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Date: September 2nd, 2010 3:47 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap FUCK FUCK FUCK (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15948674) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 3:51 PM Author: Vermilion giraffe To be fair,
Sorry man, that sucks.
Did you see it coming? Range of firm? |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 3:53 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap Not vault. Regional midlaw.
TBF, I saw it coming from the last half of the summer or so onward. Tried to stay optimistic.
Talked to the hiring partner. . . got the whole "it's not you, it's us" speech. . . they offered to write recommendations and whatever else. |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 3:53 PM Author: glittery startling idiot dragon And if it's bad Don't let it get you down, you can take it And if it hurts Don't let them see you cry, you can take it
Hold your head up, hold your head up Hold your head up, hold your head high
And if they stare Just let them burn their eyes on you moving And if they shout Don't let them change a thing what you're doing
Hold your head up, hold your head up Hold your head up, hold your head high |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 3:54 PM Author: Turquoise Jewess Gay Wizard Shitty talk, isn't it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15948732) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 3:56 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap Yes, yes it is. Don't really know where to go from here. I think I'm too late to apply for fed clerkships at this point (and I don't think I'd really be competitive anyways). I guess state clerkships, gov't positions, etc. are the way to go. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15948750) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 3:57 PM Author: Vermilion giraffe To be fair,
What happened man? Poor work product? Missed deadlines? Pissed off a partner? |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 3:59 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap None of the above. I worked my ass off and never missed a deadline. They just don't have "capacity."
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 4:02 PM Author: Vermilion giraffe To be fair,
Sorry man, that's the shittiest of all. |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 4:05 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap Yeah. I directly asked if it was performance-related, and the hiring partner said that it wasn't at all, that they really thought I did good work, fit in well, etc. A number of parters offered to serve as references or write recommendations. Makes me feel better about myself, but fucking hopeless about the prospect of getting a job ITE. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15948833) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:51 PM Author: Low-t Hall nah, if they really felt you were all that they would each sacrifice part of their HUGE paychecks and you'd have a job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15959050) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:53 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap Thanks man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15959056) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 4:04 PM Author: razzle aqua famous landscape painting public bath flame. why would it be coming half the summer
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 4:06 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap What? Because I heard numerous attorneys in the office talking about how shitty the economy was, I could see that younger associates were struggling to get work, and at the exit interview they basically told all of us SAs that they didn't know if they'd be able to make any offers b/c of the economy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15948849) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 5:01 PM Author: Curious Bipolar Dilemma Sweet Tailpipe can YOU AT LEAST PUT (RECEIVED OFFER) ON YOUR RESUME?
the ole' cold offer. |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 6:32 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap I didn't ask. I mean, they might be willing to do that, but it seems weird to ask, and I'm not all that comfortable lying to future employers.
I mean, the hiring partner said I can use her as a reference. And I can get a LOR from her or probably any partner I worked for up there. The cold offer idea doesn't seem worth it to me. |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 3:57 PM Author: Turquoise Jewess Gay Wizard Don't rule out local gov't gigs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15948759) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 4:00 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap Yeah, I guess law departments and DA's offices are an option. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15948785) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 4:00 PM Author: Turquoise Jewess Gay Wizard the option (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15948789) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 4:53 PM Author: erotic haunting boiling water If you want DA offices, you need to enroll in crim law classes now and include them on your resume, otherwise you will have a hard time getting interviews (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15949227) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 6:34 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap I actually have a pretty strong background in this. I've taken crim and both crim pros, worked for a PD my 1L summer, and I'm working for a federal PD this year. No prosecuting experience, but w/e, I can just say some shit about how I was originally interested in defense but changed my mind. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15949914) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 4:07 PM Author: spectacular cerise police squad point I'm in a similar position to the OP. How do I apply to these jobs? They don't seem to advertise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15948853) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 6:04 PM Author: Turquoise Jewess Gay Wizard They are required to advertise. Town by town, my friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15949694) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 3:51 PM Author: glittery startling idiot dragon And if it's bad Don't let it get you down, you can take it And if it hurts Don't let them see you cry, you can take it
Hold your head up, hold your head up Hold your head up, hold your head high
And if they stare Just let them burn their eyes on you moving And if they shout Don't let them change a thing what you're doing
Hold your head up, hold your head up Hold your head up, hold your head high |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 3:53 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap ty man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15948722) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 5:00 PM Author: Curious Bipolar Dilemma Sweet Tailpipe sorry man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15949307) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 9:15 PM Author: Useless diverse halford daniel brou. you suck. stop no offering me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15951173) |
Date: September 2nd, 2010 5:19 PM Author: ivory crackhouse welcum to hell friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15949435) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 6:30 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap Thanks dude. I'll try to enjoy myself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15949873) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 5:20 PM Author: trip territorial ticket booth sorry, dood. that sux. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15949450) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 6:02 PM Author: Hairless well-lubricated coffee pot School range? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15949684) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 6:11 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap T30ish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15949728) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 8:27 PM Author: Carmine Aromatic Trump Supporter Stag Film god. i hope you didn't pay for that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15959256) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 6:03 PM Author: Maniacal crotch step-uncle's house Welcome to the club (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15949691) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 6:11 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap thx man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15949729) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 6:13 PM Author: Turquoise Jewess Gay Wizard gin's in the cabinet over the toaster oven. left side. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15949739) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 6:34 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap I'll be needing that. And cigarettes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15949916) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 6:13 PM Author: Mind-boggling Plaza Sorry man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15949743) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 6:28 PM Author: boyish indirect expression I split my summer between three firms. No offered at one. Can I leave that firm off my resume? Or better, only put the firm whose offer I accepted on my resume for "summer 2010"?
