mcgrath |
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Date: November 26th, 2006 9:49 AM Author: Dead Lilac Becky Sorry dad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#7070545) |
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Date: November 26th, 2006 2:25 AM Author: Ivory wild pistol roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#7069696) |
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Date: November 26th, 2006 3:26 AM Author: Geriatric shivering selfie den Better not get married before selling your soul to BIGLAW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#7070004) |
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Date: November 26th, 2006 9:46 AM Author: Dead Lilac Becky ...or it will want to eat your first born. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#7070538) |
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Date: April 5th, 2007 11:36 PM Author: Bossy sooty regret degenerate Bummpity bippity boop! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#7882128) |
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Date: April 5th, 2007 11:43 PM Author: beady-eyed quadroon boltzmann Anyone know what ever happened to this guy? What he's doing now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#7882174) |
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Date: April 5th, 2007 11:56 PM Author: Geriatric shivering selfie den Ah, a classic! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=140158&forum_id=2#7882269) |
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Date: April 6th, 2007 12:29 AM Author: Walnut Aromatic Pozpig (1) do we know this is real? (2) do people discriminate against italian-americans? |
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Date: April 6th, 2007 12:57 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle center twinkling uncleanness (2) We discriminate against anyone who is different. If we are all whites of non-Italian extraction then we will find a way to fuck you over.
This guy must have been a fucking idiot. Discrimination against Italians? Please, no one even believes discrimination lawsuits when real minorities bring them. |