Sorry, OP. |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:34 PM Author: Seedy Ebony House Depressive 3 firms? wtf? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15952562) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 9:14 PM Author: arousing chrome indian lodge trust fund I am sorry dood. The same thing happened to me. Great reviews, recommendations, etc but said they couldn't hire right now. It sucked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15951151) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 9:16 PM Author: Sienna Community Account god what fgts they are. couldn't they give you a cold offer? in fact maybe you should ask if you can say that...? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15951182) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:37 PM Author: spectacular cerise police squad point A friend of mine got a cold-offer but it hasn't helped him find another job. Other firms are not hiring. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15952594) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:39 PM Author: Supple lavender clown OUT THE FIRM (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15952608) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:30 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap Well, at least my whole class got no-offered. Found this out today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15956280) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 6:45 PM Author: Seedy Ebony House Depressive What. The.
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 6:50 PM Author: Charismatic sinister double fault Lol sounds like a good firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958767) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:26 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap It's a NALP firm, so they'll have to answer for it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958907) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 6:51 PM Author: razzle aqua famous landscape painting public bath OUT THE FIRM (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958772) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:25 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap No man. I still need LOR's and shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958902) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:27 PM Author: razzle aqua famous landscape painting public bath if everyone was NO-OFFERED, no one knows who you are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958912) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:29 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap It is a fucking dick move on their part. The firm is ridiculously top-loaded with baby boomer equity partners. The partner to associate ratio is literally something like 6/1 in the office I was working in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958923) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:30 PM Author: razzle aqua famous landscape painting public bath out. the. firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958925) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:30 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap You just want blood man. I'm not gonna do it. I'll out myself in the process. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958932) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:31 PM Author: razzle aqua famous landscape painting public bath how the hell would you out yourself as one of a full class of no-Os (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958937) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:34 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap The "full class" was three SAs. And I've posted enough shit on here that would make it easy to figure out which one of us did the outing.
Why would I do it? I have nothing to gain, and even if the chances are small that outing would lead to negative consequences, there's still a risk. |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 3:40 PM Author: vibrant scarlet meetinghouse If it comes up in interviews, say you got an offer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15957203) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 3:41 PM Author: Maniacal crotch step-uncle's house Then they will ask why you are not going there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15957209) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 3:47 PM Author: vibrant scarlet meetinghouse That's ok. Say you want a different practice area, or a different geographic location, or whatever you can come up with. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15957269) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:26 PM Author: cracking sound barrier credited. lying is never not credited. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958905) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:27 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap Dude, fuck that. My whole class got no-offered. I'll just tell them the truth. It's better than lying and sounding like a naive idiot in the process. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958913) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:55 PM Author: vibrant scarlet meetinghouse I'm serious about lying. You're making a mistake not to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15959069) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:58 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap OK. I'm sure you're an expert, but no thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15959085) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:58 PM Author: vibrant scarlet meetinghouse Honestly, I did it and it worked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15959090) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:59 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap So you lied about getting no-offered? Where did you get a job? Please tell me the story. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15959095) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 8:05 PM Author: vibrant scarlet meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15959127) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 8:09 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap I'm glad you got a job. But this happened pre-ITE, in the boom years, and you were interviewing at other firms, not the clerkships/government shit that I'm going to be gunning for. Our situations aren't all that comparable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15959144) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 8:11 PM Author: vibrant scarlet meetinghouse Telling them you didn't get an offer = ding Telling them you got an offer = still in the running, and they are very unlikely to verify (and if they do, all that happens is a ding) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 8:12 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap Dude, I really don't think it works that way any more. And if I tell them that my firm no-offered my entire class, and I have LORs from the hiring partner and shit, that should be good enough for the places I'm looking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15959162) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 8:14 PM Author: vibrant scarlet meetinghouse Well, I don't think that's the safe way to go, but it's possible it could work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15959168) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 8:21 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap I think you're overestimating the stigma of the no-offer ITE. Especially for those of us who had our whole class axed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15959221) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 8:30 PM Author: Carmine Aromatic Trump Supporter Stag Film lol. listen to him stupid fuck. i can only imagine the retarded shit you said/did to get dinged. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15959282) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:25 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap LOL, yeah right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958899) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:27 PM Author: floppy center sex offender do interviewers even ask whether people got offers or not? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958911) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:27 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap Probably depends where. Probably not for the places I'm going to be applying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958917) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:55 PM Author: vibrant scarlet meetinghouse In general, they will ask. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15959073) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:57 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap Do you have experience with this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15959079) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:59 PM Author: vibrant scarlet meetinghouse yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15959092) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:36 PM Author: poppy very tactful lay Is it also an AmLaw 200 firm? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958957) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:38 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap No. Why, do you know another firm that's done this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958962) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:39 PM Author: poppy very tactful lay I work for a firm that's done this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958968) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:40 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap Oh. Fuck, man. The idea that things have improved is laughable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958977) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:41 PM Author: poppy very tactful lay I hope your firm is in my market. Then we're not the only ones. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958980) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:42 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap Pretty sure there are no AmLaw200 firms in my firm's market. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958985) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:43 PM Author: poppy very tactful lay Can you give me a geographic region at least? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958988) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:44 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap Alright, but I'm not going to leave it up. Did you see it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958992) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:44 PM Author: poppy very tactful lay OK. Me too. Population of city? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15958995) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:45 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15959007) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:46 PM Author: poppy very tactful lay OK, we're in different markets in the same region. I've probably been on cases where your firm has been on the other side, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15959018) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 7:49 PM Author: Arrogant Mad-dog Skullcap Probably. So you guys are no-offering your entire summer class as well? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412586&forum_id=2#15959037) |